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** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
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** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
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** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering how one of his most famous roles was as [[Series/{{House}} a certain doctor]] who was noted as being very Holmesian. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, Creator/HughLaurie as Mycroft, specially considering how one of his most famous roles was as [[Series/{{House}} a certain doctor]] who was noted as being very Holmesian. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The first thing people will often mention about this movie is that Creator/{{Netflix}}, renowned for shows that are SoOkayItsAverage at best, turned this down.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The first thing people will often mention about this movie is that Creator/{{Netflix}}, renowned for having next-to-nil quality control (resulting in having a litany of shows that are SoOkayItsAverage at best, best), turned this down.
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* MagnificentBitch: [[spoiler:[[TheDogWasTheMastermind Rose Hudson]] poses as [[BunnyEarsLawyer Sherlock Holmes]]' housekeeper to study him. Secretly the abandoned [[DaddysLittleVillain daughter]] of Professor James Moriarty, Hudson seeks to impress her father by doing what he could not: defeating Holmes. Through her criminal network, Hudson sends Holmes and his companion, Dr. John Watson, on a wild goose chase while she plots to kill [[UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria the Queen]]. Fooling Holmes into declaring Watson the culprit, she captures the arrested Watson and forces him to write about her victory before planting a bomb to kill the Queen aboard the ''Titanic'', coming within literal seconds of success]].
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** [[spoiler:[[TheDogWasTheMastermind Rose Hudson]] poses as [[BunnyEarsLawyer Sherlock Holmes]]' housekeeper to study him. Secretly the abandoned [[DaddysLittleVillain daughter]] of Professor James Moriarty, Hudson seeks to impress her father by doing what he could not: defeating Holmes. Through her criminal network, Hudson sends Holmes and his companion, Dr. John Watson, on a wild goose chase while she plots to kill [[UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria the Queen]]. Fooling Holmes into declaring Watson the culprit, she captures the arrested Watson and forces him to write about her victory before planting a bomb to kill the Queen aboard the ''Titanic'', coming within literal seconds ofsuccess]].success]].
** [[DiabolicalMastermind Professor James Moriarty]] himself is the "Napoleon of Crime" in London, as well as Holmes' ArchEnemy and intellectual equal. Stumping even Holmes in his meticulous misdeeds, Moriarty sets up [[FallGuy another man]] to take the fall while he himself sails off to America, escaping justice and only being hunted for by Holmes at the film's end.
** [[spoiler:[[TheDogWasTheMastermind Rose Hudson]] poses as [[BunnyEarsLawyer Sherlock Holmes]]' housekeeper to study him. Secretly the abandoned [[DaddysLittleVillain daughter]] of Professor James Moriarty, Hudson seeks to impress her father by doing what he could not: defeating Holmes. Through her criminal network, Hudson sends Holmes and his companion, Dr. John Watson, on a wild goose chase while she plots to kill [[UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria the Queen]]. Fooling Holmes into declaring Watson the culprit, she captures the arrested Watson and forces him to write about her victory before planting a bomb to kill the Queen aboard the ''Titanic'', coming within literal seconds of
** [[DiabolicalMastermind Professor James Moriarty]] himself is the "Napoleon of Crime" in London, as well as Holmes' ArchEnemy and intellectual equal. Stumping even Holmes in his meticulous misdeeds, Moriarty sets up [[FallGuy another man]] to take the fall while he himself sails off to America, escaping justice and only being hunted for by Holmes at the film's end.
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** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation of the works. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The totally random musical number involving Holmes and Watson suddenly declaring their love for each other after Holmes discovers how much Watson looked up to him. For one thing, the movie isn't actually a musical.
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** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious period piece.
** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious period piece.
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** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more seriousperiod piece.production.
** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious
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* {{Anvilicious}}: This movie has such extremely in-your-face and [[AnachronismStew anachronistic]] jabs at UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump that even people who don't support him will probably find them groan-worthy.
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** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffaCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious period piece.
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** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffaCounterpart DistaffCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious period piece.
