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*** Creator/TomHiddleston, the actor who plays him, has said that [[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/09/01/thor-2-tom-hiddleston/ he thinks that Loki might get a shot a redemption]] in the solo ''Thor'' sequel set after ''Film/TheAvengers''.

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*** Creator/TomHiddleston, the actor who plays him, has said that [[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/09/01/thor-2-tom-hiddleston/ he thinks that Loki might get a shot a redemption]] in the solo ''Thor'' sequel set after ''Film/TheAvengers''.''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.
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* Thor has mentioned Nornheim, which isn't in the [[NorseMythology source material]] but the (admittedly non-canon) video game suggests it's the home of the Rock Trolls and a separate realm unto itself. That's seven.

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* Thor has mentioned Nornheim, which isn't in the [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology source material]] but the (admittedly non-canon) video game suggests it's the home of the Rock Trolls and a separate realm unto itself. That's seven.
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* Let's take a leap and say Helheim and Muspelheim are the last two. This leaves out the traditional Niflheim (but let's face it, Jotunheim's got that covered- maybe they're the same?) and Nidavellir (again, maybe part of a larger realm?)

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* Let's take a leap and say Helheim and Muspelheim are the last two. This leaves out the traditional Niflheim (but let's face it, Jotunheim's got that covered- maybe they're the same?) and Nidavellir (again, maybe part of a larger realm?)realm?)

[[WMG: Thor's comment about Sif being a warrior isn't as sexist as you think.]]

It's not about Asgard having no female warriors (the old Norse women were quite capable, and evidence suggests they would go into battle alongside men fairly often). Rather, it's about Sif become ''so awesome'' of a warrior that she's part of Thor's elite hit squad. Asgardian women can certainly kick ass (witness Frigga in Thor: The Dark World), but any warrior who wants to join Thor's merry band has to be the absolute top-shelf of badassery. Asgardians scoffed at Sif for wanting to be that caliber of warrior, not just for wanting to be a warrior in general. As they might scoff at any male who said "I'm going to join Thor and Warriors Two when I grow up!" by saying "Well, you'll have to be able to take on a dozen Einherjar signle-handed, boy."
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** He said "forged ''in'' a dying star," not "forged ''from'' a dying star." If Thor's hammer was neutronium, it would weigh ''twenty-nine-million tons.'' If Thor was strong enough to swing a ''twenty-nine-million ton'' hammer like an aluminum baseball bat, he wouldn't ''need'' to. He could kill Hulk with a missed punch.
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*Confirmed, as Loki reveals other worlds and as of the sequel Asgard may be interacting with them.




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*Then they should have seen the dark haired bastard betrayer coming, because that's quite an old one. WrongGenreSavvy?




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*Hogun actually looks a bit more Mongol in the comics (oddly, since he was based on Charles Bronson) but apparently Jossed by him being a Vanir.



* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?

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* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?it?
**Because before then there was no requirement to wield it. This could still be conceivably true, if Odin has done so much IDidWhatIHadTo that he's not worthy of being called a hero.

[[WMG: The Nine Worlds]]

We're already pretty familiar with Asgard, Midgard and Jotunheim. That's three. The sequel introduces Svartalfheim and Vanaheim, so that's five. Now on to speculation:
*Thor has mentioned Alfheim, let's call that six.
*Thor has mentioned Nornheim, which isn't in the [[NorseMythology source material]] but the (admittedly non-canon) video game suggests it's the home of the Rock Trolls and a separate realm unto itself. That's seven.
*Let's take a leap and say Helheim and Muspelheim are the last two. This leaves out the traditional Niflheim (but let's face it, Jotunheim's got that covered- maybe they're the same?) and Nidavellir (again, maybe part of a larger realm?)
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What with {{Disney}} having bought {{Marvel}} and all. Think about it: they both have long blonde hair, they both wear green, they're both described as being incredible beautiful, and they both do not react well to rejection. I can't unsee it!

