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** Not redwood. Predominantly softwoods. Most likely to be in the region of Quebec, as the Pacific Northwest is where the Capitol is.
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** It is stated to be a week's walk from District 12. Probably somewhere around New Hampshire.
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** It is stated to be a week's walk from District 12. Probably somewhere around New Hampshire.
Unless a new seam popped up, it ''has'' to be in the vicinity of the Laurentides, probably Quebec.
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** Might also be New England/Canada's Maritime provinces, given the residents' naming habits (Finnick like Fionn, Odair being a name already, Annie). Said areas are probably the most associated with maritime industries to begin with.
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** Might also be Finnick wasn't too familiar with tropical plants: Mags ate some nuts based on knowledge from previous games. District 4 is probably New England/Canada's England and/or Canada's Maritime provinces, given the residents' naming habits (Finnick like Fionn, Odair being a name already, Annie). Said areas as these regions are probably the most ''strongly'' associated with maritime industries industry. Furthermore, Finnick is described (and named) in a distinctly Celtic way, which is closely tied to begin with.said region.
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** West Virginia is perhaps the most feasible option. It's also the second poorest state, and churns out a ''lot'' more coal than Pennsylvania.
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** West Virginia is perhaps the most feasible option. It's also at present the second poorest state, and churns out a ''lot'' more coal than Pennsylvania.
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** West Virginia is perhaps the most feasible option aside from Pennsylvania, if not the most. It's also the second poorest state, and churns out a ''lot'' more coal than Pennsylvania.
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* District 10: Livestock/husbandry. Probably Midwest.Midwest and into Canada's prairie provinces.
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** West Virginia is perhaps the most feasible option aside from Pennsylvania, if not the most. It's also the second poorest state, and churns out a ''lot'' more coal than Pennsylvania.
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* The Capitol: It's in the mountains, by the ocean. Pacific Northwest/British Columbia.
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* District 11: Agricultural. Clearly implied to be the South.
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* District 11: Agricultural. Clearly implied to be the South.Southeast as the train that Katniss and Peeta take heads that way.
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** Might also be New England/Canada's Maritime provinces, given the residents' naming protocol (Finnick like Fionn, Odair being a name already, Annie). Said areas are much more reliant on maritime industries than the Gulf Coast ever has been.
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** Might also be New England/Canada's Maritime provinces, given the residents' naming protocol (Finnick like Fionn, Odair being a name already, Annie). Said areas are much more reliant on maritime industries than the Gulf Coast ever has been.
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** Colorado and environs, without dispute. Marble is mentioned as an export, and Colorado is the only mountainous producer of marble on the continent.
* District 3: Electronics,so maybe Silicon Valley?probably California.
* District 3: Electronics,
** Might also be New England/Canada's Maritime provinces, given the residents' naming protocol (Finnick like Fionn, Odair being a name already, Annie).
** Not redwood. Predominantly softwoods. Most likely to be in the region of Quebec, as the Pacific Northwest is where the Capitol is.
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* District 11: Agricultural. Several options, keeping in mind it has to grow grains, and Rue worked in orchards. Maybe California? Or the midwest (less likely)? Or, given the "dark skin" it could be the South?
* District 11: Agricultural. Several options, keeping in mind it has to grow grains, and Rue worked in orchards. Maybe California? Or the midwest (less likely)? Or, given the "dark skin" it could be the South?
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10: Livestock/husbandry. Probably Midwest.
* District 11: Agricultural.Several options, keeping in mind it has Clearly implied to grow grains, and Rue worked in orchards. Maybe California? Or the midwest (less likely)? Or, given the "dark skin" it could be the South?South.
* District 11: Agricultural.
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** It is stated to be a week's walk from District 12. Probably somewhere around New Hampshire.
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** Panem is definitely in what used to be North America. Apothecaries were present in colonial North America, they're not uniquely Persian. The term apothecary was probably chosen because chemist/pharmacist wasn't exactly fitting: An apothecary often has more experience with "natural" remedies, like Katniss' mother and grandparents, whereas a pharmacist relies more on chemical ingredients.
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* Apothecary is also in Shakespeare. Just because Civ IV uses it in Persia doesn't mean it's a Persian thing. Besides, isn't Panem in North America? And what Persian government are you referring to?
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[[WMG:Where is everything?]]
Since WordOfGod states there will be no map, we may as well try to figure it out on our own. This troper thinks it's obvious that all of Panem is in North America, most likely in the former USA.
* The Capitol: It's in the mountains, and probably somewhat central. Denver, maybe?
* District 1: Luxury goods. Could be anywhere, probably a former metropolitan center like New York City.
* District 2: "Stone quarries" but also strategic location.
* District 3: Electronics, so maybe Silicon Valley?
* District 4: Fishing, also Finnick seems to know something about tropical plants. Somewhere on the Gulf Coast?
* District 5: ...
* District 6: ...
* District 7: Lumber, IIRC including redwood. Pacific Northwest?
* District 8: Textiles.
* District 9: ...
* District 10: ...
* District 11: Agricultural. Several options, keeping in mind it has to grow grains, and Rue worked in orchards. Maybe California? Or the midwest (less likely)? Or, given the "dark skin" it could be the South?
