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'''Instead''': She frees Mr. Incredible first, goes straight to him, and whispers for him to move fast.\\

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'''Instead''': She frees Mr. Incredible first, goes straight to him, and whispers for him to move fast.fast before they're both caught.\\



* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles2'': Several months after Syndrome terrorized the city with his robot and the supers came out of hiding to save everyone, the public opinion towards supers is finally changing after a decade. Mr. Dicker in the previous film promised the Incredibles family that while Congress argues out the red tape, the family has nothing to worry about during the transition. In the meantime, the villains return and are too much for the police or ordinary military to handle.\\

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles2'': ''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'': Several months after Syndrome terrorized the city with his robot and the supers came out of hiding to save everyone, the public opinion towards supers is finally changing after a decade. Mr. Dicker in the previous film promised the Incredibles family that while Congress argues out the red tape, the family has nothing to worry about during the transition. In the meantime, the villains return and are too much for the police or ordinary military to handle.\\
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles2'': Several months after Syndrome terrorized the city with his robot and the supers came out of hiding to save everyone, the public opinion towards supers is finally changing after a decade. Mr. Dicker in the previous film promised the Incredibles family that while Congress argues out the red tape, the family has nothing to worry about during the transition. In the meantime, the villains return and are too much for the police or ordinary military to handle.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Congress would quickly pass a law of pardon for supers. This isn't rocket science; they are needed, practically speaking.\\
'''Instead''': Mr. Dicker gets fired and the supers are still considered overpowered vigilantes. Which means that every time the family dons their masks, they are risking their lives ''and'' breaking the law.\\
'''The Result''': The Incredibles family is put through the wringer after they work to stop the Underminer, with Violet in particular getting the short end of the stick. When a PR executive hires Elastigirl to be the new face of super heroes, she lampshades that she has to break the law to do her new job. [[spoiler:When a new villain comes that vows to destroy the supers once and for all, they're pretty much unbeatable.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': She would remember that she isn't the most trustworthy person to him after she lied to him about everything, and that he threatened to kill her ones. She should [[spoiler:tell him that his family's alive, and keep a safe distance away after freeing him]].\\

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'''You'd Expect''': She would remember that she isn't the most trustworthy person to him after she lied to him about everything, and that he threatened to kill her ones.once already. She should [[spoiler:tell him that his family's alive, and keep a safe distance away after freeing him]].\\
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** Helen after Bob finds his new purpose is at first pleased. He stops coming home late at night covered in ashes, gets into shape, gives her a lot more loving and a new car, and spends more time with the kids. Then she finds a hair on one of his business suits, a long white hair. Suspicious, she listens into a phone call where a strange woman asks Bob to come over. Then she notices Bob's old suit got repaired, and only Edna Mode would have done it. Edna then shows her all the prototypes that she designed for the entire family, factoring in their powers. When a confused Helen asks for an explanation, Edna gives her the tracking device to Bob's new suit, which reveals that Bob is on a remote island.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Helen would put all the red flags together: Bob not doing illicit hero work that leaves ashes on his clothes, his old suit getting mended and replaced by Edna Mode, and their improved sex life. He's somehow found a way to reignite his old passion of doing heroics.\\
'''Instead''': Helen assumes Bob is having midlife crisis -- which is true-- and an affair -- which isn't true. After she breaks down in tears in front of Edna, the latter encourages her to go find Bob and kick the crap out of him.\\
'''The Result''': Helen goes to the island without any planned backup, though she calls in a favor from Snug to get a plane. If Violet and Dash hadn't impulsively stowed away, after they get a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass babysitter for their brother, then Helen would have been trying to rescue her husband completely alone, with no one knowing where she was. [[AdultFear Including their kids]].
** Mirage after [[spoiler:Syndrome gambles with her life decides to pull a HeelFaceTurn. It helps that she learns that several unknown people survived the plane crash. She goes to free Mr. Incredible, who has spent the night in his restraints thinking his entire family died.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': She would remember that she isn't the most trustworthy person to him after she lied to him about everything, and that he threatened to kill her ones. She should [[spoiler:tell him that his family's alive, and keep a safe distance away after freeing him]].\\
'''Instead''': She frees Mr. Incredible first, goes straight to him, and whispers for him to move fast.\\
'''The Result''': Mr. Incredible strangles her in a grieving rage before she can tell him his family's alive. She's pretty lucky that he didn't snap her neck off the bat, as he had threatened to earlier.

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Like I said in the edit reason, this comes as What A Jerk because the systems deliberately put the supers in those positions to keep them from using their powers.


** The Supers are forced into anonymity with the help of the government, given jobs and homes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That the people who voluntarily put their lives on the line in order to defend the public be given jobs that allow them to exercise this desire, such as Law Enforcement or the military. Mr Incredible can bench press ''a train'', and Frozone can create solid ice quite literally from thin air. Putting them into uniform as cops or firefighters would be a far better use of their talents. Even if the conditions of their retirement forbid them from doing any 'field' work, put them in a consulting role with an organisation like the police, or ''something'' that gives them a sense of helping people.\\
'''Instead''': Bob is forced into being a low-level corporate drone at an insurance company, which is so hostile to its customers that Bob is given a dressing down simply for telling an old lady how to navigate the bureaucracy and claim what her policy entitles her to.\\
'''As A Result''': Bob, during this dressing-down, becomes so infuriated by his manager's indifference to a ''mugging victim'' that he throws him through several cubicles, nearly killing the man and losing his job, which allows Mirage to recruit him.\\
'''Not To Mention''': This, or something like it, has happened a few times before. The family is stated to have had to move around a lot in the past few years, and the government agent who helps hush up this incident mentions having done the same so many times that he can't get away with another without pulling strings. Even if Bob ''has'' to work somewhere that completely removes him from any kind of public service, surely the government has the resources to find him a job with a boss who ''isn't'' a power-tripping sadist.
** Bob due to this terrible job placement, loses his position at the insurance company. [[UnconfessedUnemployment He doesn't dare tell Helen this]], or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\

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** The Supers are forced into anonymity with the help of the government, given jobs and homes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That the people who voluntarily put their lives on the line in order to defend the public be given jobs that allow them to exercise this desire, such as Law Enforcement or the military. Mr Incredible can bench press ''a train'', and Frozone can create solid ice quite literally from thin air. Putting them into uniform as cops or firefighters would be a far better use of their talents. Even if the conditions of their retirement forbid them from doing any 'field' work, put them in a consulting role with an organisation like the police, or ''something'' that gives them a sense of helping people.\\
'''Instead''': Bob is forced into being a low-level corporate drone at an insurance company, which is so hostile to its customers that Bob is given a dressing down simply for telling an old lady how to navigate the bureaucracy and claim what her policy entitles her to.\\
'''As A Result''': Bob, during this dressing-down, becomes so infuriated by his manager's indifference to a ''mugging victim'' that he throws him through several cubicles, nearly killing the man and losing his job, which allows Mirage to recruit him.\\
'''Not To Mention''': This, or something like it, has happened a few times before. The family is stated to have had to move around a lot in the past few years, and the government agent who helps hush up this incident mentions having done the same so many times that he can't get away with another without pulling strings. Even if Bob ''has'' to work somewhere that completely removes him from any kind of public service, surely the government has the resources to find him a job with a boss who ''isn't'' a power-tripping sadist.
** Bob due to this terrible the malicious job placement, placements for supers, loses his position at the insurance company. [[UnconfessedUnemployment He doesn't dare tell Helen this]], or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\
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'''As A Result''': Bob, during this dressing-down, becomes so infuriate by his manager's indifference to a ''mugging victim'' that he throws him through several cubicles, nearly killing the man and losing his job, which allows Mirage to 'recruit' him.\\

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'''As A Result''': Bob, during this dressing-down, becomes so infuriate infuriated by his manager's indifference to a ''mugging victim'' that he throws him through several cubicles, nearly killing the man and losing his job, which allows Mirage to 'recruit' recruit him.\\

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** Bob due to this terrible job placement loses his position at the insurance company. [[UnconfessedUnemployment He doesn't dare tell Helen this]], or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\

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** The Supers are forced into anonymity with the help of the government, given jobs and homes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That the people who voluntarily put their lives on the line in order to defend the public be given jobs that allow them to exercise this desire, such as Law Enforcement or the military. Mr Incredible can bench press ''a train'', and Frozone can create solid ice quite literally from thin air. Putting them into uniform as cops or firefighters would be a far better use of their talents. Even if the conditions of their retirement forbid them from doing any 'field' work, put them in a consulting role with an organisation like the police, or ''something'' that gives them a sense of helping people.\\
'''Instead''': Bob is forced into being a low-level corporate drone at an insurance company, which is so hostile to its customers that Bob is given a dressing down simply for telling an old lady how to navigate the bureaucracy and claim what her policy entitles her to.\\
'''As A Result''': Bob, during this dressing-down, becomes so infuriate by his manager's indifference to a ''mugging victim'' that he throws him through several cubicles, nearly killing the man and losing his job, which allows Mirage to 'recruit' him.\\
'''Not To Mention''': This, or something like it, has happened a few times before. The family is stated to have had to move around a lot in the past few years, and the government agent who helps hush up this incident mentions having done the same so many times that he can't get away with another without pulling strings. Even if Bob ''has'' to work somewhere that completely removes him from any kind of public service, surely the government has the resources to find him a job with a boss who ''isn't'' a power-tripping sadist.
** Bob due to this terrible job placement placement, loses his position at the insurance company. [[UnconfessedUnemployment He doesn't dare tell Helen this]], or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\
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This is also a "what a jerk" moment, because Syndrome wanted Mr. Incredible's family members killed due to his petty grudge against Mr. Incredible and for revenge.


