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* AmbiguousDisorder: Astrid Larsson hates touching or being touched by people, is ''intensely'' fixated with Literature/TheLordOfTheRings and archery to the exclusion of all else, and is described as not being able to connect with anyone before the Change except for one or two very close friends. All this in mind, it is very easy to read Astrid as being [[UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum autistic.]]
* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler:When he dies in ''The Given Sacrifice'', there was joy AndThereWasMuchRejoicing from said people]].

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Astrid Larsson hates touching or being touched by people, is ''intensely'' fixated with Literature/TheLordOfTheRings and archery to the exclusion of all else, and is described as not being able to connect with anyone before the Change except for one or two very close friends. All this in mind, it is very easy to read Astrid as being [[UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum autistic.]]
* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] self-sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler:When he dies in ''The Given Sacrifice'', there was joy AndThereWasMuchRejoicing from said people]].people]].
* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Astrid Larsson hates touching or being touched by people, is ''intensely'' fixated with Literature/TheLordOfTheRings and archery to the exclusion of all else and is described as not being able to connect with anyone before the Change except for one or two very close friends. All this in mind, it is very easy to read Astrid as being [[UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum autistic.]]



* JerkassWoobie: Arguably, Sandra Arminger. She is, by her own admission, not a nice person, with murder and blackmail being just a few of her morally-dubious choices. And yet, in the later books she comes across as rather lonely. Though she lived for at least 20 years after Norman's death, she never remarried, and, as image-conscious and politically savvy as she is, it seems unlikely she ever risked her reputation by taking a lover. She is one of the last atheists in her society (though she comes to recognize the validity of religion in her universe, she has a difficult time accepting it in her heart); she cannot admit it publicly, and it separates her, not only from most of her world, but also from her beloved and devout daughter. Among her peers, she is respected (deservedly), but not liked or trusted (also deservedly). She seems all-too-aware that her descendants will have no very clear understanding of how people like her think; indeed, as she's very clever and somewhat alienating, most of the people she knows have no very clear idea of how people like her think. It seems as if she has no real companion after losing Norman.

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* JerkassWoobie: Arguably, Sandra Arminger. She is, by her own admission, not a nice person, with murder and blackmail being just a few of her morally-dubious morally dubious choices. And yet, in the later books she comes across as rather lonely. Though she lived for at least 20 years after Norman's death, she never remarried, and, as image-conscious and politically savvy as she is, it seems unlikely she ever risked her reputation by taking a lover. She is one of the last atheists in her society (though she comes to recognize the validity of religion in her universe, she has a difficult time accepting it in her heart); she cannot admit it publicly, and it separates her, not only from most of her world, but also from her beloved and devout daughter. Among her peers, she is respected (deservedly), but not liked or trusted (also deservedly). She seems all-too-aware that her descendants will have no very clear understanding of how people like her think; indeed, as she's very clever and somewhat alienating, most of the people she knows have no very clear idea of how people like her think. It seems as if she has no real companion after losing Norman.



** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change world would be much more familiar with.

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** Also Also, a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change world would be much more familiar with.
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** Although that being the case, it is odd that Mike, a former Marine himself, mentions nothing about it.

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** Although that being the case, it is odd that Mike, a former Marine himself, mentions nothing about it.it.
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* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler: happily he dies in The Given Sacrifice]]

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* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler: happily [[spoiler:When he dies in The ''The Given Sacrifice]]Sacrifice'', there was joy AndThereWasMuchRejoicing from said people]].
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** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change world would be much more familiar with.

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** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change world would be much more familiar with.with.
** Although that being the case, it is odd that Mike, a former Marine himself, mentions nothing about it.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Astrid Larsson hates touching or being touched by people, is ''intensely'' fixated with Literature/TheLordOfTheRings and archery to the exclusion of all else, and is described as not being able to connect with anyone before the Change except for one or two very close friends. All this in mind, it is very easy to read Astrid as being [[UsefulNotes/AutismSpectrum autistic.]]
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* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: Sandra Arminger oh so much, almost to Lord Vetinari levels..
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** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change United States would be much more familiar with.

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** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change United States world would be much more familiar with.
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* {{Narm}}: The Devil Dogs might be an intimidating gang, but their ''name'' is about as silly as it gets -- a Devil Dog is a kind of chocolate snack cake.

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* {{Narm}}: The Devil Dogs might be an intimidating gang, but their ''name'' is about as silly as it gets -- a Devil Dog is a kind of chocolate snack cake.cake.
** Also a nickname for the US Marines. Which people in the Post-Change United States would be much more familiar with.
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* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: Sandra Arminger oh so much, almost to Lord Vetinari levels..

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* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: Sandra Arminger oh so much, almost to Lord Vetinari levels..levels..
* {{Narm}}: The Devil Dogs might be an intimidating gang, but their ''name'' is about as silly as it gets -- a Devil Dog is a kind of chocolate snack cake.
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Never mind, it's already listed on the main page.


* CoversAlwaysLie: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
** For example, the cover for ''The Golden Princess" shows off a homely redhead found nowhere in in the pages of the volume.
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"Contemptible Cover" refers to a cover that's unjustifiably violent and/or sexual in nature, which the covers of these books really aren't. "Covers Always Lie" is the trope for covers which, like these, are simply inaccurate.


* ContemptibleCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
** For example, The Cover for ''The Golden Princess" shows off a homely redhead found nowhere in in the pages of the volume.

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* ContemptibleCover: CoversAlwaysLie: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
** For example, The Cover the cover for ''The Golden Princess" shows off a homely redhead found nowhere in in the pages of the volume.
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Unnecessary edit. I just wanted to establish that I didn\'t write the original entry — I moved if from the Main Page.


* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He literally has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler: happily he dies in The Given Sacrifice]]

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* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He literally has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler: happily he dies in The Given Sacrifice]]
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* CreatorsPet: Rudi frakking Mackenzie. Almost universally disliked by fans but apart from card carrying villains, [[spoiler: and one solitary romantic rival who conveniently self sacrifices]] no one in universe has anything less than gushing praise for him. He is the best fighter, best general, most handsome, most kind and generally all round best person on the entire Continent. He literally has no flaws and is uniformly above average at everything and excellent at most. Every decision he makes is correct, or at least works out that way no matter how stupid it might have appeared at first. Every friendly character we meet is happy to sacrifice their interests for his [[spoiler: up to and including subordinating whole countries to his High Kingship without visible dissent.]] No wonder he turned a lot of people off the series. [[spoiler: happily he dies in The Given Sacrifice]]
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* ContemptableCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.

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* ContemptableCover: ContemptibleCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
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* ConteptableCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.

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* ConteptableCover: ContemptableCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
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* ConteptableCover: Covers of the series depicting actual characters or scenes from the books, rather than just generic places or people from the milieu, are extremely rare.
** For example, The Cover for ''The Golden Princess" shows off a homely redhead found nowhere in in the pages of the volume.
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* JerkassWoobie: Arguably, Sandra Arminger. She is, by her own admission, not a nice person, with murder and blackmail being just a few of her morally-dubious choices. And yet, in the later books she comes across as rather lonely. Though she lived for at least 20 years after Norman's death, she never remarried, and, as image-conscious and politically savvy as she is, it seems unlikely she ever risked her reputation by taking a lover. She is one of the last atheists in her society (though she comes to recognize the validity of religion in her universe, she has a difficult time accepting it in her heart); she cannot admit it publicly, and it separates her, not only from most of her world, but also from her beloved and devout daughter. Among her peers, she is respected (deservedly), but not liked or trusted (also deservedly). She seems all-too-aware that her descendants will have no very clear understanding of how people like her think; indeed, as she's very clever and somewhat alienating, most of the people she knows have no very clear idea of how people like her think. It seems as if she has no real companion after losing Norman.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Early on, Eric Larrson and Mike Havel travel alone. The testosterone-laden Eric starts trying to push Mike. ''Bad idea''.
--> '''Mike:''' ''*dodges Eric's fist and hits him*'' Kill one. ''*stops a kick and pushes Eric down*''' Kill two...
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-->'''Mike:''' ''*holds Eric against a tree by the throat*'' [[CurbStompBattle Kill six]].
** Tiphaine's chagrin in ''The Given Sacrifice'' when Mathilda informs her that "We will give you good lordship ''whether you want it or not!''" is entirely chuckle-worthy. Seven books after the introduction of "Lady Death," someone ''finally'' manages to outmaneuver her! Guess it helps to have royal authority....
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** Tiphaine's chagrin in ''The Given Sacrifice'' when Mathilda informs her that "We will give you good lordship ''whether you want it or not!''" is entirely chuckle-worthy. Seven books after the introduction of "Lady Death," someone ''finally'' manages to outmaneuver her! Guess it helps to have royal authority....
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** All three major dynasties will have blood ties via Rudi and Mathilda's children, with additional kinship ties to a fourth (the Dunedain Rangers). And a fifth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.

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** All three major dynasties will have blood ties via Rudi and Mathilda's children, with additional kinship ties to a fourth (the Dunedain Dúnedain Rangers). And a fifth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.
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** All three dynasties will have blood ties via Rudi and Mathilda's children. And a fourth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.

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** All three major dynasties will have blood ties via Rudi and Mathilda's children. And children, with additional kinship ties to a fourth (the Dunedain Rangers). And a fifth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.
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** All three dynasties will have blood ties in Rudi and Mathilda's children. And a fourth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.

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** All three dynasties will have blood ties in via Rudi and Mathilda's children. And a fourth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.
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** All three dynasties will have blood ties in Rudi and Mathilda's children. And a fourth (Mt. Angel) is brought into the fold (in about the only way it ''could'' be) by their choosing Father Ignatius as Chancellor.
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* FridgeBrilliance: With Rudi and Mathilda getting together it could be said that three of biggest "kingdoms" in Oregon are being united.
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* GeniusBonus: the Church Universal and Triumphant is an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Universal_and_Triumphant actual fringe religious group]] based in Montana, and the leader of the Church Universal and Triumphant shortly after the Change (the one who turns them from just random nutjobs into an EldritchAbomination) is heavily implied to be none other than the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber Unabomber]] himself.

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