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'''Bonus Points''': He leaves Vera with Lombard, whom he somewhat suspects of being the killer. If Lombard actually was the killer, he could have killed Vera and shot Blore.\\

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'''Bonus Points''': He leaves Vera with Lombard, whom he somewhat suspects of being the killer. If Lombard actually was the killer, he could have killed Vera and shot Blore.\\
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'''To be fair''': He doesn't have the gun out, and he's a "seasoned adventurer" and a bit of a chauvinist. He doesn't believe she could possibly get the drop on him, and it proves to be one of his fatal mistakes.\\

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'''To be fair''': He doesn't have the gun out, and he's a "seasoned adventurer" and a bit of a chauvinist. He doesn't believe she could possibly get the drop on him, and it proves to be one of his fatal mistakes.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place himself to be facing the door.\\
'''Or''': Bring people with him to avoid being killed while alone.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place placed himself to be facing the door.\\
'''Or''': Bring He'd bring people with him to avoid being killed while alone.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place himself to be facing the door\\ '''Or''': Bring people with him to avoid being killed while alone.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place himself to be facing the door\\ door.\\
'''Or''': Bring people with him to avoid being killed while alone.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place himself to be facing the door.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Him to not place himself in a really obvious position to be murdered, especially if it fits the rhyme as perfectly as possible. If he had to chop wood, he should have at least place himself to be facing the door.door\\ '''Or''': Bring people with him to avoid being killed while alone.\\



'''You'd Expect''': Lombard or Blore to realize that it is physically impossible for Vera to have committed the murder, given she was the focus of attention the entire time. It's impossible to be sure, but one could speculate that Lombard'd give Vera the revolver or something for safekeeping. At any rate suspicion would be off Vera, possibly to the point of Lombard piecing together who the culprit is.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Lombard or Blore to realize that it is physically impossible for Vera to have committed the murder, given she was the focus of attention the entire time. It's impossible to be sure, but one could speculate that Lombard'd Lombard would give Vera the revolver or something for safekeeping. At any rate suspicion would be off Vera, possibly to the point of Lombard piecing together who the culprit is.\\

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You aren't supposed to add "to be fair" type things to entries. If you think there is a logical justification for the idiocy (which I don't mind most of these to be), remove it instead. I'm only ok with the Blore one because that one makes it clear it was no good excuse.


'''It gets better''': Wargrave actually poisoned Mrs. Rogers by poisoning her tea. How was this never discussed as a possibility?\\
'''To be fair''': Wargrave does admit that Mrs. Rogers MAY be confused by the appearance of himself, or someone like Lombard appearing in her room with something for her to take, but reasons that if they simply told her that the doctor told them to give it to her, that she'd have taken it without too much thought, as there were no hints that they were being murdered at that point.

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'''It gets better''': Wargrave The murderer actually poisoned Mrs. Rogers by poisoning her tea. How was this This never discussed as a possibility?\\
'''To be fair''': Wargrave does admit that Mrs. Rogers MAY be confused by the appearance of himself, or someone like Lombard appearing in her room with something for her to take, but reasons that if they simply told her that the doctor told them to give it to her, that she'd have taken it without too much thought, as there were no hints that they were being murdered at that point.
possibility.



'''As a result''': She avoids being murdered (probably because the killer had no idea she'd do something like that) but she is considered suspicious by everyone because of how careless she was.\\
'''To be fair''': It doesn't matter much, as she's the next victim after they find Rogers dead.

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'''As a result''': She avoids being murdered (probably because the killer had no idea she'd do something like that) but she is considered suspicious by everyone because of how careless she was.\\
'''To be fair''': It doesn't matter much, as she's the next victim after they find Rogers dead.



'''As a result''': He gets easily murdered, just like the rhyme.\\
'''To be fair''': Rogers was a product of his station, and also may have been working to keep himself occupied from thinking about his wife's death. Her dying doesn't stop him from preparing meals for the other guests, and he continues doing tasks such as polishing the silver and preparing meals and cleaning up even AFTER they have determined a killer is among them. He also locks up the statuettes in a cupboard and locks up the room without even stopping for a second to consider that doing so may put a target on his back.

