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* IKnewIt: Fans speculated a lot about Source Music and [=BigHit=]'s connections way before the acquisition. The [=CEO=]s are [[https://twitter.com/hitmanb/status/879007921446637568 great friends]], co-managed a group together in the past, and the companies openly supported each other on many occasions. There was also a theory that Music/{{BTS}}, GFRIEND and Music/{{Mamamoo}} always released a new album in order and never promoted them at the same time, fans speculated that it was an alliance between small labels.
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* FanNickname: Some notable examples are Yennie, doll-rin or anything ending with ''-rin'' for Yerin and Omuji or Thumbelina for Umji.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet for many as their achievements and own work started to be
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet for many as their achievements and own work started to be dismissed from then on.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet for many as their achievements and own work started to be dismissed from then on.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well-loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate[[note]]All groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason.[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle Western audiences]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from KPop and JPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to the genre. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just the easiest target.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well-loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate[[note]]All groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason.[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle Western audiences]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from KPop and JPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to the genre. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just the easiest target.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet for many as their achievements and own work started to be dismissed from then on.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well-loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate[[note]]All groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason.[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle Western audiences]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from KPop and JPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to the genre. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just the easiest target.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well-loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate[[note]]All groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason.[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle Western audiences]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from KPop and JPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to the genre. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just the easiest target.
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** When under the same company as Music/{{TXT}}, fans expected interactions and since then have a good relationship. Helped by Soobin posting "Summer Rain" as song recommendation on their Weverse and [[https://youtu.be/USQpGObIN5k?t=15 Umji participating of a radio show]] with Taehyun and Huening Kai where they endearing gushed about her.
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** When under the same company as Music/{{TXT}}, fans expected interactions and since then have a good relationship. Helped by Soobin posting "Summer Rain" as song recommendation on their Weverse and [[https://youtu.be/USQpGObIN5k?t=15 Umji participating of a radio show]] with Taehyun and Huening Kai where they endearing endearingly gushed about her.
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* ArchivePanic: They have many variety shows appearances and seven reality shows before they established their very own and on-going "Memoria" as their fixed show. There are at least five years of content to catch up after all.
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* ArchivePanic: They have many variety shows appearances [[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfFxiWxtplgZ19_Lvmom5FF1W9yh3H4fO2iu2giSP1s/edit#gid=840257829 TV and radio show appearances]] and seven reality shows before they established their very own and on-going "Memoria" as their fixed show. show, almost twenty official music videos, over a hundred songs, [[https://gfriendunited.com/performances/ many live performances]] and much more. There are at least five six years of content to catch up after all.
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** MAMA invited them to their award show just one time, that was their peak in 2016. Even then, they had to share their stage with another group.
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** Internationally, and media outlets didn't help, it's believed that Eunha was a [=BigHit=] Entertainement trainee, but there isn't any proof of that. Only Sinb was confirmed since another [=BigHit=] trainee mentioned her as being known for her dancing skills during their training period.
** Another misconception was created when they shared a funny story about going to the bathroom of a building near Source Music, they installed a lock just because the girls kept using it. People assumed it was [=BigHit=] Entertaiment, but it was the Cosmopolitan building. Some of these misconceptions come from how close the companies used to operate even before the merger, Source Music used to move to [=BigHit=]'s old buildings and their debut EP was even recorded there (as it can be seen in the album credits).
** Another misconception was created when they shared a funny story about going to the bathroom of a building near Source Music, they installed a lock just because the girls kept using it. People assumed it was [=BigHit=] Entertaiment, but it was the Cosmopolitan building. Some of these misconceptions come from how close the companies used to operate even before the merger, Source Music used to move to [=BigHit=]'s old buildings and their debut EP was even recorded there (as it can be seen in the album credits).
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** Internationally, and media outlets didn't help, it's believed that Eunha was a [=BigHit=] Entertainement Entertainment trainee, but there isn't any proof of that. Only Sinb was confirmed since another [=BigHit=] trainee mentioned her as being known for her dancing skills during their training period.
period.