** The whole "shoot the plane" down scenario happens when Helen accidentally activates a tracking device in Incredible's suit which gets him caught in Syndrome's secret lair. Mr. Incredible is honest when he says he didn't know about that, and he says PleaseIWillDoAnything when he realizes that Helen's the pilot asking for permission to land.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Syndrome to realize that having live hostages to torment Mr. Incredible would be more valuable than dead ones, especially since he knows "Helen," the pilot, and the "children" aboard, and that they might be in the know about Incredible's secret identity. In addition, he can make sure that no one else knows about the island by interrogating the plane members. He could pretend to give her permission to land, invoke IHaveYourWife and forcibly interrogate Helen about HaveYouToldAnyoneElse. Mr. Incredible won't fight back if his family is in danger.\\
'''Instead''': Syndrome for petty reasons gives the orders to shoot the plane down, and taunts Incredible about how he "works alone," has nothing to lose and still refuses to snap Mirage's neck after taking her hostage. This leads to Helen and the kids surviving the crash, Mirage turning on Syndrome for disregarding her life, and Mr. Incredible nearly killing Mirage for real after she frees him. All these parties when they work together contribute to Syndrome's inevitable downfall.
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This comes off as "what a jerk," because the government put the supers in those type of jobs deliberately to prevent them from using their superpowers.


** The supers following a series of lawsuits have to go underground; the government helps them build civilian identities and find new jobs.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The government would put supers in jobs that they want to do, and where they will excel and where they won't arouse suspicion. Bob would do great as a cop or firefighter, for example, due to his durability and desire to help people, and no one would think twice of him helping to carry fire victims due to his bulk. A private business owner (like Syndome) could easily hire away supers to use their powers as secret police or for an army, and that would be a liability.\\
'''Instead''': The government job placement is incredibly terrible. Bob is stuck in one dead-end office job after another; his latest is working for a CorruptCorporateExecutive who hates that insurance clients are finding loopholes to get the claim they want. Bob ends up sending that executive through about ten walls after the latter refuses to let him help a man getting mugged outside, and the loss of his job makes him vulnerable and desperate enough to accept the mysterious offer from Mirage. Judging by the number of other supers that [[spoiler:Syndome has hired away and killed]], the government has been doing a terrible job with it.
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See discussion page; if anybody here has objections to my disagreement, please feel free to discuss (I won't fight to leave it off), but I still think this example isn't really a good one.


** [[spoiler: Woody, Buzz, and the other toys are on the conveyor belt at the dump. At first they think they're approaching daylight, but it turns out to be an ''enormous'' incinerator, which burns all the trash that falls into it. But they see a ladder which leads upward, and avoids being pushed into it, with a stop button that will halt the conveyor belt if pressed.]]\\
'''You'd expect:''' [[spoiler: That Buzz or Woody themselves would try to climb up the ladder and hit the stop button before it's too late.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up and press it himself.]]\\
'''As a Result:''' [[spoiler: Lotso does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]
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** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\

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** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with up his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\

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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]

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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it and press it himself. So he himself.]]\\
'''As a Result:''' [[spoiler: Lotso
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'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest for the yard sale and leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David by knocking over some stuff with a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.

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'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest for the yard sale and leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David Davis by knocking over some stuff with a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.
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He actually going the throw the bag away but then dropped it when Nigel came in.


'''Instead:''' He decides to go ahead and offer Nemo to her anyway. Then, after Nemo pretends to go belly-up, he leaves the bag ''right there'' where Darla can see it. What does she do? Why, she proceeds to start violently shaking the bag to "wake up" the fish. If it weren't for Gill's intervention, Nemo would have surely died.