* District 12: Coal. Probably Pennsylvania or other Appalachian coal center.
* District 13: "Graphite", also major strategic/nuclear location. Nevada?
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* May also be a corruption of Peter, as another WMG shows. The etymology behind which fits his character pretty well. Possibly a combination of both elements.
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* Only further backed up by ''Mockingjay'', wherein most of the movement throughout the Capitol occurs via service shafts and the like. Anyone who has played Mirror's Edge knows just how much time you spend in ventilation ducts.
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Nearly everyone's name is a noun of some sort (Katniss, Snow, Gale, Primrose,etc,) but Peeta isn't. It's argued it's a corruption of a type of bread, which also makes sense, but since this was our world (probably), some names remaining makes sense.
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Nearly everyone's name is a noun of some sort (Katniss, Snow, Gale, Primrose,etc,) Primrose, etc) but Peeta isn't. It's argued it's a corruption of a type of bread, which also makes sense, but since this was our world (probably), some names remaining makes sense.
** The etymology fits remarkably well, although the truth probably lies somewhere between this and the WMG that he's named after the type of bread.
** The etymology fits remarkably well, although the truth probably lies somewhere between this and the WMG that he's named after the type of bread.
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* May also be a corruption of Peter, the as another WMG shows. The etymology behind which fits his character pretty well. Possibly a combination of both elements.
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** Only further backed up by ''Mockingjay'', wherein most of the movement throughout the Capitol occurs via service shafts and the like. Anyone who has played Mirror's Edge knows just how much time you spend in ventilation ducts.
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*** Yet [[spoiler: Teem Peeta]] aren't satisfied despite being the OfficialCouple at the end, and their reasoning gives more credence to this WMG.
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[[WMG:Lavinia (the Avox that Katniss recognizes) was escaping to District 13 when Katniss and Gale saw her and the boy in the woods.]]
Both Katniss and Peeta felt like she looked like she was from the Capital. Why else would someone from the Capital be in District 12?
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** PanderingToTheBase being an understatement: Judging by the whining that exists with the present ending, if Collins had done anything less, it'd be hissy fits heard around the globe.
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* Collins intended a different ending, one in which Katniss ends up with [[TakeAThirdOption neither Peeta or Gale,]] but [[PanderingToTheBase her editor said no.]]
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"Proof": The Apothecary is the Persian replacement for the Grocer in CivilizationIV. Perhaps the government of District 12 pays lip service to the Capitol while in reality paying tributes to the Shahs/Supreme Leaders/Whoever's leading Iran/Persia at the time? [[supersecretspoiler:And perhaps the destruction of District 12 in ''Catching Fire'' occured when the government of Panem figured out that District 12 wasn't actually part of their country?]]
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"Proof": The Apothecary is the Persian replacement for the Grocer in CivilizationIV. Perhaps the government of District 12 pays lip service to the Capitol while in reality paying tributes to being run by the Shahs/Supreme Leaders/Whoever's leading Iran/Persia at the time? [[supersecretspoiler:And perhaps the destruction of District 12 in ''Catching Fire'' occured when the government of Panem figured out that District 12 wasn't actually part of their country?]]
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He's going to die. Collins always kills off mentors of the main characters. And I'm gonna bet that at least one of Gale's sibs is going to expire before the end of the book. who else is going down?
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He's going to die. Collins always kills off mentors of the main characters. And I'm gonna bet that at least one of Gale's sibs is going to expire before the end of the book. who Who else is going down?
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He's going to die. Collins always kills off mentors of the main characters. And I'm gonna bet that at least one of Gale's sibs is going to expire before the end of the book. who else is going down?
He's going to die. Collins always kills off mentors of the main characters. And I'm gonna bet that at least one of Gale's sibs is going to expire before the end of the book. who else is going down?
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[[WMG: The Reapings are all rigged.]]
Katniss has already stated that the children of victors aren't excluded, and in fact they're put in the arena too often to be luck of the draw. So those are definitely rigged. The reapings could be rigged to weed out anyone who might try to start an uprising while they're still young. Peeta talks about not being the Capitol's pawn in the Games, and it's possible he's disliked the Capitol and spoke about it at some point before the reaping. We already know that Katniss said bad things about the Capitol as a child. Prim was chosen in the reaping because it was known that Katniss hunted illegally and they didn't want her to be able to win with her hunting skills, so hurting her emotionally by having her sister killed was the best thing they could do to her. Gale was never chosen because he has hunting skills and he's strong, giving him a chance to win, and the Capitol doesn't want anyone who is against them to become a victor.
Katniss has already stated that the children of victors aren't excluded, and in fact they're put in the arena too often to be luck of the draw. So those are definitely rigged. The reapings could be rigged to weed out anyone who might try to start an uprising while they're still young. Peeta talks about not being the Capitol's pawn in the Games, and it's possible he's disliked the Capitol and spoke about it at some point before the reaping. We already know that Katniss said bad things about the Capitol as a child. Prim was chosen in the reaping because it was known that Katniss hunted illegally and they didn't want her to be able to win with her hunting skills, so hurting her emotionally by having her sister killed was the best thing they could do to her. Gale was never chosen because he has hunting skills and he's strong, giving him a chance to win, and the Capitol doesn't want anyone who is against them to become a victor.
