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%%* FandomRivalry: With ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife''* FandomEnragingMisconception: While fans of both ''Coco'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife'' don't mind if one compares one with the other, do '''not''' call ''Coco'' a ''Book of Life'' ripoff in front of any ''Coco'' fan. Unless you want to hear a lengthy speech about the massive differences between the two works, as the only thing they have in common is the setting, the protagonists having vague similarities and both taking place on the Day of the Dead.


** Speaking of which, Gael Garcia plays the "cursi" brother, Tato, who dreams of becoming a famous musician and his song (a banda cover of Cheap Trick's "I want you to want me") says something about polishing his boots. [[spoiler:guess for what Héctor left Imelda and Coco and which are the trademark shoes of Imelda? Also, similarly to Héctor, Tato's dreams of being a musician and a football player, [[NoPunIntended to boot]], ends up costing everything]].
** Creator/BenjaminBratt's role as [[spoiler:the HiddenVillain is a lot more shocking]] than [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe2 the last time he played one]].

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** Speaking of which, Gael Garcia plays the "cursi" brother, Tato, who dreams of becoming a famous musician and his song (a banda cover of Cheap Trick's "I want you to want me") says something about polishing his boots. [[spoiler:guess [[spoiler:Guess for what Héctor left Imelda and Coco and which are the trademark shoes of Imelda? Also, similarly to Héctor, Tato's dreams of being a musician and a football player, [[NoPunIntended to boot]], ends player end up costing everything]].
everything.]]
** Creator/BenjaminBratt's role as [[spoiler:the HiddenVillain [[spoiler:an EvilAllAlong villain is a lot more shocking]] than [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe2 the last time he played one]].



** Ernesto would move heaven and earth for Héctor... but also [[IfICantHaveYou murder him for trying to go home to his wife.]]
** [[https://youtu.be/dbOLr0N4yk8?t=1m49s This guy swooning at Ernesto('s song?) like the three women and his girlfriend]].

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** Ernesto would move heaven and earth for Héctor... but also [[IfICantHaveYou murder him for trying to go home to his wife.]]
wife]].
** [[https://youtu.be/dbOLr0N4yk8?t=1m49s This guy swooning at Ernesto('s song?) like the three women and his girlfriend]].girlfriend.]]


** Héctor might be the biggest IronWoobie in Pixar history, or even in all of Disney history, ''period.'' He left his wife and child to pursue a music career with his friend Ernesto. When he changed his mind and tried to go back home to his family, Ernesto poisoned him, stole his songs to make himself rich and famous, and let Héctor's family believe he abandoned them for the sake of his own dream. As a result, his wife Imelda and the rest of his family hated him, [[{{Unperson}} deliberately forgot his memory,]] and refused to put his picture on the ofrenda, preventing him from crossing over to the living world on Dia de los Muertos, even to see his daughter Coco, the only person who still loved and remembered him. Reduced to living in the slums with other family-less skeletons, cut off from both his living and dead family, he was forced to watch [[KarmaHoudini Ernesto]] become [[VillainWithGoodPublicity rich, famous, and beloved]] on the songs that he stole from Héctor, while Héctor himself never got any credit for them or even got invited to Ernesto's parties. But still, he never gave up hope that he would see Coco again. Every year, he tried to cross over and see her, but failed each time. He tried [[TheDeterminator for years and years and years,]] until Coco herself was a senile old woman on her deathbed, about to forget him for good, which meant [[DeaderThanDead he would fade away]] without ever seeing her again. It's only when Miguel comes into his life that he gets the chance to uncover the truth, ''finally'' be reunited with his family, and be remembered as the legendary songwriter and loving family man he really was. Héctor had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding wait a long time and go through a great deal of hell to get his happy ending, but there's no doubt that he really ''really'' needed one]].

