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** The extremely brief appearance of Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" during Eddie's flashback. Reviewers have commented that it felt like a random insertion of BlackComedy that [[MoodWhiplash broke the suspenseful tone]] of the sequence - not helped by the song potentially reminding audiences of the opening scene of ''Film/Deadpool2016''.


%%* AscendedMeme: "[[Film/It1990 Kiss me, fatboy]]" does make it into the movie.


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* FanonDiscontinuity: Not the movie as a whole, but the fandom ''overwhelmingly'' ignores [[spoiler: Eddie's death]] to the point that it's actually hard to find fanworks where [[spoiler: he dies and stays dead]].


** Mrs. Kersh’s movements and mannerisms are supposed to be unnerving and unnatural, which is pretty effective for the most part...except for one scene where she’s watching Bev from a distance as she’s reminisce over Ben’s postcard as a child, and then she’s shown flailing her arms around in a manner not too dissimilar to [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Zoidberg]].

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** Mrs. Kersh’s movements and mannerisms are supposed to be unnerving and unnatural, which is pretty effective for the most part...except for one scene where she’s watching Bev from a distance as she’s reminisce reminiscing over Ben’s postcard as a child, and then she’s shown flailing her arms around in a manner not too dissimilar to [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Zoidberg]].Zoidberg.]]



** The Losers' final TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Pennywise, perhaps the worst case of important, serious dialogue being drowned out by the rest of the sound mix since [[Film/TheNeverendingStory the Childlike Empress getting her new name]].
** When the Losers [[spoiler:finally get IT in its weakest form, the face of Pennywise is so cartoonishly slopped onto the rocks that it makes it look like an old Anti-Smoking commercial more than it being close to death]].
** IT’s form in the final battle is essentially just [[spoiler: a clown [[SpiderPeople drider]]. It feels lacking compared to all the other grotesque forms IT takes, and Pennywise’s body awkwardly sticking out of a mostly regular (if giant) spider is frankly ridiculous. It gets a bit better when its legs start turning into tentacles with a LampreyMouth but in some ways it’s almost as much of a letdown as the spider form from the miniseries.]]

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** The Losers' final TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Pennywise, perhaps the worst case of important, serious dialogue being drowned out by the rest of the sound mix since [[Film/TheNeverendingStory the Childlike Empress getting her new name]].
name.]]
** When the Losers [[spoiler:finally get IT in its weakest form, the face of Pennywise is so cartoonishly slopped onto the rocks that it makes it look like an old Anti-Smoking commercial more than it being close to death]].
death.]]
** IT’s form in the final battle is essentially just [[spoiler: a clown [[SpiderPeople drider]]. drider.]] It feels lacking compared to all the other grotesque forms IT takes, and Pennywise’s body awkwardly sticking out of a mostly regular (if giant) spider is frankly ridiculous. It gets a bit better when its legs start turning into tentacles with a LampreyMouth {{Lamprey Mouth}}s but in some ways ways, it’s almost as much of a letdown as the spider form from the miniseries.]]]]
***Which is the whole point. They've spent the whole time afraid of IT, but now, IT doesn't scare them anymore, and because of that, IT logically isn't as scary to the audience anymore either.



** The way Henry Bowers laughs at the sight of Pennywise’s red balloon in the mental institution is so over the top and hammy for an adult to act, but considering he’s practically gone mentally insane after murdering his father and friends, it comes off shockingly realistic and turns back around to being creepy again.
** Bill reliving his childhood by riding down the road on his old bike Silver and laughing like a child as he’s riding, complete with him shouting "''Hi Ho, Silver!''" It’s laughable to see a grown adult acting like this, but since it plays into the main goal the losers are trying to do (remember their childhoods for the Ritual of Chüd), add on that it’s been 27 years since Bill has even been to Derry and it turns back into a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment.
* OlderThanTheyThink: [[spoiler: Adrian Mellon's death drew controversy, with many criticizing the real life parallels to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Howard the murder of Charlie Howard]], a real gay man who died very similarly minus Pennywise. The scene was accused of being added into the movie for "gay bashing" or simply shock value but this scene was actually a scene from the original book that was cut from the [[Film/{{It1990}} TV Movie]] and was meant to show just how monstrous IT was, drawing on Charlie Howard's murder two years prior to the release of the novel.]]

