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'''You'd Expect''': He jumps on him, throws him off, and clings to a helicopter.\\
'''Instead''': Lizard just scratches Spider-Man's hand, and ended up falling below skyscraper's feet. [[KilledOffForReal His death]] is ''his own fault''.

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'''You'd Expect''': He jumps The Lizard to jump onto the helicopter/hang on him, throws him off, to the helicopter and clings to a helicopter.throw Spider-Man off.\\
'''Instead''': Lizard just scratches Spider-Man's hand, and ended up falling below skyscraper's feet.a depth at least the height of a skyscraper. [[KilledOffForReal His death]] is ''his own fault''.



'''You'd Expect:''' them to at least consider the possibility Peter ''might'' be right. The similarities are suspiciously similar after all, and they all know Venom can change shape and size according to his host.\\
'''Instead:''' they dismiss Peter's warning and [[YoureJustJealous blame him for being jealous that a guy is doing a better job than him]], arguing that "''[[ClarkKenting Venom was huge while this is just a guy in a black suit]]"''. Even Fury doesn't seem to consider the possibility (though he at least didn't blame Spidey for anything). Made even worst by the fact the story then switches to Doctor Octopus' point of view, who after viewing the image ''immediately recognizes Venom''.

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'''You'd Expect:''' them The team to at least consider the possibility Peter ''might'' be right. The similarities are suspiciously similar after all, and they all know Venom can change shape and size according to his host.\\
'''Instead:''' they They dismiss Peter's warning and [[YoureJustJealous blame him for being jealous that a guy is doing a better job than him]], arguing that "''[[ClarkKenting Venom was huge while this is just a guy in a black suit]]"''. Even Fury doesn't seem to consider the possibility (though he at least didn't blame Spidey for anything). Made even worst by the fact the \\
'''Even Worse:''' The
story then switches to Doctor Octopus' point of view, who after viewing the image ''immediately recognizes Venom''.



'''Instead:''' He takes over control of civilians and sends them to attack them. Unsurprisingly, Wolverine just reaches him and threatens to kill him until he frees the civilians. After getting arrested, Mesmero does realize he can use his power directly on them... and uses it to switch Wolverine's and Spidey's bodies [[EvilIsPetty just to screw with them]]. This result in Spidey and Wolverine having a hard day, and him being threatened to be killed ''again'' until he switches them back, and ''then'' almost killed by a still infuriated Wolverine. Basically, he ended up as a minor nuisance rather than the actual threat he could have been.

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'''Instead:''' He takes over control of civilians and sends them to attack them. Unsurprisingly, \\
'''Unsurprisingly:'''
Wolverine just reaches him and threatens to kill him until he frees the civilians. After getting arrested, Merasmo gets arrested.\\
'''Then:'''
Mesmero does realize realizes later that he can use his power directly on them... them...\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Merasmo to take over Wolverine
and Spidey and make them work for him/kill each other/etc.\\
'''Instead:''' He
uses it to switch Wolverine's and Spidey's bodies [[EvilIsPetty just to screw with them]]. This result results in Spidey and Wolverine having a hard day, and him being threatened to be killed day.\\
'''As A Result:''' Wolverine threatens Merasmo with death
''again'' until he Merasmo switches them back, and ''then'' he's almost killed by a still infuriated Wolverine. Basically, he Merasmo ended up as a minor nuisance rather than the actual threat he could have been.



'''Instead:''' He steals one of Dr Connor's inventions in his SHIELD lab and bring it as their science project, without even knowing clearly what it does. The invention turns out to be the Awesome Android, a robot that feeds on any non-organic tissues and ends up wrecking havoc, humiliating Coulson in the process. Spidey and his team go the whole episode stopping the Android, and Coulson is now mad at him.

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'''Instead:''' He steals one of Dr Connor's inventions in his SHIELD lab and bring it as their science project, without even knowing clearly what it does. The invention turns out to be the Awesome Android, a robot that feeds on any non-organic tissues and ends up wrecking havoc, humiliating Coulson in the process. Spidey and his team go spend the whole episode stopping the Android, and Coulson is now mad at him.


** In "Iron Vulture", Peter learns from Vulture [[spoiler: that Doctor Octopus has a mole inside S.H.I.E.L.D. and that it's a Spider.]]\\
'''What You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: Peter to remember that part about it being a Spider and thus limit his suspect list to Iron Spider, Miles Morales, Agent Venom, and especially the newly-introduced Scarlet Spider.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He doesn't bother remembering the part that it's a Spider, leading Iron Spider to incorrectly and insistently guess that it's Doctor Connors throughout "Lizards". Moreover, he later trusts Scarlet Spider, whom he just met, with his secret identity--and Scarlet turns out to be the true mole.]]