** Another misconception was created when they shared a funny story about going to the bathroom of a building near Source Music, they installed a lock just because the girls kept using it. People assumed it was [=BigHit=]Entertaiment, Entertainment, but it was the Cosmopolitan building. Some of these misconceptions come from how close the companies used to operate even before the merger, Source Music used to move to [=BigHit=]'s old buildings and their debut EP was even recorded there (as it can be seen in the album credits).
** Another misconception was created when they shared a funny story about going to the bathroom of a building near Source Music, they installed a lock just because the girls kept using it. People assumed it was [=BigHit=]
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet. The fans accepted well, but the group's achievements slowly started to be dismissed. Their [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=pQlXZgcUQyI "Grammy Museum Mini Masterclass"]] interview became a hot topic in the KPop community, because they were supposedly undeserving of that when there are other more popular groups, erasing the fact that it's a small segment where any artist can participate, GFRIEND themselves being one of the most famous guests there, behind only {{Music/BTS}}.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate [[note]](all groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason)[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle international side]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from old KPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to KPop. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just an easy target.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a well loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate [[note]](all groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason)[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle international side]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from old KPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to KPop. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just an easy target.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet. The fans accepted well, but the group's bittersweet for many as their achievements slowly and own work started to be dismissed. Their [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=pQlXZgcUQyI "Grammy Museum Mini Masterclass"]] interview became a hot topic in the KPop community, because they were supposedly undeserving of that when there are other more popular groups, erasing the fact that it's a small segment where any artist can participate, GFRIEND themselves being one of the most famous guests there, behind only {{Music/BTS}}.
dismissed from then on.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't awell loved well-loved group in the KPop community, being ostracized and sometimes going as far as receiving disproportionate hate [[note]](all hate[[note]]All groups receive hate, especially girl groups, but the hate directed towards them isn't proportional to their fame nor has a special reason)[[/note]] reason.[[/note]] in less regulated social medias. So, it's a small fandom that collected a lot of bad blood over the years.
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they makeit]].
it]].
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingleinternational side]], Western audiences]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from old KPop, KPop and JPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to KPop. the genre. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just an easy the easiest target.
* FandomRivalry: Curiously, GFRIEND isn't a
** A guess could be because the group is on a threshold, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make
** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle
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** The fandom has a good relationship with Music/{{Seventeen}} and Astro's fanbases, as the girls are close to these groups and have showed it publicly. Helped by Music/{{Seventeen}}'s Seungkwan being an unapologetic fan and Sinb and Astro's Moonbin being ChildhoodFriends.
** Now under the same company as Music/{{TXT}}, fans expected interactions and since then have a good relationship. Helped by Soobin posting "Summer Rain" as song recommendation on their Weverse.
** Now under the same company as Music/{{TXT}}, fans expected interactions and since then have a good relationship. Helped by Soobin posting "Summer Rain" as song recommendation on their Weverse.
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** The fandom has a good relationship with Music/{{Seventeen}} and Astro's fanbases, as the girls are close to these groups and have showed it publicly. Helped by Music/{{Seventeen}}'s Seungkwan being an unapologetic fan and Sinb and Astro's Moonbin being ChildhoodFriends.
ChildhoodFriends. Their group of friends is called "98-line squad" (Moonbin, Seungkwan, Ungjae, Umji, Sinb and Suji).
**Now When under the same company as Music/{{TXT}}, fans expected interactions and since then have a good relationship. Helped by Soobin posting "Summer Rain" as song recommendation on their Weverse.Weverse and [[https://youtu.be/USQpGObIN5k?t=15 Umji participating of a radio show]] with Taehyun and Huening Kai where they endearing gushed about her.
**
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* HarsherInHindsight: The group received a lot of hate in their debut, good part of it was directly to the youngest member Umji, that during "Rough" promotions even started to hide her face behind her hair. Something similar happened to Yerin's crying during their first music show win, she was criticized because it looked "fake", making her trying to not cry in future occasions. When the members talk about the past, they always have a wistful tone even if it was their most successful eras.
** "Stairs in the North" is a song that [[https://eternalfloret.tumblr.com/lyrictrans/sitn acknowledges it]]. The stairs they climbed breathlessly before (an "instant" fame), now even if they aren't at the top anymore, they can finally enjoy the climb back at their own pace.