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'''Instead:''' He decides to go ahead and offer Nemo to her anyway. Then, after Nemo pretends to go belly-up, he leaves the bag ''right there'' where Darla can see it. What does she do? Why, she proceeds to start violently shaking the bag to "wake up" the fish. If it weren't for Gill's intervention, Nemo would have surely died.
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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'':
** A major moment of this type occurs in the first movie. Buzz and Woody are trying to find Andy when they see that their only chance is to use a Pizza Planet delivery vehicle, a small pickup truck. Woody wants the two of them to ride in the bed, notifying that "no one will see them there." However, Buzz warns him that "There are no restraining harnesses in the cargo area." As it turns out, despite Woody's warnings, there apparently happens to be a stack of pizza packages between the driver's seat and the passenger's, which is enough to obscure Buzz from the driver's view.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody would realize that Buzz has a point and to sit somewhere in the front where the humans won't see him.\\
'''Instead''': He still chooses his idea of hiding from the humans, which is to sit in the bed; with disastrous consequences.
** Later on, when Buzz gets separated from Woody on the moving truck, Woody plans on using RC to drive him back.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody to tell the rest of Andy's toys that Buzz is out there and to prove it by using Lenny (a pair of toy binoculars). That way the rest of the toys can help him bring Buzz back to the truck.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window, turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.
* Near the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', Woody has ended up found by a toy collector named Al in Yard Sale while trying to save another toy from being sold, but Andy's mom refuses to sell him as he is still her son's favorite toy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mrs. Davis to hold onto Woody or take him back up to Andy's room.\\
'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest for the yard sale and leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David by knocking over some stuff with a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.
** In the middle of the film, the toys are looking for Woody in 'Al's Toy Barn', where early on, Rex picks up a magazine that tells him how to defeat Emporer Zurg in the 'Buzz Lightyear' Video Game, and then afterwards, they get a toy van to explore the toy store's different aisles in, with a 'Tour Guide Barbie' on the wheel. During all this, Rex is spending time looking at his magazine in the back seat.\\
'''You'd Expect''': that Rex keeps the big magazine to himself without doing anything to disrupt Tour Guide Barbie while she is at the wheel.\\
'''Instead''': Upon finding something on the magazine that tells him how to defeat Zurg, he -for no good reason- shoves the whole magazine in front of the driver's view, resulting in them accidentally hitting a large tub of bouncy balls, further causing the van to spin out of control and for Rex to have his 'Source of power,' the magazine fly out of his 'little arms' and underneath one of the lower shelves out of his reach. He even almost gets left behind as he tries to catch up with the van that veered off without him.
* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''
** Andy is leaving for college, and his mother tells him he has to clear out his room. She gives him instructions that garbage bags hold trash, like his apple core, and cardboard boxes hold sentimental items for storage in the attic. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Andy to follow his mother's instructions. Despite having outgrown all of his toys, he's deeply attached to the ones that survived his childhood.\\
'''Instead''': He puts his toys in a garbage bag and leaves them below the attic door. Mrs. Davis on seeing the bag puts it in the trash. Later, Andy can't find his toys, and when he explains to his mother, she goes OhCrap. Fortunately, [[spoiler:the toys make it back before Andy leaves for college, and he thinks he just misplaced them, but still!]]
** Woody runs with a pair of scissors to save his friends, who manage to escape the garbage truck. By the time he catches up, however, they believe that Andy has abandoned them. Jessie is particularly hurt since it triggered her abandonment issues and claustrophobia. Woody tells them that Andy was putting them in the attic.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That they would believe Woody, and return to the attic on their own, before Andy notices they're gone.\\
'''Instead''': The toys don't believe Woody, especially since Andy's taking him to college. Jessie decides to go with Molly's abandoned Barbie to the local daycare. [[spoiler:They soon find that the daycare is a FalseUtopia for new toys, and its leader Lotso won't let them return when Mrs. Potato Head sees through her missing eye that Andy is looking for them. Jessie apologizes to Woody when he comes back for them, lampshading that the toys were wrong.]]
** Lotso explains to Buzz how the "system" at Sunnyside works and offers to let Buzz join his team and live in luxury in the Butterfly Room. Buzz doesn't question the system, accepting that it "makes sense," but declines the offer because he refuses to leave his friends.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Lotso would say, "Okay," and let Buzz go willingly back to the Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him to go in the beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and the rest of Andy's toys still see him as a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.\\
'''Instead''': For no apparent reason, Lotso brainwashes Buzz into serving him, then goes and informs the rest of Andy's toys that they're not allowed to leave, revealing that them ending up in the Caterpillar Room wasn't a mistake and that Sunnyside "isn't a family, it's a prison," which, of course, leads to the rebellion that he tries to have Buzz stop, even though it was triggered by Lotso brainwashing Buzz and having him attack the others.
** [[spoiler: Woody, Buzz, and the other toys are on the conveyor belt at the dump. At first they think they're approaching daylight, but it turns out to be an ''enormous'' incinerator, which burns all the trash that falls into it. But they see a ladder which leads upward, and avoids being pushed into it, with a stop button that will halt the conveyor belt if pressed.]]\\
'''You'd expect:''' [[spoiler: That Buzz or Woody themselves would try to climb up the ladder and hit the stop button before it's too late.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'':
''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''
** A major moment of this type occurs in The whole plot kicks off when Queen Elinor receives notification that three tribes will send suitors to win her daughter Merida's hand. Merida's not keen on the first movie. Buzz idea, and Woody are the two have a row about it. Fergus convinces Elinor to practice speaking with him as if he's Merida, and Merida carries on a similar conversation with her horse Angus.
*** '''You'd expect''': Elinor after practicing talking to Merida with Fergus would seek her daughter out, and Merida would do the same. They both have good intentions, each not
trying to hurt the other, and they can find Andy when they see that their only chance is to use a Pizza Planet delivery vehicle, a small pickup truck. Woody wants the two of them to ride in the bed, notifying that "no one will see them there." However, Buzz warns him that "There are no restraining harnesses in the cargo area." As it turns out, despite Woody's warnings, there apparently happens to be a stack of pizza packages between the driver's seat and the passenger's, middle ground, which is enough to obscure Buzz from the driver's view.they later do find.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody would realize that Buzz has a point and to sit somewhere in the front where the humans won't see him.\\
'''Instead''': He still chooses his idea of hiding from the humans, which is Elinor keeps her words to sit in the bed; with disastrous consequences.
** Later on, when Buzz gets separated from Woody on the moving truck, Woody plans on using RC to drive him back.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody to tell the rest of Andy's toys that Buzz is out there and to prove it by using Lenny (a pair of toy binoculars). That way the rest of the toys can help him bring Buzz back to the truck.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window, turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.
* Near the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', Woody has ended up found by a toy collector named Al in Yard Sale
herself while trying to save another toy from being sold, but Andy's mom refuses to sell him as he is still her son's favorite toy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mrs. Davis to hold onto Woody or take him back
dressing up to Andy's room.\\
'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest
Merida for the yard sale occasion, and leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David by knocking over some stuff with Merida keeps her mouth shut in hopes of devising a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.
** In the middle
means out of the film, situation. Merida invokes LoopholeAbuse to win her own hand which threatens a four-way war, Elinor in a fury throws her daughter's bow into the toys are looking for Woody in 'Al's Toy Barn', where early on, Rex picks up a magazine that tells him how to defeat Emporer Zurg in the 'Buzz Lightyear' Video Game, fire, and then afterwards, they get Merida runs away in tears.
** A worse mess ensues because Merida meets
a toy van to explore the toy store's different aisles in, stranger, who she soon realizes is a druid. Despite knowing ''absolutely nothing'' about magic, she bargains with a 'Tour Guide Barbie' on the wheel. During all this, Rex is spending time looking at his magazine in the back seat.\\
'''You'd Expect''': that Rex keeps the big magazine to himself without doing anything to disrupt Tour Guide Barbie while she is at the wheel.\\
'''Instead''': Upon finding something on the magazine that tells him how to defeat Zurg, he -for no good reason- shoves the whole magazine in front of the driver's view, resulting in them accidentally hitting a large tub of bouncy balls, further causing the van to spin out of control and
this stranger for Rex a spell to have his 'Source of power,' the magazine fly out of his 'little arms' and underneath one of the lower shelves out of his reach. He even almost gets left behind as he tries to catch up with the van that veered off without him.
* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''
** Andy is leaving for college, and his mother tells him he has to clear out his room. She gives him instructions that garbage bags hold trash, like his apple core, and cardboard boxes hold sentimental items for storage in the attic.
"change her fate". \\
'''You'd Expect''': Andy Expect:''' Merida to follow his mother's instructions. Despite having outgrown all of his toys, he's deeply attached listen to the ones that survived his childhood.witch about "unhappy customers" and her hints of warning such as, "Are you sure you know what you're asking for?" She could take her time to think about the wording of the spell as well if she's going to go through with it, since "change" can lead to so many possibilities. Witches were also considered ''wisewomen'', so she could simply pay for advice on how to get out of an ArrangedMarriage.\\
'''Instead''': He puts his toys in a garbage bag '''Instead:''' Even after the druid ominously warns her that all magic has consequences, Merida insists on purchasing the spell, as well as all the witch's carvings, and leaves them below pays no mind to the attic door. Mrs. Davis on seeing hints that the bag puts it in witch is dropping. Then the trash. Later, Andy can't find his toys, and when he explains spell turns her mother into a BrainwashedAndCrazy bear.
** Following this, Merida seeks
to his mother, she goes OhCrap. Fortunately, [[spoiler:the toys make it undo the spell by going back before Andy leaves for college, and he thinks he just misplaced them, but still!]]
** Woody runs
to the witch's cottage with a pair of scissors to save his friends, who manage to escape her mother. That in itself is reasonable, but the garbage truck. By the time he catches up, however, they believe witch has left behind a message with potions and a CurseEscapeClause that Andy has abandoned them. Jessie is particularly hurt since it triggered her abandonment issues and claustrophobia. Woody tells them that Andy was putting them in the attic.coded with vagueness.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Expect:''' That they Merida would believe Woody, and return to the attic on their own, before Andy notices they're gone.become a little more cautious about magic.\\
'''Instead''': The toys don't believe Woody, especially since Andy's taking him '''Instead:''' She immediately tries to college. Jessie decides to go fix her mother by...grabbing potions at random and pouring them into a nearby hearth. As her previous experience with Molly's abandoned Barbie to magic clearly shows, this only makes the local daycare. [[spoiler:They soon find problem worse. [[note]]Really, Merida's lucky that her antics ''only'' ended up terrifying herself, her mother and forcing them to sleep outside for the night.[[/note]]
** Once Merida and her mother figure out the CurseEscapeClause
that the daycare is a FalseUtopia for new toys, and its leader Lotso won't let them return when Mrs. Potato Head sees through her missing eye witch left behind, Merida realizes that Andy is looking for them. Jessie apologizes she has to Woody when he comes mend the tapestry that she ripped earlier with her sword in a fury. That means going back for them, lampshading that to the toys were wrong.]]
** Lotso explains to Buzz how
castle, getting the "system" at Sunnyside works tapestry, and offers to let Buzz join his team and live in luxury in the Butterfly Room. Buzz doesn't question the system, accepting that it "makes sense," but declines the offer because he refuses to leave his friends.sewing it.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Lotso would say, "Okay," Merida to have her mother wait outside the castle after the latter shows her the secret entrance, and let Buzz go willingly back to mend the Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him tapestry quickly before bringing it out to go drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into wild bear form as she did by the beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and the rest of Andy's toys still see him as a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.river.\\
'''Instead''': For no apparent reason, Lotso brainwashes Buzz Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her into serving him, then goes the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and informs Merida needs her mother's help to find the rest of Andy's toys needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a wild bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is that they're not allowed to leave, revealing that them ending up in Fergus is on the Caterpillar Room wasn't a mistake bear hunt again, Merida and that Sunnyside "isn't a family, it's a prison," which, of course, leads to her mother haven't mended the rebellion that he tries to have Buzz stop, even though it was triggered by Lotso brainwashing Buzz and having him attack tapestry or broken the others.
** [[spoiler: Woody, Buzz,
curse, and the other toys are on sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has to stop her father from killing her mother, and mend the conveyor belt at the dump. At first they think they're approaching daylight, but it turns out tapestry on horseback.
** Also after this happens Merida tearfully confesses
to be an ''enormous'' incinerator, which burns all the trash that falls into it. But they see a ladder which leads upward, and avoids being pushed into it, Fergus what happened with a stop button that will halt the conveyor belt if pressed.]]\\
spell and the witch.\\
'''You'd expect:''' [[spoiler: That Buzz or Woody themselves would try Expect''': Fergus to climb up the ladder and hit the stop button before take a moment to listen to his daughter, since even though he doesn't believe in magic it's too late.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso,
odd that someone like [[ActionGirl Merida]] would protect a bear that slashed her, not to mention that said bear ran off in a fright after attacking him and her which isn't what Mordu did.\\
'''Instead''': Fergus pays no mind at all to what Merida says and locks her in
the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it tapestry room for her "safety". He leads the lords on a bear hunt and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only nearly kills his wife. He then fights Merida when she stops him from shooting Bear!Elinor and cuts off his wooden leg, instead of listening to pointedly ''not'' hit her, until the button, leaving them to die.]]triplets tackle him in bear cub form and confirm her story, which makes him vulnerable when Mordu, the actual bear threat, appears.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'':
** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That his siblings wouldn't mess up Arlo's chances. Or, alternatively, they could help him not fear them because while his fear is rational, it does make him TheMillstone.\\
'''Instead''': Buck, a BigBrotherBully, plays a prank on Arlo with the hens, which messes him up. He then knocks over Arlo when the latter gets understandably angry at him. This ends up starting a chain of events that leads to the father Henry dying and the family farm going to ruin.
** After this point the whole family sees Arlo raging at Buck. It's obvious that Buck played a prank on Arlo and has sabotaged the one time he's tried not to be scared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Henry and his wife would give Buck a WhatTheHellHero speech and to help Arlo work smarter, not harder. The siblings should be supporting each other, and Arlo needs more time and confidence to make his mark.\\
'''Instead''': Buck doesn't get lectured, making him a KarmaHoudini because JerkassHasAPoint. While Henry does cheer up Arlo by taking him out at night to see fireflies, he decides it would be a ''bright'' idea to have his youngest son capture a pest that's getting into their food, rather than help him with the hens. Arlo when he sees the pest, a tiny human he names Spot, can't kill it and frees it. Then when this happens, Henry takes him on a trip that ends up killing Henry and stranding Arlo far away from home. Arlo then has to make the trip with the human Spot, while dealing with his dad's death.



* ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' has a few moments as well.
** While making the long trek back to headquarters, Joy and Sadness run into workers that send an EarWorm as a joke through recall tubes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\
'''Instead''': Joy insists that she has to personally take the core memories back to headquarters, not even letting the possibility cross her mind since the core memories are too valuable. This oversight ends up costing her and Sadness crucial time; when she [[spoiler: thinks to use the recall tubes to transport herself and the memories much later on, they collapse due to Honesty Island collapsing at the same time.]]
** Bing Bong points out a "shortcut" that says "DANGER- Keep Out". Bing Bong can't read, but Joy very well can. Sadness realizes what the danger is and warns Joy not to go in.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would listen to Sadness's worries and bypass the "shortcut," given the sign and all.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Bing Bong go in, with Sadness reluctantly following to help them out when they get turned into abstract thought. CessationOfExistence nearly ensues.
** The Train of Thought stops for the night, since Riley needs sleep. Joy is frantic since without the train they have a long journey ahead of them. They sneak into the dream-making studios to try and wake Riley up.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Each emotion has alternating dream shift duty; Joy in fact was on one, and the dreams tend to be repetitive. Joy and Sadness after crashing the dream could try and send a message to Fear, Anger or Disgust through the images to not do anything rash and that Joy and Sadness are on their way back to headquarters. The dream has a WeirdnessCensor, but even Fear can see through most of it and criticize the quality.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Sadness only focus on waking Riley up, and Fear has no idea what's going on when he sees the strange nightmares that the other two emotions cause. Anger and Disgust chide him for waking Riley up during a nightmare, not realizing Joy's intentions due to miscommunication, and plant the idea for Riley to run away.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''
** The whole plot kicks off when Queen Elinor receives notification that three tribes will send suitors to win her daughter Merida's hand. Merida's not keen on the idea, and the two have a row about it. Fergus convinces Elinor to practice speaking with him as if he's Merida, and Merida carries on a similar conversation with her horse Angus.
*** '''You'd expect''': Elinor after practicing talking to Merida with Fergus would seek her daughter out, and Merida would do the same. They both have good intentions, each not trying to hurt the other, and they can find middle ground, which they later do find.\\
'''Instead''': Elinor keeps her words to herself while dressing up Merida for the occasion, and Merida keeps her mouth shut in hopes of devising a means out of the situation. Merida invokes LoopholeAbuse to win her own hand which threatens a four-way war, Elinor in a fury throws her daughter's bow into the fire, and Merida runs away in tears.
** A worse mess ensues because Merida meets a stranger, who she soon realizes is a druid. Despite knowing ''absolutely nothing'' about magic, she bargains with this stranger for a spell to "change her fate". \\
'''You'd Expect:''' Merida to listen to the witch about "unhappy customers" and her hints of warning such as, "Are you sure you know what you're asking for?" She could take her time to think about the wording of the spell as well if she's going to go through with it, since "change" can lead to so many possibilities. Witches were also considered ''wisewomen'', so she could simply pay for advice on how to get out of an ArrangedMarriage.\\
'''Instead:''' Even after the druid ominously warns her that all magic has consequences, Merida insists on purchasing the spell, as well as all the witch's carvings, and pays no mind to the hints that the witch is dropping. Then the spell turns her mother into a BrainwashedAndCrazy bear.
** Following this, Merida seeks to undo the spell by going back to the witch's cottage with her mother. That in itself is reasonable, but the witch has left behind a message with potions and a CurseEscapeClause that is coded with vagueness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Merida would become a little more cautious about magic.\\
'''Instead:''' She immediately tries to fix her mother by...grabbing potions at random and pouring them into a nearby hearth. As her previous experience with magic clearly shows, this only makes the problem worse. [[note]]Really, Merida's lucky that her antics ''only'' ended up terrifying herself, her mother and forcing them to sleep outside for the night.[[/note]]
** Once Merida and her mother figure out the CurseEscapeClause that the witch left behind, Merida realizes that she has to mend the tapestry that she ripped earlier with her sword in a fury. That means going back to the castle, getting the tapestry, and sewing it.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Merida to have her mother wait outside the castle after the latter shows her the secret entrance, and mend the tapestry quickly before bringing it out to drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into wild bear form as she did by the river.\\
'''Instead''': Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her into the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and Merida needs her mother's help to find the needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a wild bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is that Fergus is on the bear hunt again, Merida and her mother haven't mended the tapestry or broken the curse, and the sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has to stop her father from killing her mother, and mend the tapestry on horseback.
** Also after this happens Merida tearfully confesses to Fergus what happened with the spell and the witch.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Fergus to take a moment to listen to his daughter, since even though he doesn't believe in magic it's odd that someone like [[ActionGirl Merida]] would protect a bear that slashed her, not to mention that said bear ran off in a fright after attacking him and her which isn't what Mordu did.\\
'''Instead''': Fergus pays no mind at all to what Merida says and locks her in the tapestry room for her "safety". He leads the lords on a bear hunt and nearly kills his wife. He then fights Merida when she stops him from shooting Bear!Elinor and cuts off his wooden leg, instead of listening to her, until the triplets tackle him in bear cub form and confirm her story, which makes him vulnerable when Mordu, the actual bear threat, appears.
* ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' has a few moments as well.
** While making the long trek back to headquarters, Joy and Sadness run into workers that send an EarWorm as a joke through recall tubes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\
'''Instead''': Joy insists that she has to personally take the core memories back to headquarters, not even letting the possibility cross her mind since the core memories are too valuable. This oversight ends up costing her and Sadness crucial time; when she [[spoiler: thinks to use the recall tubes to transport herself and the memories much later on, they collapse due to Honesty Island collapsing at the same time.]]
** Bing Bong points out a "shortcut" that says "DANGER- Keep Out". Bing Bong can't read, but Joy very well can. Sadness realizes what the danger is and warns Joy not to go in.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would listen to Sadness's worries and bypass the "shortcut," given the sign and all.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Bing Bong go in, with Sadness reluctantly following to help them out when they get turned into abstract thought. CessationOfExistence nearly ensues.
** The Train of Thought stops for the night, since Riley needs sleep. Joy is frantic since without the train they have a long journey ahead of them. They sneak into the dream-making studios to try and wake Riley up.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Each emotion has alternating dream shift duty; Joy in fact was on one, and the dreams tend to be repetitive. Joy and Sadness after crashing the dream could try and send a message to Fear, Anger or Disgust through the images to not do anything rash and that Joy and Sadness are on their way back to headquarters. The dream has a WeirdnessCensor, but even Fear can see through most of it and criticize the quality.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Sadness only focus on waking Riley up, and Fear has no idea what's going on when he sees the strange nightmares that the other two emotions cause. Anger and Disgust chide him for waking Riley up during a nightmare, not realizing Joy's intentions due to miscommunication, and plant the idea for Riley to run away.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'':
** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That his siblings wouldn't mess up Arlo's chances. Or, alternatively, they could help him not fear them because while his fear is rational, it does make him TheMillstone.\\
'''Instead''': Buck, a BigBrotherBully, plays a prank on Arlo with the hens, which messes him up. He then knocks over Arlo when the latter gets understandably angry at him. This ends up starting a chain of events that leads to the father Henry dying and the family farm going to ruin.
** After this point the whole family sees Arlo raging at Buck. It's obvious that Buck played a prank on Arlo and has sabotaged the one time he's tried not to be scared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Henry and his wife would give Buck a WhatTheHellHero speech and to help Arlo work smarter, not harder. The siblings should be supporting each other, and Arlo needs more time and confidence to make his mark.\\
'''Instead''': Buck doesn't get lectured, making him a KarmaHoudini because JerkassHasAPoint. While Henry does cheer up Arlo by taking him out at night to see fireflies, he decides it would be a ''bright'' idea to have his youngest son capture a pest that's getting into their food, rather than help him with the hens. Arlo when he sees the pest, a tiny human he names Spot, can't kill it and frees it. Then when this happens, Henry takes him on a trip that ends up killing Henry and stranding Arlo far away from home. Arlo then has to make the trip with the human Spot, while dealing with his dad's death.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''
''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'':
** The whole plot kicks off when Queen Elinor receives notification that three tribes will send suitors to win her daughter Merida's hand. Merida's not keen on A major moment of this type occurs in the idea, first movie. Buzz and the two have a row about it. Fergus convinces Elinor to practice speaking with him as if he's Merida, and Merida carries on a similar conversation with her horse Angus.
*** '''You'd expect''': Elinor after practicing talking to Merida with Fergus would seek her daughter out, and Merida would do the same. They both have good intentions, each not
Woody are trying to hurt the other, and find Andy when they can find middle ground, see that their only chance is to use a Pizza Planet delivery vehicle, a small pickup truck. Woody wants the two of them to ride in the bed, notifying that "no one will see them there." However, Buzz warns him that "There are no restraining harnesses in the cargo area." As it turns out, despite Woody's warnings, there apparently happens to be a stack of pizza packages between the driver's seat and the passenger's, which they later do find.is enough to obscure Buzz from the driver's view.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody would realize that Buzz has a point and to sit somewhere in the front where the humans won't see him.\\
'''Instead''': Elinor keeps her words He still chooses his idea of hiding from the humans, which is to herself sit in the bed; with disastrous consequences.
** Later on, when Buzz gets separated from Woody on the moving truck, Woody plans on using RC to drive him back.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody to tell the rest of Andy's toys that Buzz is out there and to prove it by using Lenny (a pair of toy binoculars). That way the rest of the toys can help him bring Buzz back to the truck.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window, turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.
* Near the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', Woody has ended up found by a toy collector named Al in Yard Sale
while dressing trying to save another toy from being sold, but Andy's mom refuses to sell him as he is still her son's favorite toy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mrs. Davis to hold onto Woody or take him back
up Merida to Andy's room.\\
'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest
for the occasion, yard sale and Merida leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David by knocking over some stuff with a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.
** In the middle of the film, the toys are looking for Woody in 'Al's Toy Barn', where early on, Rex picks up a magazine that tells him how to defeat Emporer Zurg in the 'Buzz Lightyear' Video Game, and then afterwards, they get a toy van to explore the toy store's different aisles in, with a 'Tour Guide Barbie' on the wheel. During all this, Rex is spending time looking at his magazine in the back seat.\\
'''You'd Expect''': that Rex
keeps her mouth shut the big magazine to himself without doing anything to disrupt Tour Guide Barbie while she is at the wheel.\\
'''Instead''': Upon finding something on the magazine that tells him how to defeat Zurg, he -for no good reason- shoves the whole magazine