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[[folder: Ultimate Spider Man]]
** Spider-Man is part of the team of young heroes formed by SHIELD and trained personnally by Nick Fury. During a previous episode, they fought with Comicbook/{{Venom}}, and got a perfectly good look at it, since all of them but White Tiger got possessed by it. Sure, they aren't sure of what it was, but they got a good look at its abilities. Later, when a mysterious new Spider-Man dressed in black suit that possess exactly the same scheme colour than Venom, does a better job than Peter and becomes everyones' idol, [[OnlySaneMan Spider-Man]] points out it's most-likely to be Venom.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' them to at least consider the possibility Peter ''might'' be right. The similarities are suspiciously similar after all, and they all know Venom can change shape and size according to his host.\\
'''Instead:''' they dismiss Peter's warning and [[YoureJustJealous blame him for being jealous that a guy is doing a better job than him]], arguing that "''[[ClarkKenting Venom was huge while this is just a guy in a black suit]]"''. Even Fury doesn't seem to consider the possibility (though he at least didn't blame Spidey for anything). Made even worst by the fact the story then switches to Doctor Octopus' point of view, who after viewing the image ''immediately recognizes Venom''.
** Later, in the episode "Freaky", Spider-Man ends up teaming up with ComicBook/XMen member {{Wolverine}} against Mesmero, a mutant villain with MindControl powers.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mesmero to use his powers to take over both Wolverine and Spidey, then force them to either kill each other, commit suicide, work for him or let him go.\\
'''Instead:''' He takes over control of civilians and sends them to attack them. Unsurprisingly, Wolverine just reaches him and threatens to kill him until he frees the civilians. After getting arrested, Mesmero does realize he can use his power directly on them... and uses it to switch Wolverine's and Spidey's bodies [[EvilIsPetty just to screw with them]]. This result in Spidey and Wolverine having a hard day, and him being threatened to be killed ''again'' until he switches them back, and ''then'' almost killed by a still infuriated Wolverine. Basically, he ended up as a minor nuisance rather than the actual threat he could have been.
** In the episode "Awesome", Peter has a Science Project to do with Luke Cage, but fails to do everything, partially because his aunt sold his chemistry kit and because he was busy fighting the Juggernaut. Considering the Principal actually is Agent Coulson, and as such knows about his superheroing:\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter to merely explain to Coulson why he couldn't do the science project in time. After all, the whole Juggernaut part is an acceptable justification, and unless Coulson is a major JerkAss, he would most likely understand and arrange for Luke and Peter to get away with it.\\
'''Instead:''' He steals one of Dr Connor's inventions in his SHIELD lab and bring it as their science project, without even knowing clearly what it does. The invention turns out to be the Awesome Android, a robot that feeds on any non-organic tissues and ends up wrecking havoc, humiliating Coulson in the process. Spidey and his team go the whole episode stopping the Android, and Coulson is now mad at him.
** In the season 1 finale, ''Rise of the Goblin'', ComicBook/NormanOsborn is mutated into the Green Goblin by Doctor Octopus injecting him with both Spider-Man and Venom's DNA. Later, when confronting his son, the Goblin says his mutation was caused by Spidey's DNA, leading Harry to confront Spider-Man and accuse him of having caused the transformation:\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Spider-Man to just tell Harry it was Dr Octopus who injected the DNA.\\
'''Instead:''' He starts trying to find the best way to explain to Harry that his father was a sick bastard anyway, which of course only ends up pissing off Harry even more.
** In "Iron Vulture", Peter learns from Vulture [[spoiler: that Doctor Octopus has a mole inside S.H.I.E.L.D. and that it's a Spider.]]\\
'''What You'd Expect:''' [[spoiler: Peter to remember that part about it being a Spider and thus limit his suspect list to Iron Spider, Miles Morales, Agent Venom, and especially the newly-introduced Scarlet Spider.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: He doesn't bother remembering the part that it's a Spider, leading Iron Spider to incorrectly and insistently guess that it's Doctor Connors throughout "Lizards". Moreover, he later trusts Scarlet Spider, whom he just met, with his secret identity--and Scarlet turns out to be the true mole.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'': Spencer Smythe showed Max Modell a picture he took of his student Harry Osborn "tinkering" with Anya's science project, even though Smythe asked him to double check. Smythe then demanded Harry would be suspended during investigation.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Max to question why Smythe would take a picture at that exact moment with Harry at the machine, while Harry would mention he was only double-checking when Smythe was acting concerned. Plus his classmates, Anya and Miles would object to suspending Harry.\\
'''Instead:''' Max begrudgingly suspends Harry anyway and none of the other students object to this.
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[[folder: The Spectacular Spider Man]]

