History YMMV / Battleborn

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Battleborn'' failed largely because its inability to sell its cartoony HeroShooter[=/=]{{MOBA}} premise to the mainstream masses. [=MOBA=] fans were turned off by the game's first person shooter elements, which made it difficult for executing the complex strategies of a traditional [=MOBA=] like ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends''. On the flip side, hero shooter fans dismissed the game at face value of being an ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' clone just because it too is a shooter with heroes, a cartoony art style, and a first person shooter perspective. Yet the ultimate killing blow to the game's potential was its $60 dollar retail price as other hero shooters, most notably ''VideoGame/{{Paladins}}'' and ''VideoGame/ApexLegends'', were able to thrive by launching as free-to-play games that could reach out to a larger audience and justify the inclusion of microtransactions.

** The Battleborn Porn Subreddit. [[note]]Randy Pitchford tweeted a link to a Battleborn Rule 34 subreddit. Not only was it seen as {{AstroTurf}}ing, as the subreddit was recently created before said tweet, but it was also widely seen as trying to bring back the dead horse. Immediately, it was spammed by Overwatch fans and critics of Pitchford, with mocking links to Overwatch porn and call-out posts.[[/note]]

** The Wolf Sentry you have to Escort in the mission "Void's Edge" is liked for avoiding the usual problems with EscortMissions. For One unlike most Escortees, He actually has a decent enough firepower to not only defend himself, but even help out the Players. Plus He is a [[CuteMachine pretty likable]] character with some funny lines. Many where saddened [[spoiler:that the Mission required him to die.]]

** The Wolf Sentry you have to Escort in the mission "Void's Edge" is liked for avoiding the usual problems with EscortMissions. For One unlike most Escortees, He actually has a decent enough firepower to not only defend himself, but even help out the Players. Plus He is a [[CuteMachine pretty likable]] character with some funny lines.Many where saddened In-Universe and Out-Universe [[Spoiler: that the Mission required him to die]]

* FandomRivalry: With a couple of games, but mostly with ''Overwatch''. However it should be noted that thanks to the rather shaky post-release cycle this game has endured, every rivalry it's had has pretty much faded away (or was virtually nonexistent to begin with). Aside from a few players still griping over the more popular games' success and ''Battleborn''[='s=] lamentable fall into niche gaming, there's plenty of overlap between ''Battleborn'' players and its rivals' players,[[note]]Thanks to ''Battleborn''[='s=] constant price drops, plenty of people who had played ''Overwatch'' or any other game first managed to try and get into ''Battleborn'' and have tended to enjoyed it (with most of the complaints being similar to what longtime players were already complaining about).[[/note]] to the point where there isn't as much bad blood between the games' anymore. But to get into specifics:

* CultClassic: Despite it being overlooked over other games (Most obviously VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}) The game has managed to earn itself a decent number of fans.

* CultClassic: Despite the game being overlooked over other games (Most obviously VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}) The game has managed to earn itself a decent number of fans.

* CultClassic: It could be classified as one since despite it being overlooked over other games (Most obviously "VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}") The game has managed to earn itself a decent number of fans.

* CultClassic: It could be classified as one since despite it being overlooked over other games (Most obviously "VideoGame/Overwatch") The game has managed to earn itself a decent number of fans.

*** Before eventually dying down, the rivalry became more pronounced as time went on, thanks to ''Overwatch'' ultimately proving to be immensely popular while ''Battleborn'' struggled to stay relevant and maintain its playerbase while also trying to fix its own base-breaking issues. ''Battleborn''[='s=] problems, particularly for PC players, had even led many of them jumping ship and onto ''Overwatch'' for a variety of reasons, and some of them feel so burned by the experience that they lash out at ''Battleborn'' in response, exacerbating the rivalry.

** Not helping the game's case was the fact that many players were still bitter over ''VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines'', Gearbox's last major game. Whether you feel this game deserved to do poorly because of it or not, it's not hard to see why that did ''Battleborn'' no favors, especially with ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' coming out later and basically demolishing it. The game is seen as a cautionary tale on how the negative reception of one game can end up hurting another.

