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** In ''BLACK'', Gorgom were a shadowy omnipresent cult that puppeteered Japanese society from behind the scenes and had [[CutLexLuthorACheck a very plausible modus operandi]], the Gorgom Party lacks both the feeling of menace and the grounded realism that their original counterparts had, as they're easily subordinated by incompetent humans and their trafficking plan, despite attempts to make it seem realistic, comes off as more laughable than anything the original Gorgom pulled given how pointlessly StupidEvil it is.

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** In ''BLACK'', Gorgom were a shadowy omnipresent cult that puppeteered Japanese society from behind the scenes and had [[CutLexLuthorACheck a very plausible modus operandi]], operandi]]. In contrast, the Gorgom Party lacks both the feeling of menace and the grounded realism that their original counterparts had, as they're easily subordinated by incompetent humans and their trafficking plan, despite attempts to make it seem realistic, comes off as more laughable than anything the original Gorgom pulled given how pointlessly StupidEvil it is.
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* BrokenAesop: ''BLACK SUN'''s anti-racism themes are undercut by the fact that, despite the heavy-handed allegories it draws between kaijins and real-life marginalized groups, InUniverse the practical solution presented to the problem is to prevent new kaijins from being made and ensure kaijins are eventually annihilated as a species once they've lived out their lifespans. The fact that the characters the kaijins were adapted from in the original show were ''Nazi cultists'' doesn't exactly help either.


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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''BLACK SUN'' changing elements in the original ''BLACK'' to the point where it [[InNameOnly has little-to-nothing in common]] with its source material, despite being billed as a direct remake of it, has provoked backlash from a lot of fans.
** Kotaro, symbol of resilience and childhood hero to many, is turned into a drug addict who beats up a homeless person for money in one of his first scenes and later accepts an offer to kill a teenage girl for money. Needless to say, this put off a lot of fans of the original show.
** In ''BLACK'', Gorgom were a shadowy omnipresent cult that puppeteered Japanese society from behind the scenes and had [[CutLexLuthorACheck a very plausible modus operandi]], the Gorgom Party lacks both the feeling of menace and the grounded realism that their original counterparts had, as they're easily subordinated by incompetent humans and their trafficking plan, despite attempts to make it seem realistic, comes off as more laughable than anything the original Gorgom pulled given how pointlessly StupidEvil it is.
** Kaijins in the original ''BLACK'' and the rest of the Showa era were Nazis / Nazi analogues who forsook their own humanity to become monsters in order to gain supremacy over others, acting as a very clever metaphor for the monstrous inhumanity that comes from trying to assert elitism and MasterRace ideologies. In ''BLACK SUN'' however, Kaijins are the ''victims'' of FantasticRacism, completely missing the original theme behind their conception on top of creating [[AdaptationInducedPlotHole plot hole]]s InUniverse
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* FanNickname: UsefulNotes/{{Xbox}} Driver, due to Kamen Rider SHADOWMOON's Century King Moon Driver looking a lot like an Xbox.

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* FanNickname: UsefulNotes/{{Xbox}} Platform/{{Xbox}} Driver, due to Kamen Rider SHADOWMOON's Century King Moon Driver looking a lot like an Xbox.
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** Kotaro's first henshin into Kamen Rider Black Sun, complete with the same transformation movements as the original Series/KamenRiderBlack.

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** Kotaro's first henshin into Kamen Rider Black Sun, complete with the same transformation movements as the original Series/KamenRiderBlack.''Series/KamenRiderBlack''.