* The ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' episode ''Growing Pains'' ends with Venom crashing into the Daily Bugle office and declaring Peter Parker is Spider-Man. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' Venom to do something that forces Peter into action, like throwing Jameson or one of the other Bugle staff members out of a window, thereby providing incontrovertible proof that Peter is Spider-Man.\\
'''Instead:''' Venom leaves immediately after dropping this bombshell, leaving no proof of his claims but his word.
* In the next episode "Identity Crisis", as journalists are trying to get proof of Spider-Man's identity,, Venom attacks Spidey and eventually rips off his mask as Spidey quickly dives behind a car to avoid being seen.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Venom to rip the mask in half, so Peter has no way of protecting his identity.\\
'''Instead:''' Venom, holding the mask with him, checks under the car for Spidey.\\
'''As A Result:''' He get whacked, allowing Peter to put his mask back on.
* From the same series, in "Gangland," Peter is on a date with Liz Allan on Valentine's Day. Many of his friends are also there with dates, including Gwen Stacy, who Peter has feelings for more than he does for Liz. Halfway through the date, Peter has to leave early for photographer/Spider-Man reasons. Liz forgives him, but wants a goodbye kiss.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter to give her the goodbye kiss and go off superheroing. If he must break up with her so he can pursue Gwen, do it at a more opportune time. While there is no way to break up with someone who loves you "in a good way," it's a much better option than what Peter ended up doing.\\
'''Instead:''' Peter acts like a {{Jerkass}}, not give the kiss and apologizes to ''Gwen'' for leaving early.\\
'''As A Result:''' Poor Liz is humiliated, her relationship with Peter is shattered, and Peter is to blame for being stupid.
* And one more, this time from the episode "Natural Selection". Even though its a growth in character development and meant to establish the status quo of the Spider-Man mythos, a ridiculous situation occurs when Kurt is taking his serum and becomes the Lizard through some unforeseen side effects. Peter, as Spider-Man, manages to defeat him in the process taking some pictures for the Daily Bugle for a contest and has it printed on the newspapers.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Peter, being as smart as he is, would request he'd be listed as "Anonymous" or use a fake name since the whole affair was a private matter and keep suspicion off of him since he was suppose to be helping them.\\
'''Instead:''' Like a dope, he has his name printed in bold letters on the paper.\\
'''As A Result:''' He gets fired from his intership and his friends are now distrustful of him.\\
'''Even Worse:''' He does it again in a later episode, "Persona", which leads to his falling out with Eddie Brock. You all know what happens after that.
* At their first encounter Dr. Octopus and Spider-Man are fighting over a super-battery capable of supplying Doc's mechanic tentacles with infinite resource. Currently Doc is using a makeshift battery with another hour of charge. Finally he pins Spider-Man down and grabs the super-battery.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he would finish Spidey off before changing the battery, since he still had enough juice.\\
'''Instead:''' He proceeds with the change and removes his current battery thus rending himself powerless for a moment.\\
'''As A Result:''' This window of opportunity allows Spider Man to beat him.

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[[folder: Spider Man The Animated Series]]
* In the "Hobgoblin" episode of ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' Kingpin and Osborn stage a [[IdiotBall juggling competition]].
** In order to wipe out the Kingpin, Osborn employs [[PsychoForHire Hobgoblin]] and equips him with a glider. However, Spider-Man thwarts the attempt, and Osborn decides it's too dangerous to carry on and gives Hobgoblin a boot.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Osborn to have installed a remote-controlled shut down switch in the glider or, better else, rigged it with explosives, so that when Hobgoblin outlives his usefulness, he can be stripped of his power and easily disposed of.\\
'''Instead:''' Osborn basically tells Hobgoblin to fuck off, insults him and threatens to expose him. And then acts genuinely surprised when Hobgoblin has the audacity to fly away with the glider and team up with Kingpin. He should be surprised Hobgoblin didn't exsanguinate him on spot!
** Hobgoblin successfully completes his first mission for the Kingpin - kidnap Harry Osborn - and demands payment.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Kingpin to pay him. Hobgoblin is a seemingly competent henchman, who's just entered his employement, so it'd be reasonable to give him some incentive.\\
'''Or:''' Since Hobgoblin is also a dangerous lunatic loyal to no-one but himself, Kingpin to get rid of him right there and then, and give the glider to one of his own reliable goons.\\
'''Instead:''' Kingpin refuses him for no reason other than to assert himself, ignoring the lack of any leverage over the nutcase. No surprise here, Hobgoblin immediately turns on him and goes to Osborn to plot revenge.\\
'''Even Worse:''' Osborn never learns, as he repeats his act of idiocy AGAIN: team up with Hobgoblin, give him an improved glider with no safeguards in it, act surprised when Hobgoblin betrays him AGAIN.
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[[folder: Spider Man The New Animated Series]]
* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' episode 3: The Lizard gets lifted by Spider-Man with the use of a helicopter.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He jumps on him, throws him off, and clings to a helicopter.\\
'''Instead''': Lizard just scratches Spider-Man's hand, and ended up falling below skyscraper's feet. [[KilledOffForReal His death]] is ''his own fault''.
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