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** As grim and serious as Cates' run has been so far, ''Absolute Carnage #1'' gives us a much-needed dose of levity the instant ComicBook/SpiderMan enters the picture. Poor Peter reminds us how much [[ComicBook/MaximumCarnage he]] [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom hates]] [[ComicBook/{{Venomized}} symbiote]] [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging stuff]] and ribs Brock for getting himself wrapped up in the current story.

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** As grim and serious as Cates' run has been so far, ''Absolute Carnage #1'' gives us a much-needed dose of levity the instant ComicBook/SpiderMan enters the picture. Poor Peter reminds us how much [[ComicBook/MaximumCarnage he]] [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom [[ComicBook/VenomMikeCosta hates]] [[ComicBook/{{Venomized}} symbiote]] [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging stuff]] and ribs Brock for getting himself wrapped up in the current story.
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** In ''Absolute Carnage vs. Deadpool'', the editorial boxes get into an argument over if ''ComicBook/DeadpoolBackInBlack'' counts as canon.
** In ''Absolute Carnage: Immortal Hulk'', we get a look inside Bruce Banner's mind. Joe Fixit turns up, but due to circumstances doesn't look like his normal self. Instead, he looks like Bruce dressed up like a Vegas scuzzball. Meanwhile, Savage Hulk's only contribution to discussions is to yell at Bruce over what's happened with Betty Ross and stomp off in a sulk.

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** In ''Absolute Carnage vs. Deadpool'', the editorial boxes get into an argument over if whether ''ComicBook/DeadpoolBackInBlack'' counts as canon.
** In ''Absolute Carnage: Immortal Hulk'', we get a look inside Bruce Banner's mind. Joe Fixit turns up, but due to circumstances doesn't look like his normal self. Instead, he looks like Bruce dressed up like a Vegas scuzzball. Meanwhile, Savage Hulk's only contribution to discussions is to yell at Bruce and the Venom symbiote over what's happened with Betty Ross and stomp off in a sulk.
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*** Midway through their chat, a group of crooks burst through the door of the cafe trying to rob the place... only to find themselves [[MuggingTheMonster in front of Spider-Man and "escaped convict" Eddie Brock.]] Spidey trounces them off-panel [[CasualDangerDialogue while the pair of them continue the conversation like nothing's happened.]]

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*** Midway through their chat, a group of crooks burst through the door of the cafe trying to rob the place... only to find themselves [[MuggingTheMonster in front of Spider-Man and "escaped convict" Eddie Brock.]] Brock]]. Spidey trounces them off-panel [[CasualDangerDialogue while the pair of them continue the their conversation like nothing's happened.]]

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** In a bit of Fridge Humor, The Maker expressed a distaste for acronyms, seeing them as childish. In ''ComicBook/NewAvengers2015'', though, he had no problem with leading W.H.I.S.P.E.R. It makes it seem like he's salty about O.M.N.I.T.R.O.N.I.C.U.S., his attempt to replicate City who much to his annoyance gained an incredibly hammy personality because Earth-616 has looser scientific laws.



** Tel-Kar, another villian of Costa’s that’s largely reviled by fans for his actions, is revealed in ''Venom'' #18 to have died at some point during Sleeper's interstellar travels.

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** Tel-Kar, another villian villain of Costa’s that’s largely reviled by fans for his actions, is revealed in ''Venom'' #18 to have died at some point during Sleeper's interstellar travels.
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*** Midway through their chat, a group of crooks burst through the door of the cafe trying to rob the place... only to find themselves [[MuggingTheMonster in front of Spider-Man and "escaped convict" Eddie Brock.]] Spidey trounces them off-panel [[CasualDangerDialogue while the pair of them continue the conversation like nothing's happened.]]
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** The death of [[spoiler:Ghost Rider Alejandra Jones, who was just trying to protect her village from Dark Carnage]].

