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* {{Headscratchers}}: If the Dark Fall had been locked away in prehistory, and remained [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in its can]] until George and Arther started messing around with the occult, how did it make off with Tom Oliver back during the English Civil War?
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* AdaptationDistillation: is also present, as some of the time passages have been removed, there is only one pair of Ghost-Hunting Goggles rather than two, and Polly does not mention the Dowerton Experiment in her journal, probably due to the CosmicRetcon. James Woolf is also made a little too more prominent in 1912.
** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal [[spoiler: and the Dark Fall's graffiti]], and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.
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* SpiritualLicensee: ''The Journal'' is the closest we're ever likely to get to a ''Series/SapphireAndSteel'' video game.
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''Lights Out''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on [=DVDs=], which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.
** Inverted for another disk that has an EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, but the people at the Fetch Rock exhibit in 2004 still used floppies.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Apparently in 2090, [=DVDs=], floppy disks, and [=MP3=] players are still commonplace. Though Mitsoyu Taku in ''Lights Out''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on [=DVDs=], which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto former "primitive" in one of her journal entries.
** Played with throughout the game with items from future time periods scattered in past ones. The first example you find in-game is
a floppy disk.
** Inverted for another
disk that has [[spoiler: an EVP recording of Malakai, Malakai]], found in 1912. Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, but the people at the Fetch Rock exhibit in 2004 still used floppies.
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Not YMMV.


* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''.
** Malakai's distorted voice in ''Lights Out'' may come in second.
** There's also the sound files on Polly + Nigel's computer in the first game.
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** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal [[soiler: and the Dark Fall's graffiti]], and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.

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** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal [[soiler: [[spoiler: and the Dark Fall's graffiti]], and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.
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** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.

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** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal [[soiler: and the Dark Fall's graffiti]], and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.
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* ThatOnePuzzle: Placing the symbols to activate the scrying bowl in the original game. Better be good at sketching subtle grain-lines in wood if you want to tackle ''this'' one without peeking at a pic of the solution...
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* AdaptationExpansion: The Director's Cut of ''Lights Out'' has different versions of the journals and books within the time zones, some with added ominous music; more ghosts can be seen around the lighthouse and interactive prompts can be used to talk to them rather than simply waiting for a response, and a few of the puzzles are made easier. The D.E.O.S. Launch Room actually has a useful purpose, too.

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* AdaptationExpansion: The Director's Cut of ''Lights Out'' has different versions of the journals and books within the time zones, some with added ominous music; more ghosts can be seen around the lighthouse lighthouse, and interactive prompts can be used to talk to them rather than simply waiting for a response, response; and a few of the puzzles are made easier. The D.E.O.S. Launch Room actually has a useful purpose, too.easier.
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* AdaptationExpansion: The Director's Cut of ''Lights Out'' has different versions of the journals and books within the time zones, some with added ominous music; more ghosts can be seen around the lighthouse and interactive prompts can be used to talk to them rather than simply waiting for a response, and a few of the puzzles are made easier. The D.E.O.S. Launch Room actually has a useful purpose, too.
* AdaptationDistillation: is also present, as some of the time passages have been removed, there is only one pair of Ghost-Hunting Goggles rather than two, and Polly does not mention the Dowerton Experiment in her journal, probably due to the CosmicRetcon. James Woolf is also made a little too more prominent in 1912.
** Both of these also apply to the first game, which had multiple rereleases, including one that came after ''Lost Souls''. An example being Edith's record player: In Version 5 from 2003, the name of the track she likes was originally "As Time Goes By", but in this rerelease, the name was changed to "On Hastings Pier" in reference to other clues elsewhere in the hotel. But "As Time Goes By" is still mentioned in Polly's journal and you can still hear Edith singing it in a few places.
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* PropRecycling: A book called "The Stationer's Guide to Photography", found in James Woolf's bedsheets, was eventually carried over to the Argentinian horror game, ''VideoGame/{{Scratches}}'', partially developed by Boakes.
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* MST3KMantra: Best not to ask how or why Benjamin Parker can manipulate the various devices in time periods that are futuristic to him.
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** These issues are likely due to an oversight in the games where any screen containing a sound will, more often than not, play the sound that's meant to show up, ''every time you pass that node''.
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** Probably UpToEleven in one of the rooms of the hotel in ''LostSouls''. From the music and overall atmosphere of the place, it would seem like that the pupae in there are going to hatch at any moment, [[spoiler: but fortunately, they don't.]]
* SchmuckBait: If you have the soundtrack for ''LostSouls'', look at the track names and play ''The Butterfly Room''. Definitely not what you think it's going to be.

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** Probably UpToEleven in one of the rooms of the hotel in ''LostSouls''.''Lost Souls''. From the music and overall atmosphere of the place, it would seem like that the pupae in there are going to hatch at any moment, [[spoiler: but fortunately, they don't.]]
* SchmuckBait: If you have the soundtrack for ''LostSouls'', ''Lost Souls'', look at the track names and play ''The Butterfly Room''. Definitely not what you think it's going to be.



* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on [=DVDs=], which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''.''Lights Out''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on [=DVDs=], which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.

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* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''. Malakai's distorted voice in ''Lights Out'' may come in second.

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* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''.
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Malakai's distorted voice in ''Lights Out'' may come in second.



