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*** The Gospel of John, from where this scene is taken, says that Judas didn't actually care about the poor but [[{{Hypocrite}} only wanted to help himself to the money]], as he was their treasurer. In the musical there is no indication he is anything but sincere.
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* HamAndCheese: Pilate tends to be played with either this or TranquilFury. Fred Johanson (2000) is an example of the former; Alex Hanson (2012), of the latter. Barry Dennen (1973) does both at different times, but errs toward ham, albeit with not as much over-the-top attack-dog viciousness as Johanson.
** Worth noting is that Pilate's apparent one constant character trait is being out of his depth, and a lot of his characterisation comes from this. Barry Dennen's Pilate is relatively calm when we meet him in Act I, but becomes angrier and more vicious throughout the show as a result of the stress and strain of trying to understand and to dispense justice while knowing the crowd will lynch him if he doesn't give them what they want.
** Meanwhile, Fred Johanson's Pilate is near tears from fear in "Pilate's Dream", but resolutely macho and hypermasculine when next we see him - the tears are his real self, while the borderline psychotic rage which characterises the rest of his performance is a facade of machismo put on to please the crowd and give the impression of strong, merciless leadership. Reinforcing this impression is the fact that in the lull just before the final "Remember Caesar" section of "Trial Before Pilate", when Jesus is the only person who can see his face, the facade falls and the rattled, extremely scared look from before is back.
** Among the major portrayals, Hanson's Pilate is different in that he is negotiating from a position of strength; Dennen's Pilate risks being physically torn apart by the mob, while Johanson's Pilate risks an unsustainable loss of face. Hanson's Pilate seems to be better-protected, and as a result he remains relatively calm even up to the start of "Trial Before Pilate", when he begins to sense that things are not as they should be and that the problem will not blow over on its own. His eventual rage is not born of fear; it comes from bemusement, turning to frustration and helplessness.
** Worth noting is that Pilate's apparent one constant character trait is being out of his depth, and a lot of his characterisation comes from this. Barry Dennen's Pilate is relatively calm when we meet him in Act I, but becomes angrier and more vicious throughout the show as a result of the stress and strain of trying to understand and to dispense justice while knowing the crowd will lynch him if he doesn't give them what they want.
** Meanwhile, Fred Johanson's Pilate is near tears from fear in "Pilate's Dream", but resolutely macho and hypermasculine when next we see him - the tears are his real self, while the borderline psychotic rage which characterises the rest of his performance is a facade of machismo put on to please the crowd and give the impression of strong, merciless leadership. Reinforcing this impression is the fact that in the lull just before the final "Remember Caesar" section of "Trial Before Pilate", when Jesus is the only person who can see his face, the facade falls and the rattled, extremely scared look from before is back.
** Among the major portrayals, Hanson's Pilate is different in that he is negotiating from a position of strength; Dennen's Pilate risks being physically torn apart by the mob, while Johanson's Pilate risks an unsustainable loss of face. Hanson's Pilate seems to be better-protected, and as a result he remains relatively calm even up to the start of "Trial Before Pilate", when he begins to sense that things are not as they should be and that the problem will not blow over on its own. His eventual rage is not born of fear; it comes from bemusement, turning to frustration and helplessness.
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*** Caiaphas and Annas, oddly enough, also get this in the 2012 production. It's relatively restrained, but there are a few looks shared in quiet moments; most notably, in this production, Judas punches Caiaphas in the face in the "Damned For All Time" section of "Judas' Death", and Annas hands Caiaphas a small towelette to wipe off the blood, giving him a positively throbbing look as he does so. The height disparity (6'6'' Caiaphas v. rather diminutive Annas) and the [[RedOniBlueOni distinct difference in manner]] (Caiaphas blue, Annas red) add to the impression.
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* ObviouslyEvil: The Priests in the 2012 version. They all wear suits (very much like investment bankers, in this Occupy-themed production), their council seems to take place in a boardroom, and their insignia (seen at the start of This Jesus Must Die) is an Eye of Providence (evoking the Illuminati) in a laurel wreath (evoking Rome). Caiaphas specifically falls straight into this, with his slicked-back hair and BeardOfEvil.
** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with Caiaphas in the otherwise fairly straightforward 2000 version, however. He has a relatively benevolent-looking face, as opposed to Annas, who looks almost exactly like [[HarryPotter Voldemort]]. Played straight by Pilate in the same version - he has a chinstrap BeardOfEvil and his costume is a combination of a Gestapo officer and a Roman legionary.
** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with Caiaphas in the otherwise fairly straightforward 2000 version, however. He has a relatively benevolent-looking face, as opposed to Annas, who looks almost exactly like [[HarryPotter Voldemort]]. Played straight by Pilate in the same version - he has a chinstrap BeardOfEvil and his costume is a combination of a Gestapo officer and a Roman legionary.
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** WordOfGod from Tim Rice says that his aim as far as presenting Judas' character was more to with showing what he might have done in the same situation rather than making him [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interesting]].
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** WordOfGod from Tim Rice says that his aim as far as presenting Judas' character was more to do with showing what he might have done in the same situation rather than making him [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interesting]].
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** How much you end up sympathising with him is, of course, up the the interpretation of the audience. Either he was a pawn in God's/Jesus' plan, a pawn in the Pharisees' plans, or misguided but ultimately chose his fate. (Or a mix)
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** How much you end up sympathising with him is, of course, up the to the interpretation of the audience. Either he was a pawn in God's/Jesus' plan, a pawn in the Pharisees' plans, or misguided but ultimately chose his fate. (Or a mix)
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** The 2000 version has the look of realisation on Jesus' face when he is held down to the cross and sees one of the soldiers picking up a nail.
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** The brutality of the crucifixion having been foreshadowed during the 1973 movie's "Gethsemane", where the moment Jesus accepts his fate, there's a montage of zooms on images of his crucifixion as depicted in paintings across the years since.
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** On a different note, whether or not Christ is actually divine is ambiguous. There is evidence both for (his prophecy to Peter and Judas) and against (Jesus running from the lepers instead of healing them, and his prayers in Gethsemane) in the music, and it is typically left to the individual production to sort it out, usually in Judas' "Jesus Christ Superstar" number and after Jesus' death, where some productions will throw in a hint that he has resurrected.
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* TheWoobie: Mary Magdalene. Depending on the production, Jesus and/or Judas could be as well.
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** Mary Magdalene. Depending on the production, Jesus and/or Judas could be as well.
** Pilate. He really wants to be anywhere else.
** Mary Magdalene. Depending on the production, Jesus and/or Judas could be as well.
** Pilate. He really wants to be anywhere else.
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** Caiaphas comes across a bit this way, particularly if you know the history of the area. His interest is in preserving the status quo, not because the status quo is so good, but because the Romans will brutally put down any rebellions - like they eventually did a generation later when Judea rose in arms. Caiaphas is willing to sacrifice Jesus' life because he believes that doing so will save many, many other lives.
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** Caiaphas comes across a bit this way, particularly if you know the history of the area. His interest is in preserving the status quo, not because the status quo is so good, but because the Romans will brutally put down any rebellions - like they eventually did a generation later when Judea rose in arms. Caiaphas is willing to sacrifice Jesus' life because he believes that doing so will save many, many other lives.
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**Or less awesomely "Looks like a woman and he wears a bra..."
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One quick spelling fix. Pilate has nothing to do with Pilates, although a JCS-themed workout video could be a narmtastic idea.
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*** Though a similar impression is given in the Bible. That or not wanting to be bossed around. Many, many adaptations have been made over the centuries, in which Judas, Pilates, and/or the Jews have been blamed to a greater or lesser, sometimes very extreme degree.
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*** Though a similar impression is given in the Bible. That or not wanting to be bossed around. Many, many adaptations have been made over the centuries, in which Judas, Pilates, Pilate, and/or the Jews have been blamed to a greater or lesser, sometimes very extreme degree.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: King Herod's Song.
** And, in the original movie, that bizzare scene with Judas being chased through the desert by helicopters and tanks.
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** And, in the original movie, that
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** The 2000 version seemed to do this as blatantly as possible. All the apostles wore tight ripped shirts, leather pants, and ''very'' frequently caressed and hugged each other. While the women all wore pretty modest ankle length dresses and their hair held in a ratty bun.
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** The 2000 version seemed to do this as blatantly as possible.possible (some would say it was turned UpToEleven). All the apostles wore tight ripped shirts, leather pants, and ''very'' frequently caressed and hugged each other. While the women all wore pretty modest ankle length dresses and their hair held in a ratty bun.
*** And then there's the bit where the last straw before his betrayal was catching Jesus and Mary Magdalene in a compromising position.
** It's also arguable that the 2012 arena tour does this to a greater extent than the 1973 film... Probably not the 2000 one though. Some of the looks exchanged between Tim Minchin's Judas and Ben Forster's Jesus (or even just glances in the general direction of the other character) could easily be classed as 'longing'. Add to that Minchin's heartbreaking reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him" during "Judas' Death," and the fact that during "The Last Supper" some of the apostles genuinely look as though they're watching a couple have a screaming row..
