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* OneTruePairing: '''Hiccstrid'''. Holy ''shit'', is it sacred to the fanbase (just take a look at the comments on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y19FewB6ckI this video]]). Interestingly, it only became this after the TV show and the sequel came out, with many agreeing that the "romance" in the first film was [[StrangledByTheRedString tacked-on and lacking in depth.]]
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* OneTruePairing: '''Hiccstrid'''. Holy ''shit'', is it sacred to the fanbase (just take a look at the comments on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y19FewB6ckI this video]]). Interestingly, it only became this after the TV show and the sequel came out, with many agreeing that the "romance" in the first film was [[StrangledByTheRedString tacked-on and lacking in depth.]]
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* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: The films anre incredibly popular in the Scandinavian countries. Despite promoting the HornyVikings stereotype and using Scottish accents rather than Scandinavian, many Scandinavians feel that the films portray parts of the Norse culture correctly, something unusual for Hollywood.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Vikings fighting Romans may seem like an anachronism, and it is -- for the ''Western'' Roman Empire. The Eastern Roman UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire existed before, during, and after UsefulNotes/TheVikingAge, and plenty of Norse went there, as traders or mercenaries, though the Romans in the books are pretty clearly based on pop-culture ancient Rome.
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* MagnificentBastard:
** [[TragicVillain Furious]] is a gigantic sea dragon who seeks to [[WellIntentionedExtremist liberate the Viking Archipelago of humans as revenge for the torment they unleashed on him and his kind]]. Orchestrating the second dragon rebellion, Furious manages to rally dragons of all nature for his cause and has them execute attacks with frightening efficiency, resulting in close encounters for the heroes. In the climax of the 12th book, Furious eventually sees how the war has made it hell for both sides and calls a truce. With Excellinor heading to impale Hiccup in a murderous rage, Furious [[HeroicSacrifice flies between Hiccup and the poisoned blade]]. In his final moments, Furious has dragonkind fly to parts unknown so that there would never be a power struggle between the two species again, with Furious [[DyingAsYourself himself heading to the ocean to live his final days in peace]].
** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.
** [[TragicVillain Furious]] is a gigantic sea dragon who seeks to [[WellIntentionedExtremist liberate the Viking Archipelago of humans as revenge for the torment they unleashed on him and his kind]]. Orchestrating the second dragon rebellion, Furious manages to rally dragons of all nature for his cause and has them execute attacks with frightening efficiency, resulting in close encounters for the heroes. In the climax of the 12th book, Furious eventually sees how the war has made it hell for both sides and calls a truce. With Excellinor heading to impale Hiccup in a murderous rage, Furious [[HeroicSacrifice flies between Hiccup and the poisoned blade]]. In his final moments, Furious has dragonkind fly to parts unknown so that there would never be a power struggle between the two species again, with Furious [[DyingAsYourself himself heading to the ocean to live his final days in peace]].
** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.
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* MagnificentBastard:
**MagnificentBastard: [[TragicVillain Furious]] is a gigantic sea dragon who seeks to [[WellIntentionedExtremist liberate the Viking Archipelago of humans as revenge for the torment they unleashed on him and his kind]]. Orchestrating the second dragon rebellion, Furious manages to rally dragons of all nature for his cause and has them execute attacks with frightening efficiency, resulting in close encounters for the heroes. In the climax of the 12th book, Furious eventually sees how the war has made it hell for both sides and calls a truce. With Excellinor heading to impale Hiccup in a murderous rage, Furious [[HeroicSacrifice flies between Hiccup and the poisoned blade]]. In his final moments, Furious has dragonkind fly to parts unknown so that there would never be a power struggle between the two species again, with Furious [[DyingAsYourself himself heading to the ocean to live his final days in peace]].
** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.peace]].
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** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.
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!! YMMV for the film version of ''How to Train Your Dragon'':
* AdaptationDisplacement: Due to the film's enormous popularity, the book isn't very well-known about in comparison. [[note]] T-t-though t-t-t-translators of T-T-Toothless’ speech know at l-l-least [[PorkyPigPronunciation one]] [[ThirdPersonPerson thing]] [[SpeechImpediment about]] [[MythologyGag i-i-it...]] [[/note]]
* AwardSnub:
** It came out the same year as ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' and got overshadowed come award season. To the very least, it ''did'' come out on top for the Annie Awards (to the pleasure of its fans and disdain of Pixar fans). This has sparked some ''ugly controversy'', [[SoreLoser since Disney and Pixar withdrew from the International Animated Film Association]]. They select the Annie Award nominees and winners, accusing Creator/{{DreamWorks|Animation}} of corruption, [[{{Hypocrite}} yet failing to appreciate HTTYD was snubbed by many others in favor of]] ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''.