** The falling accident that went viral[[note]]They performed in a bug-infested, wet and slippery stage. The group was praised for their professionalism, but the unsafe stage that got them physically hurt and its safety issue is never addressed.[[/note]] is a sensitive topic that keep being brought up whenever they go. The group established themselves as one of the most known girl groups, which makes it looks purposely mean. The girls talked about being uncomfortable, cried while remembering it in broadcasts... To worsen the situation, in a [[https://youtu.be/nAjS-qnItF0?t=185 2020 interview]], Yuju revealed that some people even asked her if they faked it.
---> '''Yuju (2017)''': The falling itself isn't really painful. My thought is that getting up was definitely the right thing to do. When people compliment me for that, I wonder if I even deserve that praise anymore. I try to never forget my attitude from that day. It's an unforgettable stage.[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]
** "Stairs in the North" is a song that [[https://eternalfloret.tumblr.com/lyrictrans/sitn acknowledges it]]. The stairs they climbed breathlessly before (an "instant" fame), now even if they aren't at the top anymore, they can finally enjoy the climb back at their own pace.
** The falling accident that went viral[[note]]They performed in a bug-infested, wet and slippery stage. The group was praised for their professionalism, but the unsafe stage that got them physically hurt and its safety issue is never addressed.[[/note]] is a sensitive topic that keep being brought up whenever they go. The group established themselves as one of the most known girl groups, which makes it looks purposely mean. The girls talked about being uncomfortable, cried while remembering it in broadcasts... To worsen the situation, in a [[https://youtu.be/nAjS-qnItF0?t=185 2020 interview]], Yuju revealed that some people even asked her if they faked it.
---> '''Yuju (2017)''': The falling itself isn't really painful. My thought is that getting up was definitely the right thing to do. When people compliment me for that, I wonder if I even deserve that praise anymore. I try to never forget my attitude from that day. It's an unforgettable stage.[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** The group received a lot of hate in their debut, good part of it was directly to the youngest member Umji, that during "Rough" promotions even started to hide her face behind her hair. Something similar happened to Yerin's crying during their first music show win, she was criticized because it looked "fake", making her trying to not cry in future occasions. When the members talk about the past, they always have a wistful tone even if it was their most successfuleras.
**eras.
*** "Stairs in the North" is a song that [[https://eternalfloret.tumblr.com/lyrictrans/sitn acknowledges it]]. The stairs is an analogy that theyclimbed breathlessly before (an "instant" climbed to the top (when their first comeback's success rocketed them to stardom and fame), and now even if they aren't at the top anymore, anymore (they stepped down), they can finally enjoy the climb back at their own pace.
** *** The falling accident that went viral[[note]]They performed in a bug-infested, wet and slippery stage. The group was praised for their professionalism, but the unsafe stage that got them physically hurt and its safety issue is never addressed.[[/note]] is a sensitive topic that keep being brought up whenever they go. The group established themselves as one of the most known girl groups, which makes it looks purposely mean. The girls talked about being uncomfortable, cried while remembering it in broadcasts... To worsen the situation, in a [[https://youtu.be/nAjS-qnItF0?t=185 2020 interview]], Yuju revealed that some people even asked her if they faked it.
---> ----> '''Yuju (2017)''': (2017)'''[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]: The falling itself isn't really painful. My thought is that getting up was definitely the right thing to do. When people compliment me for that, I wonder if I even deserve that praise anymore. I try to never forget my attitude from that day. It's an unforgettable stage.[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]stage.
** Many things end up suffering of a CerebusRetcon post disbandment. During their very last performance (that the fans didn't know it would be the last), Umji said [[https://youtu.be/i6KIZBjY2Rg?t=488 "GFRIEND will always be here for you"]]. Yuju's teary eyes [[https://youtu.be/M5ZoGGXrS6I?t=304 during her very last activity]] as GFRIEND's Yuju. Sowon saying [[https://youtu.be/BUN72hwDyp4?t=882 "The series is over, but GFRIEND is not. Stay tuned!"]] and many others.