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** The death [[StuffedInTheFridge death]] of [[spoiler:Ghost Rider Alejandra Jones, who was just trying to protect her village from Dark Carnage]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Miles Morales' tie-in ended with him gaining control of his symbiote, implying that he was going to use his new-found power to take the fight back to Knull. When he finally appeared again in the main series proper, Miles is no longer in control of his symbiote and Eddie is forced to separate him from it.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Miles Morales' tie-in ended with him gaining control of his symbiote, implying that he was going to use his new-found power to take the fight back to Knull. When he finally appeared again in the main series proper, Miles is no longer in control of his symbiote and Eddie is forced to separate him from it. When asked about this, Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman mentioned that they weren't informed how the ''Miles Morales'' tie-in was going to end, so they just went ahead with their own plans.
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** The Separation Anxiety tie in as a whole is this, a little girl named Sadie is sitting outside of her house to get away from her parents arguing when the dog that hosts Hybrid walks up to her and she tearfully vents to it on how her parents' divorce is tearing her family apart and wishes her family could stay together before inviting the dog inside. However, this turns out to be a mistake as the now Knull-corrupted Life Foundation symbiotes slowly take over her entire family one by one in a twisted yet honest attempt to grant Sadie's wish.

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** The Separation Anxiety ''Separation Anxiety'' tie in as a whole is this, a little girl named Sadie is sitting outside of her house to get away from her parents arguing when the dog that hosts Hybrid walks up to her and she tearfully vents to it on how her parents' divorce is tearing her family apart and wishes her family could stay together before inviting the dog inside. However, this turns out to be a mistake as the now Knull-corrupted Life Foundation symbiotes slowly take over her entire family one by one in a twisted yet honest attempt to grant Sadie's wish.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Miles Morales' tie-in ended with him gaining control of his symbiote, implying that he was going to use his new-found power to take the fight back to Knull. When he finally appeared again in the main series proper, Miles is no longer in control of his symbiote and Eddie is forced to separate him from it.
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** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominos that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, being pummeled by the criminals he put away, and learning he has terminal cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.

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** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominos DisasterDominoes that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, being pummeled by the criminals he put away, and learning he has terminal cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.
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** Eddie recounts [[spoiler losing Miles to the Grendel symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]], though Donny Cates stated on Twitter that he'd scripted them before the movie came out.

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** Eddie recounts [[spoiler [[spoiler: losing Miles to the Grendel symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]], though Donny Cates stated on Twitter that he'd scripted them before the movie came out.
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** White Rabbit herself, not having meant to kill the man and repeatedly trying to revive him instead of trying to escape before cops arrive.

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** White Rabbit herself, not having meant to kill the man and repeatedly trying to revive him instead of trying to escape before cops arrive. However, White Rabbit's cheerfully sadistic reaction to Elkhart accidentally killing a court recorder while trying to shoot her calls into question how much of her remorse was genuine.



** The death of [[spoiler: Ghost Rider Alejandra]].
** Eddie recounts [[spoiler: losing Miles to the Grendel symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]], though Donny Cates stated on Twitter that he'd scripted them before the movie came out.

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** The death of [[spoiler: Ghost [[spoiler:Ghost Rider Alejandra]].
Alejandra Jones, who was just trying to protect her village from Dark Carnage]].
** Eddie recounts [[spoiler: [[spoiler losing Miles to the Grendel symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]], though Donny Cates stated on Twitter that he'd scripted them before the movie came out.



** From the ''Separation Anxiety'' tie in, a little girl named Sadie -- who just wanted her family to stay together -- is forced to lose her family members one by one to the Life Foundation symbiotes before being forced to become the new Lasher. And even after being freed, she is subjected to the Maker's excruciatingly painful codex extraction process.

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** From the ''Separation Anxiety'' tie in, a little girl named Sadie -- who just wanted her family to stay together -- is forced to lose her family members one by one to the Life Foundation symbiotes before being forced to become the new Lasher. And After temporarily freeing her from the Lasher symbiote, the Maker sadistically tries to shoot her point-blank with a {{BFG}}; and even after being freed, she is subjected to the Maker's excruciatingly painful codex extraction process.
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** In ''Absolute Carnage: Immortal Hulk'', we get a look inside Bruce Banner's mind. Joe Fixit turns up, but due to circumstances doesn't look like his normal self. Instead, he looks like Bruce dressed up like a Vegas scuzzball. Meanwhile, Savage Hulk's only contribution to discussions is to yell at Bruce over what's happened with Betty Ross and stomp off in a sulk.
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** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominios that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, being pummeled by the criminals he put away, and learning he has terminal cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.