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** Creator/RebeccaHall does a pretty decent job at selling her character as a sort of DistaffaCounterpart to Holmes, lowbrow comedy (like the ''Ghost'' parody at the morgue with Watson) notwithstanding, to the point she could have very well played a Holmes-esque character (if not an outright [[GenderFlip gender-flipped]] Holmes) in a more serious period piece.
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* MagnificentBitch: [[spoiler:[[TheDogWasTheMastermind Rose Hudson]] poses as [[BunnyEarsLawyer Sherlock Holmes]]' housekeeper to study him. Secretly the abandoned [[DaddysLittleVillain daughter]] of Professor James Moriarty, Hudson seeks to impress her father by doing what he could not: defeating Holmes. Through her criminal network, Hudson sends Holmes and his companion, Dr. John Watson, on a wild goose chase while she plots to kill [[UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria the Queen]]. Fooling Holmes into declaring Watson the culprit, she captures the arrested Watson and forces him to write about her victory before planting a bomb to kill the Queen aboard the ''Titanic'', coming within literal seconds of success]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: The first thing people will often mention about this movie is that Netflix, renowned for shows that are SoOkayItsAverage at best, turned this down.
** "[[EveryoneHasStandards Not even]] Creator/{{Netflix}} wanted it!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Due to Netflix's refusal to buy the movie off Creator/SonyPictures, which considering Netflix's infamously lax standards regarding quality says a lot about how bad the movie really is.[[/labelnote]]
* NeverLiveItDown: The first thing people will often mention about this movie is that Netflix, renowned for shows that are SoOkayItsAverage at best, turned this down.
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* HoYay: As usual with Watson and Sherlock.
** When Holmes discovers how much Watson looked up to him, Holmes and Watson sing about each other. Holmes also buys a bouquet of flowers and rushes to the jailhouse to declare his love for Watson.
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* BileFascination: Quite a few people went to see the movie purely after hearing just how ''bad'' it supposedly was. Needless to say, many were not disappointed.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: This movie has some extremely in-your-face and [[AnachronismStew anachronistic]] jabs at UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump that even people who don't like Trump will find groan-worthy. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And let's leave it at that]].
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* {{Anvilicious}}: This movie has some extremely in-your-face and [[AnachronismStew anachronistic]] jabs at UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump that even people who don't like Trump support him will find groan-worthy. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And let's leave it at that]].groan-worthy.
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** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation of the works. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation of the works. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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** Due to the film being released near the very end of 2018, many have joked that critics were filled with regret that they already made their worst films of the year lists before seeing this film.
** The film also gained plenty of attention for the numerous reports of people walking out of the movie long before the credits rolled.
** "[[EveryoneHasStandards Not even]] Creator/{{Netflix}} wanted it!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Due to Netflix's refusal to buy the movie off Creator/SonyPictures, which considering Netflix's infamously lax standards regarding quality says a lot about how bad the movie really is.[[/labelnote]]
** Due to the film being released near the very end of 2018, many have joked that critics were filled with regret that they already made their worst films of the year lists before seeing this film.
** The film also gained plenty of attention for the numerous reports of people walking out of the movie long before the credits rolled.
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** "[[EveryoneHasStandards Not even]] Creator/{{Netflix}} wanted it!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Due to Netflix's refusal to buy the movie off Creator/SonyPictures, which considering Netflix's infamously lax standards regarding quality says a lot about how bad the movie really is.[[/labelnote]]
** Due to the film being released near the very end of 2018, many have joked that critics were filled with regret that they already made their worst films of the year lists before seeing this film.
** The film also gained plenty of attention for the numerous reports of people walking out of the movie long before the credits rolled.
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** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
** Creator/RalphFiennes as Moriarty is a match made in movie casting heaven. Unfortunately, he was used in a lowbrow parody of ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' as opposed to a more serious adaptation of the works. The fact that he doesn't have much screentime doesn't help.
** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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** Ditto with Creator/HughLaurie, specially considering the very [[Series/{{House}} Holmesian doctor]] he once played. He could've been a perfect Mycroft in a more serious ''Sherlock Holmes'' work as well.
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