** Losing the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Original Score to ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''.
* FanNickname: At the Sticks and Stones forum, the posters there have nicknamed the Red/Green Death the "Christmas" Death since no one really knows whether it is "Red" or "Green" since both movie and book disagree on that issue.
* FandomSpecificPlot:
** People like to speculate what exactly happens if Hiccup and Toothless actually left without Astrid there to interrupt that plan, both seeing what Hiccup and Toothless are up to in the wider world in that allotted time and see what would happen to Berk without Hiccup there.
** What would happen if Stoick had not interrupted when Hiccup was close to taming the Monstrous Nightmare?
** {{Dark Fic}}s prefer to have Hiccup treated as a traitor by the Hooligan Tribe shortly after being outed as a Dragon Rider and being made an outcast, Hiccup JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope from the TraumaCongaLine.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** During Hiccup's sarcastic imitation of Stoick he complains that his father always wanted "An extra large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side. This here -- This is a talking fishbone". It seems hilarious at first, until you watch one episode in TV series and then near the end of the sequel. First, in the ''Riders of Berk'' episode, "Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man", Stoick thinks the painting of his son as bigger and buffer than he is ''better'' than how Hiccup really looks sadly confirms Hiccup's rant which just crushes Hiccup who's already a ''major'' WellDoneSonGuy; Secondly, the sequel reveals that Hiccup was born prematurely and it looked like he wasn't going to survive.
** The TrainingMontage can be rough too after the sequels, since the captured training dragons become the students' beloved mounts. It's jarring seeing Astrid inches from putting an axe in Stormfly.
** Toothless is captured in the first film after Hiccup stops him from firing at Stoick. [[spoiler:The second film has a distressingly similar moment, though this time [[KilledOffForReal Stoick doesn't get out unscathed]]]].
** Stoick angrily disowning Hiccup after finding out about Toothless suddenly makes more sense after the revelations in the second film. Seeing him tame dragons likely made Stoick think that Hiccup would turn out like his [[MissingMom mother]], or even become another [[GreaterScopeVillain Drago Bludvist]].
* InferredHolocaust: While there are no onscreen deaths, it's stated outright that there have been countless casualties on both sides from the war between Vikings and dragons, which is hardly surprising seeing that it's lasted for ''centuries'' before the film even begins.
-->'''Stoick''': They've killed hundreds of us!\\
'''Hiccup''': And we've killed THOUSANDS of them!
** [[spoiler: While the Red Death didn't get the chance to wipe the Vikings out, we see many of them are very close to the ships as it sets them on fire, which should have killed a number of them, but all we see are some falling into the water.]]
* MemeticMutation: An alteration of the ''Film/JurassicPark'' logo featuring Toothless and the phrase "USELESS REPTILE."
* MoralEventHorizon: The Red Death shows itself to be the vilest dragon to have appeared in the [=DreamWorks=] franchise when it's revealed to have enslaved countless dragons and sent them off to war against the Hairy Hooligan Tribe for centuries, resulting in thousands of its own dragons and hundreds of Vikings dead, [[EvilIsPetty all because it refuses to get its own food]].
* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Astrid's feelings towards Hiccup can come off looking like a complete 180 going from a jealous training rival to showing romantic interest after sharing just one flight together on the back of a dragon.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: This film has been hailed as one of the finest creations of a UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie ever made with the visual enhancement making the flying (and falling!) scenes all the more enthralling on top of the conventional cinematic artistry.
* AdaptationDisplacement: Due to the film's enormous popularity, the book isn't very well-known about in comparison. [[note]] T-t-though t-t-t-translators of T-T-Toothless’ speech know at l-l-least [[PorkyPigPronunciation one]] [[ThirdPersonPerson thing]] [[SpeechImpediment about]] [[MythologyGag i-i-it...]] [[/note]]
* AwardSnub:
** It came out the same year as ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' and got overshadowed come award season. To the very least, it ''did'' come out on top for the Annie Awards (to the pleasure of its fans and disdain of Pixar fans). This has sparked some ''ugly controversy'', [[SoreLoser since Disney and Pixar withdrew from the International Animated Film Association]]. They select the Annie Award nominees and winners, accusing Creator/{{DreamWorks|Animation}} of corruption, [[{{Hypocrite}} yet failing to appreciate HTTYD was snubbed by many others in favor of]] ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''.