** The group received a lot of hate in their debut, good part of it was directly to the youngest member Umji, that during "Rough" promotions even started to hide her face behind her hair. Something similar happened to Yerin's crying during their first music show win, she was criticized because it looked "fake", making her trying to not cry in future occasions. When the members talk about the past, they always have a wistful tone even if it was their most successful
**
*** "Stairs in the North" is a song that [[https://eternalfloret.tumblr.com/lyrictrans/sitn acknowledges it]]. The stairs is an analogy that they
** Many things end up suffering of a CerebusRetcon post disbandment. During their very last performance (that the fans didn't know it would be the last), Umji said [[https://youtu.be/i6KIZBjY2Rg?t=488 "GFRIEND will always be here for you"]]. Yuju's teary eyes [[https://youtu.be/M5ZoGGXrS6I?t=304 during her very last activity]] as GFRIEND's Yuju. Sowon saying [[https://youtu.be/BUN72hwDyp4?t=882 "The series is over, but GFRIEND is not. Stay tuned!"]] and many others.
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* NarmCharm: Their early content regarding its low budget. Especially "Glass Bead" and "Me Gustas Tu" music videos that look like school projects, but still very loved regardless of that. It was part of their journey to stardom and still a wholesome display of friendship between girls during their high school years.
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The photos build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* ShockingMoments: Sinb dancing in front of a burning tree in "Apple" and Yuju pole dancing in "Mago" even staying on top of a huge disco ball were big jaw dropping moments of 2020.
* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse that featured her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm on the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done. The company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The photos build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* ShockingMoments: Sinb dancing in front of a burning tree in "Apple" and Yuju pole dancing in "Mago" even staying on top of a huge disco ball were big jaw dropping moments of 2020.
* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse that featured her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm on the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done. The company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Sinb dancing in front of a burning tree in "Apple" and Yuju pole dancing in "Mago" even staying on top of a huge disco ball were big jaw dropping moments of 2020.
* NarmCharm: Their early content regarding itslow budget. Especially low-budget, especially the styling. "Glass Bead" and "Me Gustas Tu" music videos that specifically are said to look like school projects, but still very loved regardless of that. It was part of their journey to stardom and still a wholesome display of friendship between girls during their high school years.
*NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
** The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The photos build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* ShockingMoments: Sinb dancing in front of a burning tree in ** Some "Apple" stages used symbols like a reversed pentacle, fire ([[https://youtu.be/bz4OqxETF6k?t=124 yes, fire]]), an eerie scenario transformation with OminousVisualGlitch and Yuju pole dancing in "Mago" others.
* ShockingMoments:
** Their disbandment could be considered that since evenstaying on non fans and journalists were caught by surprise. The contract being discussed wasn't a known information as it was still far away from their debut date and the schedule was going normally until the information about them leaving the company leaked, and the company cleared it.
** The way their company treated their disbandment so unceremoniously. On top of that they had ahuge disco ball series of issues with the refunds. First, they wanted to do it with in-app cash, after being called out and ask fans to fill a form, the personal data of some users was leaked. After trying to solve discretely, journalists picked up one more time and they finally apologized formally. To this day many couldn't find a way to get refunds due bank and currency issues and just gave up. Fans weren't expecting such an insensitive and stingy attitude from the company.
*** Fans also became very wary with HYBE due the acquisition being the newer change in the big picture and easier to blame. It didn't help that they never acknowledged the situation with the group leaving or the refunds. This way, withdrawing from any responsibility after fans werebig jaw dropping moments getting used to the idea of 2020.
a "HYBE family" being pushed (some Korean fans had already booked tickets to the exhibition from the HYBE Insight Museum when the news broke out).
* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse that featured her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm on the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage wasdone. The done and the company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later.apology]]. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
* NarmCharm: Their early content regarding its
*
** The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The photos build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* ShockingMoments:
** Their disbandment could be considered that since even
** The way their company treated their disbandment so unceremoniously. On top of that they had a
*** Fans also became very wary with HYBE due the acquisition being the newer change in the big picture and easier to blame. It didn't help that they never acknowledged the situation with the group leaving or the refunds. This way, withdrawing from any responsibility after fans were
* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse that featured her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm on the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was
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** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle international side]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[FemininityIsBad often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from old KPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to KPop. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just an easy target.
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** Other guess, especially for the [[AmericansHateTingle international side]], could be that they just don't like the songs and concept ([[FemininityIsBad ([[RealWomenDontWearDresses often diminished as girly]]), the bright songs are reminiscent of a nostalgia from old KPop, not really what's trending; and the sober songs are melancholic, not really what people are searching for when they listen to KPop. Obviously, this does not explain why they are designated as punching bags, perhaps they were just an easy target.