** Beyond the fact that ''Black Sun'' conveys its anti-racism message using [[{{Dehumanization}} literal animal men]], it also takes place in a setting where the practical solution to the issue is to stop new kaijins from being made, effectively putting an end to kaijins as a species. While this makes sense in universe since kaijins are for the most part humans who've been unwillingly turned into kaijins, its unable to coexist with the heavy-handed analogies ''Black Sun'' makes between kaijins and real life civil rights struggles.
** ''Black Sun'' aims to deliver a take on surface-level appropriation by the political establishment of the rhetoric and struggles of minority and civil rights groups in a manner without actually doing anything to improve their material conditions, by using Gorgom as an analogy for political movements co-opted by self-serving politicians. However, because the circumstances in the show come about due to a series of contrived character decisions and lore inconsistencies, the show unintentionally frames the Kaijin as responsible for their own oppression.

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** Beyond the fact that ''Black Sun'' ''BLACK SUN'' conveys its anti-racism message using [[{{Dehumanization}} literal animal men]], it also takes place in a setting where the practical solution to the issue is to stop new kaijins from being made, effectively putting an end to kaijins as a species. While this makes sense in universe since kaijins are for the most part humans who've been unwillingly turned into kaijins, its unable to coexist with the heavy-handed analogies ''Black Sun'' ''BLACK SUN'' makes between kaijins and real life civil rights struggles.
** ''Black Sun'' ''BLACK SUN'' aims to deliver a take on surface-level appropriation by the political establishment of the rhetoric and struggles of minority and civil rights groups in a manner without actually doing anything to improve their material conditions, by using Gorgom as an analogy for political movements co-opted by self-serving politicians. However, because the circumstances in the show come about due to a series of contrived character decisions and lore inconsistencies, the show unintentionally frames the Kaijin as responsible for their own oppression.



* NauseaFuel: The first episode alone triggered this reaction, due to Black Sun ''ripping out a Kaijin's guts'', with audience reactions [[https://www.reddit.com/r/KamenRider/comments/ydof2y/today_an_early_screening_for_kamen_rider_black/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button being sick at the level of violence]].

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* NauseaFuel: The first episode alone triggered this reaction, due to Black Sun ''ripping out a Kaijin's guts'', with audience reactions [[https://www.reddit.com/r/KamenRider/comments/ydof2y/today_an_early_screening_for_kamen_rider_black/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button com/r/KamenRider/comments/ydof2y/today_an_early_screening_for_kamen_rider_black/ being sick at the level of violence]].



* TaintedByThePreview: Early merchandise reveals included the phrase "stop kaijin hate", a reference to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Asian_Hate "Stop Asian Hate" movement]], which led a lot of people to assume it was going to be a standard FantasticRacism story that leant into the idea that BothSidesHaveAPoint, appropriating the imagery of real-world civil rights activism without committing to a genuine position. Many of those fans were won over when it turned out that ''Black Sun'' is instead unapologetically political, taking a very clear stance against xenophobia and bigotry in Japan. Although this attracted new criticism of it taking real world issues and overlaying them to an allegory that [[BrokenAesop doesn't really work]], cramming in hot button topics its narrative isn't equipped to address.

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* TaintedByThePreview: Early merchandise reveals included the phrase "stop kaijin hate", a reference to the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Asian_Hate "Stop Asian Hate" movement]], which led a lot of people to assume it was going to be a standard FantasticRacism story that leant leaned into the idea that BothSidesHaveAPoint, appropriating the imagery of real-world civil rights activism without committing to a genuine position. Many of those fans were won over when it turned out that ''Black Sun'' ''BLACK SUN'' is instead unapologetically political, taking a very clear stance against xenophobia and bigotry in Japan. Although this attracted new criticism of it taking real world issues and overlaying them to an allegory that [[BrokenAesop doesn't really work]], cramming in hot button topics its narrative isn't equipped to address.



** When ''Black Sun'' was first announced, many fans of the original ''BLACK'' were excited at the prospect of a series focused entirely around the relationship between Kotaro and Nobuhiko. These fans were also disappointed to see their arcs take a backseat to the political drama of the series and the plotline revolving around kaijin rights. The lack of focus they receive makes their eventual FinalBattle feel less emotionally poignant than it could have been if their relationship had received more development.
** We never get to see Shadow Moon wielding the Satan Saber like he does in the original ''Black''.