** Losing the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward for Best Original Score to ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''.
* FanNickname: At the Sticks and Stones forum, the posters there have nicknamed the Red/Green Death the "Christmas" Death since no one really knows whether it is "Red" or "Green" since both movie and book disagree on that issue.
* FandomSpecificPlot:
** People like to speculate what exactly happens if Hiccup and Toothless actually left without Astrid there to interrupt that plan, both seeing what Hiccup and Toothless are up to in the wider world in that allotted time and see what would happen to Berk without Hiccup there.
** What would happen if Stoick had not interrupted when Hiccup was close to taming the Monstrous Nightmare?
** {{Dark Fic}}s prefer to have Hiccup treated as a traitor by the Hooligan Tribe shortly after being outed as a Dragon Rider and being made an outcast, Hiccup JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope from the TraumaCongaLine.
* HarsherInHindsight:
** During Hiccup's sarcastic imitation of Stoick he complains that his father always wanted "An extra large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side. This here -- This is a talking fishbone". It seems hilarious at first, until you watch one episode in TV series and then near the end of the sequel. First, in the ''Riders of Berk'' episode, "Portrait of Hiccup as a Buff Young Man", Stoick thinks the painting of his son as bigger and buffer than he is ''better'' than how Hiccup really looks sadly confirms Hiccup's rant which just crushes Hiccup who's already a ''major'' WellDoneSonGuy; Secondly, the sequel reveals that Hiccup was born prematurely and it looked like he wasn't going to survive.
** The TrainingMontage can be rough too after the sequels, since the captured training dragons become the students' beloved mounts. It's jarring seeing Astrid inches from putting an axe in Stormfly.
** Toothless is captured in the first film after Hiccup stops him from firing at Stoick. [[spoiler:The second film has a distressingly similar moment, though this time [[KilledOffForReal Stoick doesn't get out unscathed]]]].
** Stoick angrily disowning Hiccup after finding out about Toothless suddenly makes more sense after the revelations in the second film. Seeing him tame dragons likely made Stoick think that Hiccup would turn out like his [[MissingMom mother]], or even become another [[GreaterScopeVillain Drago Bludvist]].
* InferredHolocaust: While there are no onscreen deaths, it's stated outright that there have been countless casualties on both sides from the war between Vikings and dragons, which is hardly surprising seeing that it's lasted for ''centuries'' before the film even begins.
-->'''Stoick''': They've killed hundreds of us!\\
'''Hiccup''': And we've killed THOUSANDS of them!
** [[spoiler: While the Red Death didn't get the chance to wipe the Vikings out, we see many of them are very close to the ships as it sets them on fire, which should have killed a number of them, but all we see are some falling into the water.]]
* MemeticMutation: An alteration of the ''Film/JurassicPark'' logo featuring Toothless and the phrase "USELESS REPTILE."
* MoralEventHorizon: The Red Death shows itself to be the vilest dragon to have appeared in the [=DreamWorks=] franchise when it's revealed to have enslaved countless dragons and sent them off to war against the Hairy Hooligan Tribe for centuries, resulting in thousands of its own dragons and hundreds of Vikings dead, [[EvilIsPetty all because it refuses to get its own food]].
* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Astrid's feelings towards Hiccup can come off looking like a complete 180 going from a jealous training rival to showing romantic interest after sharing just one flight together on the back of a dragon.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: This film has been hailed as one of the finest creations of a UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie ever made with the visual enhancement making the flying (and falling!) scenes all the more enthralling on top of the conventional cinematic artistry.
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* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: This film has been hailed as one of the finest creations of a UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie ever made with the visual enhancement making the flying (and falling!) scenes all the more enthralling on top of the conventional cinematic artistry.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Though the other two movies have their fans, both are also [[ContestedSequel contentious]] for different reasons, like the BigBad Drago being a FlatCharacter, several characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter underutilised]] and a poor tone balance in the case of the former and a highly divisive ending for the latter. As a result, there are plenty of fans who prefer the first movie for its charm and lacking said contentious elements, and this is reflected in its 99% rating on Website/RottenTomatoes compared to the sequels' lesser (albeit still high) 92% and 91% respective ratings.