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What with {{Disney}} Creator/{{Disney}} having bought {{Marvel}} and all. Think about it: they both have long blonde hair, they both wear green, they're both described as being incredible beautiful, and they both do not react well to rejection. I can't unsee it!
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* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?
* It explains why Odin doesn't put a similar enchantment on Gungnir (his spear). Perhaps as a king, he's had to do some morally ambiguous things to protect his kingdom.

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* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?
* It explains why Odin doesn't put a similar enchantment on Gungnir (his spear). Perhaps as a king, he's had to do some morally ambiguous things to protect his kingdom.kingdom.
* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?

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The mythology is pretty clear that the Aesir can't keep it in their pants, especially with jotnar. Explains why he's so tiny and why he changes color. Odin probably knows this, but didn't tell Loki because he's a lying bastard.

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The mythology is pretty clear that the Aesir can't keep it in their pants, especially with jotnar. Explains why he's so tiny and why he changes color. Odin probably knows this, but didn't tell Loki because he's a lying bastard.
*bleep*.



There are Neo Nazi morons and suchlike that tend to like the Norse gods or worship some twisted version of them. Studio execs were worried that these bastards might cling onto the film like a lamprey sucking away at the bottom line. Though i am not going to say this was the only reason why he was cast (he was pretty damn awesome in the part), but I could imagine some studio execs and marketing guys looking over the list of people who want to play the role and did well and said "of these three final guys, lets go with the black guy because he is going to keep those racist morons away".

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There are Neo Nazi morons and suchlike that tend to like the Norse gods or worship some twisted version of them. Studio execs were worried that these bastards might cling onto the film like a lamprey sucking away at the bottom line. Though i am not going to say this was the only reason why he was cast (he was pretty damn *bleep* awesome in the part), but I could imagine some studio execs and marketing guys looking over the list of people who want to play the role and did well and said "of these three final guys, lets go with the black guy because he is going to keep those racist morons away".



Not to excuse Loki's actions there, but he's one of the best-executed cases of CryForTheDevil in recent memory, and in this verse he's clearly in many ways still a really pathetic, attention-seeking ''boy''. Imagine if Odin had just sighed "Loki, please don't do this. You are ''my son'', and I could not bear to lose you." It seems pretty IC that this version of Loki might have allowed that, and then probably collapsed into angry, frustrated, needy tears. He'd probably still need a long, long time under the care of whatever the Asgardian equivalent of a psychiatrist is (not unlike [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Princess Azula]]'s final fate), but at the very least he wouldn't've ended up going to rampage on Midgard for shits and giggles.

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Not to excuse Loki's actions there, but he's one of the best-executed cases of CryForTheDevil in recent memory, and in this verse he's clearly in many ways still a really pathetic, attention-seeking ''boy''. Imagine if Odin had just sighed "Loki, please don't do this. You are ''my son'', and I could not bear to lose you." It seems pretty IC that this version of Loki might have allowed that, and then probably collapsed into angry, frustrated, needy tears. He'd probably still need a long, long time under the care of whatever the Asgardian equivalent of a psychiatrist is (not unlike [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Princess Azula]]'s final fate), but at the very least he wouldn't've ended up going to rampage on Midgard for shits *bleep* and giggles.



[[WMG: Laufey is not a complete bastard.]]

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[[WMG: Laufey is not a complete bastard.*bleep*.]]



Seriously, this isn't up here yet. Well, here are two reasonings.

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Seriously, this isn't up here yet. Well, here Here are two reasonings.



[[WMG: Odin is ''not'' worthy to wield Mjollnir.]]
* The only time we see him hold Mjollnir, it's ''before'' he puts the enchantment on it.