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* SignatureStyle: Strings, high notes, ad-libs, nostalgic feeling, knife-like choreography, dance breaks and a guitar solo or orchestral instruments.
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* AffectionateNickname: The names ''yeochin'' or ''yeochinnies'', derived from their Korean name ''yeojachingu'' — a female friend.
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** "Rough" was the most downloaded girl group song from 2016 on Gaon, yet it didn't win any song of the year award.
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** "Rough" was the most downloaded girl group song from 2016 on Gaon, yet it didn't win any song of the year award.
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** The most infamous one in the fandom was at 2019 Seoul Music Awards (one of the five main awards from South Korea). The group had digital points and voting numbers backing them up, but still didn't win a Bonsang. Fans then made a spreadsheet and tried to get a clarification, but nothing happened. In 2020, SMA went as far as deleting half of the in-app votes with a questionable justification and breaking any remaining motivation from the fandom.
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** The most infamous one in the fandom was at 2019 Seoul Music Awards (one of the five main awards from South Korea). The group had digital points and voting numbers backing them up, but still didn't win a Bonsang. Fans then made a spreadsheet and tried to get a clarification, but nothing happened. In 2020, 2021, SMA went as far as deleting half of the in-app votes with a questionable justification and breaking any remaining motivation from the fandom.
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** A guess could be because the group is in a limiar, they aren't from a big company and they're too famous to be grouped with mid-tier groups. Fandoms from established companies [[BrandNamesAreBetter don't accept well rising groups]] and smaller fandoms cheer for [[{{Hipster}} the underdogs until they make it]].
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---> '''Yuju, 2017''': The falling itself isn't really painful. My thought is that getting up was definitely the right thing to do. When people compliment me for that, I wonder if I even deserve that praise anymore. I try to never forget my attitude from that day. It's an unforgettable stage.[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]
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---> '''Yuju, 2017''': '''Yuju (2017)''': The falling itself isn't really painful. My thought is that getting up was definitely the right thing to do. When people compliment me for that, I wonder if I even deserve that praise anymore. I try to never forget my attitude from that day. It's an unforgettable stage.[[https://www.gfsquad.com/forums/topic/2076-translation-interview-md-interview-gfriend-reveals-fingertip-falling_incident-twice-q-a/ ¹]]
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* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse featuring her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm in the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done and the company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
** The international side had strong opinions based on information being spread and added continuously in social medias[[note]]A past live from the group resurfaced has one of the members using the nickname Kitler, a combination of kitten + hitler (a term popular back then because of a cat meme), reinforcing the sentiment against the group[[/note]] and some misinformation even left people believing the apology was a lie[[note]]A screenshot made people believe she deleted on Instagram because of fans being jealous of the mannequin, giving a literal interpretation and missing the joke / banter happening between fan-artist on Weverse. When she deleted on Instagram, there was not a mention of the nazi memorabilia then. She realized and deleted the photos on Weverse a time after that and disappeared until the apology, which clearly talks about the latest deletion.[[/note]]. After the statement, people were still upset and say that it is not good enough and does not adequately address the issue.
*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, [=GFriend=] is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. Cue some fans attacking the Center in the replies, with some even accusing them of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
** However, the Korean side believed it was a genuine accident and that Sowon, apologizing about the issue, could just move on. Some even used the situation to share their rage about people overseas not treating the Rising Sun Flag with the same importance.
** The international side had strong opinions based on information being spread and added continuously in social medias[[note]]A past live from the group resurfaced has one of the members using the nickname Kitler, a combination of kitten + hitler (a term popular back then because of a cat meme), reinforcing the sentiment against the group[[/note]] and some misinformation even left people believing the apology was a lie[[note]]A screenshot made people believe she deleted on Instagram because of fans being jealous of the mannequin, giving a literal interpretation and missing the joke / banter happening between fan-artist on Weverse. When she deleted on Instagram, there was not a mention of the nazi memorabilia then. She realized and deleted the photos on Weverse a time after that and disappeared until the apology, which clearly talks about the latest deletion.[[/note]]. After the statement, people were still upset and say that it is not good enough and does not adequately address the issue.
