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** The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amount to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.
** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's abundant profanity, for that matter, with Gotti's bizarre, almost nonsensical "park a bus up your ass fukin sideways" line not far behind it.
** Travolta portrays Gotti with makeup to make him appear older. Travolta at the time of filming was 2 years older than John Gotti was when he died.
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** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's abundant profanity, for that matter, with Gotti's bizarre, almost nonsensical "park a bus up your ass" line not far behind it.

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** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's abundant profanity, for that matter, with Gotti's bizarre, almost nonsensical "park a bus up your ass" ass fukin sideways" line not far behind it.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighborhood-Friendly [[NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighbourhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.
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nm; turns out Gotti's battle with cancer was actually for four years, not two


* HarsherInHindsight: The end of the film has John Gotti dying after a two-year battle with throat cancer. Kelly Preston, who was married to Creator/JohnTravolta, was diagnosed with breast cancer around the film was released, and died two years later, with this being the last of her screen roles to be released during her lifetime (her actual last screen appearance was in ''Off the Rails'', which was still sat on TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment at the time of her death).
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* HarsherInHindsight: The end of the film has John Gotti dying after a two-year battle with throat cancer. Kelly Preston, who was married to Creator/JohnTravolta, was diagnosed with breast cancer around the film was released, and died two years later, with this being the last of her screen roles to be released during her lifetime (her actual last screen appearance was in ''Off the Rails'', which was still sat on TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment at the time of her death).
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* CriticalDissonance: The marketing team attempted to trade on this, only for it to [[https://theplaylist.net/moviepass-audience-score-gotti-20180620/ turn out]] that a lot of the positive audience reviews left on Website/RottenTomatoes were AstroTurf.

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* CriticalDissonance: The marketing team attempted to trade on this, only for it to [[https://theplaylist.net/moviepass-audience-score-gotti-20180620/ turn out]] that a lot of the positive audience reviews left on Website/RottenTomatoes were AstroTurf.due to [[AstroTurf astroturfing]].
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* CriticalDissonance: The marketing team attempted to trade on this, only for it to [[https://theplaylist.net/moviepass-audience-score-gotti-20180620/ turn out]] that a lot of the positive audience reviews left on Website/RottenTomatoes were AstroTurf.
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** Travolta portrays Gotti with makeup to make him appear older. Travolta at the time of filming was 2 years older than John Gotti was when he died.
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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all. Drink every time you see one that appeared in an older and better movie, and take a double shot every time that movie was ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all. Drink every time you see one that appeared in an older and better movie, and take a double shot every time that movie was ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.''Film/GoodFellas''.
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* MemeticMutation: After the film's abject failure critically and commercially and subsequent notorious DearNegativeReader campaign accusing critics of "putting out the hit", the film picked up an ironic following online where it's jokingly treated as the greatest film of all time.

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* MemeticMutation: After the film's abject critical and commercial failure critically and commercially and subsequent notorious DearNegativeReader campaign accusing critics of "putting out the hit", the film picked up an ironic following online where it's jokingly treated as the greatest film of all time.
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* MemeticMutation: After the film's abject failure critically and commercially and subsequent notorious DearNegativeReader campaign accusing critics of "putting out the hit", the film picked up an ironic following online where it's jokingly treated as the greatest film of all time.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.lot.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all. Drink every time you see one that appeared an older and better movie, and take a double shot every time that movie was ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all. Drink every time you see one that appeared in an older and better movie, and take a double shot every time that movie was ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.
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* DesignatedHero: Bizarrely, the filmmakers' sympathies seem to be entirely with Gotti, even though he's still a ruthless mafia don who murders, bribes, or threatens anyone who opposes him, and treats the government as the bad guys because they tried to prosecute him...for crimes [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality of which he was entirely guilty]], a fact which the movie does very little to hide.

