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* We only see what happens to one character (Eleanor, who turns into a bunch of spirit mote things, which can somehow positively influence people). Maybe it's different for each person, based on what they want (some just cease to exist, others reincarnate, others might become some fictional character they liked in life in a ParallelUniverse, others might have some fate that's [[YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm not even imaginable to humans in their current state]], but still presumably a good thing.)

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* We only see what happens to one character (Eleanor, who turns into a bunch of spirit mote things, which can somehow positively influence people). Maybe it's different for each person, based on what they want (some just cease to exist, others reincarnate, others might become some fictional character they liked in life in a ParallelUniverse, others might have some fate that's [[YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm not even imaginable to humans in their current state]], but still presumably a good thing.))
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[[WMG: The fate of those passing through the arch at the end varies from person to person]]
* We only see what happens to one character (Eleanor, who turns into a bunch of spirit mote things, which can somehow positively influence people). Maybe it's different for each person, based on what they want (some just cease to exist, others reincarnate, others might become some fictional character they liked in life in a ParallelUniverse, others might have some fate that's [[YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm not even imaginable to humans in their current state]], but still presumably a good thing.)
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**Unlikely, since Janet also sees Michael as a father figure.
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** Sadly, Michael never got an opposite number during the course of the show's run.

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Due to [[spoiler:his essence disintegrating across the universe in the finale]], not only is Jason hypothetically Florida Man, he might literally have inspired every Florida Man.

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Due to [[spoiler:his essence disintegrating across the universe in the finale]], not only is Jason hypothetically Florida Man, he might literally have every act attributed to Florida Man was in fact inspired every Florida Man.by him.
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[[WMG: Jason is Florida Man]]
Due to [[spoiler:his essence disintegrating across the universe in the finale]], not only is Jason hypothetically Florida Man, he might literally have inspired every Florida Man.
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* Eleanor simply wants to find a way to belong there, i.e. she wants a home. she is Dorothy.

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* Eleanor simply wants to find a way to belong there, i.e. she wants a home. she She is Dorothy.
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[[WMG: The main characters are modeled after those in The Wizard of Oz]]
Particularly in season 1, before the big twist is revealed.
* Eleanor simply wants to find a way to belong there, i.e. she wants a home. she is Dorothy.
* Jason is the Scarecrow: he is extremely dumb, but capable of insight at times, so he needs a brain.
* Tahani is the Tin Man: for all her great works, she was not truly doing any of it to benefit others, and needs to become more selfless: she needs a heart.
* Chidi is easy: he requires courage. He is the Cowardly Lion.
* Michael is the Wizard: secretly a fraud all along (but maybe not as terrible a person deep down as his deception makes it seem).
* Janet is Glinda: She appears whenever she is needed to provide the characters with assistance.
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* I think this already happened. We know the judge is real. I think case 00002 was Mindy. Judge Jen said, upon their arrival, that she hadn't had any cases in like 30 years, and Mindy said nobody had said anything to her in like 30 years. Mindy's placement was a compromise after the 2 sides had been bickering. The judge would have ruled over this. The timeline fits (assuming the reboots all took place on parallel temporal planes). When the first fake Good Place was close to falling apart, and they got Shawn to play the judge, they used the real case number system because lies work better when they're close to the truth (a rule Michael used other times as well). Mindy helped the team several times, and ultimately helped them figure out a solution to escaping (the fact they were basically winning because they kept breaking the system), and by giving Elanor the sextape that ultimately made her realize she loved Chidi. Case 00002 really was the key to getting out, because she gave Elanor a means of escaping in the form of the knowledge that they were winning. Vicky was just a spanner in the works that made it all moot by causing a team-up.
* Case 00001 was probably the first mortal to die, and therefore the president setter for all Good/Bad place rulings, Mindy being a fluke was case 00002 because of her middling status, which still would hold that Elanor would be case 3.

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* I think this already happened. We know the judge is real. I think case 00002 was Mindy. Judge Jen Gen said, upon their arrival, that she hadn't had any cases in like 30 years, and Mindy said nobody had said anything to her in like 30 years. Mindy's placement was a compromise after the 2 sides had been bickering. The judge would have ruled over this. The timeline fits (assuming the reboots all took place on parallel temporal planes). When the first fake Good Place was close to falling apart, and they got Shawn to play the judge, they used the real case number system because lies work better when they're close to the truth (a rule Michael used other times as well). Mindy helped the team several times, and ultimately helped them figure out a solution to escaping (the fact they were basically winning because they kept breaking the system), and by giving Elanor the sextape that ultimately made her realize she loved Chidi. Case 00002 really was the key to getting out, because she gave Elanor a means of escaping in the form of the knowledge that they were winning. Vicky was just a spanner in the works that made it all moot by causing a team-up.
* Case 00001 was probably the first mortal to die, and therefore the president precedent setter for all Good/Bad place rulings, Mindy being a fluke was case 00002 because of her middling status, which still would hold that Elanor would be case 3.

