Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / Battleborn

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The two games actually have very different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). But even with [[[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU various videos aimed at pointing out the differences,]] ''Battleborn'' continually receives hate from the ''Overwatch'' fandom on social media, usually in the form of FollowTheLeader and StopHavingFunGuys accusations. This coincides with another reason the rivalry exists: that ''Overwatch'' happens to be much more prominent in marketing compared to ''Battleborn'' makes the former seem to overshadow the latter by a wide margin. This has led to fans of either game accusing the other of "[[SpotlightStealingSquad stealing its spotlight]]" and/or "[[FollowTheLeader stealing its ideas/premise]]".

to:

** The two games actually have very different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). But even with [[[[https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU various videos aimed at pointing out the differences,]] ''Battleborn'' continually receives hate from the ''Overwatch'' fandom on social media, usually in the form of FollowTheLeader and StopHavingFunGuys accusations. This coincides with another reason the rivalry exists: that ''Overwatch'' happens to be much more prominent in marketing compared to ''Battleborn'' makes the former seem to overshadow the latter by a wide margin. This has led to fans of either game accusing the other of "[[SpotlightStealingSquad stealing its spotlight]]" and/or "[[FollowTheLeader stealing its ideas/premise]]".

Added: 1053

Changed: 2325

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BrokenBase: [[FandomRivalry Shared with]] ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', saying that ''Battleborn'' and ''Overwatch'' are similar can set some people off. Ultimately, the only real similarities between the games are the FPS-gameplay focus and the cast of characters with varied and colorful personalities and gameplay styles, but everything else about them, from how they handle PVP to character progression, makes them about as different as apples and oranges. Claiming further similarities will have people correcting you, agreeing with you, and/or starting an argument about which game is "better".



** Pendles, the second anounced DLC character, got a fandom in zero point zero seconds, it seems.
* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated-prior-to-release team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]
** Despite various videos imed at pointing out the differences, Battleborn seems to be getting a lot of hate from the Overwatch fandom on social media, usually in the form of FollowTheLeader and StopHavingFunGuys accusations.
* HoYay: The entire cast, although in some cases it seems to be one-way (such as Oscar Mike's crush on Whiskey Foxtrot, as shown in one of the latter's taunts). The most popular (and obvious) pairings at game launch are Deande[=/=]Mellka, Oscar[=/=]Montana, Ambra[=/=]Galilea[[note]]arguably, the only canon one, judging by their backstories[[/note]] and Rath[=/=]Caldarius. There's also the issue of Miko[=/=]Kelvin, as neither is, well, gendered.

to:

** Pendles, a snake man who happens to be the second anounced announced DLC character, got a fandom in zero point zero seconds, it seems.
* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated-prior-to-release team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to have come about for a couple of reasons:
** Much of it comes
from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is wasn't helped by the fact that many of the pre-release trailers for both games were largely character-focused, and despite ''Battleborn''[='s=] Bootcamp Trailer (and others) including explanations of the game modes alongside the characters, it seems that the most people gleaned from the trailers was that both games were FPS games with a bunch of characters to play with.
** The
two games having actually have very different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.elements). But even with [[[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]
** Despite
various videos imed aimed at pointing out the differences, Battleborn seems to be getting a lot of differences,]] ''Battleborn'' continually receives hate from the Overwatch ''Overwatch'' fandom on social media, usually in the form of FollowTheLeader and StopHavingFunGuys accusations.
accusations. This coincides with another reason the rivalry exists: that ''Overwatch'' happens to be much more prominent in marketing compared to ''Battleborn'' makes the former seem to overshadow the latter by a wide margin. This has led to fans of either game accusing the other of "[[SpotlightStealingSquad stealing its spotlight]]" and/or "[[FollowTheLeader stealing its ideas/premise]]".
* HoYay: HoYay:
**
The entire cast, although in some cases it seems to be one-way (such as Oscar Mike's crush on Whiskey Foxtrot, as shown in one of the latter's taunts). The most popular (and obvious) pairings at game launch are Deande[=/=]Mellka, Oscar[=/=]Montana, Ambra[=/=]Galilea[[note]]arguably, the only canon one, judging by their backstories[[/note]] and Rath[=/=]Caldarius. There's also the issue of Miko[=/=]Kelvin, as neither is, well, gendered.

Added: 1056

Changed: 178

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CargoShip: It's implied Phoebe may be {{Robosexual}}, as she admires both ISIC's "muscular" frame and Caldarius's exo-armor. In one dialogue path during The Renegade, she practically admits "having a thing for killer robots".



** Pendles, the second anounced DLC character, got a fandom in zero point zero seconds, it seems.



** For a game not even mentioned on Videogame/{{Overwatch}}'s page, Battleborn seems to be getting a lot of hate from its fandom on social media.

to:

** For a game not even mentioned on Videogame/{{Overwatch}}'s page, Despite various videos imed at pointing out the differences, Battleborn seems to be getting a lot of hate from its the Overwatch fandom on social media.media, usually in the form of FollowTheLeader and StopHavingFunGuys accusations.



* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for its difficulty, often regarded as impossible without a near-perfect group. After the hotfix, while the mission is still quite difficult, it is at least possible for most groups.

to:

* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for its difficulty, often regarded as impossible without a near-perfect group. After the hotfix, while the mission is still quite difficult, it is at least possible for most groups.groups.
* TierInducedScrappy:
** Ambra got a lot of hate in the Open Beta due to her ability to mess up an uncoordinated enemy team on her own. Ambra-made pentakills were not a rarity. This has died down in the full release once people figured out how to counter her.
** Shayne and Aurox are seen either as the worst or best characters to play, depending on whether the poster understands how their stealth attack works. Fetch is also an efficient foil to many campers.
** Nobody seems to play El Dragon in competitive matches despite him being easy to unlock and being devastating at CC.
** ISIC and Miko both received complaints during the Beta about being impossible to kill, both received {{Nerf}}s, turning ISIC into more of a GlassCannon.

Added: 1010

Changed: 852

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Now that the full game is out, it is in full swing with people outright abandoning PvP games where non-Beta maps are voted in.
** For story mode, Saboteur and Renegade seem to be preferred to the exclusion of others. Want a party for Advanced play of some other map? You better bring your own!



* HoYay: The entire cast. The fandom seems to not have created a single het ship. The most popular (and obvious) pairings at game launch are Deande[=/=]Mellka, Oscar[=/=]Montana, Ambra[=/=]Galilea[[note]]arguably, the only canon one, judging by their backstories[[/note]] and Rath[=/=]Caldarius.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Going by the fanart, Oscar Mike. He's been shipped with Montana (due to backstory), ISIC (they synergise in combat well), and El Dragon (because of the trailer) whereas most other characters have one pairing at best, if at all.

to:

** For a game not even mentioned on Videogame/{{Overwatch}}'s page, Battleborn seems to be getting a lot of hate from its fandom on social media.
* HoYay: The entire cast. The fandom cast, although in some cases it seems to not have created a single het ship. be one-way (such as Oscar Mike's crush on Whiskey Foxtrot, as shown in one of the latter's taunts). The most popular (and obvious) pairings at game launch are Deande[=/=]Mellka, Oscar[=/=]Montana, Ambra[=/=]Galilea[[note]]arguably, the only canon one, judging by their backstories[[/note]] and Rath[=/=]Caldarius.
Rath[=/=]Caldarius. There's also the issue of Miko[=/=]Kelvin, as neither is, well, gendered.
** The release of the first additional character, Alani, and her Lore reveals, added another ship to the list, as she seems to be into Galilea.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Going by the fanart, Oscar Mike. He's been shipped with Montana (due to backstory), ISIC (they synergise in combat well), Whiskey Foxtrot (he has a crush on the older clone, and Lore and one of Whiskey's taunts show it's not reciprocated) and El Dragon (because of the trailer) whereas most other characters have one pairing at best, if at all.


Added DiffLines:

* OlderThanTheyThink: Despite vocal accusations of being a FollowTheLeader of Videogame/{{Overwatch}}, it was announced a whole two months earlier, and presented first gameplay videos equally earlier.

Added: 136

Changed: 414

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Geoff, aka Arachnis the Spider King.
** On the playable character side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular. Possibly also Oscar Mike, given his status as the LauncherOfAThousandShips.
** Nova has become very popular a dev even mentioned they've been getting a lot of requests for her to be turned into a DLC character.

to:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
**
Geoff, aka Arachnis the Spider King.
** On the playable character side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular. Possibly There's also Oscar Mike, given his status as the LauncherOfAThousandShips.
** Nova has become very popular a Nova, your assistant AI. A dev even mentioned that they've been getting a lot of requests for her to be turned into a DLC character.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Going by the fanart, Oscar Mike. He's been shipped with Montana (due to backstory), ISIC (they synergise in combat well), El Dragon (because of the trailer) whereas most other characters have one pairing at best, if at all.

to:

* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Going by the fanart, Oscar Mike. He's been shipped with Montana (due to backstory), ISIC (they synergise in combat well), and El Dragon (because of the trailer) whereas most other characters have one pairing at best, if at all.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for its difficulty.

to:

* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for its difficulty.difficulty, often regarded as impossible without a near-perfect group. After the hotfix, while the mission is still quite difficult, it is at least possible for most groups.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
They are playable characters, but they aren't main characters. The story missions do not really focus on any of them. Ensemble Darkhorse still applies.

Added DiffLines:

** On the playable character side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular. Possibly also Oscar Mike, given his status as the LauncherOfAThousandShips.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
That's not the entire reasoning behind the ship, especially since Mellka and Deande are getting along just fine by the final mission.