in hopes front of devising the driver's view, resulting in them accidentally hitting a means large tub of bouncy balls, further causing the van to spin out of control and for Rex to have his 'Source of power,' the situation. Merida invokes LoopholeAbuse to win her own hand which threatens a four-way war, Elinor in a fury throws her daughter's bow into magazine fly out of his 'little arms' and underneath one of the fire, and Merida runs away in tears.
** A worse mess ensues because Merida meets a stranger, who she soon realizes is a druid. Despite knowing ''absolutely nothing'' about magic, she bargains
lower shelves out of his reach. He even almost gets left behind as he tries to catch up with this stranger the van that veered off without him.
* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''
** Andy is leaving
for a spell college, and his mother tells him he has to "change her fate".clear out his room. She gives him instructions that garbage bags hold trash, like his apple core, and cardboard boxes hold sentimental items for storage in the attic. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' Merida Expect''': Andy to listen follow his mother's instructions. Despite having outgrown all of his toys, he's deeply attached to the witch about "unhappy customers" and her hints of warning such as, "Are you sure you know what you're asking for?" She could take her time to think about the wording of the spell as well if she's going to go through with it, since "change" can lead to so many possibilities. Witches were also considered ''wisewomen'', so she could simply pay for advice on how to get out of an ArrangedMarriage.ones that survived his childhood.\\
'''Instead:''' Even after '''Instead''': He puts his toys in a garbage bag and leaves them below the druid ominously warns her attic door. Mrs. Davis on seeing the bag puts it in the trash. Later, Andy can't find his toys, and when he explains to his mother, she goes OhCrap. Fortunately, [[spoiler:the toys make it back before Andy leaves for college, and he thinks he just misplaced them, but still!]]
** Woody runs with a pair of scissors to save his friends, who manage to escape the garbage truck. By the time he catches up, however, they believe
that all magic Andy has consequences, Merida insists on purchasing the spell, as well as all the witch's carvings, abandoned them. Jessie is particularly hurt since it triggered her abandonment issues and pays no mind to the hints claustrophobia. Woody tells them that Andy was putting them in the witch is dropping. Then the spell turns her mother into a BrainwashedAndCrazy bear.
** Following this, Merida seeks to undo the spell by going back to the witch's cottage with her mother. That in itself is reasonable, but the witch has left behind a message with potions and a CurseEscapeClause that is coded with vagueness.
attic.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Expect''': That Merida they would become a little more cautious about magic.believe Woody, and return to the attic on their own, before Andy notices they're gone.\\
'''Instead:''' She immediately tries '''Instead''': The toys don't believe Woody, especially since Andy's taking him to fix her mother by...grabbing potions at random and pouring them into a nearby hearth. As her previous experience college. Jessie decides to go with magic clearly shows, this only makes Molly's abandoned Barbie to the problem worse. [[note]]Really, Merida's lucky that her antics ''only'' ended up terrifying herself, her mother and forcing them to sleep outside for the night.[[/note]]
** Once Merida and her mother figure out the CurseEscapeClause
local daycare. [[spoiler:They soon find that the witch left behind, Merida realizes daycare is a FalseUtopia for new toys, and its leader Lotso won't let them return when Mrs. Potato Head sees through her missing eye that she has Andy is looking for them. Jessie apologizes to mend the tapestry Woody when he comes back for them, lampshading that she ripped earlier with her sword in a fury. That means going back to the castle, getting toys were wrong.]]
** Lotso explains to Buzz how
the tapestry, "system" at Sunnyside works and sewing it.offers to let Buzz join his team and live in luxury in the Butterfly Room. Buzz doesn't question the system, accepting that it "makes sense," but declines the offer because he refuses to leave his friends.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Merida Lotso would say, "Okay," and let Buzz go willingly back to have her mother wait outside the castle after Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him to go in the latter shows her beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the secret entrance, opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and mend the tapestry quickly before bringing it out to drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is rest of Andy's toys still see him as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into wild bear form as she did by the river.a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.\\
'''Instead''': Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her For no apparent reason, Lotso brainwashes Buzz into serving him, then goes and informs the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and Merida needs her mother's help to find the needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a wild bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is rest of Andy's toys that Fergus is on they're not allowed to leave, revealing that them ending up in the bear hunt again, Merida Caterpillar Room wasn't a mistake and her mother haven't mended that Sunnyside "isn't a family, it's a prison," which, of course, leads to the tapestry or broken rebellion that he tries to have Buzz stop, even though it was triggered by Lotso brainwashing Buzz and having him attack the curse, others.
** [[spoiler: Woody, Buzz,
and the sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has other toys are on the conveyor belt at the dump. At first they think they're approaching daylight, but it turns out to be an ''enormous'' incinerator, which burns all the trash that falls into it. But they see a ladder which leads upward, and avoids being pushed into it, with a stop her father from killing her mother, and mend button that will halt the tapestry on horseback.
** Also after this happens Merida tearfully confesses to Fergus what happened with the spell and the witch.\\
conveyor belt if pressed.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': Fergus to take a moment to listen to his daughter, since even though he doesn't believe in magic it's odd that someone like [[ActionGirl Merida]] would protect a bear that slashed her, not to mention that said bear ran off in a fright after attacking him and her which isn't what Mordu did.\\
'''Instead''': Fergus pays no mind at all to what Merida says and locks her in the tapestry room for her "safety". He leads the lords on a bear hunt and nearly kills his wife. He then fights Merida when she stops him from shooting Bear!Elinor and cuts off his wooden leg, instead of listening to her, until the triplets tackle him in bear cub form and confirm her story, which makes him vulnerable when Mordu, the actual bear threat, appears.
* ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' has a few moments as well.
** While making the long trek back to headquarters, Joy and Sadness run into workers that send an EarWorm as a joke through recall tubes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\
'''Instead''': Joy insists that she has to personally take the core memories back to headquarters, not even letting the possibility cross her mind since the core memories are too valuable. This oversight ends up costing her and Sadness crucial time; when she
expect:''' [[spoiler: thinks to use the recall tubes to transport herself and the memories much later on, they collapse due to Honesty Island collapsing at the same time.]]
** Bing Bong points out a "shortcut" that says "DANGER- Keep Out". Bing Bong can't read, but Joy very well can. Sadness realizes what the danger is and warns Joy not to go in.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy
That Buzz or Woody themselves would listen try to Sadness's worries climb up the ladder and bypass hit the "shortcut," given the sign and all.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Bing Bong go in, with Sadness reluctantly following to help them out when they get turned into abstract thought. CessationOfExistence nearly ensues.
** The Train of Thought stops for the night, since Riley needs sleep. Joy is frantic since without the train they have a long journey ahead of them.
stop button before it's too late.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler:
They sneak into trust Lotso, the dream-making studios to try and wake Riley up.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Each emotion has alternating dream shift duty; Joy in fact was on one, and the dreams tend to be repetitive. Joy and Sadness after crashing the dream could try and send a message to Fear, Anger or Disgust through the images to not do anything rash and that Joy and Sadness are on their way back to headquarters. The dream has a WeirdnessCensor, but even Fear can see through most of it and criticize the quality.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Sadness only focus on waking Riley up, and Fear has no idea what's going on when he sees the strange nightmares that the other two emotions cause. Anger and Disgust chide him for waking Riley up during a nightmare, not realizing Joy's intentions due to miscommunication, and plant the idea for Riley to run away.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'':
** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That his siblings wouldn't mess up Arlo's chances. Or, alternatively, they could help him not fear them because while his fear is rational, it does make him TheMillstone.\\
'''Instead''': Buck, a BigBrotherBully, plays a prank on Arlo with the hens, which messes him up. He then knocks over Arlo when the latter gets understandably angry at him. This ends up starting a chain of events that leads to the father Henry dying and the family farm going to ruin.
** After this point the whole family sees Arlo raging at Buck. It's obvious that Buck played a prank on Arlo and has sabotaged the one time he's
tyrant who had previously tried not to be scared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Henry and his wife would give Buck a WhatTheHellHero speech and to help Arlo work smarter, not harder. The siblings should be supporting each other, and Arlo needs more time and confidence to make his mark.\\
'''Instead''': Buck doesn't get lectured, making him a KarmaHoudini because JerkassHasAPoint. While Henry does cheer up Arlo by taking him out at night to see fireflies, he decides it would be a ''bright'' idea
to have his youngest son capture a pest that's getting into their food, rather than help him with the hens. Arlo when he sees the pest, a tiny human he names Spot, can't kill them disposed of, to climb up it and frees it. Then when this happens, Henry takes him on a trip that ends press it himself. So he does climb up killing Henry and stranding Arlo far away from home. Arlo then has there...only to make pointedly ''not'' hit the trip with the human Spot, while dealing with his dad's death.button, leaving them to die.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': Lotso would say, "Okay," and let Buzz go willingly back to the Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him to go in the beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and the rets of Andy's toys still see him as a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Lotso would say, "Okay," and let Buzz go willingly back to the Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him to go in the beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and the rets rest of Andy's toys still see him as a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.\\
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** Lotso explains to Buzz how the "system" at Sunnyside works and offers to let Buzz join his team and live in luxury in the Butterfly Room. Buzz doesn't question the system, accepting that it "makes sense," but declines the offer because he refuses to leave his friends.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Lotso would say, "Okay," and let Buzz go willingly back to the Caterpillar Room (where Lotso originally planned for him to go in the beginning) with his friends. There's no threat of rebellion at this point (just the opposite, in fact!), no danger to his system continuing to run as it always has. Buzz and the rets of Andy's toys still see him as a benevolent leader doing what's best for everyone.\\
'''Instead''': For no apparent reason, Lotso brainwashes Buzz into serving him, then goes and informs the rest of Andy's toys that they're not allowed to leave, revealing that them ending up in the Caterpillar Room wasn't a mistake and that Sunnyside "isn't a family, it's a prison," which, of course, leads to the rebellion that he tries to have Buzz stop, even though it was triggered by Lotso brainwashing Buzz and having him attack the others.
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'''You'd Expect''': Merida to have her mother wait outside the castle after the latter shows her the secret entrance, and mend the tapestry quickly before bringing it out to drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into feral bear form as she did by the river.\\
'''Instead''': Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her into the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and Merida needs her mother's help to find the needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a feral bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is that Fergus is on the bear hunt again, Merida and her mother haven't mended the tapestry or broken the curse, and the sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has to stop her father from killing her mother, and mend the tapestry on horseback.