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'''As a result''': He gets easily murdered, just like the rhyme.\\
'''To be fair''': Rogers was a product of his station, and also may have been working to keep himself occupied from thinking about his wife's death. Her dying doesn't stop him from preparing meals for the other guests, and he continues doing tasks such as polishing the silver and preparing meals and cleaning up even AFTER they have determined a killer is among them. He also locks up the statuettes in a cupboard and locks up the room without even stopping for a second to consider that doing so may put a target on his back.



'''As a result''': His gun is stolen.\\
'''Also''': At this time, the only people who knew he had a gun were Armstrong and Blore, making them fairly obvious suspects. He never mentions this to anyone.\\
'''To be fair''': The others know about the revolver, because Blore tells them at one point. It's the judge who asks for Lombard to produce it so it can be locked up after Emily Brent's death, not Blore. Therefore, it's not just Blore or Armstrong that are likely suspects to have taken it, anyone could have, since pretty much everyone knew he had it.

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'''As a result''': His gun is stolen.\\
'''Also''': At this time, the only people who knew he had a gun were Armstrong and Blore, making them fairly obvious suspects. He never mentions this to anyone.\\
'''To be fair''': The others know about the revolver, because Blore tells them at one point. It's the judge who asks for Lombard to produce it so it can be locked up after Emily Brent's death, not Blore. Therefore, it's not just Blore or Armstrong that are likely suspects to have taken it, anyone could have, since pretty much everyone knew he had it.



'''Or''': Someone to check her food/drink for poison.\\
'''Or at LEAST''': Everyone to keep an eye on each other.\\



'''To make it worse''': She's killed while the group is having a group discussion. It should not have been hard to make sure everyone was there.\\
'''To be fair''': Dr. Armstrong does offer her assistance, and she loudly tells him no thanks.

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'''To make it worse''': She's killed while the group is having a group discussion. It should not have been hard to make sure everyone was there.\\
'''To be fair''': Dr. Armstrong does offer her assistance, and she loudly tells him no thanks.



'''Instead''': He goes along with it because he believes a man as professional as Wargrave couldn't possibly be the killer.\\
'''To be fair''': Armstrong also testified before Wargrave in a court case. While the others ponder whether Armstrong is really a doctor, or Blore is really a former lawman, Armstrong KNOWS that Wargrave is who he claims he is, and would have a reason to make himself believe that Wargrave, being an actual judge, is of too high of a standing to be the killer.

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'''Instead''': He goes along with it because he believes a man as professional as Wargrave couldn't possibly be the killer.\\
'''To be fair''': Armstrong also testified before Wargrave in a court case. While the others ponder whether Armstrong is really a doctor, or Blore is really a former lawman, Armstrong KNOWS that Wargrave is who he claims he is, and would have a reason to make himself believe that Wargrave, being an actual judge, is of too high of a standing to be the killer.



'''Instead''': No one notices this incredibly obvious detail.\\
'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again. Also, while it's never voiced out loud as a possibility, who's to say Vera isn't in league with the killer?

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'''Instead''': No one notices this incredibly obvious detail.\\
'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again. Also, while it's never voiced out loud as a possibility, who's to say Vera isn't in league with the killer?



'''Predictably''': She shoots him.\\
'''To be fair''': Lombard lampshades this in his internal thoughts right before he's shot. He knows he has two options, talk her down, or rush her. Lombard reasons that all through his life, he's taken the risky chance, and taking the risky chance has served him well in the past, so he chooses to take it again. Vera is having none of it, and this time, his luck runs out.

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'''Predictably''': She shoots him.\\
'''To be fair''': Lombard lampshades this in his internal thoughts right before he's shot. He knows he has two options, talk her down, or rush her. Lombard reasons that all through his life, he's taken the risky chance, and taking the risky chance has served him well in the past, so he chooses to take it again. Vera is having none of it, and this time, his luck runs out.
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'''As a result''': Vera would probably be able to pin everything on Wargrave and live, foiling his plan, even if it weren't for the fact that Lombard isn't even dead. (You can practically hear Vera laughing internally when she realizes he doesn't know that).
'''To be fair''': Wargrave/Quincannon says that it won't really matter, as the only person left alive on an island of corpses will automatically be suspected as the killer. Also, he's a well-known judge with a high standing. It's not flawless, but it COULD work in his favor.\\

