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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Music/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had his camera crew ''filming everything he did''.

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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist transparently fake events (like meet-and-greets with Music/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had his camera crew ''filming everything he did''.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was, as some of the workers described, a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck. By then end, Andy King, who has been friends with [=McFarland=] for a long time, seems to hold on, perhaps desperately, to the hope that [=McFarland=] was in way over his head. Almost all of the other interviewees believe, firmly, that [=McFarland=] is a sociopath (and at least one person states it openly). The film seems to agree, especially since most of [=McFarland's=] actions are near-textbook examples of sociopathy.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was, as some of the workers described, a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck. By then the end, Andy King, who has been friends with [=McFarland=] for a long time, seems to hold on, perhaps desperately, to the hope that [=McFarland=] was in way over his head. Almost all of the other interviewees believe, firmly, that [=McFarland=] is a sociopath (and at least one person states it openly). The film seems to agree, especially since most of [=McFarland's=] actions are near-textbook examples of sociopathy.



* JustFollowingOrders: Discussed. Calvin Wells believes (as is argued in ''Fyre Fraud'') that Jerry Media and the other agencies hired to promote Fyre should also be held responsible. Those responsible for the promotion (both the promo shoots and social media campaign) claim they were just doing their jobs and ultimately were mislead about Fyre's ability to actually pull off a festival of this scale. It should be noted that these employees also knew that this event would be a failure and tried to persuade Billy to scale it back or cancel it altogether, but were unsuccessful, and many of them (including the aforementioned Andy King) felt guilty about playing a role in the disaster by misleading people (unintentionally or otherwise).

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* JustFollowingOrders: Discussed. Calvin Wells believes (as is argued in ''Fyre Fraud'') that Jerry Media and the other agencies hired to promote Fyre the festival should also be held responsible. responsible for their part in the mess. Those responsible for the promotion (both the promo shoots and social media campaign) claim they were just doing their jobs and ultimately were mislead misled about Fyre's ability to actually pull off a festival of this scale. It should be noted that these employees also knew that this event would be a failure and tried to persuade Billy to scale it back or cancel it altogether, but were unsuccessful, and many of them (including the aforementioned Andy King) felt guilty about playing a role in the disaster by misleading people (unintentionally or otherwise).
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** It helps that both docs cover different aspects. ''Fyre Fraud'' focuses on the life of Billy, from the creation of Magnesis to him ultimately landing in prison, as well as the question of why Millenials were drawn to scams like his in the first place. ''Fyre'' focuses more on the event itself, how the various people involved could see from the get-go that things would go ''catastrophically'' wrong but were powerless to stop it, and also contains footage shot during both the production of the promo video and of the various meetings leading up to the date of the festival. It should be noted that Jerry Media is portrayed in a much more sympathetic light, saying they were mislead just as much as everyone else.
* JustFollowingOrders: Discussed. Calvin Wells believes (as is argued in ''Fyre Fraud'') that Jerry Media and the other agencies hired to promote Fyre should also be held responsible. Those responsible for the promotion (both the promo shoots and social media campaign) claim they were just doing their jobs and ultimately were mislead about Fyre's ability to actually pull off a festival of this scale. It should be noted that these employees also knew that this event would be a failure and tried to persuade Billy to scale it back or cancel it altogether, but were unsuccessful, and many of them (including the aforementioned Andy King) felt guilty about playing a role in the disaster by misleading people (unintentionally or otherwise).
--> '''Brett Kincade, Director, Matte Projects''': If you get hired to do a BMW commercial and that BMW then has a faulty engine, how the fuck can you possibly know whether or not they're gonna do good on what they said they were gonna do? That's like saying that the sound guy and the DP and the location scout has to do due diligence on whether or not something's actually gonna happen.
--> '''Shiyuan Deng, Product Designer, Fyre''': How could we ask the models to have the kind of awareness of the Fyre Festival that I myself didn't have, being an employee of Fyre Media?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was, as some of the workers described, a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was, as some of the workers described, a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck. By then end, Andy King, who has been friends with [=McFarland=] for a long time, seems to hold on, perhaps desperately, to the hope that [=McFarland=] was in way over his head. Almost all of the other interviewees believe, firmly, that [=McFarland=] is a sociopath (and at least one person states it openly). The film seems to agree, especially since most of [=McFarland's=] actions are near-textbook examples of sociopathy.
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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Music/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had people ''filming everything''.

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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Music/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had people his camera crew ''filming everything''.everything he did''.
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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Creator/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had people ''filming everything''.

