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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Just wait until you see Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi eyeing Absalon Gohan:

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Just wait until you see The moment where Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi eyeing eyes Absalon Gohan:Gohan could give the iconic [[RelativeError Bulma-flirting-with-Future Trunks]] moment from ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' a run for its money in the internal screaming department:



'''Absalon:''' ''(visibly quivering)''

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'''Absalon:''' ''(visibly quivering)''quivers in disgust and horror)''
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** Perhaps it's not a thing of actual physical age.

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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his father's Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.

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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's age, Piccolos get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his father's Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.


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*** Even the form's name, Gohan Beast, is similar to the ''Saint'' Gohan Beasts, something that Dai also points out.
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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his father's wish of Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.

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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his father's wish of Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.
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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his fathers Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.

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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his fathers father's wish of Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.
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* FridgeLogic: Absalon claims that after a certain age Piccolo's get weaker. However, Piccolo inherited his fathers Eternal Youth, meaning he [[TheAgeless stopped aging]] after hitting his physical prime.
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-->'''Gohan Black:''' [[spoiler:You have it all, a mother! A father! ''A universe to call home!'' I don't have ''any'' of that! An alcoholic pimp like you wouldn't understand the ''hell'' that I've been through!]]

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-->'''Gohan Black:''' [[spoiler:You have it all, a all: A mother! A father! ''A universe to call home!'' I don't have ''any'' of that! An alcoholic pimp like you wouldn't understand the ''hell'' that I've been through!]]
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** After Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero, was released, many people noticed the similarities between the new transformation Gohan gets and El Blanco, [[https://youtu.be/BWr8rTTv1DY including Daito himself.]]
--->'''Emo Gohan:''' Toei! Where's the fucking money Toei!? Gohanverse did El Blanco first Toei! ''Where's the fucking money!?''

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** After Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero, was released, many people noticed the similarities between the new transformation Gohan gets and El Blanco, [[https://youtu.be/BWr8rTTv1DY including Daito Dai himself.]]
--->'''Emo Gohan:''' Toei! Where's the fucking money Toei!? Gohanverse did El Blanco first Toei! ''Where's the fucking money!?''''WHERE'S THE FUCKING MONEY!?''
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* JerkassWoobie: Gohan Black, as revealed through his OVA. [[spoiler:Back in his original reality of Universe 10, he lived a happy, loving life with his versions of Goku and Chi-Chi, free of any conflict or fighting-- the kind of peaceful life many Gohans have ''dreamed'' of having. But as time went on, Goku's heart disease slowly worsened, and one day, it took him down for good, to the devastation of his family. Sometime afterwards, Gohan took his mom out to the park hoping to see if it could cheer her up, but that was the day that El Hermano came to his world, and utterly beat the poor kid to a pulp for reasons that he couldn't understand before attempting to kill him out of frustration and disgust. Chi-Chi then took the blow to save her son, and El Hermano vaporized Universe 10, Gohan only surviving complete annihilation because of Zamasu's rescue and fusion into Gohan Black.]] While his [[WellIntentionedExtremist methods]] may be increasingly harsh, it makes ''perfect'' sense why he's so incensed at Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi for having [[AllWomenAreLustful an unhealthy addiction to sleeping with other men]], along with Emo Gohan for capitalizing on it-- [[spoiler:it sullies the memory of ''everything'' his original family meant to him.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: Gohan Black, as revealed through his OVA. [[spoiler:Back in his original reality of Universe 10, [=KAL10=], he lived a happy, loving life with his versions of Goku and Chi-Chi, free of any conflict or fighting-- the kind of peaceful life many Gohans have ''dreamed'' of having. But as time went on, Goku's heart disease slowly worsened, and one day, it took him down for good, to the devastation of his family. Sometime afterwards, Gohan took his mom out to the park hoping to see if it could cheer her up, but that was the day that El Hermano came to his world, and utterly beat the poor kid to a pulp for reasons that he couldn't understand before attempting to kill him out of frustration and disgust. Chi-Chi then took the blow to save her son, and El Hermano vaporized Universe 10, [=KAL10=], Gohan only surviving complete annihilation because of Zamasu's rescue and fusion into Gohan Black.]] While his [[WellIntentionedExtremist methods]] may be increasingly harsh, it makes ''perfect'' sense why he's so incensed at Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi for having [[AllWomenAreLustful an unhealthy addiction to sleeping with other men]], along with Emo Gohan for capitalizing on it-- [[spoiler:it sullies the memory of ''everything'' his original family meant to him.]]