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'''As a result''': Vera would probably be able to pin everything on Wargrave and live, foiling his plan, even if it weren't for the fact that Lombard isn't even dead. (You can practically hear Vera laughing internally when she realizes he doesn't know that).
that).\\
'''To be fair''': Wargrave/Quincannon says that it won't really matter, as the only person left alive on an island of corpses will automatically be suspected as the killer. Also, he's a well-known judge with a high standing. It's not flawless, but it COULD work in his favor.\\
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'''To be fair''': It doesn't matter much, as she's the next victim after they find Rogers dead.\\

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'''To be fair''': It doesn't matter much, as she's the next victim after they find Rogers dead.\\
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'''To be fair''': Wargrave does admit that Mrs. Rogers MAY be confused by the appearance of himself, or someone like Lombard appearing in her room with something for her to take, but reasons that if they simply told her that the doctor told them to give it to her, that she'd have taken it without too much thought, as there were no hints that they were being murdered at that point.\\

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'''To be fair''': Wargrave does admit that Mrs. Rogers MAY be confused by the appearance of himself, or someone like Lombard appearing in her room with something for her to take, but reasons that if they simply told her that the doctor told them to give it to her, that she'd have taken it without too much thought, as there were no hints that they were being murdered at that point.\\



'''As a result''': She avoids being murdered (probably because the killer had no idea she'd do something like that) but she is considered suspicious by everyone because of how careless she was.

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'''As a result''': She avoids being murdered (probably because the killer had no idea she'd do something like that) but she is considered suspicious by everyone because of how careless she was.\\



'''As a result''': He gets easily murdered, just like the rhyme.
'''To be fair''': Rogers was a product of his station, and also may have been working to keep himself occupied from thinking about his wife's death. Her dying doesn't stop him from preparing meals for the other guests, and he continues doing tasks such as polishing the silver and preparing meals and cleaning up even AFTER they have determined a killer is among them. He also locks up the statuettes in a cupboard and locks up the room without even stopping for a second to consider that doing so may put a target on his back.\\

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'''As a result''': He gets easily murdered, just like the rhyme.
rhyme.\\
'''To be fair''': Rogers was a product of his station, and also may have been working to keep himself occupied from thinking about his wife's death. Her dying doesn't stop him from preparing meals for the other guests, and he continues doing tasks such as polishing the silver and preparing meals and cleaning up even AFTER they have determined a killer is among them. He also locks up the statuettes in a cupboard and locks up the room without even stopping for a second to consider that doing so may put a target on his back.\\



'''To be fair''': The others know about the revolver, because Blore tells them at one point. It's the judge who asks for Lombard to produce it so it can be locked up after Emily Brent's death, not Blore. Therefore, it's not just Blore or Armstrong that are likely suspects to have taken it, anyone could have, since pretty much everyone knew he had it.\\

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'''To be fair''': The others know about the revolver, because Blore tells them at one point. It's the judge who asks for Lombard to produce it so it can be locked up after Emily Brent's death, not Blore. Therefore, it's not just Blore or Armstrong that are likely suspects to have taken it, anyone could have, since pretty much everyone knew he had it.\\



'''To make it worse''': She's killed while the group is having a group discussion. It should not have been hard to make sure everyone was there.
'''To be fair''': Dr. Armstrong does offer her assistance, and she loudly tells him no thanks.\\

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'''To make it worse''': She's killed while the group is having a group discussion. It should not have been hard to make sure everyone was there.
there.\\
'''To be fair''': Dr. Armstrong does offer her assistance, and she loudly tells him no thanks.\\



'''Instead''': He goes along with it because he believes a man as professional as Wargrave couldn't possibly be the killer.

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'''Instead''': He goes along with it because he believes a man as professional as Wargrave couldn't possibly be the killer.\\



'''Instead''': No one notices this incredibly obvious detail.
'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again. Also, while it's never voiced out loud as a possibility, who's to say Vera isn't in league with the killer?\\

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'''Instead''': No one notices this incredibly obvious detail.
detail.\\
'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again. Also, while it's never voiced out loud as a possibility, who's to say Vera isn't in league with the killer?\\killer?