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** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominios DisasterDominos that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, being pummeled by the criminals he put away, and learning he has terminal cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.
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** Eddie recounts [[spoiler: losing Miles to the Carnage symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]].
--> ''[[spoiler: [[Film/AvengersEndgame I lost the kid.]]]]''

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** Eddie recounts [[spoiler: losing Miles to the Carnage Grendel symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]].
--> ''[[spoiler: [[Film/AvengersEndgame
words]], though Donny Cates stated on Twitter that he'd scripted them before the movie came out.
---> ''[[spoiler:[[Film/AvengersEndgame
I lost the kid.]]]]''
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** Eddie recounts [[spoiler: losing Miles to the Carnage symbiote]] with four simple, [[MythologyGag rather familiar words]].
--> ''[[spoiler: [[Film/AvengersEndgame I lost the kid.]]]]''

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** Eddie goes through some very real adult fear as Dylan’s safety is put on the line.



** Tel-Kar, another character of Mike Costa's that was largely disliked by the fanbase, is revealed in ''Venom'' #18 to have died at some point during Sleeper's interstellar travels.

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** Tel-Kar, another character villian of Mike Costa's that was Costa’s that’s largely disliked reviled by the fanbase, fans for his actions, is revealed in ''Venom'' #18 to have died at some point during Sleeper's interstellar travels.


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** White Rabbit herself, not having meant to kill the man and repeatedly trying to revive him instead of trying to escape before cops arrive.
** A father has his daughter’s grave defiled by Carnage digging up the deceased little girl to steal her symbiote codex.
** The death of [[spoiler: Ghost Rider Alejandra]].
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** Andi Benton, who went through a lot already prior to the series and continues to catch no breaks, other than Mania at least ''trying'' to warn Eddie of Carnage.

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** Andi Benton, who went through a lot already prior to the series and continues to catch no breaks, other than Mania at least ''trying'' to warn Eddie of Carnage.

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* FridgeLogic: Why was Lee Price with Mania still bonded, in the same prison as "Eddie" and other regular level general populace prisoners? In Marvel, prisoners with such help like symbiotes ''still'' currently bonded to them (if they’re seperated then they can and have sometimes been in regular places), are typically kept in very different accomodations that are actually specifically equipped to deal with them.
** This troper believes that it was suitable to keep Lee detained with regular inmates because his symbiote was heavily weakened by Agent Anti-Venom in ''Venom Inc.'', being unable to manifest its powers.

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* FridgeLogic: Why was Lee Price with Mania still bonded, in the same prison as "Eddie" and other regular level general populace prisoners? In Marvel, prisoners with such help like symbiotes ''still'' currently bonded to them (if they’re seperated then they can and have sometimes been in regular places), are typically kept in very different accomodations that are actually specifically equipped to deal with them.
** This troper believes
them. Some fans have speculated that it was suitable to keep Lee detained with regular inmates because his symbiote was heavily weakened by Agent Anti-Venom in ''Venom Inc.'', being unable to manifest its powers.



-->'''Eddie:''' Can you help us or not?\\

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-->'''Eddie:''' --->'''Eddie:''' Can you help us or not?\\



** In ''Absolute Carnage vs. Deadpool'', the editorial boxes get into an argument over if ''ComicBook/DeadpoolBackInBlack'' counts.

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** In ''Absolute Carnage vs. Deadpool'', the editorial boxes get into an argument over if ''ComicBook/DeadpoolBackInBlack'' counts.counts as canon.



* TakeThatScrappy: Lee Price was unceremoniously killed off by Carnage in ''Free Comic Book Day Vol. 2019 (Spider-Man/Venom)'', leaving his many detractors gloating over who the superior symbiote supervillain was.
--> '''Dylan:''' Who's Lee Price?\\

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* TakeThatScrappy: TakeThatScrappy:
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Lee Price was unceremoniously killed off by Carnage in ''Free Comic Book Day Vol. 2019 (Spider-Man/Venom)'', leaving his many detractors gloating over who the superior symbiote supervillain was.
--> ---> '''Dylan:''' Who's Lee Price?\\



** Tel-Kar, another character of Mike Costa's that was largely disliked by the fanbase, is revealed in ''Venom'' #18 to have died at some point during Sleeper's interstellar travels.