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** The way Henry Bowers laughs at the sight of Pennywise’s red balloon in the mental institution is so over the top over-the-top and hammy for an adult to act, but considering he’s practically gone mentally insane after murdering his father and his friends, it comes off shockingly realistic and turns back around to being creepy again.
** Bill reliving his childhood by riding down the road on his old bike Silver bike, Silver, and laughing like a child as he’s riding, complete with him shouting "''Hi Ho, Silver!''" It’s laughable to see a grown adult acting like this, but since it plays into the main goal the losers Losers are trying to do (remember their childhoods for the Ritual of Chüd), add on that it’s been 27 years since Bill has even been to Derry and it turns back into a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment.
* OlderThanTheyThink: [[spoiler: Adrian Mellon's death drew controversy, with many criticizing the real life real-life parallels to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Howard the murder of Charlie Howard]], Howard,]] a real gay man who died very similarly similarly, minus Pennywise. The scene was accused of being added into the movie for "gay bashing" "gay-bashing" or simply shock value but this scene was actually a scene from the original book that was cut from the [[Film/{{It1990}} TV Movie]] miniseries]] and was meant to show just how monstrous IT was, drawing on Charlie Howard's murder two years prior to the release of the novel.]]



** Tom Rogan proves himself to be quite chilling and brutal as Bev's abusive husband, perhaps even more so then his miniseries-self. As noted in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below, some movie-goers thought he would be a better pivotal antagonist hunting the Losers for Pennywise then Henry Bowers.

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** Tom Rogan proves himself to be quite chilling and brutal as Bev's abusive husband, perhaps even more so then his miniseries-self. As noted in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below, some movie-goers moviegoers thought he would be a better pivotal antagonist hunting the Losers for Pennywise then than Henry Bowers.



* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticized for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot and after Richie kills him to defend Mike he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike)]].

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* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticized for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot plot, and after Richie kills him to defend Mike Mike, he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike)]].Mike).]]



** Tom Rogan and Bill's wife Audra completely disappear from the film after their introduction scenes, and the subplots from the book where they follow Bill and Beverly to Derry and encounter It are AdaptedOut. Some fans of the book felt these subplots would have added more to the film [[{{Padding}} than the Bowers one that it kept]].
** Dean and Victoria, young children who are preyed upon by Pennywise while implied to be as isolated and bullied as the Losers were due to respectively being a newcomer and having a disfiguring birthmark, could have been good representations of a new generation facing down evil with them shown to be wary or aware of Pennywise. [[spoiler:Instead they are killed off after only brief appearances.]]

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** Tom Rogan and (and Bill's wife Audra Audra) completely disappear from the film after their introduction scenes, and the subplots from the book where they follow Bill and Beverly to Derry and encounter It are AdaptedOut. Some fans of the book felt these subplots would have added more to the film [[{{Padding}} than the Bowers one that it kept]].
kept.]]
** Dean and Victoria, young children who are preyed upon by Pennywise while Pennywise. While implied to be as isolated and bullied as the Losers were due to respectively being a newcomer and having a disfiguring birthmark, they could have been good representations of a new generation facing down evil with them shown to be wary or aware of Pennywise. [[spoiler:Instead they are killed off after only brief appearances.]]



** Even Greta Keene falls victim to this. While she was TheScrappy in the first film, the second film presented an opportunity for her to be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by odd almost sort of VitriolicBestBuds relationship with Eddie (where the "best buds" part is entirely on Eddie and the "vitriol" part is entirely on Greta) to be expanded upon more in the past and present, and since she's still living in Derry in the present day, Bev could have confronted her and gotten some closure with her childhood bully. Instead she's essentially a cameo and seems to have undergone zero change from the person she was in her youth, her exchange with Eddie is brief, and she and Bev never meet with each other despite It using a younger Greta as part of a vision to torment Bev in the climax.

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** Even Greta Keene falls victim to this. While she was TheScrappy in the first film, the second film presented an opportunity for her to be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by an odd almost sort of almost-sort-of VitriolicBestBuds relationship with Eddie (where the "best buds" part is entirely on Eddie and the "vitriol" part is entirely on Greta) to be expanded upon more in the past and present, and since she's still living in Derry in the present day, Bev could have confronted her and gotten some closure with her childhood bully. Instead Instead, she's essentially a cameo and seems to have undergone zero change from the person she was in her youth, her exchange with Eddie is brief, and she and Bev never meet with each other despite It IT using a younger Greta as part of a vision to torment Bev in the climax.



