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* Creator/{{Awkwafina}}: Todd could note she is a rare example who is also a POC (East Asian) in this case.
* Music/IggyAzalea
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For things in his fellow reviews and or music critics Todd doesn't like or finds invalid.
* Mocking "Ironic" for not having anything ironic in it: Todd mentioned in the Song vs. Song podcast that jokes about "Ironic"'s lack of irony in the lyrica are by this point as worn-out as jokes about airline food.
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* Music/{{Migos}}: Both the name of the group and its members Quavo, Takeoff, and Offset.

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* Music/{{Migos}}: Both the name of the group and its members Quavo, Takeoff, and Offset.Offset, although Takeoff's 2022 murder might exclude them.


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* Rae Sremmurd: The name is "Drummer's Ear" [[SdrawkcabName backwards]].
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* "Daughters" by John Mayer: Hinted in the "Lazy Song" review.

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* "Daughters" by John Mayer: Music/JohnMayer: Hinted in the "Lazy Song" review.



* "Your Body Is a Wonderland" by John Mayer: Hinted in the Worst of 1976 list.

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* "Your Body Is a Wonderland" by John Mayer: Music/JohnMayer: Hinted in the Worst of 1976 list.



* Music/JackJohnson: One of the first artists Todd mentioned explicitly that he hated on the show. If John Mayer is the poster boy for the "White Guy with an Acoustic Guitar" genre, then Jack Johnson is a close second.

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* Music/JackJohnson: One of the first artists Todd mentioned explicitly that he hated on the show. If John Mayer Music/JohnMayer is the poster boy for the "White Guy with an Acoustic Guitar" genre, then Jack Johnson is a close second.



* John Mayer: If Todd does this list, John Mayer would very likely make the list since he is Todd's poster boy for all [=WGWAGs=].

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* John Mayer: Music/JohnMayer: If Todd does this list, John Mayer would very likely make the list since he is Todd's poster boy for all [=WGWAGs=].
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* "Summer of Love" by Music/TheBeachBoys: Todd was absolutely disgusted by Mike Love's attempts at being sexy in his 50s, and the synthetic Pro Tools production certainly didn't help.

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* "Summer of Love" by Music/TheBeachBoys: Todd was absolutely disgusted by Mike Love's Music/MikeLove's attempts at being sexy in his 50s, and the synthetic Pro Tools production certainly didn't help.



* [[Music/TheBeachBoys Mike Love]]: Todd was ''really'' annoyed by Love during the ''Summer in Paradise'' Trainwreckords to the point that he already considered him to be an "enemy of this show" in the "Toosie Slide" review.

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* [[Music/TheBeachBoys Mike Love]]: Music/MikeLove: Todd was ''really'' annoyed by Love during the ''Summer in Paradise'' ''Music/SummerInParadise'' Trainwreckords to the point that he already considered him to be an "enemy of this show" in the "Toosie Slide" review.



* ''Summer in Paradise'' by Music/TheBeachBoys: Todd was appalled by the poor production and abundance of shit covers and shit "Kokomo"s. He levied special criticism towards "Summer of Love", due to Mike Love's cringe-worthy attempts at seductive rapping in his 50s, as well as the John Stamos-led cover of Dennis Wilson's "Forever".

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* ''Summer in Paradise'' by Music/TheBeachBoys: Todd was appalled by the poor production and abundance of shit covers and shit "Kokomo"s. He levied special criticism towards "Summer of Love", due to Mike Love's Music/MikeLove's cringe-worthy attempts at seductive rapping in his 50s, as well as the John Stamos-led cover of Dennis Wilson's "Forever".

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* "The Ballad of the Green Berets" by [=SSgt=]. Barry Sadler (1966[[note]]on Billboard's later revised list (which is no longer on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1966 the official Wikipedia page]], but can be found [[https://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1966.htm here]], and also was the Year-End list that WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic and WebVideo/LyzetteG used for their 1966 best and worst lists). In the original list, this song was #10 and "[[Music/TheMamasAndThePapas California Dreamin']]" topped the list[[/note]]): One of the few pro-military songs of the Vietnam era, and as such aged poorly almost immediately as opinions on the war soured.