*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, [=GFriend=] is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. Cue some fans attacking the Center in the replies, with some even accusing them of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
** However, the Korean side believed it was a genuine accident and that Sowon, apologizing about the issue, could just move on. Some even used the situation to share their rage about people overseas not treating the Rising Sun Flag with the same importance.
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* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse featuring that featured her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm in on the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done and the done. The company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
** The group received strong backlash from the internationalside had strong opinions based on information side. The influx of misinformation being spread and added continuously in on social medias[[note]]A past live from the group resurfaced has one of the members using the nickname Kitler, a combination of kitten + hitler (a term popular back then because of a cat meme), reinforcing the sentiment against the group[[/note]] and some misinformation even left people believing the apology was a lie[[note]]A screenshot made people believe she deleted on Instagram because of fans being jealous of the mannequin, giving a literal interpretation and missing the joke / banter happening between fan-artist on Weverse. When she deleted on Instagram, there was not a mention of the nazi memorabilia then. She realized and deleted the photos on Weverse a time after that and disappeared until the apology, which clearly talks about the latest deletion.[[/note]]. media sites didn't help. After the statement, people were still upset and say that it is the apology was not good enough and does did not adequately address the issue.
*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, [=GFriend=] is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. Cue some fans attacking the Center in the replies, with some even accusing them of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
** However, the Korean side believed it was a genuine accident and that Sowon, apologizing who had apologized about the issue, could just move on. Some even used the situation to share their rage about people overseas not treating the Rising Sun Flag flag imagery with the same importance.
** The group received strong backlash from the international
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend [=GFriend=] is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. Cue some fans attacking the center Center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center them of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that Music/BTS[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. [[FanDumb Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]".]] Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that Music/BTS[[note]]the {{Music/BTS}}[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. [[FanDumb Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]".]] instead]". Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that Music/BTS[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. [[FanDumb Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]".]] Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [https://twitter.[[https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that Music/BTS[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. [[FanDumb Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]".]] Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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*** For example, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal_Center Simon Wiesenthal Center]] [https://twitter.com/simonwiesenthal/status/1357023958378323969 tweeted]] about the issue, but also brought up the fact that Music/BTS[[note]]the Center claimed the two were under the same company when this is not exactly true, GFriend is under Source Music, which is owned by Big Hit[[/note]] had had controversies of their own in the past[[note]]see [[https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-criticised-by-jewish-human-rights-group-after-wearing-nazi-style-hats-in-photoshoot-2401403 here]] and [[https://seoulbeats.com/2015/01/bts-holocaust-memorial-im-not-letting-go/ here]], it's worth noting that their company has apologized for this and it was several years ago, so we'll leave it at that[[/note]]. [[FanDumb Cue some fans attacking the center in the replies, with some even accusing the Center of becoming "Nazis" themselves and saying that they should "get over it and worry about [their own funerals instead]".]] Some other fans also tried to report BBC World's Twitter account for [[https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1356347193440014341 tweeting about the issue]] and writing an article on it.
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** In January of 2021, [[https://heavy.com/entertainment/sowon-gfriend-nazi-photos-instagram/ Sowon uploaded some photos to Instagram featuring her cuddling and posing with a mannequin wearing a Nazi uniform]], causing a firestorm in the fandom. The photos were removed[[note]]with Sowon supposedly saying that it was because she didn't want to make her male fans jealous by posing with a man (even if he was plastic)[[/note]], but the damage was done. Further controversy arose when [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpFW9XYAIsWwY?format=png&name=small fans unearthed an old stream in 2016]] [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpj4QXIAgpoAt?format=png&name=small which showed that]] [=SinB=] had Sowon's number saved to her phone under the name "Kitler"[[note]]which fans took to be referring to '''Ki'''m Sojung (Sowon's real name) and Hi'''tler'''[[/note]], and uploaded an old photo that appeared to be showing Sowon doing a Nazi salute, although these were clarified as Sowon simply raising her hand and having the image manipulated, while the "Kitler" name was allegedly in reference to a "Kitty Kat" (although this does not explain Sowon saying proudly that "I have an evil character beside it"). [[https://www.koreaboo.com/news/gfriend-sowon-nazi-statue-photos/ The fans are split]] - some fans believe it was a complete accident and that Sowon should not be judged for it, while others are considerably more upset and say that [[https://www.asianjunkie.com/2021/02/01/source-music-apologizes-for-gfriends-sowons-nazi-mannequin-controversy/ their company's apology is not good enough]] and does not adequately address the issue.