* SilentMajority : Despite what is said about the dying player base. The Game is actually doing quite well. Not as well as [[VideoGame Overwatch]] but certainly not as bad as people would put it out to be.

** Hi, Randy! The game averages [[http://steamcharts.com/app/394230 40-60 players]] on at any given moment for the past 5 months, and it's shrinking as time goes on. Updates have stopped as of September 2017 and queue times for games can be 15-20 minutes, and that's during "peak" hours. It is not doing well at all!

* SilentMajority : Despite what is said about the dying player base. The Game is actually doing quite well. Not as well as [[VideoGame/Overwatch]] but certainly not as bad as people would put it out to be.

* SilentMajority : Despite what is said about the dying player base. The Game is actually doing quite well. Not as well as VideoGame/Overwatch but certainly not as bad as people would put it out to be.

* SilentMajority : Despite what is said about the dying player base. The Game is actually doing quite well. Not as well as "Overwatch" but certainly not as bad as people would put it out to be.

** Since release, the playerbase fractured even further due to a multitude of problems that have led players to lament that the game is "dying" in some form or another. Related to this:
*** ''Is'' the game even dying? Most of this comes from the PC players, who have had to deal with ''Battleborn''[='s=] poor optimization on the platform for over a month, and left the game because of it. Meanwhile, console players have reported that the game is "just fine" on their end and some believe that only a certain VocalMinority have problems in the first place (and yes, this means ''Battleborn'' has a sort of console war going on within its playerbase). There are also people with either version of ''Battleborn'' who think that constantly talking about the game dying is only turning away potential players and isn't helping at all and just want to work towards keeping the game afloat instead of constantly lamenting about it. Things only got worse when Battleborn was put in a Humble Bundle less than two months after release as a $15 purchase, a full 75% discount and even further once you take into account the rest of the games in the bundle. Copies of the PS4 port were even available for less than ten dollars, only half a year after launch.

* NightmareFuel: Beatrix seems to have taken in and ''embraced'' the more unnerving parts of the Jennerit lore into her design. She looks like a cybernetic GothicLolita with a syringe for an arm and is not afraid of smiling often. However, she also sports a mean GlasgowGrin, turning most of her smiles into [[CheshireCatGrin something creepy at best]] and [[SlasherSmile something horrific at worst]]. Add this to her [[MadDoctor personality]], and you've got the recipe for an especially disturbing CreepyChild.

* LoveItOrHateIt: The humor, carrying over the general opinions from ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands}}''. It's either really funny and full of personality, or stale memes and regurgitated pop culture references repeated at, and in, obnoxious volumes.

* PortingDisaster: The PC version released with such poor optimization that a fair number of PC players couldn't run the game at all, even though more graphically intensive games (and even its rival, ''Overwatch'') ran fine on the affected [=PCs=]. This has since been worked on, but for some people, it took too long to fix (over a month since release), resulting in a dwindling PC playerbase who embittered by the handling of the situation.

** During the beta, ISIC and Miko were heavily criticized for being hard to kill. After open beta, ISIC became more of a GlassCannon.

** Galilea has been one of the top-tier characters for the game's entire existence. One of her helix options effectively doubles her DPS as long as she's at full health (and the player knows what they're doing) and she has access to pretty much every single CC option in the game, including a pull ''at Level 1''. This isn't helped by the devs seemingly mocking the people annoyed at her strength, with her getting a taunt voiceline ("Who seeks to nerf the Wraith?") and a title ("Girl With It All") referencing the backlash against her without...you know, actually fixing the issue.

** "Hi, Randy!" and variants in response to anyone speaking positively of Battleborn, or jokes about Battleborn being the ButtMonkey in the overall FandomRivalry of Overwatch, Battleborn, and Paladins.[[note]]Randy Pitchford is one of Gearbox's founders and is known for tongue-in-cheek ShamelessSelfPromotion (as well as a sizeable number of critics who blame him for VideoGame/AliensColonialMarines' downgrades and shady practices), and still tries his damndest to market Battleborn after it fell off the radar.[[/note]]

** ISIC and Miko both received complaints during the Beta about being impossible to kill, both received {{Nerf}}s, turning ISIC into more of a GlassCannon.