** [[spoiler:El Hermano]] ''skyrockets'' past this line when he [[spoiler:erases Universe 10 from existence after a botched attempt at killing its native Gohan, just because the poor boy didn't know how to fight, let alone a good one.]] And given how [[spoiler:he's already killed numerous Gohans across numerous timelines for being too weak]], it's not hard to imagine that this might not be the first time he's done this.

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** [[spoiler:El Hermano]] ''skyrockets'' past this line when he [[spoiler:erases Universe 10 [=KAL10=] from existence after a botched attempt at killing its native Gohan, just because the poor boy didn't know how to fight, let alone a good one.]] And given how [[spoiler:he's already killed numerous Gohans across numerous timelines for being too weak]], it's not hard to imagine that this might not be the first time he's done this.
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** Similarly, Piccolo's arc about everyone seeing him as deadweight has also become this after the movie's release, with him getting a new transformation that put him back on par with everybody else.

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** Similarly, Piccolo's arc about everyone seeing him as deadweight has also become this after the movie's release, with him getting a two new transformation that put him transformations and being back on par with everybody else.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** After Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero, was released, many people noticed the similarities between the new transformation Gohan gets and El Blanco, [[https://youtu.be/BWr8rTTv1DY including Daito himself.]]
--->'''Emo Gohan:''' Toei! Where's the fucking money Toei!? Gohanverse did El Blanco first Toei! ''Where's the fucking money!?''
** Similarly, Piccolo's arc about everyone seeing him as deadweight has also become this after the movie's release, with him getting a new transformation that put him back on par with everybody else.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Hoo boy, if you thought [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Trunks' internal screaming]] was how far you could push it, just wait until you see Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi eyeing Absalon Gohan:

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Hoo boy, if you thought [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Trunks' internal screaming]] was how far you could push it, just Just wait until you see Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi eyeing Absalon Gohan:



** [[spoiler:El Hermano]] ''skyrockets'' past this line when he [[spoiler:erases Universe 10 from existence after a botched attempt at killing its native Gohan, just because the poor boy didn't know how to fight, let alone a good one.]] And given how [[spoiler:he's already killed numerous Gohans across numerous timelines for being too weak]], it's not hard to imagine that this might not be the first time he's done this.

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** [[spoiler:El Hermano]] ''skyrockets'' past this line when he [[spoiler:erases Universe 10 from existence after a botched attempt at killing its native Gohan, just because the poor boy didn't know how to fight, let alone a good one.]] And given how [[spoiler:he's already killed numerous Gohans across numerous timelines for being too weak]], it's not hard to imagine that this might not be the first time he's done this.this.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Considering how most other Gohans would've ultimately not meddled in Universe 7DT's affairs (despite frequently making fun of Emo Gohan), is Gohan Black's insistence on reforming its Chi-Chi due to legitimately wanting to make a less depraved life for her and her family as [[spoiler:encouraged by his own happy family memories and PTSD]], or is it because [[spoiler:Zamasu's [[KnightTemplar control-freak tendencies]] are unconsciously pushing him to care too much about her actions, since he with goes so far as to try to lobotomize her when he loses his patience?]] In short, [[spoiler:how much of Gohan Black's actions are purely "Gohan", and how much came from Zamasu's influence?]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Considering how most other Gohans would've ultimately not meddled in Universe 7DT's affairs (despite despite frequently making fun of Emo Gohan), Gohan, is Gohan Black's insistence on reforming its 7DT's Chi-Chi due to legitimately wanting to make a less depraved life for her and her family as [[spoiler:encouraged by his own happy family memories and PTSD]], or is it because [[spoiler:Zamasu's [[KnightTemplar control-freak tendencies]] are unconsciously pushing him to care too much about her actions, since he with goes so far as to try to lobotomize her when he loses his patience?]] In short, [[spoiler:how much of Gohan Black's actions are purely "Gohan", and how much came from Zamasu's influence?]]



