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* Jossed by the fact that Link becomes [[spoiler:the Hero's Shade]] by the events of ''Twilight Princess''. [[spoiler: The Hero's Shade states that he became a knight and developed a number of powerful sword techniques that he failed to pass on before he died.]] If Link was already dead, he couldn't have done that.
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* The closest we get to seeing anything about the lost tribe is ''possibly'' the Moon Children. The Skull Kid is the same one from ''Ocarina of Time'' that you give the Skull Mask. There are other Skull Kids in that game, but not ''Majora's Mask''.
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[[WMG: Termina is outside of the time flow of Hyrule, so that while there are two Hyrule timelines there is only one Majora's Mask timeline.]]
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[[WMG: Termina is outside of the time flow of Hyrule, so that while there are two three Hyrule timelines there is only one Majora's Mask timeline.]]
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* The only issue is that except in Ocarina of Time, Dark Link is explicitly mentioned as being a copy of Link created using Shadow magic. There can also be more than one of him at once. VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures and VideoGame/HyruleWarriors both have multiple copies of him running around at once. They're also implied to be mostly mindless puppets. The one in Ocarina of Time is implied to be magic as well, since he doesn't appear in the room until after Link checks the door out of the room they fight in, which also has an illusion to appear as a foggy lake with small buildings in it until he's beaten. Then it just looks like a normal room.
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[[WMG: The Fierce Deity is Link's Termina counterpart...]]
The first Link, that is. He received whatever the Termina counterpart of the Triforce of Power was, instead of the Termina Triforce of Courage, causing him to gain great power and lived long enough to become considered a deity. Then he died in some battle (probably sealing Majora in the past or something), and someone played the Song of Healing, creating the Fierce Deity's Mask.
The first Link, that is. He received whatever the Termina counterpart of the Triforce of Power was, instead of the Termina Triforce of Courage, causing him to gain great power and lived long enough to become considered a deity. Then he died in some battle (probably sealing Majora in the past or something), and someone played the Song of Healing, creating the Fierce Deity's Mask.
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They are the parallels to Twinrova, who were one of the major bosses of Ocarina of Time and attempted to screw with the deities' will. One of the Termina witches refers to the Skull Kid as a harmless little punk, despite his abilities to warp space, travel between dimensions, and potential immortality (or even having conquered death, which is admittably not that big a deal in MM and other 3D Zelda games). The only things they do in the game are make potions, remotely pilot a boat, and fly on a broomstick, but their comparison to Twinrova should be enough to suggest they can do more, let alone their mostly-dismissal of the Skull Kid even with Majora's Mask.
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They are the parallels to Twinrova, who were one of the major bosses of Ocarina ''Ocarina of Time Time'' and attempted to screw with the deities' will. One of the Termina witches refers to the Skull Kid as a harmless little punk, despite his abilities to warp space, travel between dimensions, and potential immortality (or even having conquered death, which is admittably not that big a deal in MM ''MM'' and other 3D Zelda ''Zelda'' games). The only things they do in the game are make potions, remotely pilot a boat, and fly on a broomstick, but their comparison to Twinrova should be enough to suggest they can do more, let alone their they're mostly-dismissal of the Skull Kid even with Majora's Mask.
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Possibly in the form of the Happy Mask Salesman giving you a WhatTheHellHero speech.
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Possibly in the form of the Happy Mask Salesman giving you a WhatTheHellHero speech. speech while shaking you like mad.
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[[WMG: The remake will give Majora's Mask an additional form if you use the Fierce Deity's Mask.]]
Not only would it be a great surprise, it can give the Fierce Deity's Mask an actual challenge to fight against.
[[WMG: The remake will acknowledge if you were fishing by the time the moon hits.]]
Possibly in the form of the Happy Mask Salesman giving you a WhatTheHellHero speech.
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*What you're implying is that Majora is a sadist?
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* Also they both play the piano (or an organ in Ganondorf's case)
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[[WMG: Majora created the Fierce Deity's Mask itself.]]
It either made the mask out of whole cloth or imprisoned the Fierce Deity inside it. It gave the mask to Link because….well, why not? It's all but stated Majora sees the whole conflict as a game of tag and Link as something like a WorthyOpponent. It's not whether you win or lose the game, it's how you play.
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* This would make sense, since otherwise the Deku Scrub is the "odd one out" among the individuals who provide Link with the transformation masks. Darmani and Mikau are heroes to their own people, albeit in different ways, whereas the Deku Butler's son doesn't have any claim to fame other than being….well, the butler's son. It seems likely that he was at least athletic, and the butler says he "left home long ago", implying some wanderlust on his part and maybe an adventurous streak.
