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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point, Thorpe opines that even if the affair brings him down, the Liberal Party is in the safe hands of upstanding fellows like Cyril Smith. Smith was infamously accused (posthumously) of multiple offences against children in care homes during the seventies.
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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point, Thorpe opines that even if the affair brings him down, the Liberal Party is in the safe hands of upstanding fellows like Cyril Smith. Smith and Clement Freud. Smith was infamously accused (posthumously) of multiple offences against children in care homes during the seventies.seventies, while Freud was accused (also posthumously) of multiple sexual offences against girls and young women.
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* AwardSnub: Despite sweeping the entire awards circuit, the Screen Actors Guild Awards snubbed Ben Whishaw, though nominated Hugh Grant in the category.[[note]]There are no supporting categories for these awards, where Whishaw had been nominated and campaigned, whereas Grant had been campaigned in lead.[[/note]]
* AuthorTract: Both the original book, and the adaption, clearly thinks that Thorpe did it and sympathise with Norman, though the general public opinion is... murky at best. Thorpe managed to repair his reputation before he died, at least with his own party, and when the evidence was re-examined back in the 2010's it was decided not to re-open it. (suggesting that, whether the allegation was true or not, the trial was bad idea from the start)
* AuthorTract: Both the original book, and the adaption, clearly thinks that Thorpe did it and sympathise with Norman, though the general public opinion is... murky at best. Thorpe managed to repair his reputation before he died, at least with his own party, and when the evidence was re-examined back in the 2010's it was decided not to re-open it. (suggesting that, whether the allegation was true or not, the trial was bad idea from the start)
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* AwardSnub: Despite sweeping the entire awards circuit, the Screen Actors Guild Awards snubbed Ben Whishaw, Creator/BenWhishaw, though nominated Hugh Grant Creator/HughGrant in the category.[[note]]There are no supporting categories for these awards, where Whishaw had been nominated and campaigned, whereas Grant had been campaigned in lead.[[/note]]
* AuthorTract: Both the original book, and the adaption, clearly thinks that Thorpe did it and sympathise with Norman, though the general public opinion is... murky at best. Thorpe managed to repair his reputation before he died, at least with his own party, and when the evidence was re-examined back in the 2010's it was decided not to re-open it. (suggesting that, whether the allegation was true or not, the trial was bad idea from the start)[[/note]]
* AuthorTract: Both the original book, and the adaption, clearly thinks that Thorpe did it and sympathise with Norman, though the general public opinion is... murky at best. Thorpe managed to repair his reputation before he died, at least with his own party, and when the evidence was re-examined back in the 2010's it was decided not to re-open it. (suggesting that, whether the allegation was true or not, the trial was bad idea from the start)
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* HilariousInHindsight: Whishaw played Grant's lover (well, ''wife'') in one timeline of Film/CloudAtlas, and Grant was the villain opposite Whishaw's Paddington in Film/Paddington2; here, Grant is a synthesis of both. (Grant jokingly referred to Thorpe's treatment of Norman in the series as "revenge" against Whishaw for his character's victory in the ''Paddington 2.'')
* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Whishaw Creator/BenWhishaw played Grant's Creator/HughGrant's lover (well, ''wife'') in one timeline of Film/CloudAtlas, and Grant was the villain opposite Whishaw's Paddington in Film/Paddington2; ''Film/Paddington2''; here, Grant is a synthesis of both. (Grant jokingly referred to Thorpe's treatment of Norman in the series as "revenge" against Whishaw for his character's victory in the ''Paddington 2.'')
* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in theend.end.
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.end.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog Rinka get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
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* HarsherInHindsight: At one point, Thorpe opines that even if the affair brings him down, the Liberal Party is in the safe hands of upstanding fellows like Cyril Smith. Smith was infamously accused (posthumously) of multiple offences against children in care homes during the seventies.
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* AuthorTract: Both the original book, and the adaption, clearly thinks that Thorpe did it and sympathise with Norman, though the general public opinion is... murky at best. Thorpe managed to repair his reputation before he died, at least with his own party, and when the evidence was re-examined back in the 2010's it was decided not to re-open it. (suggesting that, whether the allegation was true or not, the trial was bad idea from the start)
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* AwardSnub: Despite sweeping the entire awards circuit, the Screen Actors Guild Awards snubbed Ben Whishaw, though nominated Hugh Grant in the category.[[note]]There are no supporting categories for these awards, where Whishaw had been nominated and campaigned, whereas Grant had been campaigned in lead.[[/note]]
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* IronWoobie: Norman. He's frequently mistreated at work, is too unstable to hold down a modeling job he enjoys, and has a short, unhappy marriage with a girl whose father hates him, and who later leaves with their child; during all of this, he has to witness Thorpe's public, successful political rise and happy marriage and family. Then Thorpe tries to have him killed (and watches his beloved dog get shot in front of him), and Thorpe gets away with everything. Despite all of this, he's a {{Determinator}} who refuses to be silenced or waste away in the darkness, and he manages to outlive the crumbling, disgraced Thorpe in the end.
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* CryForTheDevil: Thorpe reminisces over his other attempts at finding male lovers, which usually ended poorly (the lover beating him or having a moment of "gay panic", robbing him, etc.); despite every terrible thing he's done to Norman, he ''is'' vulnerable when it comes to his personal life.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Andrew Newton is released from prison, he demands £75,000 from the first reporter he sees. When the reporter says he can offer £3000, Newton immediately says it's a deal.
* HilariousInHindsight: Whishaw played Grant's lover (well, ''wife'') in one timeline of Film/CloudAtlas, and Grant was the villain opposite Whishaw's Paddington in Film/Paddington2; here, Grant is a synthesis of both. (Grant jokingly referred to Thorpe's treatment of Norman in the series as "revenge" against Whishaw for his character's victory in the ''Paddington 2.'')
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Andrew Newton is released from prison, he demands £75,000 from the first reporter he sees. When the reporter says he can offer £3000, Newton immediately says it's a deal.
* HilariousInHindsight: Whishaw played Grant's lover (well, ''wife'') in one timeline of Film/CloudAtlas, and Grant was the villain opposite Whishaw's Paddington in Film/Paddington2; here, Grant is a synthesis of both. (Grant jokingly referred to Thorpe's treatment of Norman in the series as "revenge" against Whishaw for his character's victory in the ''Paddington 2.'')
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Norman's speech to the jury is a dressing-down of treatment of gay men at the time, treated like they don't exist and aren't important, while the men in power who exploit, abuse and abandon them get to enjoy all the glory.