* JerkassWoobie: Gohan Black, as revealed through his OVA. [[spoiler:Back in his original reality of Universe 10, he lived a happy, loving life with his versions of Goku and Chi-Chi, free of any conflict or fighting-- the kind of peaceful life many Gohans have ''dreamed'' of having. But as time went on, Goku's heart disease slowly worsened, and one day, it took him down for good, to the devastation of his family. Sometime afterwards, Gohan took his mom out to the park hoping to see if it could cheer her up, but that was the day that El Hermano came to his world, and utterly beat the poor kid to a pulp for reasons that he couldn't understand, just before attempting to kill him out of frustration and disgust. Chi-Chi then took the blow to save her son, and El Hermano vaporized Universe 10, Gohan only surviving complete annihilation because of Zamasu's rescue and fusion into Gohan Black.]] While his [[WellIntentionedExtremist methods]] may be increasingly harsh, it makes ''perfect'' sense why he's so incensed at Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi for having [[AllWomenAreLustful an unhealthy addiction to sleeping with other men]], along with Emo Gohan for capitalizing on it-- [[spoiler:it sullies the memory of ''everything'' his original family meant to him.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: Gohan Black, as revealed through his OVA. [[spoiler:Back in his original reality of Universe 10, he lived a happy, loving life with his versions of Goku and Chi-Chi, free of any conflict or fighting-- the kind of peaceful life many Gohans have ''dreamed'' of having. But as time went on, Goku's heart disease slowly worsened, and one day, it took him down for good, to the devastation of his family. Sometime afterwards, Gohan took his mom out to the park hoping to see if it could cheer her up, but that was the day that El Hermano came to his world, and utterly beat the poor kid to a pulp for reasons that he couldn't understand, just understand before attempting to kill him out of frustration and disgust. Chi-Chi then took the blow to save her son, and El Hermano vaporized Universe 10, Gohan only surviving complete annihilation because of Zamasu's rescue and fusion into Gohan Black.]] While his [[WellIntentionedExtremist methods]] may be increasingly harsh, it makes ''perfect'' sense why he's so incensed at Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi for having [[AllWomenAreLustful an unhealthy addiction to sleeping with other men]], along with Emo Gohan for capitalizing on it-- [[spoiler:it sullies the memory of ''everything'' his original family meant to him.]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Considering how most other Gohans would've ultimately not meddled in Universe 7DT's affairs (despite frequently making fun of Emo Gohan), is Gohan Black's insistence on reforming its Chi-Chi due to legitimately wanting to make a less depraved life for her and her family as [[spoiler:encouraged by his own happy family memories and PTSD]], or is it because [[spoiler:Zamasu's [[KnightTemplar control-freak tendencies]] are unconsciously pushing him to care too much about her actions, since he with goes so far as to try to lobotomize her when he loses his patience?]] In short, [[spoiler:how much of Gohan Black's actions are purely "Gohan", and how much came from Zamasu's influence?]]
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** Despite having a [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuine desire]] to mold Chi-Chi into a better person, [[spoiler:Gohan Black]] crosses this line when he [[spoiler:threatens to ''[[UsefulNotes/{{Lobotomy}} lobotomize]]'' her [[InsaneTrollLogic in the desperate hopes it'll reduce her sexual urges]], brushing off the massive risk of making her brain-dead.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler:even the decidedly neutral Absalon Gohan considers stepping in to stop him, and this gets Emo Gohan [[RageBreakingPoint shocked and enraged enough]] to [[HeelRealization stop treating his mom like a utility]] and achieve El Blanco's true power.]]