* "The Ballad of the Green Berets" by [=SSgt=]. Barry Sadler (1966[[note]]on Billboard's later revised list (which is no longer on the Wikipedia page, but can be found [[https://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1966.htm here]], and was the Year-End list that WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic and WebVideo/LyzetteG used for their 1966 best and worst lists). In the original list, this song was #10 and "[[Music/TheMamasAndThePapas California Dreamin']]" topped the list[[/note]]): One of the few pro-military songs of the Vietnam era, and as such aged poorly almost immediately as opinions on the war soured.
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* "The Ballad of the Green Berets" by [=SSgt=]. Barry Sadler (1966[[note]]on Billboard's later revised list (which is no longer on the Wikipedia page, but can be found [[https://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1966.htm here]], and was the Year-End list that WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic and WebVideo/LyzetteG used for their 1966 list). In the original list, this song was #10 and "[[Music/TheMamasAndThePapas California Dreamin']]" topped the list[[/note]]): One of the few pro-military songs of the Vietnam era, and as such aged poorly almost immediately as opinions on the war soured.

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* "The Ballad of the Green Berets" by [=SSgt=]. Barry Sadler (1966[[note]]on Billboard's later revised list (which is no longer on the Wikipedia page, but can be found [[https://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1966.htm here]], and was the Year-End list that WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic and WebVideo/LyzetteG used for their 1966 list).best and worst lists). In the original list, this song was #10 and "[[Music/TheMamasAndThePapas California Dreamin']]" topped the list[[/note]]): One of the few pro-military songs of the Vietnam era, and as such aged poorly almost immediately as opinions on the war soured.
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* "The Ballad of the Green Berets" by [=SSgt=]. Barry Sadler (1966[[note]]on Billboard's later revised list (which is no longer on the Wikipedia page, but can be found [[https://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1966.htm here]], and was the Year-End list that WebVideo/DiamondAxeStudiosMusic and WebVideo/LyzetteG used for their 1966 list). In the original list, this song was #10 and "[[Music/TheMamasAndThePapas California Dreamin']]" topped the list[[/note]]): One of the few pro-military songs of the Vietnam era, and as such aged poorly almost immediately as opinions on the war soured.

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* "Ridin' Solo" by Music/JasonDerulo: Hinted at in the Worst of 2020 video. Even though Todd originally considered it weaker than "Talk Dirty" (which he still found severely flawed) and it wasn't on his Best of 2010 list, he called it Derulo's ''only'' good song in the "Return of the Mack" OHW.

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"Ridin' Solo" by Music/JasonDerulo: Solo": Hinted at in the Worst of 2020 video. Even though Todd originally considered it weaker than "Talk Dirty" (which he still found severely flawed) and it wasn't on his Best of 2010 list, he called it Derulo's ''only'' good song in the "Return of the Mack" OHW.OHW.
** "Cheyenne": A lesser-known single that's also worth a mention for being one of his more highly regarded songs, though Todd himself has yet to comment on it.

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* "Hey Man, Nice Shot" by Music/{{Filter}}: Since the song came out the year after Kurt Cobain's suicide, many people believed that the song was about him; however, Richard Patrick wrote the song in 1991 while Cobain was still alive. The actual subject of the song was R. Budd Dwyer, a disgraced Pennsylvania politician who infamously [[AteHisGun committed suicide on live television]] during a press conference at the Pennsylvania State Capitol in 1987.

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* "Hey Man, Nice Shot" by Music/{{Filter}}: Since the song came out the year after Kurt Cobain's suicide, many people believed that the song was about him; however, Richard Patrick wrote the song in 1991 while Cobain was still alive.1991. The actual subject of the song was R. Budd Dwyer, a disgraced Pennsylvania politician who infamously [[AteHisGun committed suicide on live television]] during a press conference at the Pennsylvania State Capitol in 1987.1987.
* "Electric Avenue" by Eddy Grant: The song was written in response to the 1981 Brixton riots, although very little rioting actually happened on the titular street.