** It's also arguable that the 2012 arena tour does this to a greater extent than the 1973 film... Probably not the 2000 one though. Some of the looks exchanged between Tim Minchin's Judas and Ben Forster's Jesus (or even just glances in the general direction of the other character) could easily be classed as 'longing'. Add to that Minchin's heartbreaking reprise of "I Don't Know How To Love Him" during "Judas' Death," and the fact that during "The Last Supper" some of the apostles genuinely look as though they're watching a couple have a screaming row..
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* OneSceneWonder: Herod and Herod, especially when he's played by ''Rik Mayall''.
** Simon.
** Simon.
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* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct She Really Can Act]]: Former Music/{{Spice Girl|s}} Melanie C. surprised a ''lot'' of people with her powerful-yet-vulnerable [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8azdnR2fQus portrayal of Mary Magdalene]] on the UK Arena Tour.
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: Pilate's caustic [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shaming of the crowd]] during the trial:
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-->'''Pilate''': What is this new respect for Caesar? Until now it has been noticeably LACKING!
* [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct She Really Can Act]]: Former Music/{{Spice Girl|s}} Melanie C. surprised a ''lot'' of people with her powerful-yet-vulnerable [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8azdnR2fQus portrayal of Mary Magdalene]] on the UK Arena Tour.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Pilate's caustic [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shaming of the crowd]] during the trial:
-->'''Pilate''': What is this new respect for Caesar? Until now it has been noticeably LACKING!
-->'''Pilate''': What is this new respect for Caesar? Until now it has been noticeably LACKING!
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->'''Jesus:''' There will be poor always, ''pathetically'' struggling; look at the good things you've got!
-> ...You'll be lost, and you'll be ''so'' sorry, when I'm gone!
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*** Though a similar impression is given in the Bible. That or not wanting to be bossed around.
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** As well as Murray Head vs. Carl Anderson.
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** As well as Murray Head vs. Carl Anderson. Anderson.
* CrowningMomentofAwesome: Pilate's caustic [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shaming of the crowd]] during the trial:
-->'''Pilate''': What is this new respect for Caesar? Until now it has been noticeably LACKING!
* CrowningMomentofAwesome: Pilate's caustic [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech shaming of the crowd]] during the trial:
-->'''Pilate''': What is this new respect for Caesar? Until now it has been noticeably LACKING!
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** In the 2000 film, even ''Jesus'' gets this; he comes off more than a little selfish in response to Judas in his early scenes, when Judas is protesting Mary's spending money on expensive foot ointments instead of the poor:
->'''Jesus:''' There will be poor always, ''pathetically'' struggling; look at the good things you've got!
-> ...You'll be lost, and you'll be ''so'' sorry, when I'm gone!
->'''Jesus:''' There will be poor always, ''pathetically'' struggling; look at the good things you've got!
-> ...You'll be lost, and you'll be ''so'' sorry, when I'm gone!
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Caiaphas and Annas are sitting on a powder keg (the people hate the Romans and are looking for any excuse to rebel) and see Jesus as the equivalent of a lit match in the powder keg. In RealLife, less than fifty years after the Crucifixion, the Jews ''did'' rebel...and got utterly crushed.
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** The flogging scene in the 1973 movie. The flogging itself is nasty enough, but then there's the intense music that goes with it, and Pilate's voice counting out the lashes. He sounds almost elated. Then when we see him trying to compose himself, he has an expression that could be [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence aroused]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone disgusted]] or both.
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** The flogging scene in In the 1973 movie. The movie, the flogging itself is nasty enough, but then there's the intense music that goes with it, and Pilate's voice counting out the lashes. He sounds almost elated. Then when we see him trying to compose himself, he has an expression that could be [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence aroused]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone disgusted]] or both.
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** The flogging scene in the 1973 movie. The flogging itself is nasty enough, but then there's the intense music that goes with it, and Pilate's voice counting out the lashes. He sounds almost elated. Then when we see him trying to compose himself, he has a look that could be [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence aroused]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone disgusted]] or both.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: It's not really a funny show, but "Herod's Song" is hilarious.
** In the 2000 film, Simon's OhCrap look when Jesus sings "this is my blood you drink" just as he's sipped from the wine.
*** At the next line ("This is my body you eat"), the apostle handling the [[FreudWasRight loaf of bread]] stares at it and then quickly wipes his hands.
** In the 2000 film, Simon's OhCrap look when Jesus sings "this is my blood you drink" just as he's sipped from the wine.
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** The potential for Narm in "Heaven On Their Minds" is very strong, especially the first cry of "JEEEESUUUUS!"
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