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'''You'd Expect''': Merida to have her mother wait outside the castle after the latter shows her the secret entrance, and mend the tapestry quickly before bringing it out to drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into feral wild bear form as she did by the river.\\
'''Instead''': Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her into the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and Merida needs her mother's help to find the needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a feral wild bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is that Fergus is on the bear hunt again, Merida and her mother haven't mended the tapestry or broken the curse, and the sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has to stop her father from killing her mother, and mend the tapestry on horseback.
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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]

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'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso Lotso, the tyrant who had previously tried to have them disposed of, to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]
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'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\

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'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\

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* ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'':
** The dentist plans on offering Nemo to his young niece as a gift. Unfortunately Darla is an uneducated SpoiledBrat who accidentally killed her last fish when she wouldn't stop shaking the bag. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' The dentist to offer her something she can't accidentally kill, or at least teach her how to properly care for her pets to ensure the same thing doesn't happen again. \\
'''Instead:''' He decides to go ahead and offer Nemo to her anyway. Then, after Nemo pretends to go belly-up, he leaves the bag ''right there'' where Darla can see it. What does she do? Why, she proceeds to start violently shaking the bag to "wake up" the fish. If it weren't for Gill's intervention, Nemo would have surely died.



* ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'':
** The dentist plans on offering Nemo to his young niece as a gift. Unfortunately Darla is an uneducated SpoiledBrat who accidentally killed her last fish when she wouldn't stop shaking the bag. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' The dentist to offer her something she can't accidentally kill, or at least teach her how to properly care for her pets to ensure the same thing doesn't happen again. \\
'''Instead:''' He decides to go ahead and offer Nemo to her anyway. Then, after Nemo pretends to go belly-up, he leaves the bag ''right there'' where Darla can see it. What does she do? Why, she proceeds to start violently shaking the bag to "wake up" the fish. If it weren't for Gill's intervention, Nemo would have surely died.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'':
** Alfredo Linguini, a young clumsy man whose mother has died recently, comes to Gusteau's asking for a job. Chef Skinner doesn't like him, but he accepts his second-in-command hiring Linguini for the menial garbage boy position. However, while mopping he accidentally knocks a pot of soup over.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Linguini to take responsibility for the mistake and promise to be more careful in future. It's not likely that he'd be fired for a single relatively minor mistake..\\
'''Instead''': Linguini on an impulse decides to recreate by throwing in random ingredients making the soup taste terrible. He nearly gets fired because Chef Skinner catches him with a ladle in his hand, and would have lost his job if Remy hadn't been watching and fixed the soup in record time. Chef Skinner decides to hold a grudge against Linguini as a result and watch him closely while hiring him as a chef on probation.
** Following this, Linguini and Remy form an alliance so that Remy can cook for Linguini in the kitchen. They come up with a system so that when Remy pulls on Linguini's hair, Linguini's body moves like a marionette.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Linguini while working with Remy would start writing the recipes down, or figure out a way to communicate with the rat. Remy can't write but he can read, and Linguini can understand most of his miming. Practically speaking there may be occasions of them getting separated, or even Linguini wanting to give Remy a night off. If on the off-chance their relationship goes sour, which it does, Linguini will be able to tell the other chefs how to replicate the dishes like Linguini's Sweetbread. Linguini also has the capability to take notes and listen, as he does when Collette mentors him.\\
'''Instead''': Linguini doesn't think this far ahead. While he accuses Remy of treating him like a puppet after a silly argument over the press and the reviewer Anton Ego and then [[spoiler:kicks him out of the kitchen when Remy leads hordes of rats into the restaurant out of spite, the next day]] he realizes that without "Little Chef"'s recipes the kitchen can't function and impress Ego with a new dish. [[spoiler: ''Collette'' manages to do this, by cooking alongside Remy when she talks to him and he shows her his way of making ratatouille.]]
** After customers tire of Linguini's soup, they ask him to make something new. Skinner is shocked, and suspicious that Linguini is SmarterThanYouLook after reading the letter from Renata that Linguini is [[spoiler:Gusteau's son. Skinner is waiting on a DNA test to see if this is true.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Skinner would realize that sabotaging Linguini on preparing a new dish could easily cause the restaurant to lose another star. \\
'''Instead''': Skinner spitefully orders Colette and Linguini to prepare a sweetbread recipe that Gusteau considered "terrible". He hopes this will discredit Linguini, at the cost of the restaurant's reputation. Fortunately, Remy fixes the recipe and prepares it before Colette can stop "Linguini" from changing it. Skinner only then realizes how "good" this is and the near miss he had, before interrogating Linguini with wine.
** After the night of success with changing a sweetbread recipe, and Remy reuniting with his family, he returns to the restaurant to find Linguini passed out on the kitchen floor after a night of cleaning while drunk. Remy hears Collette entering as well.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Remy to let Collette find Linguini sleeping. It's not a bad thing given the kitchen is clean and that he performed double duty as garbage boy and chef, which means that to Collette either Linguini is a dedicated worker or the boss's puppy to kick.\\
'''Instead''': Remy uses his marionette skills and a pair of sunglasses to feign that Linguini is awake, and Collette takes offense with how Linguini won't talk about his night talking to the boss since if not for her, he wouldn't have made it so far.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'':
** Alfredo Linguini, a young clumsy man whose mother has died recently, comes to Gusteau's asking for a job. Chef Skinner doesn't like him, but he accepts his second-in-command hiring Linguini for the menial garbage boy position. However, while mopping he accidentally knocks a pot of soup over.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Linguini to take responsibility for the mistake and promise to be more careful in future. It's not likely that he'd be fired for a single relatively minor mistake..\\
'''Instead''': Linguini on an impulse decides to recreate by throwing in random ingredients making the soup taste terrible. He nearly gets fired because Chef Skinner catches him with a ladle in his hand, and would have lost his job if Remy hadn't been watching and fixed the soup in record time. Chef Skinner decides to hold a grudge against Linguini as a result and watch him closely while hiring him as a chef on probation.
** Following this, Linguini and Remy form an alliance so that Remy can cook for Linguini in the kitchen. They come up with a system so that when Remy pulls on Linguini's hair, Linguini's body moves like a marionette.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Linguini while working with Remy would start writing the recipes down, or figure out a way to communicate with the rat. Remy can't write but he can read, and Linguini can understand most of his miming. Practically speaking there may be occasions of them getting separated, or even Linguini wanting to give Remy a night off. If on the off-chance their relationship goes sour, which it does, Linguini will be able to tell the other chefs how to replicate the dishes like Linguini's Sweetbread. Linguini also has the capability to take notes and listen, as he does when Collette mentors him.\\
'''Instead''': Linguini doesn't think this far ahead. While he accuses Remy of treating him like a puppet after a silly argument over the press and the reviewer Anton Ego and then [[spoiler:kicks him out of the kitchen when Remy leads hordes of rats into the restaurant out of spite, the next day]] he realizes that without "Little Chef"'s recipes the kitchen can't function and impress Ego with a new dish. [[spoiler: ''Collette'' manages to do this, by cooking alongside Remy when she talks to him and he shows her his way of making ratatouille.]]
** After customers tire of Linguini's soup, they ask him to make something new. Skinner is shocked, and suspicious that Linguini is SmarterThanYouLook after reading the letter from Renata that Linguini is [[spoiler:Gusteau's son. Skinner is waiting on a DNA test to see if this is true.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Skinner would realize that sabotaging Linguini on preparing a new dish could easily cause the restaurant to lose another star. \\
'''Instead''': Skinner spitefully orders Colette and Linguini to prepare a sweetbread recipe that Gusteau considered "terrible". He hopes this will discredit Linguini, at the cost of the restaurant's reputation. Fortunately, Remy fixes the recipe and prepares it before Colette can stop "Linguini" from changing it. Skinner only then realizes how "good" this is and the near miss he had, before interrogating Linguini with wine.
** After the night of success with changing a sweetbread recipe, and Remy reuniting with his family, he returns to the restaurant to find Linguini passed out on the kitchen floor after a night of cleaning while drunk. Remy hears Collette entering as well.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Remy to let Collette find Linguini sleeping. It's not a bad thing given the kitchen is clean and that he performed double duty as garbage boy and chef, which means that to Collette either Linguini is a dedicated worker or the boss's puppy to kick.\\
'''Instead''': Remy uses his marionette skills and a pair of sunglasses to feign that Linguini is awake, and Collette takes offense with how Linguini won't talk about his night talking to the boss since if not for her, he wouldn't have made it so far.
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** The whole "shoot the plane" down scenario happens when Elastigirl accidentally activate a tracking device in Incredible's suit which gets him caught in Syndrome's secret lair. Mr. Incredible is honest when he says he didn't know about that, and he says PleaseIWillDoAnything when he realizes that Helen's the pilot asking for permission to land.\\

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** The whole "shoot the plane" down scenario happens when Elastigirl Helen accidentally activate activates a tracking device in Incredible's suit which gets him caught in Syndrome's secret lair. Mr. Incredible is honest when he says he didn't know about that, and he says PleaseIWillDoAnything when he realizes that Helen's the pilot asking for permission to land.\\
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** Bob due to this terrible job placement loses his position at the insurance company. He doesn't dare tell Helen this, or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\

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** Bob due to this terrible job placement loses his position at the insurance company. [[UnconfessedUnemployment He doesn't dare tell Helen this, this]], or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\
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** Following this, Syndrome profiles all of his super victims so that his robot can be the perfect patsy for his [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero ploy]]. Mr. Incredible for him is a personal project, given Incredible was once his hero and who disappointed him in a BrokenPedestal moment.\\

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** Following this, Syndrome profiles all of his super victims so that his robot can be the perfect patsy for his [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero [[spoiler:EngineeredHeroics ploy]]. Mr. Incredible for him is a personal project, given Incredible was once his hero and who disappointed him in a BrokenPedestal moment.\\
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'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.