* "Gangnam Style" by Music/{{PSY}}: The 2012 [[Memes/{{Music}} viral hit]] is a scathing social satire of the hedonism of the titular district in Seoul.

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* "Gangnam Style" by Music/{{PSY}}: The 2012 [[Memes/{{Music}} viral hit]] is a scathing social satire of the hedonism of the titular district in Seoul. However, because of the LanguageBarrier, its actual meaning was lost on most Westerners.



* "Stairway to Heaven" by Music/LedZeppelin: More specifically frontman Robert Plant hates the song.
* "Wonderwall" by Music/Oasis

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* "Stairway to Heaven" by Music/LedZeppelin: More specifically frontman lead singer Robert Plant hates the song.
* "Wonderwall" by Music/OasisMusic/{{Oasis}}

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* "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" by Music/BeastieBoys: One of the biggest cases of CreatorBacklash in music, the song was intended to be a TakeThat against frat boy culture of the 80s. Instead, the song was ''embraced'' as an anthem of the very culture it was satirizing.

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* "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" by Music/BeastieBoys: One of the biggest cases of CreatorBacklash in music, the song was intended to be a TakeThat against frat boy culture of the 80s. Instead, the song was ''embraced'' as an anthem of the [[PoesLaw very culture it was satirizing.satirizing]].



* "Material Girl" by Music/{{Madonna}}: Another case of PoesLaw, one that Madonna [[CreatorBacklash would later regret]].



* "Weird Science" by Music/OnigoBoingo

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* "Weird Science" by Music/OnigoBoingoMusic/OingoBoingo
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* Music/FooFighters: Music/DaveGrohl himself admitted that the band name was dumb.

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* Music/FooFighters: Music/DaveGrohl himself admitted that the band name was dumb."worst fucking band name in the world".



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* {{Yarling}}: Todd compares this style of "singing", often employed by rock artists since the 1990s, to "singing directly out of [one's] colon", citing Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger as a bad example.

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* {{Yarling}}: Todd compares this style of "singing", often employed by rock artists since the 1990s, to "singing directly out of [one's] colon", colon" when citing why Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger as a bad example.sucks.

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* "We've Never Heard of You Either" by Evan and Jaron: He called the title salty in his OHW for "Crazy for this Girl"

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* "We've Never Heard of You Either" "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" by Evan and Jaron: He called Music/BeastieBoys: As outlined in the title salty in his OHW for "Crazy for this Girl"misunderstood songs entry, the song was supposed to be a scathing satrical criticism of 80s frat boy culture, only to be played straight by said frat boys.
* "Stairway to Heaven" by Music/LedZeppelin: More specifically frontman Robert Plant hates the song.
* "Wonderwall" by Music/Oasis
* "Weird Science" by Music/OnigoBoingo
* "Creep" by Music/{{Radiohead}}: Frontman Thom Yorke hated the song because it was often the ''only'' song of the group's that concertgoers wanted to hear.
* "Shiny Happy People" by Music/{{REM}}


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* "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" by Music/BeastieBoys: One of the biggest cases of CreatorBacklash in music, the song was intended to be a TakeThat to the 80s frat boy culture. Instead, the song was ''embraced'' as an anthem of the very culture it was satirizing.

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* "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" by Music/BeastieBoys: One of the biggest cases of CreatorBacklash in music, the song was intended to be a TakeThat to the 80s against frat boy culture.culture of the 80s. Instead, the song was ''embraced'' as an anthem of the very culture it was satirizing.



* "Hey Man, Nice Shot" by Music/{{Filter}}: Since the song came out the year after Kurt Cobain's suicide, many people believed that the song was about him; however, Richard Patrick wrote the song in 1991 while Cobain was still alive. The actual subject of the song was R. Budd Dwyer, a disgraced Pennsylvania politician who infamously [[IfItBleedsItLeads committed suicide on live television]] during a press conference at the Pennsylvania State Capitol in 1987.