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* EpilepticTrees: The continuous storyline didn't have story books containing the lore until 2020, which led fans to theorize from the smallest details to give it a meaning. You can peek their [[{{WMG/GFRIEND}} Wild Mass Guessing]] page for this matter.
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* EpilepticTrees: The continuous storyline didn't have story books containing the lore until 2020, which led fans to theorize from the smallest details to give it a meaning. You can peek at their [[{{WMG/GFRIEND}} Wild Mass Guessing]] page for this matter.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet. The fans accepted well, but the group's achievements slowly started to be dismissed. Their [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=pQlXZgcUQyI "Grammys Mini Masterclass"]] interview became a hot topic in the KPop community, because they were supposedly undeserving of that when there are other more popular groups, erasing the fact that it's a small segment where any artist can participate, GFRIEND themselves being one of the most famous guests there, behind only {{Music/BTS}}.
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** The group reached stardom under an unknown company, making it something that fans are very proud of. That's why being acquired by a bigger company could be bittersweet. The fans accepted well, but the group's achievements slowly started to be dismissed. Their [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=pQlXZgcUQyI "Grammys "Grammy Museum Mini Masterclass"]] interview became a hot topic in the KPop community, because they were supposedly undeserving of that when there are other more popular groups, erasing the fact that it's a small segment where any artist can participate, GFRIEND themselves being one of the most famous guests there, behind only {{Music/BTS}}.
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* NarmCharm: Their early content regarding its low budget. Especially "Glass Bead" and "Me Gustas Tu" music videos that look like school projects, but still very loved regardless of that, since it was part of their journey to stardom and still a wholesome display of friendship between girls during their high school years.
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The images build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The images build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
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* NarmCharm: Their early content regarding its low budget. Especially "Glass Bead" and "Me Gustas Tu" music videos that look like school projects, but still very loved regardless of that, since it that. It was part of their journey to stardom and still a wholesome display of friendship between girls during their high school years.
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). Theimages photos build the imagery for some of the songs from the respective albums like "Eye of the Storm", "Room of Mirrors" and "Labyrinth".
* NightmareFuel: The tone for the concept photos "Broken Room" and "Tilted" from Song of the Sirens (2020) are very unsettling in different ways as well as "Twisted" from Labyrinth (2020). The
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* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.
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* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: They often use {{Foreshadowing}} in their performances anticipating what comes next, like their 2019 SBS Gayo stage called ''Une Journée Au Jardin'' hinting at Labyrinth (2020). An example of their long-term thinking is Yerin's birthday taken in consideration for the date in her cassette tape from "Time for the Moon Night", later it was revealed that the girls were ChildhoodFriends in their fictional story.story.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse featuring her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm in the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done and the company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
** The international side had strong opinions based on information being spread and added continuously in social medias[[note]]A past live from the group resurfaced has one of the members using the nickname Kitler, a combination of kitten + hitler (a term popular back then because of a cat meme), reinforcing the sentiment against the group[[/note]] and some misinformation even left people believing the apology was a lie[[note]]A screenshot made people believe she deleted on Instagram because of fans being jealous of the mannequin, giving a literal interpretation and missing the joke / banter happening between fan-artist on Weverse. When she deleted on Instagram, there was not a mention of the nazi memorabilia then. She realized and deleted the photos on Weverse a time after that and disappeared until the apology, which clearly talks about the latest deletion.[[/note]]. After the statement, people were still upset and say that it is not good enough and does not adequately address the issue.
** However, the Korean side believed it was a genuine accident and that Sowon, apologizing about the issue, could just move on. Some even used the situation to share their rage about people overseas not treating the Rising Sun Flag with the same importance.
* ValuesDissonance: In January of 2021, Sowon uploaded some photos on Instagram and Weverse featuring her posing with a mannequin from Cafe Zino, which is a popular place in South Korea and the place where they filmed a VCR for their Comeback Show. Later fans noticed the mannequin was wearing a Nazi uniform, causing a firestorm in the internet. She deleted the photos, but the damage was done and the company quickly released [[https://www.soompi.com/article/1451868wpp/source-music-issues-apology-after-gfriends-sowons-controversy-over-photos an apology]] a day later. It wasn't well accepted internationally, but Koreans praised that they owned up for the mistake.
