History WMG / TheLastOfUs

** Ellie's mother's name is Anna. You hear it in one of Marlene's recorders. So not the character Zoey from L4D2.

[[WMG: Maria thought Ellie's was Joel's daughter at first, like Henry did.]]

[[WMG: If the Ellie had been conscious then she ''wouldn't'' have been okay with sacrificing herself.]]

Because in his mind, there couldn't have any been any other reason why an older man would travel around with a little girl who wasn't his daughter, and his comment that, "You won't survive long out there. I can protect you," doesn't make much sense if it's not meant to refer to David protecting Ellie from Joel, specifically, since he should know that Ellie is perfectly capable of fighting off infected and finding food. He may have believed (or wanted to Ellie to believe) that he could "rescue" her from what he thought was an abusive relationship.

And if Maria assumed Ellie was Joel's kid, it would be natural for her to mention Sarah if she's already surprised because Tommy has only ever talked about Sarah. They don't really say anything to indicate that they aren't related until later, besides Joel being surprised that Ellie knows how to ride a horse, but that could easily be chalked up to her mostly living with her mother until recently - which would also be a reason for them suddenly showing up in Jackson, if her mother had recently died.

[[WMG:The man in the truck with Ellie in the August 2022 teaser for the show is David, but it's a trauma flashback]]
It's not Joel or Tommy, and Ellie seems to be wearing her spring outfit of the red shirt and grey long sleeves. Who else would be in a car with her?

Also to expand on this...

[[WMG:David is going to be played by Troy Baker]]
Both Troy and Ashley have confirmed they'll be in the show, and David's casting hasn't been announced. Like with Nolan North's casting in the game, it would be a surprising choice. And also just a little mean which makes it fun to speculate about.

And if Maria assumed Ellie was Joel's kid, it would be natural for her to mention Sarah if she's already surprised because Tommy has only ever talked about Sarah. They don't really say anything to indicate that they aren't related until later, besides Joel being surprised that Ellie knows how to ride a horse, but that could easily be chalked up to her mostly living with her mother until recently - which would also be a reason for them suddenly showing up in Jackson, if her mother had recently died.

[[WMG:The Last Of Us is a prequel to [[VideoGame/GodsEaterBurst God Eater]].]]

Tommy left the Fireflies around 2027-2028, around six years before he meets up with Joel again. It's implied he spent a fairly long time with them, maybe a solid five or six more years, maybe more. Could be as many as fifteen or sixteen years since he last saw Joel. Guessing kids' ages isn't an exact science and Ellie could look as young as twelve, the age Joel asks if she is at the beginning of the game.

The game is set in 2033, Ellie was born well into the outbreak, we are told Anna died a day after Ellie was born, what I think happened is Anna got infected unknowingly before childbirth, and died because she asked Marlene to kill her, a bit of the infection was passed on to Ellie, the reason Ellie is immune is because she has been infected since birth, but only a little part of the infection passed over, and her body has adapted to it, neutering the more aggressive aspects. This presents a horrific solution, if anyone ever figures it out, deliberately infecting pregnant women a few days before birth, enough for the infection to start taking hold but short enough that they won't become a [[NightmareFuel pregnant infected]].

She knew it but she didn't tell Joel and Tess, because she knew that if she told Tess and Joel that they had to escort Ellie to the St. Marys hospital she would of probably got a big "HELL NO" as well as a fight for her life for the stolen merchandise. In the near end of the game notice how Marlene was in the hospital with Joel despite how she wasn't so called "up to the task at first". She wanted Ellie to get to the hospital to get her brains tore out for a CHANCE to make a cure but simply didn't feel like escorting Ellie herself. So by playing her cards right she managed to get Joel and Tess to do the pain in ass job for her.

* Jossed. It's revealed in the game that the ''cordyceps'' infection has annihilated over 60% of humanity... [[ApocalypseAnarchy and what's left of humanity is doing a damn good job of destroying itself, with or without the fungus's help.]] [[RealityEnsues Not to mention that if it WERE true that only the US were affected, just letting the US die without any kind of action would collapse world economy like no one's business.]]