** The Separation Anxiety tie in as a whole is this, a little girl named Sadie is sitting outside of her house to get away from her parents arguing when the dog that hosts Hybrid walks up to her and she tearfully vents to it on how her parents' divorce is tearing her family apart and wishes her family could stay together before inviting the dog inside. However this turns out to be a mistake as the now Knull corrupted Life Foundation symbiotes slowly take over her entire family one by one in a twisted yet honest attempt to grant Sadie's wish.
** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominios that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, pummeled by the criminals he put away and learning he has cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.

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** The Separation Anxiety tie in as a whole is this, a little girl named Sadie is sitting outside of her house to get away from her parents arguing when the dog that hosts Hybrid walks up to her and she tearfully vents to it on how her parents' divorce is tearing her family apart and wishes her family could stay together before inviting the dog inside. However However, this turns out to be a mistake as the now Knull corrupted Knull-corrupted Life Foundation symbiotes slowly take over her entire family one by one in a twisted yet honest attempt to grant Sadie's wish.
** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominios that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, being pummeled by the criminals he put away away, and learning he has terminal cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.



** Subverted with Cletus as while it was [[AmbiguousSituation unclear]] at first whether he was in control of himself due to his body being a corpse, Donny has clarified that Cletus is still the one in control but has become a undead like the Sin Eater.
* TheWoobie: Andi Benton, who went through a lot already prior to the series and continues to catch no breaks, other than Mania at least ''trying'' to warn Eddie of Carnage.
** From the Separation Anxiety tie in a little girl named Sadie, who just wanted her family to stay together, is forced to lose her family members one by one to the Life Foundation symbiotes before being forced to become the new Lasher.

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** Subverted with Cletus as while it was [[AmbiguousSituation unclear]] at first whether he was in control of himself due to his body being a corpse, Donny has clarified that Cletus is still the one in control but has become a undead like the Sin Eater.
Sin-Eater.
* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Andi Benton, who went through a lot already prior to the series and continues to catch no breaks, other than Mania at least ''trying'' to warn Eddie of Carnage.
** From the Separation Anxiety ''Separation Anxiety'' tie in in, a little girl named Sadie, Sadie -- who just wanted her family to stay together, together -- is forced to lose her family members one by one to the Life Foundation symbiotes before being forced to become the new Lasher.Lasher. And even after being freed, she is subjected to the Maker's excruciatingly painful codex extraction process.
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** The ''Symbiote Spider-Man'' one-shot gives us former judge Leonard Elkhart, the tourist who bonded with the Venom symbiote after it escaped the Four Freedoms Plaza. Thanks to the moment he spent bonded, it ends up triggering a set of DisasterDominios that end up with his son accidentally killed by the White Rabbit, the former judge in jail after he accidentally murders a court recorder, pummeled by the criminals he put away and learning he has cancer. By the time Carnage drops in, [[DeathSeeker he's ready to die]] for everything.

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: As grim and serious as Cates' run has been so far, ''Absolute Carnage #1'' gives us a much-needed dose of levity the instant ComicBook/SpiderMan enters the picture. Poor Peter reminds us how much [[ComicBook/MaximumCarnage he]] [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom hates]] [[ComicBook/{{Venomized}} symbiote]] [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging stuff]] and ribs Brock for getting himself wrapped up in the current story.

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: As SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
**As
grim and serious as Cates' run has been so far, ''Absolute Carnage #1'' gives us a much-needed dose of levity the instant ComicBook/SpiderMan enters the picture. Poor Peter reminds us how much [[ComicBook/MaximumCarnage he]] [[ComicBook/MikeCostasVenom hates]] [[ComicBook/{{Venomized}} symbiote]] [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging stuff]] and ribs Brock for getting himself wrapped up in the current story.


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** In ''Absolute Carnage vs. Deadpool'', the editorial boxes get into an argument over if ''ComicBook/DeadpoolBackInBlack'' counts.

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