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** There's also a fair similarity plot-wise: an outcast child bullied by others in their community befriends a powerful, dangerous creature feared by all, managing to uncover a good and gentle side in the creature. Both the franchises TV series adaptations also have similarities in the episodic GottaCatchEmAll narrative, with the main protagonists trying to rescue experiments/dragons and learn how to use their unique abilities for good.
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** There's also a fair similarity plot-wise: an outcast child bullied by others in their community befriends a powerful, dangerous creature feared by all, managing to uncover a good and gentle side in the creature. Both the franchises franchises' TV series adaptations also have similarities in the episodic GottaCatchEmAll narrative, with the main protagonists trying to rescue experiments/dragons and learn how to use their unique abilities for good.
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* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
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* SelfFanservice: Thanks to her EnsembleDarkHorse position, Ruffnut gets a lot of this. In canon she's honestly not particularly pretty, largely because she looks a lot like her HalfIdenticalTwin brother Tuffnut (who isn't particularly androgynous either). But just wait until you see [[https://deviantart.com/kerrie-jenkins/art/Ruffnut-199737526 how the fans draw her...]]
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* SelfFanservice: Thanks to her EnsembleDarkHorse position, Ruffnut gets a lot of this. In canon canon, she's honestly not particularly pretty, largely because she looks a lot like her HalfIdenticalTwin brother Tuffnut (who isn't particularly androgynous either). But just wait until you see [[https://deviantart.com/kerrie-jenkins/art/Ruffnut-199737526 how the fans draw her...]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The creators of the ''Arena Spectacular'' decided to go for an emphasis on realism when designing the animatronics, as the ''Walking With Dinosaurs Arena Spectacular'' had before it. Unfortunately, this misses the point of the designs (where the ''Dinosaurs'' franchise is known for its realistic CGI constructs, ''Dragons'' is known for it's memorably cartoony and exaggerated designs.) This attempt brought the dragons straight into the UnintentionalUncannyValley, with Toothless going from an adorable lizard-panther into something that can best be described as [[http://www.global-creatures.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dragon-Hiccup-with-saddle.jpg a nightmarish bat-toad.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The creators of the ''Arena Spectacular'' decided to go for an emphasis on realism when designing the animatronics, as the ''Walking With Dinosaurs Arena Spectacular'' had before it. Unfortunately, this misses the point of the designs (where the ''Dinosaurs'' franchise is known for its realistic CGI constructs, ''Dragons'' is known for it's its memorably cartoony and exaggerated designs.) This attempt brought the dragons straight into the UnintentionalUncannyValley, with Toothless going from an adorable lizard-panther into something that can best be described as [[http://www.global-creatures.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dragon-Hiccup-with-saddle.jpg a nightmarish bat-toad.]]
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: This film has been hailed as one of the finest creations of a UsefulNotes/ThreeDMovie ever made with the visual enhancement making the flying (and falling!) scenes all the more enthralling on top of the conventional cinematic artistry.
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* {{Adorkable}}:
** There's been plenty of fan gushing at how cute the geeky Hiccup is. This should really be expected when he's voiced by Creator/JayBaruchel.
** Toothless, "The Offspring of Lightning and Death", is also one of the biggest dorks, and nowhere does he prove it more than when he starts courting the Light Fury in [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld the third movie]].
** Astrid can be a bit of an endearing dork when acting playful with Hiccup. Her adorkable side also came forth in ''WesternAnimation/GiftOfTheNightFury'' when she tried different methods to bring in the holiday spirits.
** Fishlegs is quite similar to Hiccup. He's a huge LovableNerd who likes to spout random dragon facts.
* AngstWhatAngst:
** After the final battle, [[spoiler: Hiccup has but a few moments of remorse upon waking to find that he's lost his left foot and been given a metal replacement. But forget angst--there are dragons outside and they are now a part of the Viking village! There's also the fact that he lost his foot in battle like a ''real Viking'' -- which he had wished for all his life before befriending Toothless. Finally, he gets a big kiss from Astrid meaning he has the local ActionGirl as his girlfriend.]]