** [[spoiler:Richie receives AdaptationalSexuality and is all but stated to be a closeted gay man. Despite It using his secret to taunt him, there is no scene where Richie faces his fear and comes out to the group, and there is no indication that he plans to come out after It is defeated]].
** Despite being frequently hinted at in both the first film (the old woman who sees Georgie being killed, the car that drives past Ben being mutilated by Henry) and in this film (Victoria's mother making no effort to stop her daughter chasing a firefly to her doom), the It-influenced malaise and apathy of the adults of Derry never becomes a plot point - or even really mentioned - the way it is in the book and mini-series.

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** [[spoiler:Richie receives AdaptationalSexuality and is all but stated to be a closeted gay man. Despite It IT using his secret to taunt him, there is no scene where Richie faces his fear and comes out to the group, and there is no indication that he plans to come out after It IT is defeated]].
** Despite being frequently hinted at in both the first film (the old woman who sees Georgie being killed, the car that drives past Ben being mutilated by Henry) and in this film (Victoria's mother making no effort to stop her daughter chasing a firefly to her doom), the It-influenced IT-influenced malaise and apathy of the adults of Derry never becomes a plot point - or even really mentioned - the way it is in the book and mini-series.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Eddie hanging back while everyone else [[spoiler: rescues Beverly from It when it drags her underwater]] is framed as cowardly, but given that Eddie had an open stab wound in his face at the time, not wanting to dive headfirst into literal sewage is pretty understandable.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Stanley’s suicide or [[spoiler: rather his “sacrifice.”]] It’s meant to come across as a tough but [[spoiler: ultimately the right choice, as his sacrifice would be necessary to ensure the Losers presented a united front against It.]] But the problem is that we don’t learn of this until after [[spoiler: IT’s defeat]] and most of the time until then presented it as if he were too afraid to face IT again. Instead, his [[spoiler: “not suicide”]] letter comes more across as Stanley trying to rationalize/justify his cowardice.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Eddie hanging back while everyone else [[spoiler: rescues Beverly from It IT when it drags her underwater]] is framed as cowardly, but given that Eddie had an open stab wound in his face at the time, not wanting to dive headfirst into literal sewage is pretty understandable.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Stanley’s suicide or [[spoiler: rather his “sacrifice.”]] “sacrifice”.]] It’s meant to come across as a tough but [[spoiler: ultimately the right choice, as his sacrifice would be necessary to ensure the Losers presented a united front against It.IT.]] But the problem is that we don’t learn of this until after [[spoiler: IT’s defeat]] and most of the time until then presented it as if he were too afraid to face IT again. Instead, his [[spoiler: “not suicide”]] letter comes more across as Stanley trying to rationalize/justify his cowardice.



** Adrian Mellon and his boyfriend Don Haggerty are two completely normal guys set upon by a brutal group of homophobes. Adrian is shown to be a very kind man, giving a prize he won to a little girl for 'letting him win,' and when he stands up for himself to said homophobes, he ends up beaten to near death. When thrown off a bridge, Pennywise makes Adrian his first victim in 27 years. To make this worse, Don can only watch helplessly. His look of relief when seeing Pennywise fish Adrian out of the river - thinking he was a good samaritan - turning to one of horror is ''heartbreaking''.
** The aforementioned little girl, Victoria, or "Vicky," is given a surprising amount of depth beyond 'victim.' She has a port-wine stain mark on her face, resulting in people mocking and ridiculing her, and Pennywise targets her by appealing to her sense of empathy and kindness before promising to remove the mark (by killing her). Even worse, her mother is shown to be [[AbusiveParents quite cold]] to her, meaning Adrian's act of kindness might be the one major expression of kindness she's experienced in a long time. And not only that, but she loses Adrian to Pennywise before she is killed by It herself.
** Dean, a young boy in Derry, is haunted by Pennywise and targeted mostly to torment Bill himself. The poor kid is mistaken for a form of Pennywise by Richie, who he's clearly a fan of, resulting in an enraged rant from him (which Richie regretted immediately after realizing his mistake), and then he's frequently terrorized by the adults who's only wanting to help him for reason he can't understand. Then along comes Pennywise, who corners him in a house of mirrors to sadistically murder with savage relish.
** Richie. If you thought what he went in the first movie was horrible he gets it worse this time around. He accidentally scares away a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die (and covered in his blood).