** The international side had strong opinions based on information being spread and added continuously in social medias[[note]]A past live from the group resurfaced has one of the members using the nickname Kitler, a combination of kitten + hitler (a term popular back then because of a cat meme), reinforcing the sentiment against the group[[/note]] and some misinformation even left people believing the apology was a lie[[note]]A screenshot made people believe she deleted on Instagram because of fans being jealous of the mannequin, giving a literal interpretation and missing the joke / banter happening between fan-artist on Weverse. When she deleted on Instagram, there was not a mention of the nazi memorabilia then. She realized and deleted the photos on Weverse a time after that and disappeared until the apology, which clearly talks about the latest deletion.[[/note]]. After the statement, people were still upset and say that it is not good enough and does not adequately address the issue.
** However, the Korean side believed it was a genuine accident and that Sowon, apologizing about the issue, could just move on. Some even used the situation to share their rage about people overseas not treating the Rising Sun Flag with the same importance.
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** In January of 2021, [[https://heavy.com/entertainment/sowon-gfriend-nazi-photos-instagram/ Sowon uploaded some photos to Instagram featuring her cuddling and posing with a mannequin wearing a Nazi uniform]], causing a firestorm in the fandom. The photos were removed[[note]]with Sowon supposedly saying that it was because she didn't want to make her male fans jealous by posing with a man (even if he was plastic)[[/note]], but the damage was done. Further controversy arose when [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpFW9XYAIsWwY?format=png&name=small fans unearthed an old stream in 2016]] [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpj4QXIAgpoAt?format=png&name=small which showed that]] [=SinB=] had Sowon's number saved to her phone under the name "Kitler"[[note]]which fans took to be referring to '''Ki'''m Sojung (Sowon's real name) and Hi'''tler'''[[/note]], and uploaded an old photo that appeared to be showing Sowon doing a Nazi salute, although these were clarified as Sowon simply raising her hand and having the image manipulated, while the "Kitler" name was allegedly in reference to a "Kitty Kat" (although this does not explain Sowon saying proudly that "I have an evil character beside it"). [[https://www.koreaboo.com/news/gfriend-sowon-nazi-statue-photos/ The fans are split]] - Korean fans believe it was a complete accident and that Sowon should not be judged for it, while some international fans are considerably more upset and say that [[https://www.asianjunkie.com/2021/02/01/source-music-apologizes-for-gfriends-sowons-nazi-mannequin-controversy/ their company's apology is not good enough]] and does not adequately address the issue.
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** In January of 2021, [[https://heavy.com/entertainment/sowon-gfriend-nazi-photos-instagram/ Sowon uploaded some photos to Instagram featuring her cuddling and posing with a mannequin wearing a Nazi uniform]], causing a firestorm in the fandom. The photos were removed[[note]]with Sowon supposedly saying that it was because she didn't want to make her male fans jealous by posing with a man (even if he was plastic)[[/note]], but the damage was done. Further controversy arose when [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpFW9XYAIsWwY?format=png&name=small fans unearthed an old stream in 2016]] [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFpj4QXIAgpoAt?format=png&name=small which showed that]] [=SinB=] had Sowon's number saved to her phone under the name "Kitler"[[note]]which fans took to be referring to '''Ki'''m Sojung (Sowon's real name) and Hi'''tler'''[[/note]], and uploaded an old photo that appeared to be showing Sowon doing a Nazi salute, although these were clarified as Sowon simply raising her hand and having the image manipulated, while the "Kitler" name was allegedly in reference to a "Kitty Kat" (although this does not explain Sowon saying proudly that "I have an evil character beside it"). [[https://www.koreaboo.com/news/gfriend-sowon-nazi-statue-photos/ The fans are split]] - Korean some fans believe it was a complete accident and that Sowon should not be judged for it, while some international fans others are considerably more upset and say that [[https://www.asianjunkie.com/2021/02/01/source-music-apologizes-for-gfriends-sowons-nazi-mannequin-controversy/ their company's apology is not good enough]] and does not adequately address the issue.