** Inverted for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, but the people at the Fetch Rock exhibit in 2004 still used floppies.

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** Inverted for another disk that has an EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, but the people at the Fetch Rock exhibit in 2004 still used floppies.
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** Justified for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Although Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, floppies were still in use back in 2004.

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** Justified Inverted for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Although Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, floppies were but the people at the Fetch Rock exhibit in 2004 still in use back in 2004.used floppies.
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on DVDs, which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on DVDs, [=DVDs=], which she calls "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.
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* Headscratchers: If the Dark Fall had been locked away in prehistory, and remained [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in its can]] until George and Arther started messing around with the occult, how did it make off with Tom Oliver back during the English Civil War?

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* Headscratchers: {{Headscratchers}}: If the Dark Fall had been locked away in prehistory, and remained [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in its can]] until George and Arther started messing around with the occult, how did it make off with Tom Oliver back during the English Civil War?
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* GuiltBasedGaming: Malakai needs people to help him get back to the time and place he came from, and you're the last one available since the others went nuts. But come on, does Malakai sound like someone you'd want to help?

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* GuiltBasedGaming: Malakai needs people to help him get back to the time and place he came from, and you're the last one available since the others went nuts. But come on, does Malakai sound like someone you'd want to help?help? Sure, several of the vanished people deserve rescue, but the game doesn't actually hint that saving them is even possible until the space probe's parting words.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Handwaved by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on DVDs and calls them "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk. Justified for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Although Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, floppies were still in use back in 2004.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Handwaved Lampshaded by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on DVDs and DVDs, which she calls them "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk.
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Justified for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Although Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, floppies were still in use back in 2004.
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: Handwaved by Mitsoyu Taku in ''LightsOut''. She goes digging for [[spoiler: fingerprint files]] backed up on DVDs and calls them "primitive". But Ivan Krozt, next door, apparently wrote the code to his toy robot onto a floppy disk. Justified for another disk that has EVP recording of Malakai, found in 1912. Although Mr. Demarion has no idea what it is, floppies were still in use back in 2004.
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** Probably UpToEleven in one of the rooms of the hotel in ''LostSouls''. From the music and overall atmosphere of the place, it would seem like that the pupae in there are going to hatch at any moment, [[spoiler: but fortunately, they don't.]]
* SchmuckBait: If you have the soundtrack for ''LostSouls'', look at the track names and play ''The Butterfly Room''. Definitely not what you think it's going to be.
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** There's also the sound files on Polly + Nigel's computer in the first game.

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* GuiltBasedGaming: Malakai needs people to help him get back to the time and place he came from, and you're the last one available since the others went nuts. But come on, does Malakai sound like someone you'd want to help?



* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''.

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* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''. Malakai's distorted voice in ''Lights Out'' may come in second.
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* MostAnnoyingSound: Play enough ''Dark Fall'', and sooner or later you'll get really sick of the oft-reused "over here!" ghost-voice soundclip used in every game. Especially when you actually do go "Over there" in ''Light's Out'' and the little **** starts [[BerserkButton LAUGHING at you!]]

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* MostAnnoyingSound: Play enough ''Dark Fall'', and sooner or later you'll get really sick of the oft-reused "over here!" ghost-voice soundclip used in every game. Especially when you actually do go "Over there" in ''Light's Out'' and the little **** starts [[BerserkButton LAUGHING at you!]]you!]] And let's not forget that short violin tune that plays every time you move to a certain screen in ''Lights Out''. It's even right at the start of the game!
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* Headscratchers: If the Dark Fall had been locked away in prehistory, and remained [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in its can]] until George and Arther started messing around with the occult, how did it make off with Tom Oliver back during the English Civil War?
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* HellIsThatNoise: Used a ''lot'' with [[spoiler: the grub-things and worse]] in ''Lost Souls''.
* HoYay: George Crabtree and Arther


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* MostAnnoyingSound: Play enough ''Dark Fall'', and sooner or later you'll get really sick of the oft-reused "over here!" ghost-voice soundclip used in every game. Especially when you actually do go "Over there" in ''Light's Out'' and the little **** starts [[BerserkButton LAUGHING at you!]]
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* ParanoiaFuel: Plenty of this to go with the NightmareFuel, high octane or otherwise. Spooky noises, creaking floorboards, creepy writing on the wall, ghosts telling you repeatedly that you're doomed and going to die...

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* ParanoiaFuel: Plenty of this to go with the NightmareFuel, high octane or otherwise. Spooky noises, creaking floorboards, creepy writing on the wall, ghosts telling you repeatedly that you're doomed and going to die...
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: THE ENTIRE GAME!!!
** The best way to descrbe this game would be {{Myst}} meets the scariest parts of TheBlairWitchProject.


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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: THE ENTIRE GAME!!!
** The best way to descrbe this game would be {{Myst}} meets the scariest parts of TheBlairWitchProject.
* IronWoobie: Timothy Pike.
* JerkassWoobie: Matilda Fly, though she drops the jerkass part in ''Lost Souls''.
* NightmareFuel: Plenty. It's a horror adventure, after all.
* ParanoiaFuel: Plenty of this to go with the NightmareFuel, high octane or otherwise. Spooky noises, creaking floorboards, creepy writing on the wall, ghosts telling you repeatedly that you're doomed and going to die...
* TearJerker: The Journal.
* TheWoobie: Arther.
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