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** Adrian Mellon and his boyfriend boyfriend, Don Haggerty Haggerty, are two completely normal guys set upon by a brutal group of homophobes. Adrian is shown to be a very kind man, giving a prize he won to a little girl for 'letting him win,' win', and when he stands up for himself to said homophobes, he ends up beaten to near death. When thrown off a bridge, Pennywise makes Adrian his first victim in 27 years. To make this worse, Don can only watch helplessly. His look of relief when seeing Pennywise fish Adrian out of the river - thinking he was a good samaritan Samaritan - turning to one of horror is ''heartbreaking''.
** The aforementioned little girl, Victoria, or "Vicky," "Vicky", is given a surprising amount of depth beyond 'victim.' 'victim'. She has a port-wine stain mark on her face, resulting in people mocking and ridiculing her, and Pennywise targets her by appealing to her sense of empathy and kindness before promising to remove the mark (by killing her). Even worse, her mother is shown to be [[AbusiveParents quite cold]] to her, meaning Adrian's act of kindness might be the one major expression of kindness she's experienced in a long time. And not only that, but she loses Adrian to Pennywise before she herself is killed by It herself.Pennywise.
** Dean, a young boy in Derry, is haunted by Pennywise and targeted mostly to torment Bill himself. The poor kid is mistaken for a form of Pennywise by Richie, who he's clearly a fan of, resulting in an enraged rant from him (which Richie regretted immediately after realizing his mistake), and then he's frequently terrorized by the adults who's who're only wanting to help him for reason he can't understand. Then Then, along comes Pennywise, who corners him in a house of mirrors to sadistically murder with savage relish.
** Richie. If you thought what he went in the first movie was horrible horrible, he gets it worse this time around. He accidentally scares away a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) gay), and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die (and is covered in his blood).


** The extremely brief appearance of Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" during Eddie's flashback. Reviewers have commented that it felt like a random insertion of BlackComedy that broke the suspenseful tone of the sequence - not helped by the song potentially reminding audiences of the opening scene of ''Film/Deadpool2016''.

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** The extremely brief appearance of Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" during Eddie's flashback. Reviewers have commented that it felt like a random insertion of BlackComedy that [[MoodWhiplash broke the suspenseful tone tone]] of the sequence - not helped by the song potentially reminding audiences of the opening scene of ''Film/Deadpool2016''.

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** The extremely brief appearance of Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" during Eddie's flashback. Reviewers have commented that it felt like a random insertion of BlackComedy that broke the suspenseful tone of the sequence - not helped by the song potentially reminding audiences of the opening scene of ''Film/Deadpool2016''.


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* SignatureScene: Pennywise's appearances under the bleachers and in the hall of mirrors [[spoiler:(a.k.a. his two successful child murders)]] were heavily featured in the film's advertisements and have been cited by critics and fans as among the scariest and most well-acted scenes in the film.


** All of the Losers once again, but especially Richie this time around. He accidentally scares away a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die and finding out that Stan took his own life as well.

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** All of Richie. If you thought what he went in the Losers once again, but especially Richie first movie was horrible he gets it worse this time around. He accidentally scares away a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die (and covered in his blood).
** Eddie as well. Loses his friend Stan, crashes his car, gets vomited on by Pennywise, stabbed in the face by Henry, yelled at by Bill
and finding out that Stan took his own life as well.is finally fatally impaled by Pennywise in front of a horrified Richie.


** Even Greta Keene falls victim to this. While she was TheScrappy in the first film, the second film presented an opportunity for her odd almost sort of VitriolicBestBuds relationship with Eddie (where the "best buds" part is entirely on Eddie and the "vitriol" part is entirely on Greta) to be expanded upon more in the past and present, and since she's still living in Derry in the present day, Bev could have confronted her and gotten some closure with her childhood bully. Instead she's essentially a cameo and seems to have undergone zero change from the person she was in her youth, her exchange with Eddie is brief, and she and Bev never meet with each other despite It using a younger Greta as part of a vision to torment Bev in the climax.