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[[WMG: Odin is ''not'' worthy to wield Mjollnir.Mjolnir.]]
* The only time we see him hold Mjollnir, Mjolnir, it's ''before'' he puts the enchantment on it.it.
* But then how does Odin summon Mjolnir to his hand? And how is he able to throw it into the wormhole after putting the enchantment on it?
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Focusing on the Sif-Thor-Jane [[TriangRelations love triangle]] (type 1 or 10, depending on whether you interpret Thor and Jane being friends or an item). Thor and Jane are definitely set up in the first film, while Sif is very much attracted to Thor (and he flirts with her) along with being his wife in [[NorseMythology the original myths]].

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Focusing on the Sif-Thor-Jane [[TriangRelations love triangle]] (type 1 or 10, depending on whether you interpret Thor and Jane being friends or an item). Thor and Jane are definitely set up in the first film, while Sif is very much attracted to Thor (and he flirts with her) along with being his wife in [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology the original myths]].
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** It's been announced that an AntMan movie is on its way, which would bring this WMG back to life.

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** It's been announced that an AntMan ''Film/AntMan'' movie is on its way, which would bring this WMG back to life.
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Hence why they need the Bifrost and/or secret paths to get anywhere. I imagine it as being located at the centre of the universe, and the centre of time itself. This could explain how there are stories about Asgardians on Earth despite the person in question not having been old enough/alive at the time. The secret paths could be more unreliable i.e. you might show up a few hundred years late, and since the Bifrost was "harnessed" they've been abandoned.

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Hence why they need the Bifrost and/or secret paths to get anywhere. I imagine it as being located at the centre of the universe, and the centre of time itself. This could explain how there are stories about Asgardians on Earth despite the person in question not having been old enough/alive at the time. The secret paths could be more unreliable i.e. you might show up a few hundred years late, and since the Bifrost was "harnessed" they've been abandoned.abandoned.

[[WMG: Odin is ''not'' worthy to wield Mjollnir.]]
* The only time we see him hold Mjollnir, it's ''before'' he puts the enchantment on it.
* It explains why Odin doesn't put a similar enchantment on Gungnir (his spear). Perhaps as a king, he's had to do some morally ambiguous things to protect his kingdom.
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[[WMG: The Serpent in FearItself was either Vili or Ve]]

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[[WMG: The Serpent in FearItself Comicbook/FearItself was either Vili or Ve]]
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[[WMG: ''Thor 2'' lead into ''Captain America 2'']]
Thanos will recruit the Red Skull, who has been imprisoned in Odin's trophy room following ''CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', to steal the Infinity Gauntlet. He will then send Red Skull back to Midgard to serve as his herald, thus setting the plot for ''Captain America 2''.

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[[WMG: ''Thor 2'' lead leads into ''Captain America 2'']]
Thanos will recruit the Red Skull, who has been imprisoned in Odin's trophy room following ''CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', to steal the Infinity Gauntlet. He will then send Red Skull back to Midgard to serve as his herald, thus setting the plot for ''Captain America 2''.
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Her ability to revive and control the dead caused humans to mistake her for the goddess of death.

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Her ability to revive and control the dead caused humans to mistake her for the goddess of death.death.

[[WMG: Asgard isn't actually located in the same plane of existence as the other realms.]]
Hence why they need the Bifrost and/or secret paths to get anywhere. I imagine it as being located at the centre of the universe, and the centre of time itself. This could explain how there are stories about Asgardians on Earth despite the person in question not having been old enough/alive at the time. The secret paths could be more unreliable i.e. you might show up a few hundred years late, and since the Bifrost was "harnessed" they've been abandoned.
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2) Tom was a real person who was killed and Loki took his persona as a disguise, discovering the power of fangirls when they would want to get his autograph and hug him wherever he went. Soon, he will have an army so massive, no military on Midgard or Asgard can stop him.

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2) Tom was a real person who was killed and Loki took his persona as a disguise, discovering the power of fangirls when they would want to get his autograph and hug him wherever he went. Soon, he will have an army so massive, no military on Midgard or Asgard can stop him.him.