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** Héctor might be the biggest IronWoobie in Pixar history, or even in all of Disney history, ''period.'' He left his wife and child to pursue a music career with his friend Ernesto. When he changed his mind and tried to go back home to his family, Ernesto poisoned him, stole his songs to make himself rich and famous, and let Héctor's family believe he abandoned them for the sake of his own dream. As a result, his wife Imelda and the rest of his family hated him, [[{{Unperson}} deliberately forgot his memory,]] and refused to put his picture on the ofrenda, preventing him from crossing over to the living world on Dia de los Muertos, even to see his daughter Coco, the only person who still loved and remembered him. Reduced to living in the slums with other family-less skeletons, cut off from both his living and dead family, he was forced to watch [[KarmaHoudini Ernesto]] become [[VillainWithGoodPublicity rich, famous, and beloved]] on the songs that he stole from Héctor, while Héctor himself never got any credit for them or even got invited to Ernesto's parties. But still, he never gave up hope that he would see Coco again. Every year, he tried to cross over and see her, but failed each time. He tried [[TheDeterminator for years and years and years,]] until Coco herself was a senile old woman on her deathbed, about to forget him for good, which meant [[DeaderThanDead he would fade away]] without ever seeing her again. It's only when Miguel comes into his life that he gets the chance to uncover the truth, ''finally'' be reunited with his family, and be remembered as the legendary songwriter and loving family man he really was. Héctor had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding wait a long time and go through a great deal of hell to get his happy ending, ending]], but there's no doubt that he really ''really'' needed one]].one.


** Héctor might be the biggest IronWoobie in Pixar history, or even in all of Disney history, ''period.'' He left his wife and child to pursue a music career with his friend Ernesto. When he changed his mind and tried to go back home to his family, Ernesto poisoned him, stole his songs to make himself rich and famous, and let Héctor's family believe he abandoned them for the sake of his own dream. As a result, his wife Imelda and the rest of his family hated him, [[{{Unperson}} deliberately forgot his memory,]] and refused to put his picture on the ofrenda, preventing him from crossing over to the living world on Dia de los Muertos, even to see his daughter Coco, the only person who still loved and remembered him. Reduced to living in the slums with other family-less skeletons, cut off from both his living and dead family, he was forced to watch [[KarmaHoudini Ernesto]] become [[VillainWithGoodPublicity rich, famous, and beloved]] on the songs that he stole from Héctor, while Héctor himself never got any credit for them or even got invited to Ernesto's parties. But still, he never gave up hope that he would see Coco again. Every year, he tried to cross over and see her, but failed each time. He tried [[TheDeterminator for years and years and years,]] until Coco herself was a senile old woman on her deathbed, about to forget him for good, which meant [[DeaderThanDead he would fade away]] without ever seeing her again. It's only when Miguel comes that he gets the chance to uncover the truth, ''finally'' be reunited with his family, and be remembered as the legendary songwriter and loving family man he really was. Héctor had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding wait a long time and go through a great deal of hell to get his happy ending, but there's no doubt that he really ' 'really' ' needed it]].

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** Héctor might be the biggest IronWoobie in Pixar history, or even in all of Disney history, ''period.'' He left his wife and child to pursue a music career with his friend Ernesto. When he changed his mind and tried to go back home to his family, Ernesto poisoned him, stole his songs to make himself rich and famous, and let Héctor's family believe he abandoned them for the sake of his own dream. As a result, his wife Imelda and the rest of his family hated him, [[{{Unperson}} deliberately forgot his memory,]] and refused to put his picture on the ofrenda, preventing him from crossing over to the living world on Dia de los Muertos, even to see his daughter Coco, the only person who still loved and remembered him. Reduced to living in the slums with other family-less skeletons, cut off from both his living and dead family, he was forced to watch [[KarmaHoudini Ernesto]] become [[VillainWithGoodPublicity rich, famous, and beloved]] on the songs that he stole from Héctor, while Héctor himself never got any credit for them or even got invited to Ernesto's parties. But still, he never gave up hope that he would see Coco again. Every year, he tried to cross over and see her, but failed each time. He tried [[TheDeterminator for years and years and years,]] until Coco herself was a senile old woman on her deathbed, about to forget him for good, which meant [[DeaderThanDead he would fade away]] without ever seeing her again. It's only when Miguel comes into his life that he gets the chance to uncover the truth, ''finally'' be reunited with his family, and be remembered as the legendary songwriter and loving family man he really was. Héctor had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding wait a long time and go through a great deal of hell to get his happy ending, but there's no doubt that he really ' 'really' ' ''really'' needed it]].one]].


** Miguel is pressured to accept Elena's tamales even though he isn't hungry any more, and she piles several onto his plate. The year of the film's release, the OECD rated Mexico has having the highest obesity rate of ''any'' country in the world, with the Mexico Ministry of Health declaring an epidemiological emergency for diabetes, overweight, and obesity, with special concern for an increase in childhood obesity.

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** Miguel is pressured to accept Elena's tamales even though he isn't hungry any more, and she piles several onto his plate. The year of the film's release, the OECD rated Mexico has having the highest obesity rate of ''any'' country in the world, with the Mexico Ministry of Health declaring an epidemiological emergency for diabetes, overweight, and obesity, with expressing special concern for over an increase in childhood obesity.