** There's also the fact that Hiccup just lets 15 years of abuse from his tribe slide off without any resentment towards them.
** There's been plenty of fan gushing at how cute the geeky Hiccup is. This should really be expected when he's voiced by Creator/JayBaruchel.
** Toothless, "The Offspring of Lightning and Death", is also one of the biggest dorks, and nowhere does he prove it more than when he starts courting the Light Fury in [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld the third movie]].
** Astrid can be a bit of an endearing dork when acting playful with Hiccup. Her adorkable side also came forth in ''WesternAnimation/GiftOfTheNightFury'' when she tried different methods to bring in the holiday spirits.
** Fishlegs is quite similar to Hiccup. He's a huge LovableNerd who likes to spout random dragon facts.
* AngstWhatAngst:
** After the final battle, [[spoiler: Hiccup has but a few moments of remorse upon waking to find that he's lost his left foot and been given a metal replacement. But forget angst--there are dragons outside and they are now a part of the Viking village! There's also the fact that he lost his foot in battle like a ''real Viking'' -- which he had wished for all his life before befriending Toothless. Finally, he gets a big kiss from Astrid meaning he has the local ActionGirl as his girlfriend.]]
** There's also the fact that Hiccup just lets 15 years of abuse from his tribe slide off without any resentment towards them.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Stoick. The. Vast. To a good portion of the fanbase, he counts as an AbusiveParent due to his tough words to Hiccup in the movie, and occasionally in the show. To another portion, he represents ParentsAsPeople who has to balance his job as chief and father.
* CrossoverShip: Due to how both films were released in the same year, there's a fair amount of Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]].
** And due to [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} another animated fantasy film set in roughly the same time period and setting]], Hiccup[=/=]Merida has been cropping up as well.
*** And even the Slash fangirls have their pairing, Hiccup and [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]].
** Count the amount of fan arts that contain RMHJ in the same instance. That is the power preventing a Pixar/[=DreamWorks=] war.
** Another popular pairing is Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania Mavis Dracula]].
* CrossoverShip: Due to how both films were released in the same year, there's a fair amount of Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]].
** And due to [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} another animated fantasy film set in roughly the same time period and setting]], Hiccup[=/=]Merida has been cropping up as well.
*** And even the Slash fangirls have their pairing, Hiccup and [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]].
** Count the amount of fan arts that contain RMHJ in the same instance. That is the power preventing a Pixar/[=DreamWorks=] war.
** Another popular pairing is Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania Mavis Dracula]].
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* {{Fanon}}: While Snotlout was Hiccup's cousin in the books, no such relations are ever mentioned in the films and animated series, the Haddock and the Jorgensons being portrayed more as FeudingFamilies than competing branches of the same clan. Regardless, fans and fanfiction still see them as cousins, with a lot of Snotlout's attitude towards Hiccup being based around his position as heir to the chiefdom.
* FirstInstallmentWins: Though the other two movies have their fans, both are also [[ContestedSequel contentious]] for different reasons, like the BigBad Drago being a FlatCharacter, several characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter underutilised]] and a poor tone balance in the case of the former and a highly divisive ending for the latter. As a result, there are plenty of fans who prefer the first movie for its charm and lacking said contentious elements, and this is reflected in its 99% rating on Website/RottenTomatoes compared to the sequels' lesser (albeit still high) 92% and 91% respective ratings.
* FriendlyFandoms: With ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', mostly due to Creator/ChrisSanders and Creator/DeanDeBlois' involvement with both original films and Toothless's uncanny resemblance to Stitch (the latter who Sanders made and voiced in the heyday of the ''Franchise/LiloAndStitch'' franchise). There's a huge amount of FanArt of the two of them playing. And after the official reveal and later release of ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld'', this has expanded to include their DistaffCounterpart mates; Stitch's girlfriend [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries An]][[Anime/{{Stitch}} gel]] and Toothless's mate the Light Fury.
** There's also a fair similarity plot-wise: an outcast child bullied by others in their community befriends a powerful, dangerous creature feared by all, managing to uncover a good and gentle side in the creature. Both the franchises TV series adaptations also have similarities in the episodic GottaCatchEmAll narrative, with the main protagonists trying to rescue experiments/dragons and learn how to use their unique abilities for good.