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** Alternatively, Termina is one of the ''last'' universes created, with the earliest universes being the ones most identical to Hyrule and Termina being fairly distinct, i.e., relatively more advanced in terms of technology and science,
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* Kafei is [[FountainOfYouth a man trapped in a child's body]]. For the bulk of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime his last adventure]], Link was [[OvernightAgeUp a child trapped in a man's body]]. Hmm...
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* Kafei is [[FountainOfYouth a man trapped in a child's body]]. For the bulk of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime his last adventure]], Link was [[OvernightAgeUp a child trapped in a man's body]]. Hmm...
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** By the same token, whereas Link is of humble origin, never knew his family, and seems to have little time for romance, Kafei is the son of Clock Town's most important citizens, has loving parents, and is passionately in love with Anju. And for whatever it's worth, there are obvious parallels to be drawn between Kafei and Ravio, Link's counterpart in ''TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds''; both wear masks and have purple hair.
** By the same token, whereas Link is of humble origin, never knew his family, and seems to have little time for romance, Kafei is the son of Clock Town's most important citizens, has loving parents, and is passionately in love with Anju. And for whatever it's worth, there are obvious parallels to be drawn between Kafei and Ravio, Link's counterpart in ''TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds''; both wear masks and have purple hair.
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[[WMG: The Music Box House in Ikana Canyon that Pamela and her father live in was once Guru-Guru's residence.]]
The house seems tailor made for the guy, given his love of music and the house's connection to the Song of Storms. How'd you like to hear ''that'' tune blaring from the place 24/7?
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The house seems tailor made for theguy, given his love of music guy. It's the closest thing to a windmill (his counterpart's residence) seen in Termina, it's located in the resident "creepy ghost area" in both worlds, and the house's it has a connection to the Song of Storms. Storms, which Guru-Guru always plays. How'd you like to hear ''that'' tune blaring from the place 24/7?
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[[WMG: The Music Box House in Ikana Canyon that Pamela and her father live in was once Guru-Guru's residence.]]
The house seems tailor made for the guy, given his love of music and the house's connection to the Song of Storms. How'd you like to hear ''that'' tune blaring from the place 24/7?
The house seems tailor made for the guy, given his love of music and the house's connection to the Song of Storms. How'd you like to hear ''that'' tune blaring from the place 24/7?
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Nobody said Link had to leave Termina on the fourth day, and with the moon no longer falling, he's got all the time in the world to help the people of Termina that he missed the chance to before. That explains why Kafei's wedding happens no matter whether you helped him in this cycle or not, because even if you didn't, Link doubled back and helped Kafei reclaim the Sun's Mask, anyway.
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* They didn't actually tone anything down, scary content-wise, worry not!
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[[WMG: The Banker is aware that time is repeating itself, and has a treasure chest that is immune to time travel.]]
He stores all of Link's rupees in the treasure chest, and that's why he always knows how much is in there, whether you put them in (or take them out) on day 1 or day 3. The treasure chest is immune to time travel.
He stores all of Link's rupees in the treasure chest, and that's why he always knows how much is in there, whether you put them in (or take them out) on day 1 or day 3. The treasure chest is immune to time travel.
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* It could be that Nintendo focused on the creepiness because that's what WE focus on. Not Tropers, but the big time Majora's Mask fans. They were appealing to the fanbase in the trailer. Whether it will be creepier or not... I think I've heard that the OoT remake toned down some of the creepiness of the original game. I still haven't played the remake, so I can't say for certain.
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[[WMG: Nintendo will up the creepiness BIG TIME in the rerelease]]
Watch the first trailer for Majora 3D. It's spooky and almost soley focused on the game's most creepy moments and music. The friggen Elegy statue made it in (and appeared somewhere it was previously impossible for him to be summoned...). Scarier visuals, higher intensity, a BenDrowned ShoutOut, I saw all bets are off now.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, this Termina IS a parallel universe, BUT...]]
The universe Link comes from also has its own Termina, just west of this Hyrule, southwest of TP Hyrule.
The universe Link comes from also has its own Termina, just west of this Hyrule, southwest of TP Hyrule.
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It would explain his apparent powers and creepy nature, as well as giving some explanation for his job choice. As Skyward Sword establishes that demons tend to be a WalkingWasteland, and staying in one place too long can corrupt the local wildlife. As such a career that allows him to constantly move around would allow him to stay amongst hylians without any of the negative effects.