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** Miguel is pressured to accept Elena's tamales even though he isn't hungry any more, and she piles several onto his plate. The year of the film's release, the OECD rated Mexico has having the highest obesity rate of ''any'' country in the world, with the Mexico Ministry of Health declaring an epidemiological emergency for diabetes, overweight, and obesity, with special concern for an increase in childhood obesity.


** The skeletons that live in Land of the Dead count too. Héctor is a prime example - he is a funny-looking skeleton who looks borderline zombie-like and wears ugly ragged clothes, but he is also so charming and funny that he is actually kind of ''adorable''.

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** The skeletons that live in Land of the Dead count too. Héctor is a prime example - he is a funny-looking skeleton who looks borderline zombie-like and wears ugly ragged clothes, but he is also so charming and funny that he is actually kind of ''adorable''. His [[TheWoobie tragic backstory]] and relationship with Miguel definitely helps.


** Ernesto De La Cruz. One side thinks that he's a [[LoveToHate great villain]], or he's at the very least tolerated. The other thinks that he wasn't necessary as a character, thinking that Héctor dying by accident when he tried to return [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot would've been a stronger and more realistic story]]. However, the general reception is that he's one of the ''better'' executed Disney twist villains.
** In some respects, it's very unfortunate that the climax didn't involve a [[MexicanStandoff Mexican]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Standoff]]...

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** Ernesto De La Cruz. One side thinks that he's a [[LoveToHate great villain]], or he's at the very least tolerated. The other thinks that he wasn't necessary as a character, thinking that Héctor dying by accident when he tried to return [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot would've been a stronger and more realistic story]]. However, the general reception is that he's one of the ''better'' executed ''better''-executed Disney twist villains.
** In some respects, it's very unfortunate that the climax didn't involve a [[MexicanStandoff Mexican]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Standoff]]...
villains.


* ClicheStorm: You've seen this movie before. Kid with dreams that his family doesn't approve of, ParentalAbandonment, talent show the protagonist wants to enter, revered hero [[EvilAllAlong revealed as]] {{Jerkass}} BrokenPedestal, etc. [[TropesAreTools Of course, none of this makes the film bad at all]].

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* ClicheStorm: You've seen this movie before. Kid with dreams that his family doesn't approve of, ParentalAbandonment, talent show the protagonist wants to enter, revered hero [[EvilAllAlong revealed as]] {{Jerkass}} BrokenPedestal, etc. [[TropesAreTools [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools Of course, none of this makes the film bad at all]].

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** In some respects, it's very unfortunate that the climax didn't involve a [[MexicanStandoff Mexican]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Standoff]]...


** TheReveal (the beloved Ernesto de la Cruz is actually a fraud and murderer) is a lot harder to swallow after Pixar founder/CEO and hero to many aspiring animators John Lasseter took a leave of absence following reports of his history of sexual misconduct and mistreatment of female and minority employees. Even worse, it occurred mere ''days'' before the movie was released! And not just Lasseter. The movie came out within a period of accusations of sexual assault and harassment by much respected and famous actors and other film/television industry big shots that destroyed fans' passion for them and their work, much like how Ernesto's actions being revealed to the public almost instantly turned his fans against him. Additionally, reportedly John Lasseter stole the idea and credit for ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'' from one Jorgen Klubien, an animator who was friends with Lasseter at [=CalArts=] and later Pixar, [[KickedUpstairs and booted Klubien to script-writing]] before removing him from the film altogether. The parallels to Héctor, Héctor's friendship with Ernesto de la Cruz, and how Cruz ultimately threw Héctor, his best friend, under the bus in order to steal Héctor's idea and went on to fame and glory are eerie.

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** TheReveal (the beloved Ernesto de la Cruz is actually a fraud and murderer) is a lot harder to swallow after Pixar founder/CEO and hero to many aspiring animators John Lasseter took a leave of absence following reports of his history of sexual misconduct and mistreatment of female and minority employees. Even worse, it occurred mere ''days'' ''1 day'' before the movie was released! And not just Lasseter. The movie came out within a period of accusations of sexual assault and harassment by much respected and famous actors and other film/television industry big shots that destroyed fans' passion for them and their work, much like how Ernesto's actions being revealed to the public almost instantly turned his fans against him. Additionally, reportedly John Lasseter stole the idea and credit for ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'' from one Jorgen Klubien, an animator who was friends with Lasseter at [=CalArts=] and later Pixar, [[KickedUpstairs and booted Klubien to script-writing]] before removing him from the film altogether. The parallels to Héctor, Héctor's friendship with Ernesto de la Cruz, and how Cruz ultimately threw Héctor, his best friend, under the bus in order to steal Héctor's idea and went on to fame and glory are eerie.