* FirstInstallmentWins: Though the other two movies have their fans, both are also [[ContestedSequel contentious]] for different reasons, like the BigBad Drago being a FlatCharacter, several characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter underutilised]] and a poor tone balance in the case of the former and a highly divisive ending for the latter. As a result, there are plenty of fans who prefer the first movie for its charm and lacking said contentious elements, and this is reflected in its 99% rating on Website/RottenTomatoes compared to the sequels' lesser (albeit still high) 92% and 91% respective ratings.
* FriendlyFandoms: With ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', mostly due to Creator/ChrisSanders and Creator/DeanDeBlois' involvement with both original films and Toothless's uncanny resemblance to Stitch (the latter who Sanders made and voiced in the heyday of the ''Franchise/LiloAndStitch'' franchise). There's a huge amount of FanArt of the two of them playing. And after the official reveal and later release of ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld'', this has expanded to include their DistaffCounterpart mates; Stitch's girlfriend [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries An]][[Anime/{{Stitch}} gel]] and Toothless's mate the Light Fury.
** There's also a fair similarity plot-wise: an outcast child bullied by others in their community befriends a powerful, dangerous creature feared by all, managing to uncover a good and gentle side in the creature. Both the franchises TV series adaptations also have similarities in the episodic GottaCatchEmAll narrative, with the main protagonists trying to rescue experiments/dragons and learn how to use their unique abilities for good.
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* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
* OneTruePairing: '''Hiccstrid'''. Holy ''shit'', is it sacred to the fanbase (just take a look at the comments on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y19FewB6ckI this video]]). Interestingly, it only became this after the TV show and the sequel came out, with many agreeing that the "romance" in the first film was [[StrangledByTheRedString tacked-on and lacking in depth.]]
* SelfFanservice: Thanks to her EnsembleDarkHorse position, Ruffnut gets a lot of this. In canon she's honestly not particularly pretty, largely because she looks a lot like her HalfIdenticalTwin brother Tuffnut (who isn't particularly androgynous either). But just wait until you see [[https://deviantart.com/kerrie-jenkins/art/Ruffnut-199737526 how the fans draw her...]]
* SignatureScene: The "Forbidden Friendship" scene where Hiccup and Toothless bond and the "Test Drive" scene where they have their first full flight over the sea are often cited as the most memorable, iconic moments in the entire franchise.
* OneTruePairing: '''Hiccstrid'''. Holy ''shit'', is it sacred to the fanbase (just take a look at the comments on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y19FewB6ckI this video]]). Interestingly, it only became this after the TV show and the sequel came out, with many agreeing that the "romance" in the first film was [[StrangledByTheRedString tacked-on and lacking in depth.]]
* SelfFanservice: Thanks to her EnsembleDarkHorse position, Ruffnut gets a lot of this. In canon she's honestly not particularly pretty, largely because she looks a lot like her HalfIdenticalTwin brother Tuffnut (who isn't particularly androgynous either). But just wait until you see [[https://deviantart.com/kerrie-jenkins/art/Ruffnut-199737526 how the fans draw her...]]
* SignatureScene: The "Forbidden Friendship" scene where Hiccup and Toothless bond and the "Test Drive" scene where they have their first full flight over the sea are often cited as the most memorable, iconic moments in the entire franchise.
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* {{Adorkable}}:
** There's been plenty of fan gushing at how cute the geeky Hiccup is. This should really be expected when he's voiced by Creator/JayBaruchel.
** Toothless, "The Offspring of Lightning and Death", is also one of the biggest dorks, and nowhere does he prove it more than when he starts courting the Light Fury in [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld the third movie]].
** Astrid can be a bit of an endearing dork when acting playful with Hiccup. Her adorkable side also came forth in ''WesternAnimation/GiftOfTheNightFury'' when she tried different methods to bring in the holiday spirits.
** Fishlegs is quite similar to Hiccup. He's a huge LovableNerd who likes to spout random dragon facts.
* AngstWhatAngst:
** After the final battle, [[spoiler: Hiccup has but a few moments of remorse upon waking to find that he's lost his left foot and been given a metal replacement. But forget angst--there are dragons outside and they are now a part of the Viking village! There's also the fact that he lost his foot in battle like a ''real Viking'' -- which he had wished for all his life before befriending Toothless. Finally, he gets a big kiss from Astrid meaning he has the local ActionGirl as his girlfriend.]]
