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Wrong-way hindsight and actor trivia


* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BillyBobThornton once mentioned having a fear of little people (even featuring them to create disorientation in his ''Film/SlingBlade''). Guess who he's paired with in this movie?
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* ValuesDissonance: Willie’s sexual behavior at the mall in the Women’s Big & Tall and the video arcade would be getting him many complaints of sexual harassment from mall patrons in this day and age compared to being barely tolerated back in 2003.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Willie's constant swearing at children.

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Willie's constant swearing at children.



* InformedWrongness: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.
** Also, while it doesn't justify him [[spoiler:trying to kill Willie,]] it's hard not to agree with Marcus that Willie's reckless and unprofessional behavior has made him more of a liability than anything else, and that without him their plans would go nowhere. Willie's actions throughout the film almost caused them both to be arrested on several occasions, almost caused them to be fired, and allowed them to be blackmailed by Gin. [[spoiler:The fact that Willie had already sent a letter reporting the job to the police and forgot about it only drives the point further.]]

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When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.
** Also, while While it doesn't justify him [[spoiler:trying to kill Willie,]] it's hard not to agree with Marcus that Willie's reckless and unprofessional behavior has made him more of a liability than anything else, and that without him their plans would go nowhere. Willie's actions throughout the film almost caused them both to be arrested on several occasions, almost caused them to be fired, and allowed them to be blackmailed by Gin. [[spoiler:The fact that Willie had already sent a letter reporting the job to the police and forgot about it only drives the point further.]]
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* JerkassHasAPoint: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: InformedWrongness: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.

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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), his mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, he's in a precarious financial state, and he has an {{Unfortunate Name|s}}.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), his mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, embezzlement and he's in a precarious financial state, and he has an {{Unfortunate Name|s}}.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Also common, as in the end it really is a movie about the spirit of Christmas. Although Willie loses his temper around Thurman quite frequently, he really does love him, even if he would never admit it.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Also common, as in the end it really is a movie about the spirit of Christmas. Although Willie loses his temper around Thurman quite frequently, he really does grow to love him, even if he would never admit it.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.
** Also, while it doesn't justify him [[spoiler:trying to kill Willie,]] it's hard not to agree with Marcus that Willie's reckless and unprofessional behavior has made him more of a liability than anything else, and that without him their plans would go nowhere. Willie's actions throughout the film almost caused them both to be arrested on several occasions, almost caused them to be fired, and allowed them to be blackmailed by Gin. [[spoiler:The fact that Willie had already sent a letter reporting the job to the police and forgot about it only drives the point further.]]



* StrawmanHasAPoint: When Willie is eating lunch in the food court, a woman encourages her son to climb on his lap and tell him what he wants for Christmas. Willie yells "I'M ON MY [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING]] LUNCH BREAK!", and we're meant to see it as another example of Willie being [[ChildHater horrible with kids.]] While he did go way overboard, he was off the clock, only in partial costume and had every right to not be bothered by a [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] mother who thought it was okay to crash in on his lunch demanding special treatment for her son.
** Also, while it doesn't justify him [[spoiler:trying to kill Willie,]] it's hard not to agree with Marcus that Willie's reckless and unprofessional behavior has made him more of a liability than anything else, and that without him their plans would go nowhere. Willie's actions throughout the film almost caused them both to be arrested on several occasions, almost caused them to be fired, and allowed them to be blackmailed by Gin.
*** The latter was perhaps what drove Marcus to not only betray Willie but also attempt to kill him.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), his mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, he's in a precarious financial state and he has an UnfortunateName.

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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), his mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, he's in a precarious financial state state, and he has an UnfortunateName.{{Unfortunate Name|s}}.
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** "You ain't gonna shit right for a week!"
** Willy offhandedly tells Marcus that he cornholed Thurman's grandma.
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%%* ValuesDissonance: Willie’s sexual behavior at the mall in the Women’s Big & Tall and the video arcade would be getting him many complaints of sexual harassment from mall patrons in this day and age compared to being barely tolerated back in 2003.
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* ValuesDissonance: Willie’s sexual behavior at the mall in the Women’s Big & Tall and the video arcade would be getting him many complaints of sexual harassment from mall patrons in this day and age compared to being barely tolerated back in 2003.

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* %%* ValuesDissonance: Willie’s sexual behavior at the mall in the Women’s Big & Tall and the video arcade would be getting him many complaints of sexual harassment from mall patrons in this day and age compared to being barely tolerated back in 2003.
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* ValuesDissonance: Willie’s sexual behavior at the mall in the Women’s Big & Tall and the video arcade would be getting him many complaints of sexual harassment from mall patrons in this day and age compared to being barely tolerated back in 2003.
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* DirectorDisplacement: The film was executive-produced by Creator/TheCoenBrothers, yet it's a Terry Zwigoff film.

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* DirectorDisplacement: The film was executive-produced by Creator/TheCoenBrothers, Creator/TheCoenBrothers (who also did uncredited re-writes), yet it's a Terry Zwigoff Creator/TerryZwigoff film.
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* DirectorDisplacement: The film was executive-produced by Creator/TheCoenBrothers, yet it's a Terry Zwigoff film.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), her mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, he's in a precarious financial state and he has an UnfortunateName.

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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Thurman Merman]]. He's a lonely kid who's constantly bullied by a bunch of cruel teens ForTheEvulz, he lives with his senile dementia grandmother ([[spoiler:she dies in car accident in the sequel]]), her his mother is dead for unknown reasons, his father is in jail for embezzlement, he's in a precarious financial state and he has an UnfortunateName.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Also common, as in the end it really is a movie about the spirit of Christmas. Although Willie loses his temper around Thurman quite frequently, he really does love him, even if he would never admit it.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Also common, as in the end it really is a movie about the spirit of Christmas. Although Willie loses his temper around Thurman quite frequently, he really does love him, even if he would never admit it.

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