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** When and how did any of the minor characters in the Land of the Dead, well, die? Specially the ones that look young? What's their story?


** Crosses over with BilingualBonus: The song sung at the climax, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Llorona_(song) La Llorona]], was probably first sung in the years of the Mexican Revolution. The genius here is that Imelda opened the shoe-making workshop on 1921, based on a sign on the Rivera's house, so of course she knows so well the song: she was there when La Llorona became popular! Also that means that Imelda, Héctor and Ernesto went through the fighting years.
** After Miguel and Héctor's meeting with Ernesto goes bad, both are tossed into what looks to be an old well some 100 feet deep leading into a natural cave. The typical name for a dungeon built like this is an "oubliette", which means "place of forgetting." What's the one thing the people in the land of the dead fear? Said holes are "cenotes," found on the Yucatan peninsula, where the asteroid that helped kill the dinosaurs hit, and were revered by the Mayans as both a source of freshwater and as an entrance into the afterlife.

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** Crosses over with BilingualBonus: The untranslated song sung at the climax, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Llorona_(song) La Llorona]], was probably first sung in the years of the Mexican Revolution. The genius here is that Imelda opened the shoe-making workshop on 1921, based on a sign on the Rivera's house, so of course she knows so well the song: she was there when La Llorona became popular! Also that means that Imelda, Héctor and Ernesto went through the fighting years.
** Furthermore, the line Imelda sings while tenderly looking at Héctor is "I won't stop loving you".
** After Miguel and Héctor's meeting with Ernesto goes bad, both are tossed into what looks to be an old well some 100 feet deep leading into a natural cave. The typical name for a dungeon built like this is an "oubliette", which means "place of forgetting." What's the one thing the people in the land of the dead fear? Said fear?
** In addition, said
holes are "cenotes," found on in the Yucatan peninsula, where the asteroid that helped kill the dinosaurs hit, and were revered by the Mayans as both a source of freshwater and as an entrance into the afterlife.


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** The architecture in the Land of the Dead is a clever summary of Mexican history, with the lowest levels being Mayan-inspired, then Aztec, then colonial Spanish, then Victorian, and finally Art Déco and modern styles, all built on top of each other.


* CriticalResearchFailure: Not the final film, where Pixar has ShownTheirWork, but the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen earlier plotline]] about a [[ButNotTooForeign Mexican]]-[[ForeignCorrespondent American]] boy discovering the holiday in the aftermath of his mother's death and learning to let her go and move on with his life. As admitted by Lee Unkrich, this is the ''opposite'' of what the Day of the Dead is about, and likely betrays a [[ValuesDissonance cultural dissonance]] resulting from the fact that none of the people originally involved with the movie were Mexican or Hispanic.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Not the final film, where Pixar has ShownTheirWork, but the [[WhatCouldHaveBeen earlier plotline]] about a [[ButNotTooForeign Mexican]]-[[ForeignCorrespondent American]] boy discovering the holiday in the aftermath of his mother's death and learning to let her go and move on with his life. As admitted by Lee Unkrich, this is the ''opposite'' of what the Day of the Dead is about, and likely betrays a [[ValuesDissonance cultural dissonance]] resulting from was due to ValuesDissonance caused by the fact that none of the people originally involved with the movie were Mexican or Hispanic.


** Some Spaniards accused Disney/Pixar of being lazy and cheap when it was announced that there would be no SameLanguageDub for the country as is usual. However, the Latin American dub turned to be really good (with even minor characters voiced by first line actors), and the story is so profoundly Mexican that the Mexican accents were found immersive rather than detracting.

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** Some Spaniards It also [[WinBackTheCrowd won back the crowd]] in Spain, where some had accused Disney/Pixar of being lazy and cheap when it was announced before release, due to the fact that there would be is no SameLanguageDub [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage for the country as is usual. However, country]]. After the Latin American movie came out, the Mexican dub turned to be really good was praised instead for its quality (with even minor characters voiced by first line actors), and immersive power, due to the story is being so profoundly Mexican that the Mexican accents were found immersive rather than detracting.Mexican.

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