** There's also the fact that Hiccup just lets 15 years of abuse from his tribe slide off without any resentment towards them.
* BaseBreakingCharacter: Stoick. The. Vast. To a good portion of the fanbase, he counts as an AbusiveParent due to his tough words to Hiccup in the movie, and occasionally in the show. To another portion, he represents ParentsAsPeople who has to balance his job as chief and father.
* CrossoverShip: Due to how both films were released in the same year, there's a fair amount of Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]].
** And due to [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} another animated fantasy film set in roughly the same time period and setting]], Hiccup[=/=]Merida has been cropping up as well.
*** And even the Slash fangirls have their pairing, Hiccup and [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]].
** Count the amount of fan arts that contain RMHJ in the same instance. That is the power preventing a Pixar/[=DreamWorks=] war.
** Another popular pairing is Hiccup[=/=][[WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania Mavis Dracula]].
* {{Fanon}}: While Snotlout was Hiccup's cousin in the books, no such relations are ever mentioned in the films and animated series, the Haddock and the Jorgensons being portrayed more as FeudingFamilies than competing branches of the same clan. Regardless, fans and fanfiction still see them as cousins, with a lot of Snotlout's attitude towards Hiccup being based around his position as heir to the chiefdom.
* FirstInstallmentWins: Though the other two movies have their fans, both are also [[ContestedSequel contentious]] for different reasons, like the BigBad Drago being a FlatCharacter, several characters being [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter underutilised]] and a poor tone balance in the case of the former and a highly divisive ending for the latter. As a result, there are plenty of fans who prefer the first movie for its charm and lacking said contentious elements, and this is reflected in its 99% rating on Website/RottenTomatoes compared to the sequels' lesser (albeit still high) 92% and 91% respective ratings.
* FriendlyFandoms: With ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch'', mostly due to Creator/ChrisSanders and Creator/DeanDeBlois' involvement with both original films and Toothless's uncanny resemblance to Stitch (the latter who Sanders made and voiced in the heyday of the ''Franchise/LiloAndStitch'' franchise). There's a huge amount of FanArt of the two of them playing. And after the official reveal and later release of ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonTheHiddenWorld'', this has expanded to include their DistaffCounterpart mates; Stitch's girlfriend [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries An]][[Anime/{{Stitch}} gel]] and Toothless's mate the Light Fury.
** There's also a fair similarity plot-wise: an outcast child bullied by others in their community befriends a powerful, dangerous creature feared by all, managing to uncover a good and gentle side in the creature. Both the franchises TV series adaptations also have similarities in the episodic GottaCatchEmAll narrative, with the main protagonists trying to rescue experiments/dragons and learn how to use their unique abilities for good.
* MemeticMolester: Ruffnut will grope anyone and anything.
* NarmCharm: According to the DVD commentary, the scene where Astrid interrogates Hiccup about his LevelGrinding before finding Toothless was supposed to be funny. The writers found the scene hilarious, but test audiences found Astrid showing up a few feet from where the dragon was hidden, about to discover Hiccup's secret, agonizingly suspenseful (which, the writers admit, was a good thing).%%If there is a trope for "something supposed to be funny comes across as serious/scary/the opposite of funny", please change.
* OneTruePairing: '''Hiccstrid'''. Holy ''shit'', is it sacred to the fanbase (just take a look at the comments on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y19FewB6ckI this video]]). Interestingly, it only became this after the TV show and the sequel came out, with many agreeing that the "romance" in the first film was [[StrangledByTheRedString tacked-on and lacking in depth.]]
* SelfFanservice: Thanks to her EnsembleDarkHorse position, Ruffnut gets a lot of this. In canon she's honestly not particularly pretty, largely because she looks a lot like her HalfIdenticalTwin brother Tuffnut (who isn't particularly androgynous either). But just wait until you see [[https://deviantart.com/kerrie-jenkins/art/Ruffnut-199737526 how the fans draw her...]]
* SignatureScene: The "Forbidden Friendship" scene where Hiccup and Toothless bond and the "Test Drive" scene where they have their first full flight over the sea are often cited as the most memorable, iconic moments in the entire franchise.