[[WMG: In the MarvelCinematicUniverse, Hel is a necromancer rather than the goddess of the dead.]]
Her ability to revive and control the dead caused humans to mistake her for the goddess of death.
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2) Tom was a real person who was killed and Loki took his persona as a disguise, discovering the power of fangirls when they would want to get his autograph and hug him wherever he went. Soon, he will have an army so massive, not military on Midgard or Asgard can stop him.

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2) Tom was a real person who was killed and Loki took his persona as a disguise, discovering the power of fangirls when they would want to get his autograph and hug him wherever he went. Soon, he will have an army so massive, not no military on Midgard or Asgard can stop him.
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It covers vast distances in seconds and works both ways, but there's still the problem of leaving it open, as Loki so kindly demonstrated on Jotunheim.

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It covers vast distances in seconds and works both ways, but there's still the problem of leaving it open, as Loki so kindly demonstrated on Jotunheim.Jotunheim.

[[WMG: Tom Hiddleston is really Loki]]
Seriously, this isn't up here yet. Well, here are two reasonings.

1) Loki is very easy going with the human technology, almost as if he's been around it for a long time. He came up with Tom's identity on one of his trips to Midgard when questioned by someone and he decided to keep that name, eventually starting an acting career, both to keep up appearances, but also to practice his trickster powers. Taking into account the NarniaTime theory above, so no one on Asgard would notice his long absences, and when he leaves Midgard, "Tom" will just be on vacation somewhere.

2) Tom was a real person who was killed and Loki took his persona as a disguise, discovering the power of fangirls when they would want to get his autograph and hug him wherever he went. Soon, he will have an army so massive, not military on Midgard or Asgard can stop him.
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[[WMG: Asgard is a [[TheCulture General Systems Vehicle]].]]
Really, it was hard ''not'' to think "omg its a GSV!" the first time Asgard showed up on screen.

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[[WMG: Asgard is a [[TheCulture [[Literature/TheCulture General Systems Vehicle]].]]
Really, it was hard ''not'' to think "omg its it's a GSV!" the first time Asgard showed up on screen.
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[[WMG: The Bifrost is a prototype [[VideoGame/MassEffect Mass Relay]]]]

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[[WMG: The Bifrost is a prototype [[VideoGame/MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect Mass Relay]]]]
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[[WMG: The Bifrost is a prototype Mass Relay.]]

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[[WMG: The Bifrost is a prototype [[VideoGame/MassEffect Mass Relay.]]Relay]]]]
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All the ballyhoo that SHIELD creates around the hammer due to not being able to move it could easily have been avoided, had [[MemeticBadass Phil Coulson]] simply just walked over and tried. He would have been worthy. Because even Odin thinks he's awesome.

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All the ballyhoo that SHIELD creates around the hammer due to not being able to move it could easily have been avoided, had [[MemeticBadass Phil Coulson]] simply just walked over and tried. He would have been worthy. Because even Odin thinks he's awesome.awesome.

[[WMG: The Bifrost is a prototype Mass Relay.]]
It covers vast distances in seconds and works both ways, but there's still the problem of leaving it open, as Loki so kindly demonstrated on Jotunheim.
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* Seems to be Jossed - [[spoiler: Loki's certainly locked up somewhere, but it looks like Thor went to get him first.]]
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*** TomHiddleston, the actor who plays him, has said that [[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/09/01/thor-2-tom-hiddleston/ he thinks that Loki might get a shot a redemption]] in the solo ''Thor'' sequel set after ''Film/TheAvengers''.

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*** TomHiddleston, Creator/TomHiddleston, the actor who plays him, has said that [[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/09/01/thor-2-tom-hiddleston/ he thinks that Loki might get a shot a redemption]] in the solo ''Thor'' sequel set after ''Film/TheAvengers''.



*** According to another interview with TomHiddleston, while there will be spots of hope for Loki's redemption in ''Film/TheAvengers'', he will not be redeemed. It is rather likely, however, that the bigger villain will turn up in ''Thor 2'' and Loki will join with Thor in order to defeat this new threat.