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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Creator/TaylorSwift, Music/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had people ''filming everything''.
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** After Billy is released on bail what does he do? Immediately try to run ''another scam'' on the same people he already conned by using their contact details to attempt to sell them fake tickets to events, many of which pure and simply do not exist (like meet-and-greets with Creator/TaylorSwift, who does not do meet-and-greets; tickets to the Met Gala, whose guests are handpicked by Anna Wintour; "sponsor tickets" to Burning Man, which does not have sponsors; etc). And he still had people ''filming everything''.
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** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure, only to get the worst experiences of their lives, and then later being turned into targets of Internet mockery.

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** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all All of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure, only to get the worst experiences of their lives, and then later being turned into targets of Internet mockery.mockery, this is made especially apparent when after the news of Fyre comes out, ''the entire world'' does nothing but mock and berate the attendees, seeing them as nothing as "privileged rich people" (despite some of the attendees not being of the life style) who "got their just desserts" when it was not the case.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some of the Fyre Festival guests. Many viewers have difficulty sympathizing with people who paid upwards of thousands of dollars (or even tens) to attend an exclusive festival in the first place, and consider their misfortune deserved for bringing a shock to their perceived privileged lives. Not helping their case is the commentary of one festival goer who claimed to have sabotaged other tents to keep people away.

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* %%* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some of the Fyre Festival guests. Many viewers have difficulty sympathizing with people who paid upwards of thousands of dollars (or even tens) to attend an exclusive festival in the first place, and consider their misfortune deserved for bringing a shock to their perceived privileged lives. Not helping their case is the commentary of one festival goer who claimed to have sabotaged other tents to keep people away.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Andy King became incredibly popular after the film's release due to his extremely frank discussions about the event's issues even beyond anyone else, including that he was fully prepared to give someone in the Bahamas government a blowjob to get some badly needed water to the site. He even received some offers for his own reality show.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially, [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wrangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and center, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially, [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wrangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival Fyre company was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and center, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.

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* TearJerker: The poor restaurant owner explaining how she had to spend $50,000 from her own savings to pay all the local workers who got screwed over, and the experience was so traumatizing for her she doesn't even like to talk about the Fyre Festival. She's clearly trying so hard not to cry when she explains her ordeal.
** Fortunately, soon after the documentary was released, a [=GoFundMe=] campaign [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46937725 raised more than $77,000 for her]].

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** *** Fortunately, soon after the documentary was released, a [=GoFundMe=] campaign [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46937725 raised more than $77,000 for her]].



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Fyre Festival guests. Many viewers have difficulty sympathizing with people who paid upwards of thousands of dollars (or even tens) to attend an exclusive festival in the first place, and consider their misfortune deserved for bringing a shock to their perceived privileged lives. Not helping their case is the commentary of one festival goer who claimed to have sabotaged other tents to keep people away.
* WhatAnIdiot: Initially, [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Some of the Fyre Festival guests. Many viewers have difficulty sympathizing with people who paid upwards of thousands of dollars (or even tens) to attend an exclusive festival in the first place, and consider their misfortune deserved for bringing a shock to their perceived privileged lives. Not helping their case is the commentary of one festival goer who claimed to have sabotaged other tents to keep people away.
* WhatAnIdiot: Initially, [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle wrangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, center, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.
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** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure, only to get the worst experiences of their lives.

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** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure, only to get the worst experiences of their lives.lives, and then later being turned into targets of Internet mockery.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was as some of the workers described as a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck.
* FriendlyFandoms: Ironically enough, ''Fyre'' shares this with the ''other'' documentary ''Fyre Fraud'' has garnered respect from the other side due to how it goes in depth about the festival's failure despite [[spoiler: the latter having ''Billy himself'' in the documentary]]. There ''is'' a FandomRivalry, but it seems mostly from the film maker's side since ''Film/FyreFraud'' attacked ''Fyre'' due to the involvement of Jerry Media, who were criticized in the aforementioned ''Fyre Fraud''.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was was, as some of the workers described as described, a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck.
* FriendlyFandoms: Ironically enough, ''Fyre'' shares this with the ''other'' Creator/{{Hulu}}'s own documentary ''Fyre Fraud'' has garnered respect from about the other side incident ''Film/FyreFraud'', due to how it goes in depth about the festival's failure despite [[spoiler: the latter having [[spoiler:has ''Billy himself'' in the documentary]]. There ''is'' a FandomRivalry, but it seems mostly from the film maker's filmmakers' side since ''Film/FyreFraud'' attacked ''Fyre'' due to the involvement of Jerry Media, who were criticized in the aforementioned ''Fyre Fraud''.