The game is set in 2033, Ellie was born well into the outbreak, we are told Anna died a day after Ellie was born, what I think happened is Anna got infected unknowingly before childbirth, and died because she asked Marlene to kill her, a bit of the infection was passed on to Ellie, the reason Ellie is immune is because she has been infected since birth, but only a little part of the infection passed over, and her body has adapted to it, neutering the more aggressive aspects.

It's mentioned above that currently the Cordyceps can't infect humans, at least not like it does in the game. It's also mentioned in Heartwarming that nature is taking the planet back, what if these things are not separate but that nature itself caused the Cordyceps in order to kill humanity off so that the planet can recover.

* [[spoiler: After killing the search team sent to rescue him, the now [[EmptyShell totally broken]] Walker made his way back to America while the plague was raging. Having already crossed both the MoralEventHorizon ''and'' DespairEventHorizon in Dubai, it would've been very easy for him to turn to cannibalism to survive. He adopted the "David" identity to keep the remnants of the US military off his trail.The cordyceps plague would also explain why there was no aid for Dubai after the sandstorm-the rest of the world was simply too preoccupied with a bigger crisis.]]

Related to the above, if Ellie had got to the Firefly lab right away she would've seen Marleen's point, particularly while mourning Riley and likely feeling guilty for getting her killed. However through her journey with Joel she has been exposed to the worst of Humanity and potentially may have seen Joel's side by the end, that Humanity didn't deserve a cure, or at least she didn't want to die for it.

It's known in real life that a cannibalistic diet can lead to such an infection, and him having it would explain why he seemed to be so unhinged even compared to the rest of his people. As for why it only affected ''him'' and not them, though? He's the leader of the group, and has been described as having "pets" like Ellie before she came around, so it's not unreasonable to believe that he perhaps has his own personal supply of meat that's separate from the scraps his followers get. Therefore, he was already in the process of losing his mind by the time he came upon Ellie in the wood, and across the day or so they knew each other, he only got crazier and crazier right up until the end.

It's implied that Joel was in a coma for quite a while between the university and David. It is possible he had some kind of dream, seeing how bad the world had gotten, and that the vaccine would make things worse for the world. We know he was already turning against Ellie helping the fireflies (he kept trying to talk Ellie out of it before they were captured by the fireflies) was he just selfish? Was he trying to invoke LaserGuidedKarma or had he seen the truth of the world, and was simply trying to stop the Fireflies making it worse.

** Sorta confirmed. You can find a news article about ''VideoGame/{{Uncharted}} 13'' in a toy store. The best part? [[CrowningMomentOfFunny It has Justin Bieber as Drake]].

[[WMG: The vaccine wouldn't have made the world better, it would've made the world ''worse'.]]
Think about it, it's no secret that the worse enemies, the more evil, cruel and dangerous ones, were humans. Between the martial law enforcing government, the hunters and the cannibals and even the fireflies, opportunistic humans have grabbed power in the world over the past 20 years, Tommy's town shows that a decent community can survive without turning to savagery, the other factions could take routes like that, but ''choose'' not to. But why haven't they tried to expand their territories? The infected. The infected keep people isolated, but they prevent the ambitions of the bandits throughout the country from spreading, because they don't want to risk wasting ammo and soldiers fighting the infected causing them to loose upcoming fights for control. Take the infected away and...
[[WMG: Connected to the above, Joel came to this conclusion due to a dream he had while injured]]

Hear me out here, since both Ellie and Riley were bitten by the same zombie, it's entirely possible that Riley isn't actually dead yet because she has the same immunity to the virus that Ellie has. So maybe Riley decided to go off on her own and Ellie merely assumed she died but NeverFoundTheBody as proof. So i'm guessing that Riley will make a surprising appearance in the sequel with the revelation of her own immunity to the virus, and she ends up taking over leadership of the Fireflies and tries to find a cure for the virus via blood sample from her and Ellie.