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* "Hey Man, Nice Shot" by Music/{{Filter}}: Since the song came out the year after Kurt Cobain's suicide, many people believed that the song was about him; however, Richard Patrick wrote the song in 1991 while Cobain was still alive. The actual subject of the song was R. Budd Dwyer, a disgraced Pennsylvania politician who infamously [[IfItBleedsItLeads [[AteHisGun committed suicide on live television]] during a press conference at the Pennsylvania State Capitol in 1987.



** "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)": Often associated with graduation, it is about a breakup between frontman Billie Joe Armstrong and his girlfriend.

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** "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)": Often associated with graduation, played as a graduation song, it is about a breakup between frontman Billie Joe Armstrong and his girlfriend.



* "Imagine" by Music/JohnLennon: The song is often used as an anthem of love and peace. Lennon admitted that the song was practically ''The Communist Manifesto'' in a more palatable form.

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* "Imagine" by Music/JohnLennon: The song is often used as an anthem of love and peace. Lennon practically admitted that the song was practically ''The Communist Manifesto'' in a more palatable sugar-coated form.


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* "Dance Monkey" by Tones and I: In what was supposed to be a satrical backlash against performing the same thing over and over again, it has become a "self-fulfilling prophecy" [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1506536846716596226 according to a Tweet by Todd]].
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* "This Is America" by [[Creator/DonaldGlover Childish Gambino]]

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* "This Is America" by [[Creator/DonaldGlover Childish Gambino]]Music/ChildishGambino
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* Creator/{{Awkwafina}}: Namely because it's too phonetically similar to the brand of bottled water Aquafina.
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* [=DaBaby=]: While Todd likes [=DaBaby=]'s output, he is a similar case to Music/CeeLoGreen, Music/{{Sia}} and Music/MorganWallen in that his comments at Rolling Loud in July 2021 that aren't likely going to sit well with Todd.

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* [=DaBaby=]: While Todd likes [=DaBaby=]'s output, he is a similar case to Music/CeeLoGreen, Music/{{Sia}} and Music/MorganWallen in that his comments at Rolling Loud in July 2021 that aren't likely going to sit well with Todd.



* Music/CeeLoGreen: Despite "Fuck You!" topping the Best of 2011 list (which Todd eventually retracted on), it's unlikely his rape comments will sit well with Todd.

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* Music/CeeLoGreen: Despite "Fuck You!" topping the Best of 2011 list (which Todd eventually retracted on), retracted), it's unlikely his rape comments will sit well with Todd.


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* Music/{{TI}}: While “Live Your Life” was one of Todd’s favorite songs of 2009, his comments about his daughter’s body and sexuality almost certainly cross a line.
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* “Say It” by Tory Lanez sampling “If You Love Me” by Brownstone

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* Music/CaptainAndTennille: More so on the Captain than Tennille, since "Tennille" is her actual maiden surname.

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* Music/CaptainAndTennille: More so on with the Captain than Tennille, since "Tennille" is it's her actual maiden surname.



* Music/DojaCat: However, considering that her real name is Amalaratna Zandile Dlamini, Todd might give her a pass.

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* Music/DojaCat: However, considering that her real name is Amalaratna Amala Ratna Zandile Dlamini, Todd might give her a pass.


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* Kid Ink: In the Worst of 2014 list, Todd claims that Kid Ink sounds like a brand of glitter pens.
* Music/KidRock
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* ''Film/{{Airheads}}

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* ''Film/{{Airheads}}''Film/{{Airheads}}''
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* Music/ThirdEyeBlind
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* "My Ding-a-Ling" by Music/ChuckBerry: Berry's only number one hit as well as his last top 10 hit of his career was a cringeworthy novelty jingle about ADateWithRosiePalms and is a prime example of "The Lame 70s".