* WhatAnIdiot: Initially [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.
* TheWoobie: Everyone who was involved with Fyre sans Billy, especially the restaurant owner who had to shill ''her savings'' to accommodate everyone who went to the festival.
** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure only to get the worst experiences of their lives.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially Initially, [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.
* TheWoobie: Everyone who was involved with Fyre sans Billy, Billy and Ja Rule, especially the restaurant owner who had to shill ''her savings'' to accommodate everyone who went to the festival.
** For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure adventure, only to get the worst experiences of their lives.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.


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** Fortunately, soon after the documentary was released, a [=GoFundMe=] campaign [[Fyre Festival: Fund for unpaid caterer hits £60k http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46937725 raised more than $77,000 for her]].

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** Fortunately, soon after the documentary was released, a [=GoFundMe=] campaign [[Fyre Festival: Fund for unpaid caterer hits £60k http://www.[[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46937725 raised more than $77,000 for her]].
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** Fortunately, soon after the documentary was released, a [=GoFundMe=] campaign [[Fyre Festival: Fund for unpaid caterer hits £60k http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46937725 raised more than $77,000 for her]].
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Fyre Festival guests. Many viewers have difficulty sympathizing with people who paid upwards of thousands of dollars (or even tens) to attend an exclusive festival in the first place, and consider their misfortune deserved for bringing a shock to their perceived privileged lives. Not helping their case is the commentary of one festival goer who claimed to have sabotaged other tents to keep people away.



** All of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure only to get the worst experiences of their lives.

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** All For those who don't consider them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, all of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure only to get the worst experiences of their lives.
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* TearJerker: The poor restaurant owner explaining how she had to shill her savings, and the experience was so traumatizing for her she doesn't even like to talk about the Fyre Festival. She's clearly trying so hard not to cry when she explains her ordeal.

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* TearJerker: The poor restaurant owner explaining how she had to shill spend $50,000 from her savings, own savings to pay all the local workers who got screwed over, and the experience was so traumatizing for her she doesn't even like to talk about the Fyre Festival. She's clearly trying so hard not to cry when she explains her ordeal.
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* FriendlyFandoms: Ironically enough, ''Fyre'' shares this with the ''other'' documentary ''Fyre Fraud'' has garnered respect from the other side due to how it goes in depth about the festival's failure despite [[spoiler: the latter having ''Billy himself'' in the documentary]].

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* FriendlyFandoms: Ironically enough, ''Fyre'' shares this with the ''other'' documentary ''Fyre Fraud'' has garnered respect from the other side due to how it goes in depth about the festival's failure despite [[spoiler: the latter having ''Billy himself'' in the documentary]]. There ''is'' a FandomRivalry, but it seems mostly from the film maker's side since ''Film/FyreFraud'' attacked ''Fyre'' due to the involvement of Jerry Media, who were criticized in the aforementioned ''Fyre Fraud''.
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** The staff of Fyre learning about Billy's wire fraud actions, which surprises one worker who mentions being really close to Billy and being genuinely hurt at his backstabbing.
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* Tearjerker: The poor restaurant owner explaining how she had to shill her savings, and the experience was so traumatizing for her she doesn't even like to talk about the Fyre Festival. She's clearly trying so hard not to cry when she explains her ordeal.

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* Tearjerker: The poor restaurant owner explaining how she had to shill her savings, and the experience was so traumatizing for her she doesn't even like to talk about the Fyre Festival. She's clearly trying so hard not to cry when she explains her ordeal.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially McFarland had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The documentary itself plays with this, debating on whether or not Billy himself knew what he was doing out of desperation or if he was as some of the workers described as a pathological [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who lied repeatedly to get a quick buck.
* FriendlyFandoms: Ironically enough, ''Fyre'' shares this with the ''other'' documentary ''Fyre Fraud'' has garnered respect from the other side due to how it goes in depth about the festival's failure despite [[spoiler: the latter having ''Billy himself'' in the documentary]].
* WhatAnIdiot: Initially McFarland [=McFarland=] had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.island.
* TheWoobie: Everyone who was involved with Fyre sans Billy, especially the restaurant owner who had to shill ''her savings'' to accommodate everyone who went to the festival.
** All of the guests who went to Fyre, expecting fun and adventure only to get the worst experiences of their lives.
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WhatAnIdiot: Initially McFarland had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Initially McFarland had actually managed to wangle holding the festival on Norman's Cay, as was advertised. The festival was forbidden from mentioning that the island had anything to do with Pablo Escobar (although the island was actually used by Carlos Lehder). Of course, ''the very first advert'' featured Escobar's name front and centre, and the festival promptly lost the right to use the island.
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