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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the final episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It ''does'' vaguely tie in with a discussion between the Doctor and Codal late in the second episode about how the latter felt pressured into going on the mission by all the talk of glory and prestige that would come with it, but good luck remembering that when two-thirds of the story have passed in-between the two conversations.
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank LessonOfTheDaySpeech scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the final episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It ''does'' vaguely tie in with a discussion between the Doctor and Codal late in the second episode about how the latter felt pressured into going on the mission by all the talk of glory and prestige that would come with it, but good luck remembering that when two-thirds of the story have passed in-between the two conversations.
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* BrokenAesop: The Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by dressing up in purple fur coats and {{MacGyvering}} a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is at least partly because the scene was appended to the end by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute because the script was underrunning, although his correspondence with Creator/TerryNation regarding the episode suggest that there was always meant to be ''some'' idea that, after the Doctor and companions convinced the Thals to fight in "The Daleks", the Thals had now "gone a bit to far".
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* BrokenAesop: The Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by dressing up in purple fur coats and {{MacGyvering}} a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is at least partly because the scene was appended to the end by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute because the script was underrunning, although his correspondence with Creator/TerryNation regarding the episode suggest that there was always meant to be ''some'' idea that, after the Doctor and companions convinced the Thals to fight in "The Daleks", the Thals had now "gone a bit to too far".
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* BrokenAesop: The Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by dressing up in purple fur coats and {{MacGyvering}} a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is at least partly because the scene was appended to the end by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute because the script was underrunning, although his correspondence with Creator/TerryNation regarding the episode suggest that there was always meant to be ''some'' idea that, after the Doctor and companions convinced the Thals to fight in "The Daleks", the Thals had now "gone a bit to far".
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in, right down to the jungle backdrop sound effects. Of course, at the time this wouldn't have been as bad, since serials weren't repeated and "The Daleks" had aired a decade earlier.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in, right down to the jungle backdrop sound effects. Of course, at the time this wouldn't have been as bad, since serials weren't repeated and "The Daleks" had aired a decade earlier. Though it seems to be a deliberate sequel to it.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Marat is played by Creator/HilaryMinster, who would later be best known for playing General von Klinkerhoffen in ''Series/AlloAllo''.
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** The shot of an army made up of [[OffTheShelfFX miniature toy Daleks]] is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run, thanks to how OffModel the toys are (they were the Marx Toys bump-n-go Daleks, previously used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E9TheEvilOfTheDaleks "The Evil of the Daleks"]] to similar results) -- Creator/BarryLetts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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** The shot of an army made up of [[OffTheShelfFX miniature toy Daleks]] is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run, thanks to how OffModel the toys are (they were the Marx Toys bump-n-go Daleks, previously used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E9TheEvilOfTheDaleks "The Evil of the Daleks"]] to similar results) -- Creator/BarryLetts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven worse when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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* InformedWrongness: Taron chews out Rebec for volunteering to be part of the second team that joined his own team on Spiridon, saying that their relationship (or mutual attraction, at least; it's never made very clear) might cause him to make a mistake that'll get them all killed. Leaving aside the sexist and demeaning implication that this is Rebec's fault for not staying at home instead of wondering what it says about Taron's leadership skills, Taron wasn't actually meant to be leading the mission -- their original commander was killed on landing -- and it's hardly fair to hold that against Rebec when she had no way of knowing that would be the case.
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* InformedWrongness: Taron chews out Rebec for volunteering to be part of the second team that joined his own team on Spiridon, saying that their relationship (or mutual attraction, at least; it's never made very clear) might cause him to make a mistake that'll get them all killed. Leaving aside the sexist and demeaning implication that this is Rebec's fault for not staying at home instead of wondering what it says about Taron's leadership skills, Given Taron wasn't actually was originally meant to be leading the mission -- their original commander was killed on landing -- and it's hardly fair medic (albeit technically second in command), it’s reasonable to hold think that against when Rebec when volunteered she had no way of knowing to know that would he’d be the case.put in this position.