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* DesignatedHero: Bizarrely, the filmmakers' sympathies seem to be entirely with Gotti, even though he's still a ruthless mafia don who murders, bribes, or threatens anyone who opposes him, and treats the government as the bad guys because they tried to prosecute him... for crimes [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality of which he was entirely guilty]], a fact which that the movie does very little to hide.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse peo]][[LoonyFan ple]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse peo]][[LoonyFan ple]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.
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* DesignatedHero: Bizarrely, the filmmakers' sympathies seem to be entirely with Gotti, even though he's still a ruthless mafia don who murders, bribes, or threatens anyone who opposes him, and treats the government as the bad guys because they tried to prosecute him...for crimes [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality of which he was entirely guilty]], a fact which the movie does very little to hide?

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* DesignatedHero: Bizarrely, the filmmakers' sympathies seem to be entirely with Gotti, even though he's still a ruthless mafia don who murders, bribes, or threatens anyone who opposes him, and treats the government as the bad guys because they tried to prosecute him...for crimes [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality of which he was entirely guilty]], a fact which the movie does very little to hide?hide.
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** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's profanity, for that matter.

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** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's abundant profanity, for that matter.matter, with Gotti's bizarre, almost nonsensical "park a bus up your ass" line not far behind it.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all. Drink every time you see one that appeared an older and better movie, and take a double shot every time that movie was ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.
* DesignatedHero: Bizarrely, the filmmakers' sympathies seem to be entirely with Gotti, even though he's still a ruthless mafia don who murders, bribes, or threatens anyone who opposes him, and treats the government as the bad guys because they tried to prosecute him...for crimes [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality of which he was entirely guilty]], a fact which the movie does very little to hide?



** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool.

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** John Gotti using "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool. Basically all the movie's profanity, for that matter.
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** John Gotti using motherfuck '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool.

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** John Gotti using motherfuck "motherfuck" '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool.

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* {{Narm}}: The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amount to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.

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The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amount to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.else.
** John Gotti using motherfuck '''as a verb''' in his dialogue, seemingly only to try and sound cool.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangsters Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster [[NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster Neighborhood-Friendly Gangster]] who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Creator/JohnTravolta put some serious effort into portraying John Gotti and is the only one who appeared to be taking the film seriously at all.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Creator/JohnTravolta put some serious effort into portraying John Gotti and is the only one who appeared to be taking the film seriously at all.all.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: A lot of the movie seems to be based on the idea that John Gotti is a NeighborhoodFriendlyGangster who was unfairly jailed by The Man, except that as far as the audience can tell, Gotti is entirely guilty of the charges against him, and is shown casually murdering people on a pretty regular basis. This overlaps with UnderminedByReality, as the actual John Gotti basically escaped his charges less through covering his tracks or being beloved by the community, and more through threatening and bribing witnesses a lot.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse people]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse people]] peo]][[LoonyFan ple]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: John Travolta put some serious effort into portraying John Gotti and is the only one who appeared to be taking the film seriously at all.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: John Travolta Creator/JohnTravolta put some serious effort into portraying John Gotti and is the only one who appeared to be taking the film seriously at all.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse people]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse people]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.go.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: John Travolta put some serious effort into portraying John Gotti and is the only one who appeared to be taking the film seriously at all.
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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all,.

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* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all,.all.
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* {{Narm}}: The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amounts to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.

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* {{Narm}}: The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amounts amount to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.
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* BileFascination: The film's infamous [[MedalOfDishonor 0% rating]] on Website/RottenTomatoes certainly warrants this.
* ClicheStorm: The film has been criticized for showcasing many of the clichés of mob movies without doing anything new at all,.
* {{Narm}}: The film's attempts to age John Gotti Jr. up amounts to... simply giving him a pair of glasses and nothing else.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The film would have already gone down in infamy as a member of the [[MedalOfDishonor "0% on Rotten Tomatoes"]] club, but then the crew made it even worse with their bizarre claims that the savage reviews were actually due to a conspiracy among the critic elite and even rebranding it as "the movie critics don't want you to see", all while never giving the slightest explanation of what the point of such a conspiracy would be, particularly as the film ''[[NotScreenedForCritics wasn't screened in advance for critics]]''. When you actually make the "Disney is bribing critics to kill non-[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] comic book films" [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse people]] seem ''sensible'' by comparison, no one is ever going to let it go.

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