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** Despite having a [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuine desire]] to mold Chi-Chi into a better person, [[spoiler:Gohan Black]] crosses this line when he [[spoiler:threatens to ''[[UsefulNotes/{{Lobotomy}} lobotomize]]'' her [[InsaneTrollLogic in the desperate hopes it'll reduce her sexual urges]], brushing off the massive risk of making her brain-dead.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler:even the decidedly neutral Absalon Gohan considers stepping in to stop him, and this gets Emo Gohan [[RageBreakingPoint shocked and enraged enough]] to [[HeelRealization stop treating his mom like a utility]] and achieve El Blanco's true power.power to take Black down.]]
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Hoo boy, if you thought [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Trunks' internal screaming]] was how far you could push it, just wait until you see Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi eyeing Absalon Gohan:
-->'''Chi-Chi:''' I can't help it! I'm such a slut that the word is a ''compliment'' for me these days. Hell, I'm poaching for a new boy toy. ''(turns to Absalon)''\\
''(long, awkward beat)''\\
'''Absalon:''' …I am ''literally'' your son from an alternate universe!\\
'''Chi-Chi:''' Key word: ''alternate''.\\
'''Absalon:''' ''(visibly quivering)''
* JerkassWoobie: Gohan Black, as revealed through his OVA. [[spoiler:Back in his original reality of Universe 10, he lived a happy, loving life with his versions of Goku and Chi-Chi, free of any conflict or fighting-- the kind of peaceful life many Gohans have ''dreamed'' of having. But as time went on, Goku's heart disease slowly worsened, and one day, it took him down for good, to the devastation of his family. Sometime afterwards, Gohan took his mom out to the park hoping to see if it could cheer her up, but that was the day that El Hermano came to his world, and utterly beat the poor kid to a pulp for reasons that he couldn't understand, just before attempting to kill him out of frustration and disgust. Chi-Chi then took the blow to save her son, and El Hermano vaporized Universe 10, Gohan only surviving complete annihilation because of Zamasu's rescue and fusion into Gohan Black.]] While his [[WellIntentionedExtremist methods]] may be increasingly harsh, it makes ''perfect'' sense why he's so incensed at Universe 7DT's Chi-Chi for having [[AllWomenAreLustful an unhealthy addiction to sleeping with other men]], along with Emo Gohan for capitalizing on it-- [[spoiler:it sullies the memory of ''everything'' his original family meant to him.]]
-->'''Gohan Black:''' [[spoiler:You have it all, a mother! A father! ''A universe to call home!'' I don't have ''any'' of that! An alcoholic pimp like you wouldn't understand the ''hell'' that I've been through!]]
* MoralEventHorizon:
** Despite having a [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuine desire]] to mold Chi-Chi into a better person, [[spoiler:Gohan Black]] crosses this line when he [[spoiler:threatens to ''[[UsefulNotes/{{Lobotomy}} lobotomize]]'' her [[InsaneTrollLogic in the desperate hopes it'll reduce her sexual urges]], brushing off the massive risk of making her brain-dead.]] Sure enough, [[spoiler:even the decidedly neutral Absalon Gohan considers stepping in to stop him, and this gets Emo Gohan [[RageBreakingPoint shocked and enraged enough]] to [[HeelRealization stop treating his mom like a utility]] and achieve El Blanco's true power.]]
** [[spoiler:El Hermano]] ''skyrockets'' past this line when he [[spoiler:erases Universe 10 from existence after a botched attempt at killing its native Gohan, just because the poor boy didn't know how to fight, let alone a good one.]] And given how [[spoiler:he's already killed numerous Gohans across numerous timelines for being too weak]], it's not hard to imagine that this might not be the first time he's done this.

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