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'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window window, turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.
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'''Instead''': Scoffing the page quote out of spite, He still chooses his idea of hiding from the humans, which is to sit in the bed; with disastrous consequences.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'':
** A major moment of this type occurs in the first movie. Buzz and Woody are trying to find Andy when they see that their only chance is to use a Pizza Planet delivery vehicle, a small pickup truck. Woody wants the two of them to ride in the bed, notifying that "no one will see them there." However, Buzz warns him that "There are no restraining harnesses in the cargo area." As it turns out, despite Woody's warnings, there apparently happens to be a stack of pizza packages between the driver's seat and the passenger's, which is enough to obscure Buzz from the driver's view.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody would realize that Buzz has a point and to sit somewhere in the front where the humans won't see him.\\
'''Instead''': Scoffing the page quote out of spite, He still chooses his idea of hiding from the humans, which is to sit in the bed; with disastrous consequences.
** Later on, when Buzz gets separated from Woody on the moving truck, Woody plans on using RC to drive him back.\\
'''You'd expect''': Woody to tell the rest of Andy's toys that Buzz is out there and to prove it by using Lenny (a pair of toy binoculars). That way the rest of the toys can help him bring Buzz back to the truck.\\
'''Instead''': He doesn't say a thing and the moment he pushes RC off the truck, the rest of the toys, still upset that he knocked Buzz out the window turn on him. Their antics almost cause Buzz to get knocked off RC and they eventually throw Woody off the truck. When they look through the binoculars and realize he's telling the truth, all their subsequent efforts fail.
* Near the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', Woody has ended up found by a toy collector named Al in Yard Sale while trying to save another toy from being sold, but Andy's mom refuses to sell him as he is still her son's favorite toy.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Mrs. Davis to hold onto Woody or take him back up to Andy's room.\\
'''Instead:''' She merely locks him in her money chest for the yard sale and leaves. Al distracts Mrs. David by knocking over some stuff with a skateboard and then picks the lock to the chest and steals Woody.
** In the middle of the film, the toys are looking for Woody in 'Al's Toy Barn', where early on, Rex picks up a magazine that tells him how to defeat Emporer Zurg in the 'Buzz Lightyear' Video Game, and then afterwards, they get a toy van to explore the toy store's different aisles in, with a 'Tour Guide Barbie' on the wheel. During all this, Rex is spending time looking at his magazine in the back seat.\\
'''You'd Expect''': that Rex keeps the big magazine to himself without doing anything to disrupt Tour Guide Barbie while she is at the wheel.\\
'''Instead''': Upon finding something on the magazine that tells him how to defeat Zurg, he -for no good reason- shoves the whole magazine in front of the driver's view, resulting in them accidentally hitting a large tub of bouncy balls, further causing the van to spin out of control and for Rex to have his 'Source of power,' the magazine fly out of his 'little arms' and underneath one of the lower shelves out of his reach. He even almost gets left behind as he tries to catch up with the van that veered off without him.
* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''
** Andy is leaving for college, and his mother tells him he has to clear out his room. She gives him instructions that garbage bags hold trash, like his apple core, and cardboard boxes hold sentimental items for storage in the attic. \\
'''You'd Expect''': Andy to follow his mother's instructions. Despite having outgrown all of his toys, he's deeply attached to the ones that survived his childhood.\\
'''Instead''': He puts his toys in a garbage bag and leaves them below the attic door. Mrs. Davis on seeing the bag puts it in the trash. Later, Andy can't find his toys, and when he explains to his mother, she goes OhCrap. Fortunately, [[spoiler:the toys make it back before Andy leaves for college, and he thinks he just misplaced them, but still!]]
** Woody runs with a pair of scissors to save his friends, who manage to escape the garbage truck. By the time he catches up, however, they believe that Andy has abandoned them. Jessie is particularly hurt since it triggered her abandonment issues and claustrophobia. Woody tells them that Andy was putting them in the attic.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That they would believe Woody, and return to the attic on their own, before Andy notices they're gone.\\
'''Instead''': The toys don't believe Woody, especially since Andy's taking him to college. Jessie decides to go with Molly's abandoned Barbie to the local daycare. [[spoiler:They soon find that the daycare is a FalseUtopia for new toys, and its leader Lotso won't let them return when Mrs. Potato Head sees through her missing eye that Andy is looking for them. Jessie apologizes to Woody when he comes back for them, lampshading that the toys were wrong.]]
** [[spoiler: Woody, Buzz, and the other toys are on the conveyor belt at the dump. At first they think they're approaching daylight, but it turns out to be an ''enormous'' incinerator, which burns all the trash that falls into it. But they see a ladder which leads upward, and avoids being pushed into it, with a stop button that will halt the conveyor belt if pressed.]]\\
'''You'd expect:''' [[spoiler: That Buzz or Woody themselves would try to climb up the ladder and hit the stop button before it's too late.]]\\
'''Instead:''' [[spoiler: They trust Lotso to climb up it and press it himself. So he does climb up there...only to pointedly ''not'' hit the button, leaving them to die.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''
** As a result of being sued by the public as a whole [[UngratefulBastard despite having their lives saved]], all the heroes have to go into hiding, making them unable come into action when a supervillain shows up.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Realizing that there are no more superheroes to stop them, the villains would team up and declare an all out war against the world and thanks to the superheroes negative reputation, can either kill off mass number of people or commit several bank heists unhindered.\\
'''Instead:''' For some reason, the villains also just as mysteriously disappear with the sole exception of Syndrome giving the general public even more reason to hate on the heroes because they blame them for any disasters going on essentially making the whole populace a massive KarmaHoudini.
** The supers following a series of lawsuits have to go underground; the government helps them build civilian identities and find new jobs.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The government would put supers in jobs that they want to do, and where they will excel and where they won't arouse suspicion. Bob would do great as a cop or firefighter, for example, due to his durability and desire to help people, and no one would think twice of him helping to carry fire victims due to his bulk. A private business owner (like Syndome) could easily hire away supers to use their powers as secret police or for an army, and that would be a liability.\\
'''Instead''': The government job placement is incredibly terrible. Bob is stuck in one dead-end office job after another; his latest is working for a CorruptCorporateExecutive who hates that insurance clients are finding loopholes to get the claim they want. Bob ends up sending that executive through about ten walls after the latter refuses to let him help a man getting mugged outside, and the loss of his job makes him vulnerable and desperate enough to accept the mysterious offer from Mirage. Judging by the number of other supers that [[spoiler:Syndome has hired away and killed]], the government has been doing a terrible job with it.
** Bob due to this terrible job placement loses his position at the insurance company. He doesn't dare tell Helen this, or that he's accepted a better paying position with a private employer that knows his secret identity. This new job pays triple his previous salary, which is enough to buy two new cars, and makes him happy. [[spoiler:He doesn't know that his employer Syndrome will kill him in good time.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': That eventually he would tell Helen that he "got transferred" to another company, or at least to give her updated contact information for when he goes to the island to do odd jobs. This way if there's an emergency, like Jack Jack running a fever or the kids being in trouble, then she can contact him and he can jet back to the mainland.\\
'''Instead''': Bob never tells Helen or gives her updated contact information, which he admits that he should have with hindsight. When [[spoiler:Syndrome tries to kill him]], he has no way of calling for backup, since Helen was also a hero and as it turns out a licensed pilot. Helen as a result finds out much later that he was fired, and has no way of contacting him when suspecting him of having an affair. Edna Mode tells her to activate the tracking device in his new suit, which causes Bob to get caught [[spoiler:and tortured when Syndrome thinks that Mr. Incredible is dead]].
** Following this, Syndrome profiles all of his super victims so that his robot can be the perfect patsy for his [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero ploy]]. Mr. Incredible for him is a personal project, given Incredible was once his hero and who disappointed him in a BrokenPedestal moment.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Syndrome would keep all tabs on Mr. Incredible, including finding out about his family and their powers. This isn't just being a collector; super powers are genetic, which means his family might be able to save Mr. Incredible, and Syndrome can anticipate setbacks to killing and later imprisoning Incredible.\\
'''Instead''': Syndrome leaves this up to Mirage, who discreetly leaves Mr. Incredible's family out of the picture when sending Syndrome his information; it's implied that EvenEvilHasStandards given her horror when Syndrome plans to blow up a plane [[spoiler:with children aboard-- INCREDIBLE'S CHILDREN]]. This allows Helen to save herself and the kids given she's Elastigirl, something Syndrome finds out much later, and for Violet to bust her family out of their force-field prison.
** The whole "shoot the plane" down scenario happens when Elastigirl accidentally activate a tracking device in Incredible's suit which gets him caught in Syndrome's secret lair. Mr. Incredible is honest when he says he didn't know about that, and he says PleaseIWillDoAnything when he realizes that Helen's the pilot asking for permission to land.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Syndrome to realize that having live hostages to torment Mr. Incredible would be more valuable than dead ones, especially since he knows "Helen," the pilot, and the "children" aboard, and that they might be in the know about Incredible's secret identity. In addition, he can make sure that no one else knows about the island by interrogating the plane members. He could pretend to give her permission to land, invoke IHaveYourWife and forcibly interrogate Helen about HaveYouToldAnyoneElse. Mr. Incredible won't fight back if his family is in danger.\\
'''Instead''': Syndrome for petty reasons gives the orders to shoot the plane down, and taunts Incredible about how he "works alone," has nothing to lose and still refuses to snap Mirage's neck after taking her hostage. This leads to Helen and the kids surviving the crash, Mirage turning on Syndrome for disregarding her life, and Mr. Incredible nearly killing Mirage for real after she frees him. All these parties when they work together contribute to Syndrome's inevitable downfall.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''
** The whole plot kicks off when Queen Elinor receives notification that three tribes will send suitors to win her daughter Merida's hand. Merida's not keen on the idea, and the two have a row about it. Fergus convinces Elinor to practice speaking with him as if he's Merida, and Merida carries on a similar conversation with her horse Angus.
*** '''You'd expect''': Elinor after practicing talking to Merida with Fergus would seek her daughter out, and Merida would do the same. They both have good intentions, each not trying to hurt the other, and they can find middle ground, which they later do find.\\
'''Instead''': Elinor keeps her words to herself while dressing up Merida for the occasion, and Merida keeps her mouth shut in hopes of devising a means out of the situation. Merida invokes LoopholeAbuse to win her own hand which threatens a four-way war, Elinor in a fury throws her daughter's bow into the fire, and Merida runs away in tears.