'''As a result''': She steals his gun while they move the bodies.

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'''As a result''': She steals his gun while they move the bodies.\\



'''Predictably''': She shoots him.
'''To be fair''': Lombard lampshades this in his internal thoughts right before he's shot. He knows he has two options, talk her down, or rush her. Lombard reasons that all through his life, he's taken the risky chance, and taking the risky chance has served him well in the past, so he chooses to take it again. Vera is having none of it, and this time, his luck runs out.\\

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'''Predictably''': She shoots him.
him.\\
'''To be fair''': Lombard lampshades this in his internal thoughts right before he's shot. He knows he has two options, talk her down, or rush her. Lombard reasons that all through his life, he's taken the risky chance, and taking the risky chance has served him well in the past, so he chooses to take it again. Vera is having none of it, and this time, his luck runs out.\\
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'''It gets better''': Wargrave actually poisoned Mrs. Rogers by poisoning her tea. How was this never discussed as a possibility?

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'''Instead''': They accept this as fact, and move along.\\

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'''Instead''': They accept this as fact, and move along. \\



'''To be fair''': Wargrave does admit that Mrs. Rogers MAY be confused by the appearance of himself, or someone like Lombard appearing in her room with something for her to take, but reasons that if they simply told her that the doctor told them to give it to her, that she'd have taken it without too much thought, as there were no hints that they were being murdered at that point.\\



'''To be fair''': It doesn't matter much, as she's the next victim after they find Rogers dead.\\



'''To be fair''': Rogers was a product of his station, and also may have been working to keep himself occupied from thinking about his wife's death. Her dying doesn't stop him from preparing meals for the other guests, and he continues doing tasks such as polishing the silver and preparing meals and cleaning up even AFTER they have determined a killer is among them. He also locks up the statuettes in a cupboard and locks up the room without even stopping for a second to consider that doing so may put a target on his back.\\



'''Also''': At this time, the only people who knew he had a gun were Armstrong and Blore, making them fairly obvious suspects. He never mentions this to anyone.

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'''Also''': At this time, the only people who knew he had a gun were Armstrong and Blore, making them fairly obvious suspects. He never mentions this to anyone.\\
'''To be fair''': The others know about the revolver, because Blore tells them at one point. It's the judge who asks for Lombard to produce it so it can be locked up after Emily Brent's death, not Blore. Therefore, it's not just Blore or Armstrong that are likely suspects to have taken it, anyone could have, since pretty much everyone knew he had it.\\



'''To be fair''': Dr. Armstrong does offer her assistance, and she loudly tells him no thanks.\\



'''To be fair''': Armstrong also testified before Wargrave in a court case. While the others ponder whether Armstrong is really a doctor, or Blore is really a former lawman, Armstrong KNOWS that Wargrave is who he claims he is, and would have a reason to make himself believe that Wargrave, being an actual judge, is of too high of a standing to be the killer.



'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again.\\

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'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again.\\ Also, while it's never voiced out loud as a possibility, who's to say Vera isn't in league with the killer?\\



'''Bonus Points''': He leaves Vera with Lombard, whom he somewhat suspects of being the killer. If Lombard actually was the killer, he could have killed Vera and shot Blore.

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'''Bonus Points''': He leaves Vera with Lombard, whom he somewhat suspects of being the killer. If Lombard actually was the killer, he could have killed Vera and shot Blore.\\



'''To be fair''': Lombard lampshades this in his internal thoughts right before he's shot. He knows he has two options, talk her down, or rush her. Lombard reasons that all through his life, he's taken the risky chance, and taking the risky chance has served him well in the past, so he chooses to take it again. Vera is having none of it, and this time, his luck runs out.\\



'''To be fair''': Wargrave/Quincannon says that it won't really matter, as the only person left alive on an island of corpses will automatically be suspected as the killer. Also, he's a well-known judge with a high standing. It's not flawless, but it COULD work in his favor.\\



* Vera steals Lombard's gun after that find the doctor's corpse on the cliffs. She starts screaming that ''Lombard'' was the killer, and is obviously frightened for her life. Lombard knows that Vera isn't U.N. Owen because she was out of the house when he found Blore's body after Blore entered the house first; there was no time for her to commit murder. Besides which, they most definitely found her unconscious in her room when the judge was shot; no one knows that the judge faked his death. Lombard starts to reason with Vera, saying neither of them is the killer and they are still being hunted.\\