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It would explain his apparent powers and creepy nature, as well as giving some explanation for his job choice. As Skyward Sword establishes that demons tend to be a WalkingWasteland, and staying in one place too long can corrupt the local wildlife. As such a career that allows him to constantly move around would allow him to stay amongst hylians without any of the negative effects.
effects. He also may be attempting to become human, given that his entire shop is themed around happiness, and gratitude is the fastest way to do so.
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[[WMG: The Happy Mask Salesman is a Demon.]]
It would explain his apparent powers and creepy nature, as well as giving some explanation for his job choice. As Skyward Sword establishes that demons tend to be a WalkingWasteland, and staying in one place too long can corrupt the local wildlife. As such a career that allows him to constantly move around would allow him to stay amongst hylians without any of the negative effects.
It would explain his apparent powers and creepy nature, as well as giving some explanation for his job choice. As Skyward Sword establishes that demons tend to be a WalkingWasteland, and staying in one place too long can corrupt the local wildlife. As such a career that allows him to constantly move around would allow him to stay amongst hylians without any of the negative effects.
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[[WMG: Majora is the Terminans name for the Daedric Prince Sheogorath.]]
They're both utterly insane, share a similar color scheme, primarily purples. Both have a tendency to turn things into other things, ala the Wabbajack, and both also tried to drop a moon on a city. Majora did so to Clock Town. Sheogorath to the city Vivec. Majora's Mask is one the Daedric artifacts like the Wabbajack.
They're both utterly insane, share a similar color scheme, primarily purples. Both have a tendency to turn things into other things, ala the Wabbajack, and both also tried to drop a moon on a city. Majora did so to Clock Town. Sheogorath to the city Vivec. Majora's Mask is one the Daedric artifacts like the Wabbajack.
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[[WMG: Lorule's Termina counterpart is a stable environment that cannot be doomed]]
And it's version of Majora's Mask goes around making everyone's life better... before being killed by the equally good Fierce Deity
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[[WMG: Zant is Majora's Hyrulian counterpart]]
it's been shown with the Romani Ranch sisters that counterparts from different times can coexist
it's been shown with the Romani Ranch sisters that counterparts from different times can coexist
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* Someone once posited that the Ikana Kingdom is the way it is, because its inhabitants mocked the gods by depicting the Triforce upside-down in most of the architecture in their kingdom. However, now we know (or rather, now Nintendo has decided) that the upside-down Triforce is the Triforce of Lorule (an alternate dimension version of Hyrule). Thus, not only is Termina a parallel universe, it is the same parallel universe that Lorule is in. This probably suggests there was a Hyrule version of Termina, but the events of the game take place in the Lorulian version.
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**To go in-line with actual events that could happen within the univers and not contriving a fourth-wall breaking phenomenon, Link is afraid of his own power and "sealed it away" in a mask he made himself. He carried this with him as a reminder of how truly terrifying and powerful he can be but also as a way to make sure he would never unleash this power. When he's stripped of everything within the Moon, including his collection of masks that were given to him for his various good deeds, he realizes that he needs to use this power and becomes the "fierce diety" he imagines himself to be by putting on a mask, which makes him feel justified in using his full power as well as freeing him of any guilt due to the devastation he might cause from completely cutting loose. Basically, the mask itself functions as Link's WorldOfCardboardSpeech.
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** The Happy Mask Salesman's dialogue notes that
-->"''It is called Majora’s Mask. It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals…''”
-->"''According to legend… the troubles caused by Majora’s Mask were so great… the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in '''shadow''' forever, preventing its misuse…''”
This lends a lot of credibility to this theory. After all, the Dark Interlopers were noted to be masters of magic, and dark magic like hexing would be a powerful weapon indeed, judging from what we see the mask do over the course of the game.
-->"''It is called Majora’s Mask. It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals…''”
-->"''According to legend… the troubles caused by Majora’s Mask were so great… the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in '''shadow''' forever, preventing its misuse…''”
This lends a lot of credibility to this theory. After all, the Dark Interlopers were noted to be masters of magic, and dark magic like hexing would be a powerful weapon indeed, judging from what we see the mask do over the course of the game.
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[[WMG: The Happy Mask Salesman is related in some way to the G-man from Half-Life.]]
Just because. Also, the fact that both of them seem to appear at the right time with instructions and have knowledge that they should not have. G-man did mention that he had associates.
Just because. Also, the fact that both of them seem to appear at the right time with instructions and have knowledge that they should not have. G-man did mention that he had associates.