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*** According to another interview with TomHiddleston, Creator/TomHiddleston, while there will be spots of hope for Loki's redemption in ''Film/TheAvengers'', he will not be redeemed. It is rather likely, however, that the bigger villain will turn up in ''Thor 2'' and Loki will join with Thor in order to defeat this new threat.
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Some unimaginable long time ago, the Asgards had ran out of physical laws to break. Nothing more could be discovered, nothing more could be invented. So, the society became like gods, acted like gods. The problem was, the memories telling how to create the technology slowly dimmed, till as far as the Asgards were concerned they ARE gods. The technology is so advanced, it does not need to be maintained, but can't be easily rebuilt.

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Some unimaginable long time ago, the Asgards had ran out of physical laws to break. Nothing more could be discovered, nothing more could be invented. So, the society became like gods, acted like gods. The problem was, the memories telling how to create the technology slowly dimmed, till as far as the Asgards were concerned they ARE gods. The technology is so advanced, it does not need to be maintained, but can't be easily rebuilt.rebuilt.

[[WMG: If Phil Coulson had actually tried to lift Thor's hammer himself, he would have been able to.]]
All the ballyhoo that SHIELD creates around the hammer due to not being able to move it could easily have been avoided, had [[MemeticBadass Phil Coulson]] simply just walked over and tried. He would have been worthy. Because even Odin thinks he's awesome.
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Think about it; the wardrobe, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she gets high]].

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Think about it; the wardrobe, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she gets high]].high]].

[[WMG: The Asgardians are SufficientlyAdvancedAliens that just forgot everything they have is based on science]]
Some unimaginable long time ago, the Asgards had ran out of physical laws to break. Nothing more could be discovered, nothing more could be invented. So, the society became like gods, acted like gods. The problem was, the memories telling how to create the technology slowly dimmed, till as far as the Asgards were concerned they ARE gods. The technology is so advanced, it does not need to be maintained, but can't be easily rebuilt.
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* Yes, I agree with this troper: the movie established that the nine worlds of Yggdrasil were all connected, possibly by wormholes. Theoretically, these nine worlds, then, could be in their own parallel dimensions. Time could pass on different scales between these dimensions, allowing Loki (our age scale, since we know he was a baby when it was 903AD on Earth) to be in his late 20’s/early 30’s on Asgard when it is around 2010 on Earth, without actually living for more than a thousand years. This would allow an Asgardian living on Earth to age as Earth-dwellers do, but an Earth individual on Asgard could live thirty or so years there, return to Earth, and find that more than a thousand years have passed. This could make for interesting developments [[spoiler: when Jane returns to Earth after her adventures across the dimensions in The Dark World]]. But then how was Thor able to be banished and then rescued from Earth in the space of a few Earth days, an Earth week at most? Maybe Loki’s reign only lasted a few Asgardian hours. This theory explains the 'living for endless time' part of immortality, but it doesn’t explain the 'gods are indestructible' theory, that is, why Asgardian/Frost Giant individuals are capable of withstanding forces [[spoiler:(e.g. being slammed into the side of a mountain, falling from insane heights, wrestling with the Hulk, being smooshed into a marble floor, etc.)]] Earth individuals couldn’t really stand up to.
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Think about it; the wardrobe, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she get high]].

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Think about it; the wardrobe, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she get gets high]].
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Think about it; the outfit, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she get high]].

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Think about it; the outfit, wardrobe, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she get high]].
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[[WMG: Loki will turn into a woman.]]

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[[WMG: Loki will turn into a woman.]]]]

[[WMG: Darcy is a stoner.]]
Think about it; the outfit, the deadpan voice, how completely unphased she is by Thor. Oh yeah, [[TheDoors she get high]].
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[[Loki will turn into a woman.]]

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[[Loki [[WMG: Loki will turn into a woman.]]

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