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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of Comicbook/TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its it's best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of Comicbook/TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.Earth 2.
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And that person is the BiggerBad of Comicbook/TrinityWar. Who would he be?
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* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by Comicbook/TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] that [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by Comicbook/TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of Comicbook/TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the JusticeLeagueOfAmerica ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of Comicbook/TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
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* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by Comicbook/TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by Comicbook/TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?
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* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's Creator/NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was that story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader'', where he was that story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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'''{{Jossed}}'''. [[spoiler:Atom (or Atomica)]] is the mole.
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'''{{Jossed}}'''. [[spoiler:Atom (or Atomica)]] is the mole.
mole, and [[spoiler:Cyborg]] is an unwilling and unwitting mole too.
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'''{{Jossed}}'''. [[spoiler:Atom (or Atomica)]] is the mole.
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'''{{Jossed}}'''.
'''{{Jossed}}'''. [[spoiler:Atom (or Atomica)]] is the mole.
'''{{Jossed}}'''. [[spoiler:Atom (or Atomica)]] is the mole.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Syndicate is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
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* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Syndicate is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
One of the above is '''Confirmed''': [[spoiler:The Outsider is Earth 3 Alfred.]]
One of the above is '''Confirmed''': [[spoiler:The Outsider is Earth 3 Alfred.]]
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It seems he's working for [[spoiler:the Crime Society of Earth 3]].
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It seems he's working for [[spoiler:the Crime Society Syndicate of Earth 3]].
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* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Society is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
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* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Society Syndicate is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
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It seems he's working for [[spoiler:the Crime Society of Earth 3]].
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was that story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was that story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.theory.
* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Society is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
* Alfred Pennyworth from Earth 3. [[spoiler:Since the Crime Society is confirmed to be TheManBehindTheMan, it's likely.]]
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* Addendum: Considering how meta Booster Gold's comment on Supes/Diana sounds (very few fans support the romance), it's possible that this will somehow tie in to the huge disparity in characterization between Diana in her own book and Diana in the greater [=DCnU=]. Some kind of duplicate, perhaps?
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* CONFIRMED!
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And that person is the BiggerBad of Trinity War. Who would he be?
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And that person is the BiggerBad of Trinity Comicbook/Trinity War. Who would he be?
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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the JusticeLeaugeOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the JusticeLeaugeOfAmerica JusticeLeagueOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of TrinityWar, Comicbook/TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed byTrinityWar.Comicbook/TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by
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* [[FaceHeelTurn Alfred Pennyworth]]. After [[TheDeathOfTheFamily [[Comicbook/DeathOfTheFamily the Joker wrecking the Batfamily]], Alfred went nuts with grief. The Outsider manipulating things before TheDeathOfTheFamily? Comicbook/DeathOfTheFamily? This is a universe with time travel. Alfred was The Outsider Pre-Crisis, so its possible
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was rhat story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was rhat that story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrudader, where he was rhat story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrudader, WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader, where he was rhat story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?
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* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?sin?
** Speaking of Gaiman...
* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrudader, where he was rhat story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
** Speaking of Gaiman...
* Alfred Pennyworth from the "Gentlemen's Gentlemen" story from WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrudader, where he was rhat story's Joker. He looks similar to our lovable butler, but is somewhat psychotic with white skin and a verbal tic where he gives a short "ha." This is another part of the "refugee from the multiverse/previous continuity" theory.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Outsider]] is working for someone.]]
And that person is the BiggerBad of Trinity War. Who would he be?
* Trigon. He's a major demon lord and was originally meant to be Satan. The SevenDeadlySins in Pandora's box are the AdaptationalBadass version of his sons, who he locked up because they threatened even him. That, or they were loyal and he's trying to free them to wreak havoc
* Darkseid. He has a history of micromanaging Earth villains to destabilize it for a takeover/find the Anti-Life Equation. After "testing" the JusticeLeaugeOfAmerica in the first battle, he knows its best to screw them over. Being a busy MultiversalConqueror, he got [[spoiler:The Outsider]] to be the BigBad of TrinityWar, while he invades Earth2.
* The Anti-Monitor. He's [[GenreSavvy realised that]] [[CrisisCrossover crashing in universe after universe]] is bad for his health, so is comfortably having Earth destroyed by TrinityWar. After all, Earth has become a CosmicKeystone due to InfiniteCrisis, and while Flashpoint has changed that the Anti-Monitor is unaware of that. [[ContinuitySnarl Hard to blame him.]]
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* In previous issues of Justice League Dark, Zatanna has told Constantine that he is a hero who pretends to have an agenda. After joining the Justice League, she accuses him the opposite. she is actually a shape shifting Secret Society member that wants to get Wonder Woman to Pandora's Box.
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* In previous issues of Justice League Dark, Zatanna has told Constantine that he is a hero who pretends to have an agenda. After joining the Justice League, she accuses him the opposite. she is actually a shape shifting Secret Society member that wants to get Wonder Woman to Pandora's Box.Box.
[[WMG: The Outsider's identity.]]
* [[FaceHeelTurn Alfred Pennyworth]]. After [[TheDeathOfTheFamily the Joker wrecking the Batfamily]], Alfred went nuts with grief. The Outsider manipulating things before TheDeathOfTheFamily? This is a universe with time travel. Alfred was The Outsider Pre-Crisis, so its possible
* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?
[[WMG: The Outsider's identity.]]
* [[FaceHeelTurn Alfred Pennyworth]]. After [[TheDeathOfTheFamily the Joker wrecking the Batfamily]], Alfred went nuts with grief. The Outsider manipulating things before TheDeathOfTheFamily? This is a universe with time travel. Alfred was The Outsider Pre-Crisis, so its possible
* [[{{Satan}} The Devil Himself]]. How canon NeilGaiman's work is remains to be seen, but even if Lucifer is that still wouldn't stop, say, [[JohnConstantine The First of the Fallen]] being the Devil figure. [[TimeAbyss He's much older than the Greek Gods.]] Not to mention that the SevenDeadlySins are in Pandora's Box. Now who's said to be the father of sin?