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** When ''Black Sun'' ''BLACK SUN'' was first announced, many fans of the original ''BLACK'' were excited at the prospect of a series focused entirely around the relationship between Kotaro and Nobuhiko. These fans were also disappointed to see their arcs take a backseat to the political drama of the series and the plotline revolving around kaijin rights. The lack of focus they receive makes their eventual FinalBattle feel less emotionally poignant than it could have been if their relationship had received more development.
** We never get to see Shadow Moon wielding the Satan Saber like he does in the original ''Black''.''BLACK''.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' falls into this due to it's excessively dark tone than ''BLACK'', with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in it's source material. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'' before it, ''BLACK SUN'' falls into this due to it's excessively dark having a much darker tone than ''BLACK'', [[Series/KamenRiderBlack its source material]], with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in it's source material.counterparts. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The ending to the show seems to have been intended be a RayOfHopeEnding, with [[spoiler:Aoi carrying on the torch for Kotaro in the fight for kaijin rights]], but comes off more as a flat-out DownerEnding instead since [[spoiler:it has Aoi forming what is essentially a terrorist group that trains ChildSoldiers. The fact that violence as a tactic was repeatedly shown to backfire when used by kaijins just makes Aoi's uprising come across as [[HistoryRepeats repeating history]]; not to mention that since the Creation King is dead and kaijins are doomed to die-off, any gains they do make would be meaningless in the long term.]]
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* AccidentalAesop: Violence being an ineffectual and counterproductive way to advance social change. Every time pro-kaijin activists employ violent or forceful means to advance their cause it backfires. The early Gorgom movement kidnapping Dounami results in his grandfather being able to blackmail them into an unfair deal, while Nobuhiko's kaijin uprising barely goes anywhere and only results in a bunch of kaijins getting killed. [[spoiler:Given this track record, this also means that Aoi's extremist movement [[HistoryRepeats will likely not go anywhere]] either.]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Unlike it's source material and much like ''Amazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' was for the adult audience due its gory political nature.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Unlike it's source material and much like ''Amazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' was made for the adult audience due its gory and political nature.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Unlike it's source material and much like ''Amazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' was for the adult audience due its gory political nature.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN'' is falls into this due to it's excessively dark, dark tone than ''BLACK'', with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK''.it's source material. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Bilgenia's kaijin form keeps the exposed human face the original Bilgenia, but instead being someone wearing a suit of armor, this Bilgenia has an organic fish-man body, resulting in his human face contrasting heavily with it and being derided as looking completely ridiculous.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN SUN'' is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'' ''BLACK SUN is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'' ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', ''BLACK SUN is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''BLACK.''BLACK''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: ''Black Sun'' is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''Black''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: ''Black Sun'' Just like the previous reboot Rider show ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'' ''BLACK SUN is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''Black''.''BLACK. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.
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%%* * TooBleakStoppedCaring: ''Black Sun'' is excessively dark, with its characters all being [[InNameOnly massively distorted to the point of being nothing like]] their original counterparts in ''Black''. If you're expecting this Kotaro to be an upstanding figure fighting for justice in an immoral world, don't get your hopes up, as he's a washed out drug addict who assaults a homeless person in the first episode and [[DecoyProtagonist sticks to the sidelines]] for most of the show. Meanwhile, Nobuhiko lacks the cold badassery the original had as Shadow Moon, instead ending the show a broken, hate-filled fanatic whose uprising fails to make a dent. Other characters like Bilgenia and Nick are presented sympathetically but have that sympathy undercut by how repulsive their actions are, with Bilgenia being a sadistic sociopath who did hits for Dounami and who tortured Aoi and murdered her mom, while Nick aided Bilgenia in the latter action by selling Aoi out him (both also get let off the hook for it too). The fact that the setting is largely the same at the end leaves the whole story feeling pointless.

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