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* Vera steals Lombard's gun after that they find the doctor's corpse on the cliffs. She starts screaming that ''Lombard'' was the killer, and is obviously frightened for her life. Lombard knows that Vera isn't U.N. Owen because she was out of the house when he found Blore's body after Blore entered the house first; there was no time for her to commit murder. Besides which, they most definitely found her unconscious in her room when the judge was shot; no one knows that the judge faked his death. Lombard starts to reason with Vera, saying neither of them is the killer and they are still being hunted.\\
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'''To be fair''': No one really suspects Vera at that point. Blore and Armstrong both suspect Lombard (The judge confirms that in his confession) Lombard leans towards Blore and Vera thinks it's Armstrong all the way up to when they find his body. As for the gun, Lombard wants it to protect himself, and once he gets it back, to his detriment, there was no way he was releasing it again.\\


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'''To be fair''': He doesn't have the gun out, and he's a "seasoned adventurer" and a bit of a chauvinist. He doesn't believe she could possibly get the drop on him, and it proves to be one of his fatal mistakes.\\
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'''Instead''': He lunges her her head on while she has a gun trained on him.\\

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'''Instead''': He lunges her at her head on while she has a gun trained on him.\\
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'''Instead''': He leaves it in the literal most obvious place he could.\\

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'''Instead''': He leaves it in the literal literally most obvious place he could.\\
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Ok honestly I have thought this one over and... this isn't a great example. Not only is her plan foiled by something she couldn't have forseen, but everything else relating to the plan was planned for, by her, while the "You'd Expect" is something that she may have already tried for all we know.


* In Vera's backstory, she was a governess who fell in love with her charge Cyril's uncle, Hugo Hamilton. Hugo loved her but was worried about being unable to support her since Cyril was the heir to the family fortune. Mind, he ''adores'' his nephew. Cyril is also a SpoiledBrat that wants to swim in the ocean despite having sickly lungs.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Vera to just wear down Hugo's defenses about her also working to have some income. Or help him get a better job so that they can get married in a few years.\\
'''Instead''': She gets the bright idea to "lose sight" of Cyril when he goes swimming in the ocean, distract his mother, and time her "rescue attempt" so that she won't make it in time when Cyril's body gives out to the cold waves. Her idea was that Hugo would then inherit and they could marry.\\
'''The Result''': Even though the inquest clears her and names her as a rescuer who was distracted for a minute, Hugo ''knows'' what she did and ends their relationship. He becomes TheAlcoholic since he can't prove she murdered his nephew and he blames himself for not seeing Vera's true character and being the motive for his nephew's murder. Vera has to work in second-class schools as an instructor due to the accusation.
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props for noticing the string part


* Even the Police are not immune to this. As they sift through the clues, they utilize the journals and notes taken to establish that Armstrong, Vera, Lombard and Blore were the only ones standing. After careful examination, they discover that the bodies of Lombard, Vera, and Armstrong were tampered with after their death.\\

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* Even the Police are not immune to this. As they sift through the clues, they utilize the journals and notes taken to establish that Armstrong, Vera, Lombard and Blore were the only ones standing. After careful examination, they discover that the bodies of Lombard, Vera, and Armstrong were tampered with after their death.deaths.\\
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Also bear in mind that ''to some extent'' some of these examples of idiocy are offset by the fact that it's still a 1930s British society we're talking about and that the characters could hardly have been GenreSavvy due to this very book being a TropeMaker.
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'''To be fair''': Blore isn't the killer, but there's really no reason to assume it can't be him.

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'''To be fair''': Blore isn't the killer, but there's really no reason to assume it can't be him.\\
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'''Added to which''': They also rule Blore out on the grounds that people just don't commit suicide by trying string to heavy marble clocks and pulling them onto themselves. They somehow miss the point that there was no piece of string tied to the clock. In other words, there was a good reason to rule Blore out: the clock had to have been pushed by someone else, but they somehow manage to miss this.
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* The story takes place in an isolated location.

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* The story takes place in an isolated location.\\

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