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** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Creator/BarryLetts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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** The shot of an army made up of [[OffTheShelfFX miniature toy Daleks Daleks]] is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run run, thanks to how OffModel the toys are (they were the Marx Toys bump-n-go Daleks, previously used in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E9TheEvilOfTheDaleks "The Evil of the Daleks"]] to similar results) -- Creator/BarryLetts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher can't seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings.
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** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher Creator/MichaelWisher can't seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings.
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** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts Creator/BarryLetts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in, right down to the jungle backdrop sound effects.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in, right down to the jungle backdrop sound effects. Of course, at the time this wouldn't have been as bad, since serials weren't repeated and "The Daleks" had aired a decade earlier.
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It ''does'' vaguely tie in with a discussion between the Doctor and Codal late in the second episode about how the latter felt pressured into going on the mission by all the talk of glory and prestige that would come with it, but good luck remembering that when two-thirds of the story have passed in-between the two conversations.
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the final episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It ''does'' vaguely tie in with a discussion between the Doctor and Codal late in the second episode about how the latter felt pressured into going on the mission by all the talk of glory and prestige that would come with it, but good luck remembering that when two-thirds of the story have passed in-between the two conversations.
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** By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
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** By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also problem, and in any case the originals were ten years old by then), but then. But instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
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** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.ice.
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* InformedWrongness: Taron chews out Rebec for volunteering to be part of the second team that joined his own team on Spiridon, saying that their relationship (or mutual attraction, at least; it's never made very clear) might cause him to make a mistake that'll get them all killed. Leaving aside the sexist and demeaning implication that this is Rebec's fault for not staying at home instead of wondering what it says about Taron's leadership skills, Taron wasn't actually meant to be leading the mission -- their original commander was killed on landing -- and it's hardly fair to hold that against Rebec when she had no way of knowing that would be the case.
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story.
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the story. It ''does'' vaguely tie in with a discussion between the Doctor and Codal late in the second episode about how the latter felt pressured into going on the mission by all the talk of glory and prestige that would come with it, but good luck remembering that when two-thirds of the story have passed in-between the two conversations.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in.in, right down to the jungle backdrop sound effects.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: The most common complaint about this story is that it's essentially just a retread of the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks first Dalek story]], with some elements from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Daleks' Master Plan]]" thrown in.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher cant seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher cant seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectsFailure:
** By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wishercant can't seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlingsunderlings.
** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
** By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher
** The shot of an army made up of miniature toy Daleks is one of the most notoriously awful special effects in the show's entire run -- Barry Letts notes on the DVD commentary that it was actually just supposed to be used as a background with full-size Dalek props in the foreground, but ended up being shot at the wrong angle, making it impossible to achieve the effect -- and it gets turned UpToEleven when the "ice volcano" submerges them all in liquid ice.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.dead.
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher cant seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings
** Roy Skelton and Michael Wisher cant seem to decide who's voicing the Dalek Supreme and who's voicing the underlings
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* BrokenAesop: The Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by dressing up in purple fur coats and {{MacGyvering}} a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is because the scene was appended to the end by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute because the script was underrunning.
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* BrokenAesop: The Doctor delivers a heartfelt speech that the Thals must tell their people WarIsHell, and not to make it sound like their adventure was a 'fun game'. The story involves, amongst other things, them escaping fun, toyetic AlwaysChaoticEvil nasty pepperpot people by dressing up in purple fur coats and {{MacGyvering}} a hot air balloon. The reason for this discrepancy is because the scene was appended to the end by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute because the script was underrunning.
* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is whyit's a BrokenAesop that it doesn't fit with the rest of the story.
* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is why
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* {{Padding}}: The ScriptWank scene at the end was added by Creator/TerranceDicks at the last minute to extend the episode, which is why it's a BrokenAesop that doesn't fit with the rest of the story.story.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: By the time the serial was made, the production team had realised that the shortage of Dalek props could be a problem (also the originals were ten years old by then), but instead of building one or two really good new props, they made SEVEN solid wooden Daleks... none of which could actually move. In this story, we therefore see the same three tatty old Daleks do most of the work while all those in the background seem dead.
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