* FoeYay: The reasoning behind the Deande[=/=]Mellka ship, despite the latter throwing racist remarks at the former throughout the Prologue.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
adding example.

Added DiffLines:

** Nova has become very popular a dev even mentioned they've been getting a lot of requests for her to be turned into a DLC character.

Added: 105

Changed: 272

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for it's difficulty.

to:

* LoveItOrHateIt: The humor, carrying over the general opinions from ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands}}''. It's either really funny and full of personality, or stale memes and regurgitated pop culture references repeated at and in obnoxious volume.
* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur was infamous in the fandom for it's its difficulty.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
all main characters.


** On the playablecharacter side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular. Possibly also Oscar Mike, given his status as the LauncherOfAThousandShips.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** On the playablecharacter side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular.

to:

** On the playablecharacter side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular. Possibly also Oscar Mike, given his status as the LauncherOfAThousandShips.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ThatOneLevel: The Saboteur is already infamous in the fandom for it's difficulty.

to:

* ThatOneLevel: Prior to the May 12th Hotfix, The Saboteur is already was infamous in the fandom for it's difficulty.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FoeYay: The reasoning behind the Deande[=/=]Mellka ship, despite the latter throwing racist remarks at the former throughout the Prologue.
* HoYay: The entire cast. The fandom seems to not have created a single het ship. The most popular (and obvious) pairings at game launch are Deande[=/=]Mellka, Oscar[=/=]Montana, Ambra[=/=]Galilea[[note]]arguably, the only canon one, judging by their backstories[[/note]] and Rath[=/=]Caldarius.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Going by the fanart, Oscar Mike. He's been shipped with Montana (due to backstory), ISIC (they synergise in combat well), El Dragon (because of the trailer) whereas most other characters have one pairing at best, if at all.

Added: 82

Changed: -2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
adding example.


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated-prior-to-release team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated-prior-to-release team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]]]
*ThatOneLevel: The Saboteur is already infamous in the fandom for it's difficulty.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
adding example.

Added DiffLines:

** On the playablecharacter side of things, Rath and Shayne & Aurox seem to be very popular.

Changed: 17

Removed: 292

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This isn't a YMMV trope. Moving to the main page.


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (Both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]
* SharedUniverse: As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture after ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated anticipated-prior-to-release team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (Both (both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]
* SharedUniverse: As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture after ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].
]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (Both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (Both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMGrDUSGJU For an overview of the differences, go here.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I'm having a hard time even understanding what this entry is trying to say.


* BrokenBase: Knowingly being the creator of the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series, having a game that differs completely from another with an already settled universe to work with can be a let-down to Borderlands fans and is sensitive to the idea of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. Gearbox alleviated the some of the regression with a response that Borderlands is a change for something better, much like Battleborn is attempted to be, as Borderlands wouldn't be a success if such a change never had happened from the first place. [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Some people may disagree with it]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Geoff, aka Arachnis the Spider King.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' (Both have {{MOBA}}-like characters, but ''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala à la ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SharedUniverse: As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].

to:

* SharedUniverse: As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture after ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].

Changed: 1575

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].
* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).

to:

** As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].
* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).elements).
* SharedUniverse: As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BrokenBase: Knowingly being the creator of the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series, having a game that differs completely from another with an already settled universe to work with can be a let-down to Borderlands fans and is sensitive to the idea of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. Gearbox alleviated the some of the regression with a response that Borderlands is a change for something better, much like Battleborn is attempted to be, as Borderlands wouldn't be a success if such a change never had happened from the first place. [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Some people may disagree with it]].
** As far as it's known, Battleborn is not TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture especially when characters are more than 20,000 years old and having Borderlands as part of its timeline [[ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway may not be a bit of a stretch]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AbridgedArenaArray: Overgrowth for the Open Beta. By the end of the beta period, you'd be hard-pressed to find non-newbie players in Story Mode or the other Versus Mode map.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being promoted and released at around the same time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the two games having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Word Cruft and adding some detail.


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time. That being said, the actual ''gameplay'' of two games are significantly different.

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, characters and a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Most of it seems to come from the two games being released at around the same time. That being said, time[[note]]''Overwatch''[='s=] first open beta phase even coincided with ''Battleborn''[='s=] release date.[[/note]]. This is despite the actual ''gameplay'' of two games are significantly different.having different gameplay experiences (''Overwatch'' is a more traditional FPS with a focus on team-play ala ''Team Fortress'', while ''Battleborn'' blends the {{MOBA}} genre with many {{FPS}} elements).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time.

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time. That being said, the actual ''gameplay'' of two games are significantly different.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time.

to:

* FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

FandomRivalry: With ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', another anticipated team-focused FPS by Creator/BlizzardEntertainment, thanks to both games featuring a slew of interesting characters, a cartoon-esque style equated to Creator/{{Pixar}} and ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', as well as being released at around the same time.

Top