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* Even if she is unaware of this fact. A potential hint towards this fact is how Booster Gold vanished from the timeline completely once Superman and Wonder Woman had their first kiss, as seen in Justice League International. Based on Booster's own words, '''it was never meant to happen'''. In the current issues, Wonder Woman is also very adamant about seeking out Pandora's Box, despite having been told it is not the source of Superman's illness and loss of control over his power. It is only a possibility, but I think it is worth considering.
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* Even if she is unaware of this fact. A potential hint towards this fact is how Booster Gold vanished from the timeline completely once Superman and Wonder Woman had their first kiss, as seen in Justice League International. Based on Booster's own words, '''it was never meant to happen'''. In the current issues, Wonder Woman is also very adamant about seeking out Pandora's Box, despite having been told it is not the source of Superman's illness and loss of control over his power. It is only a possibility, but I think it is worth considering.considering.
[[WMG: Zatanna is the mole]]
* In previous issues of Justice League Dark, Zatanna has told Constantine that he is a hero who pretends to have an agenda. After joining the Justice League, she accuses him the opposite. she is actually a shape shifting Secret Society member that wants to get Wonder Woman to Pandora's Box.
[[WMG: Zatanna is the mole]]
* In previous issues of Justice League Dark, Zatanna has told Constantine that he is a hero who pretends to have an agenda. After joining the Justice League, she accuses him the opposite. she is actually a shape shifting Secret Society member that wants to get Wonder Woman to Pandora's Box.
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*** Yet!
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*** Yet!Yet!
[[WMG: The mole for the Secret Society is Wonder Woman]]
* Even if she is unaware of this fact. A potential hint towards this fact is how Booster Gold vanished from the timeline completely once Superman and Wonder Woman had their first kiss, as seen in Justice League International. Based on Booster's own words, '''it was never meant to happen'''. In the current issues, Wonder Woman is also very adamant about seeking out Pandora's Box, despite having been told it is not the source of Superman's illness and loss of control over his power. It is only a possibility, but I think it is worth considering.
[[WMG: The mole for the Secret Society is Wonder Woman]]
* Even if she is unaware of this fact. A potential hint towards this fact is how Booster Gold vanished from the timeline completely once Superman and Wonder Woman had their first kiss, as seen in Justice League International. Based on Booster's own words, '''it was never meant to happen'''. In the current issues, Wonder Woman is also very adamant about seeking out Pandora's Box, despite having been told it is not the source of Superman's illness and loss of control over his power. It is only a possibility, but I think it is worth considering.
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*** It might, however [[spoiler:while this might be The Outsider, it's yet to be confirmed that this is ''Flashpoint's'' Outsider. He just might be a new version created after the new universe]].
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*** It might, however [[spoiler:while this might be The Outsider, it's yet to be confirmed that this is ''Flashpoint's'' Outsider. He just might be a new version created after the new universe]].universe]].
[[WMG: Trinity War's stealth plot is the reveal of [[spoiler: Earth Three and the Injustice Society of Amerika]]]]
* Dimensional displacement? Evil Society? Knowledge of Batman's home address and his secret stash of anti-Justice League goodies? [[spoiler: That's because the mysterious man who broke into the bat cave is Bruce Wayne from Earth 3.]] Further, the identity of the Mysterious leader of the society is none other than [[spoiler: his faithful Butler Alfred in his long ago villain identity of the Outsider.]]
** The last part is semi-confirmed in Justice League 22, [[spoiler: The man in the hat is the Outsider, but no evidence it's Alfred.]]
*** Yet!
[[WMG: Trinity War's stealth plot is the reveal of [[spoiler: Earth Three and the Injustice Society of Amerika]]]]
* Dimensional displacement? Evil Society? Knowledge of Batman's home address and his secret stash of anti-Justice League goodies? [[spoiler: That's because the mysterious man who broke into the bat cave is Bruce Wayne from Earth 3.]] Further, the identity of the Mysterious leader of the society is none other than [[spoiler: his faithful Butler Alfred in his long ago villain identity of the Outsider.]]
** The last part is semi-confirmed in Justice League 22, [[spoiler: The man in the hat is the Outsider, but no evidence it's Alfred.]]
*** Yet!
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[[WMG: The leader of the Secret Society is the Outsider from Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} who managed to survive the continuity merge and emerged around the time the Justice League first formed.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Part 1 of Trinity War revealed a tarot card of him labeled The Outsider]].
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[[WMG: The identity of the Man behind The Secret Society]]
* So my theory is that the leader of the Secret Society isthe [[spoiler:the Outsider from Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} who managed to survive the continuity merge and emerged around the time the Justice League first formed.]]
* ** [[spoiler:Confirmed. Part 1 of Trinity War revealed a tarot card of him labeled The Outsider]].Outsider]].
*** It might, however [[spoiler:while this might be The Outsider, it's yet to be confirmed that this is ''Flashpoint's'' Outsider. He just might be a new version created after the new universe]].
* So my theory is that the leader of the Secret Society is
*** It might, however [[spoiler:while this might be The Outsider, it's yet to be confirmed that this is ''Flashpoint's'' Outsider. He just might be a new version created after the new universe]].
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[[WMG: The leader of the Secret Society is the Outsider from Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} who managed to survive the continuity merge and emerged around the time the Justice League first formed.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Part 1 of Trinity War revealed a tarot card of him labeled The Outsider]].
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Part 1 of Trinity War revealed a tarot card of him labeled The Outsider]].