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* "My Ding-a-Ling" by Music/ChuckBerry: Berry's only number one hit as well as his last top 10 hit of his career was a cringeworthy novelty jingle about ADateWithRosiePalms masturbating and is a prime example of "The Lame 70s".
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* Rednex covering the classic "Cotton-Eye Joe"

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* Rednex Music/{{Rednex}} covering the classic "Cotton-Eye Joe"

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* "You Keep Me Hangin' On" by Music/KimWilde: Possibly unlikely because Todd compared the production of "Are You Red..Y" from ''Cut the Crap'' to this, saying there was "barely a difference" between the two, although he did say ''Cut the Crap'' sounded worse than typical MTV music.[[/folder]]

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* "You Keep Me Hangin' On" by Music/KimWilde: Possibly unlikely because Todd compared the production of "Are You Red..Y" from ''Cut the Crap'' to this, saying there was "barely a difference" between the two, although he did say ''Cut the Crap'' sounded worse than typical MTV music.music.
* "Big Love" and "Little Lies" by Music/FleetwoodMac: He stated that this period in their career was "Not the best era of Mac, but certainly worthwhile" in the ''American Dream'' trainwreckord.
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* FemaleEnpowermentSong: Mainly those that overlap with the SelfEmpowermentAnthem or are just straight up misandric.

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* FemaleEnpowermentSong: FemaleEmpowermentSong: Mainly those that overlap with the SelfEmpowermentAnthem or are just straight up misandric.

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* BrokenRecord choruses and hooks: In particular, repeating the {{title|drop}} of the song several times as a hook.

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* BrokenRecord choruses and hooks: In particular, repeating the {{title|drop}} [[TitleDrop title of the song song]] several times as a hook.



* FemaleEnpowermentSong: Mainly those that overlap with the SelfEmpowermentAnthem or are just straight up misandric.



* HotterAndSexier: Often coinciding with DarkerAndEdgier, many former Creator/{{Disney|Channel}} and Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} child stars tend to go the route of blatant {{fanservice}} once their tenure with said networks end to shake their ContractualPurity image. While this is often a female phenomenon, there are a [[GenderInvertedTrope few male examples]] (e.g., Music/JustinTimberlake, Music/TheJonasBrothers).

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* HotterAndSexier: Often coinciding with DarkerAndEdgier, many former Creator/{{Disney|Channel}} and Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} child stars tend to go the route of blatant {{fanservice}} once their tenure with said networks end to shake shed their ContractualPurity image.[[ContractualPurity child star image]]. While this is often a female phenomenon, there are a [[GenderInvertedTrope few male examples]] (e.g., Music/JustinTimberlake, Music/TheJonasBrothers).



* Ringtone rap: The mid-2000s precursor to [=TikTok=] songs, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and not already established tend to be one hit wonders who faded into obscurity.

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* Ringtone rap: The mid-2000s precursor to [=TikTok=] songs, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and were not already established tend to be one hit wonders who faded into obscurity.



* SelfEmpowermentAnthem: Todd tends to dislike these often for being milquetoast.

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* SelfEmpowermentAnthem: Todd tends to dislike these these, often for being milquetoast.



* {{Yarling}}: Todd dislikes this "singing" techinque often used by rock vocalists since the 1990s, comparing it to "singing directly out of [one's] colon" when citing Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger as a bad example.

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* {{Yarling}}: Todd dislikes compares this "singing" techinque style of "singing", often used employed by rock vocalists artists since the 1990s, comparing it to "singing directly out of [one's] colon" when colon", citing Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger as a bad example.
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* "Mother" by Meghan Trainor sampling "Mr. Sandman" by Pat Ballard
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* "What's Love Got to Do with It" by Music/TinaTurner: It became an ''especially'' moving song after the release of the [[Film/WhatsLoveGotToDoWithIt movie of the same name]] nine years later.

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* "What's Love Got to Do with It" by Music/TinaTurner: It became an ''especially'' moving song after the release of the [[Film/WhatsLoveGotToDoWithIt [[Film/WhatsLoveGotToDoWithIt1993 movie of the same name]] nine years later.
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* “Alone Again” by Alyssa Reid sampling “Alone” by Heart: Notable for being the lowest-rated song on The Singles Jukebox until “Accidental Racist” beat it.

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