** A worse mess ensues because Merida meets a stranger, who she soon realizes is a druid. Despite knowing ''absolutely nothing'' about magic, she bargains with this stranger for a spell to "change her fate". \\
'''You'd Expect:''' Merida to listen to the witch about "unhappy customers" and her hints of warning such as, "Are you sure you know what you're asking for?" She could take her time to think about the wording of the spell as well if she's going to go through with it, since "change" can lead to so many possibilities. Witches were also considered ''wisewomen'', so she could simply pay for advice on how to get out of an ArrangedMarriage.\\
'''Instead:''' Even after the druid ominously warns her that all magic has consequences, Merida insists on purchasing the spell, as well as all the witch's carvings, and pays no mind to the hints that the witch is dropping. Then the spell turns her mother into a BrainwashedAndCrazy bear.
** Following this, Merida seeks to undo the spell by going back to the witch's cottage with her mother. That in itself is reasonable, but the witch has left behind a message with potions and a CurseEscapeClause that is coded with vagueness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Merida would become a little more cautious about magic.\\
'''Instead:''' She immediately tries to fix her mother by...grabbing potions at random and pouring them into a nearby hearth. As her previous experience with magic clearly shows, this only makes the problem worse. [[note]]Really, Merida's lucky that her antics ''only'' ended up terrifying herself, her mother and forcing them to sleep outside for the night.[[/note]]
** Once Merida and her mother figure out the CurseEscapeClause that the witch left behind, Merida realizes that she has to mend the tapestry that she ripped earlier with her sword in a fury. That means going back to the castle, getting the tapestry, and sewing it.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Merida to have her mother wait outside the castle after the latter shows her the secret entrance, and mend the tapestry quickly before bringing it out to drape over her mother. As Merida put it earlier, Bear!Elinor in Fergus's castle is as good as dead if anyone sees her, and Elinor could easily revert into feral bear form as she did by the river.\\
'''Instead''': Merida brings her mother with her, and barely gets her into the room with the tapestry. While Elinor helps Merida negotiate a compromise with the lords with some creative charades, she also reverts to bear form just when Fergus discovers his wife's torn dress in their room and Merida needs her mother's help to find the needle and thread. Fergus on seeing what he thinks is a feral bear attacking his daughter, and Merida defending said bear, draws his sword and a fight ensues. The end result is that Fergus is on the bear hunt again, Merida and her mother haven't mended the tapestry or broken the curse, and the sunrise deadline is closer than ever. Merida then has to stop her father from killing her mother, and mend the tapestry on horseback.
** Also after this happens Merida tearfully confesses to Fergus what happened with the spell and the witch.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Fergus to take a moment to listen to his daughter, since even though he doesn't believe in magic it's odd that someone like [[ActionGirl Merida]] would protect a bear that slashed her, not to mention that said bear ran off in a fright after attacking him and her which isn't what Mordu did.\\
'''Instead''': Fergus pays no mind at all to what Merida says and locks her in the tapestry room for her "safety". He leads the lords on a bear hunt and nearly kills his wife. He then fights Merida when she stops him from shooting Bear!Elinor and cuts off his wooden leg, instead of listening to her, until the triplets tackle him in bear cub form and confirm her story, which makes him vulnerable when Mordu, the actual bear threat, appears.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'':
** Alfredo Linguini, a young clumsy man whose mother has died recently, comes to Gusteau's asking for a job. Chef Skinner doesn't like him, but he accepts his second-in-command hiring Linguini for the menial garbage boy position. However, while mopping he accidentally knocks a pot of soup over.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Linguini to take responsibility for the mistake and promise to be more careful in future. It's not likely that he'd be fired for a single relatively minor mistake..\\
'''Instead''': Linguini on an impulse decides to recreate by throwing in random ingredients making the soup taste terrible. He nearly gets fired because Chef Skinner catches him with a ladle in his hand, and would have lost his job if Remy hadn't been watching and fixed the soup in record time. Chef Skinner decides to hold a grudge against Linguini as a result and watch him closely while hiring him as a chef on probation.
** Following this, Linguini and Remy form an alliance so that Remy can cook for Linguini in the kitchen. They come up with a system so that when Remy pulls on Linguini's hair, Linguini's body moves like a marionette.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Linguini while working with Remy would start writing the recipes down, or figure out a way to communicate with the rat. Remy can't write but he can read, and Linguini can understand most of his miming. Practically speaking there may be occasions of them getting separated, or even Linguini wanting to give Remy a night off. If on the off-chance their relationship goes sour, which it does, Linguini will be able to tell the other chefs how to replicate the dishes like Linguini's Sweetbread. Linguini also has the capability to take notes and listen, as he does when Collette mentors him.\\
'''Instead''': Linguini doesn't think this far ahead. While he accuses Remy of treating him like a puppet after a silly argument over the press and the reviewer Anton Ego and then [[spoiler:kicks him out of the kitchen when Remy leads hordes of rats into the restaurant out of spite, the next day]] he realizes that without "Little Chef"'s recipes the kitchen can't function and impress Ego with a new dish. [[spoiler: ''Collette'' manages to do this, by cooking alongside Remy when she talks to him and he shows her his way of making ratatouille.]]
** After customers tire of Linguini's soup, they ask him to make something new. Skinner is shocked, and suspicious that Linguini is SmarterThanYouLook after reading the letter from Renata that Linguini is [[spoiler:Gusteau's son. Skinner is waiting on a DNA test to see if this is true.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Skinner would realize that sabotaging Linguini on preparing a new dish could easily cause the restaurant to lose another star. \\
'''Instead''': Skinner spitefully orders Colette and Linguini to prepare a sweetbread recipe that Gusteau considered "terrible". He hopes this will discredit Linguini, at the cost of the restaurant's reputation. Fortunately, Remy fixes the recipe and prepares it before Colette can stop "Linguini" from changing it. Skinner only then realizes how "good" this is and the near miss he had, before interrogating Linguini with wine.
** After the night of success with changing a sweetbread recipe, and Remy reuniting with his family, he returns to the restaurant to find Linguini passed out on the kitchen floor after a night of cleaning while drunk. Remy hears Collette entering as well.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Remy to let Collette find Linguini sleeping. It's not a bad thing given the kitchen is clean and that he performed double duty as garbage boy and chef, which means that to Collette either Linguini is a dedicated worker or the boss's puppy to kick.\\
'''Instead''': Remy uses his marionette skills and a pair of sunglasses to feign that Linguini is awake, and Collette takes offense with how Linguini won't talk about his night talking to the boss since if not for her, he wouldn't have made it so far.
* ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' has a few moments as well.
** While making the long trek back to headquarters, Joy and Sadness run into workers that send an EarWorm as a joke through recall tubes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would send several of the core memories up to tide Anger, Disgust and Fear using those same tubes, as WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded noted, so that the remaining personality islands don't collapse as Sadness and Joy make the long trek back, using the Train of Thought. \\
'''Instead''': Joy insists that she has to personally take the core memories back to headquarters, not even letting the possibility cross her mind since the core memories are too valuable. This oversight ends up costing her and Sadness crucial time; when she [[spoiler: thinks to use the recall tubes to transport herself and the memories much later on, they collapse due to Honesty Island collapsing at the same time.]]
** Bing Bong points out a "shortcut" that says "DANGER- Keep Out". Bing Bong can't read, but Joy very well can. Sadness realizes what the danger is and warns Joy not to go in.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Joy would listen to Sadness's worries and bypass the "shortcut," given the sign and all.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Bing Bong go in, with Sadness reluctantly following to help them out when they get turned into abstract thought. CessationOfExistence nearly ensues.
** The Train of Thought stops for the night, since Riley needs sleep. Joy is frantic since without the train they have a long journey ahead of them. They sneak into the dream-making studios to try and wake Riley up.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Each emotion has alternating dream shift duty; Joy in fact was on one, and the dreams tend to be repetitive. Joy and Sadness after crashing the dream could try and send a message to Fear, Anger or Disgust through the images to not do anything rash and that Joy and Sadness are on their way back to headquarters. The dream has a WeirdnessCensor, but even Fear can see through most of it and criticize the quality.\\
'''Instead''': Joy and Sadness only focus on waking Riley up, and Fear has no idea what's going on when he sees the strange nightmares that the other two emotions cause. Anger and Disgust chide him for waking Riley up during a nightmare, not realizing Joy's intentions due to miscommunication, and plant the idea for Riley to run away.
* ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'':
** The dentist plans on offering Nemo to his young niece as a gift. Unfortunately Darla is an uneducated SpoiledBrat who accidentally killed her last fish when she wouldn't stop shaking the bag. \\
'''You'd Expect:''' The dentist to offer her something she can't accidentally kill, or at least teach her how to properly care for her pets to ensure the same thing doesn't happen again. \\
'''Instead:''' He decides to go ahead and offer Nemo to her anyway. Then, after Nemo pretends to go belly-up, he leaves the bag ''right there'' where Darla can see it. What does she do? Why, she proceeds to start violently shaking the bag to "wake up" the fish. If it weren't for Gill's intervention, Nemo would have surely died.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'':
** In a world where the dinosaurs survived and have become settlers, Henry and his wife have three children. TheRuntAtTheEnd, Arlo, is trying to earn his mark like his older siblings by feeding the hens. The only problem? The hens are bigger than him and keep attacking him. He also messes with his siblings' chores while running from the chickens. Eventually Arlo gets tired of this and tries to face the hens and shove down his fear.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That his siblings wouldn't mess up Arlo's chances. Or, alternatively, they could help him not fear them because while his fear is rational, it does make him TheMillstone.\\
'''Instead''': Buck, a BigBrotherBully, plays a prank on Arlo with the hens, which messes him up. He then knocks over Arlo when the latter gets understandably angry at him. This ends up starting a chain of events that leads to the father Henry dying and the family farm going to ruin.
** After this point the whole family sees Arlo raging at Buck. It's obvious that Buck played a prank on Arlo and has sabotaged the one time he's tried not to be scared.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Henry and his wife would give Buck a WhatTheHellHero speech and to help Arlo work smarter, not harder. The siblings should be supporting each other, and Arlo needs more time and confidence to make his mark.\\
'''Instead''': Buck doesn't get lectured, making him a KarmaHoudini because JerkassHasAPoint. While Henry does cheer up Arlo by taking him out at night to see fireflies, he decides it would be a ''bright'' idea to have his youngest son capture a pest that's getting into their food, rather than help him with the hens. Arlo when he sees the pest, a tiny human he names Spot, can't kill it and frees it. Then when this happens, Henry takes him on a trip that ends up killing Henry and stranding Arlo far away from home. Arlo then has to make the trip with the human Spot, while dealing with his dad's death.

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