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* MagnificentBastard:
** [[TragicVillain Furious]] is a gigantic sea dragon who seeks to [[WellIntentionedExtremist liberate the Viking Archipelago of humans as revenge for the torment they unleashed on him and his kind]]. Orchestrating the second dragon rebellion, Furious manages to rally dragons of all nature for his cause and has them execute attacks with frightening efficiency, resulting in close encounters for the heroes. In the climax of the 12th book, Furious eventually sees how the war has made it hell for both sides and calls a truce. With Excellinor heading to impale Hiccup in a murderous rage, Furious [[HeroicSacrifice flies between Hiccup and the poisoned blade]]. In his final moments, Furious has dragonkind fly to parts unknown so that there would never be a power struggle between the two species again, with Furious [[DyingAsYourself himself heading to the ocean to live his final days in peace]].
** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.
** [[TragicVillain Furious]] is a gigantic sea dragon who seeks to [[WellIntentionedExtremist liberate the Viking Archipelago of humans as revenge for the torment they unleashed on him and his kind]]. Orchestrating the second dragon rebellion, Furious manages to rally dragons of all nature for his cause and has them execute attacks with frightening efficiency, resulting in close encounters for the heroes. In the climax of the 12th book, Furious eventually sees how the war has made it hell for both sides and calls a truce. With Excellinor heading to impale Hiccup in a murderous rage, Furious [[HeroicSacrifice flies between Hiccup and the poisoned blade]]. In his final moments, Furious has dragonkind fly to parts unknown so that there would never be a power struggle between the two species again, with Furious [[DyingAsYourself himself heading to the ocean to live his final days in peace]].
** [[AxCrazy Norbert The Nutjob]], despite his crazy nature, stands out as one of Hiccup's [[GeniusDitz smartest human foes]]. First introduced in the 4th book, Norbert showcases his relentlessness as he pursues the heroes down the ski slopes. With the Doomfang leaving Hysteria, Norbert allows Hiccup and his friends to leave as a sign of gratitude, despite the trouble Hiccup had caused. Striking a deal with Madguts, Norbert had him capture Hiccup with his dragons while providing Madguts a means to get revenge against the Hooligan tribe for his ancestor. Norbert's goal is a journey to America across the ocean, where [[CrazyPrepared he has taken numerous precautions against threats]]. Despite wanting Hiccup dead, Norbert shows [[PragmaticVillainy major restraint]] as he know that without Hiccup, the journey would be doomed. Seemingly killed off by the end of the 7th book, Norbert briefly appears in the finale, [[HeelFaceTurn showing that he's now once a part of the tribe he had enslaved]], yet accepted him and sees Hiccup as the one who should be King of the Wildewest.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The creators of the ''Arena Spectacular'' decided to go for an emphasis on realism when designing the animatronics, as the ''Walking With Dinosaurs Arena Spectacular'' had before it. Unfortunately, this misses the point of the designs (where the ''Dinosaurs'' franchise is known for its realistic CGI constructs, ''Dragons'' is known for it's memorably cartoony and exaggerated designs.) This attempt brought the dragons straight into the UncannyValley, with Toothless going from an adorable lizard-panther into something that can best be described as [[http://www.global-creatures.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dragon-Hiccup-with-saddle.jpg a nightmarish bat-toad.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The creators of the ''Arena Spectacular'' decided to go for an emphasis on realism when designing the animatronics, as the ''Walking With Dinosaurs Arena Spectacular'' had before it. Unfortunately, this misses the point of the designs (where the ''Dinosaurs'' franchise is known for its realistic CGI constructs, ''Dragons'' is known for it's memorably cartoony and exaggerated designs.) This attempt brought the dragons straight into the UncannyValley, UnintentionalUncannyValley, with Toothless going from an adorable lizard-panther into something that can best be described as [[http://www.global-creatures.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dragon-Hiccup-with-saddle.jpg a nightmarish bat-toad.]]
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** Stoick the Vast is also a bigger Woobie here than he is in the movies because he is DumbMuscle who [[PapaWolf loves his son]] and does the best that he can as a (mostly) single parent, chief, while not comprehending that the world needs to change and that change has a price. Not to mention that with his son nearly dying once a book he goes through a lot of AdultFear.
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** Stoick the Vast is also a bigger Woobie here than he is in the movies because he is DumbMuscle who [[PapaWolf loves his son]] and does the best that he can as a (mostly) single parent, chief, while not comprehending that the world needs to change and that change has a price. Not to mention that with his son nearly dying once a book he goes through a lot of AdultFear.book.