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** Even Greta Keene falls victim to this. While she was TheScrappy in the first film, the second film presented an opportunity for her to be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by odd almost sort of VitriolicBestBuds relationship with Eddie (where the "best buds" part is entirely on Eddie and the "vitriol" part is entirely on Greta) to be expanded upon more in the past and present, and since she's still living in Derry in the present day, Bev could have confronted her and gotten some closure with her childhood bully. Instead she's essentially a cameo and seems to have undergone zero change from the person she was in her youth, her exchange with Eddie is brief, and she and Bev never meet with each other despite It using a younger Greta as part of a vision to torment Bev in the climax.


** Along the same lines, this is the second film in 2019 to star Creator/JamesMcAvoy and Creator/JessicaChastain [[Film/DarkPhoenix involving shapeshifting aliens from another planet]]. Whereas in the former Chastain WAS one of the aliens, with [=McAvoy=] fighting them. Here they're on the same side fighting the alien threat.

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** Along the same lines, this is the second film in 2019 to star Creator/JamesMcAvoy and Creator/JessicaChastain [[Film/DarkPhoenix involving shapeshifting aliens from another planet]]. Whereas in the former Chastain WAS one of the aliens, with [=McAvoy=] fighting them. Here Here, they're on the same side fighting the alien threat.


** A lot of the humor in It: Chapter Two runs on this. The scene where Richie kills Bowers comes to mind, most especially.
-->'''Richie:''' [[LamePun Well]] ''[[LamePun that]]'' [[LamePun was long overdue]]! [[DontExplainTheJoke Get it, because we're in a library and]]-- (''[[VomitIndiscretionShot Richie pukes]]'')

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** A lot of the humor in It: Chapter Two runs on this. The scene where Richie kills Bowers comes to mind, most especially.
-->'''Richie:''' [[LamePun Well]] Well,]] ''[[LamePun that]]'' [[LamePun was long overdue]]! overdue]]. [[DontExplainTheJoke Get it, because it? Because we're in a library library, and]]-- (''[[VomitIndiscretionShot Richie pukes]]'')



** Sophia Lillis and Jaeden Lieberher both get to play Pennywise, showing off a whole new range than their roles as the young Beverly and Bill.

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** Sophia Lillis and Jaeden Lieberher Martell both get to play Pennywise, showing off a whole new range than their roles as the young Beverly and Bill.


** All of the Losers once again, but especially Richie this time around. He accidentally angers a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die and finding out that Stan took his own life as well.

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** All of the Losers once again, but especially Richie this time around. He accidentally angers scares away a fan after he thought he was Pennywise, is tormented by Pennywise himself for his secret (being gay) and then watches his best friend and crush Eddie die and finding out that Stan took his own life as well.


* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticised for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot and after Richie kills him to defend Mike he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike)]].

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* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticised criticized for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot and after Richie kills him to defend Mike he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike)]].



** Beverly sees an old photo of a man who looks a lot like Pennywise. It's at this moment you realise just how much of his creepy appearance ''wasn't'' the result of makeup.

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** Beverly sees an old photo of a man who looks a lot like Pennywise. It's at this moment you realise realize just how much of his creepy appearance ''wasn't'' the result of makeup.


* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticised for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot and after Richie kills him to defend Mike he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike]].

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* {{Padding}}: The subplot with an older Henry Bowers escaping the asylum and hunting the Losers has been criticised for adding very little to the film besides bloating out the runtime, and something that was only in the film because it was in the book. [[spoiler: With the exception of injuring Mike and Eddie, Bowers has no other effect on the plot and after Richie kills him to defend Mike he is never mentioned again, He isn't even able to injure the two to the extent that he did in the book (crippling Eddie in one arm and nearly killing Mike]].Mike)]].


* UncannyValley: Beverly sees an old photo of a man who looks a lot like Pennywise. It's at this moment you realise just how much of his creepy appearance ''wasn't'' the result of makeup.

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* UncannyValley: UncannyValley:
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Beverly sees an old photo of a man who looks a lot like Pennywise. It's at this moment you realise just how much of his creepy appearance ''wasn't'' the result of makeup.


* HollywoodHomely: Upon seeing the adult Ben and Beverly, Richie remarks "what the fuck happened to me?" in a pretty disappointed voice, despite being played by Creator/BillHader.


* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Accept what happened in the past and use it as a learning experience to move forward as opposed to running away from it and trying to forget it even happened, because one day it’ll catch up to you when you least expect it.

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* %%* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Accept what happened in the past and use it as a learning experience to move forward as opposed to running away from it and trying to forget it even happened, because one day it’ll catch up to you when you least expect it.

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