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[[WMG: There is a Disco Place]]
In addition to the Good Place, the Bad Place, the Medium Place, Accounting, theres a Disco Place. THERE must be a reason for Disco Place

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[[WMG:Glenn will defect to Michael's and the humans side]]
Think about it. Glenn is the butt of verbal abuse from Shawn, and not in the "fun" demon kind of way,and if you watched The Selection, he was the only demon who had reservations about using underhanded tactics to get the experiment to fail.
* Partially confirmed in "Tinker Tailor Demon Spy". Glenn decided that Shawn had gone too far and decided to inform the group about Shawn's meddling. Glenn's turned to goop before we get to see if this was a one-off or if he'd turn against the Bad Place.

[[WMG: Season 4 will happen in The Real Good Place]]
* It will feature Team Cockroach trying to escape paradise because humans are fickle, and even a real heaven will become boring to them since it lacks the challenge, and therefore purpose, that 'The Good Place' gave them. Leading them to discover either that GoodIsNotNice. They'll try to return to the original Good Bad Place. This would tie back to Michael's Season 1 comment about Frozen Yogurt "It's very human to take something good, and ruin it just a little bit, so you can have more of it."
* Eventually confirmed. Team Cockroach makes it to the Real Good Place at the very end of Season 4 and discover that it's actually a bit of a bummer. Instead of returning to the Good Bad Place, however, they decide to enact reforms to make life in the Good Place more meaningful.

[[WMG: Michael will become the new head of the Good Place.]]
* It's been proven that the Good Place members are completely and utterly [[GoodIsImpotent incompetent]] and [[StupidGood indecisive]] to do anything constructive on humanity's behalf. Meanwhile, Michael, the AscendedDemon, knows when to lie and cheat when needs to, and because he's come to [[HumanityIsInfectious appreciate humans]], he can use those tricks towards a good cause. He'll essentially replace Judge Gen as the equivalent of {{God}} of the CelestialBureaucracy. Fittingly, since his human form can be considered to be a modern take on the [[GrandpaGod classical depiction of God.]]
* Confirmed. Michael signs a contract tricking him into running the Good Place and he eventually rises to the occasion.




[[WMG: There is no real Good Place.]]
* Or at least it's not an eternal reward for good behavior the way we've been led to believe. It would be far more in line with the show's themes thus far if it was revealed that there is no point at which you've "won" at being a good person, that being good is an active choice you have to keep making, and that goodness is something you should do simply because it's right, not because you'll be rewarded for it. Additionally, after almost 3 seasons it's starting to get conspicuous that the only evidence we have of the Good Place's existence is the word of Michael and the Judge and the fact that Janet exists, all of which could easily be misdirects. Shawn's certainty that everyone the Soul Squad tries to help will go to the Bad Place anyways is also a strong hint that ''no one'' gets into the Good Place, which could be because it doesn't exist.
** The later episodes seem to make it very clear that there is a Good Place, since there's an administrative center for it populated by ridiculously good employees.
** Team Cockroach eventually earn their places in the Real Good Place.



[[WMG: Season 4 will happen in The Real Good Place]]
* It will feature Team Cockroach trying to escape paradise because humans are fickle, and even a real heaven will become boring to them since it lacks the challenge, and therefore purpose, that 'The Good Place' gave them. Leading them to discover either that GoodIsNotNice. They'll try to return to the original Good Bad Place. This would tie back to Michael's Season 1 comment about Frozen Yogurt "It's very human to take something good, and ruin it just a little bit, so you can have more of it."



[[WMG:Glenn will defect to Michael's and the humans side]]
Think about it. Glenn is the butt of verbal abuse from Shawn, and not in the "fun" demon kind of way,and if you watched The Selection, he was the only demon who had reservations about using underhanded tactics to get the experiment to fail.
* Possibly confirmed in "Tinker Tailor Demon Spy", although there's still some chance that his defection was a trick.



[[WMG: Michael will become the new head of the Good Place.]]
* It's been proven that the Good Place members are completely and utterly [[GoodIsImpotent incompetent]] and [[StupidGood indecisive]] to do anything constructive on humanity's behalf. Meanwhile, Michael, the AscendedDemon, knows when to lie and cheat when needs to, and because he's come to [[HumanityIsInfectious appreciate humans]], he can use those tricks towards a good cause. He'll essentially replace Judge Gen as the equivalent of {{God}} of the CelestialBureaucracy. Fittingly, since his human form can be considered to be a modern take on the [[GrandpaGod classical depiction of God.]]
** I was kind of right.

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[[WMG: Michael will become the new head of the Good Place.]]
* It's been proven that the Good Place members are completely and utterly [[GoodIsImpotent incompetent]] and [[StupidGood indecisive]] to do anything constructive on humanity's behalf. Meanwhile, Michael, the AscendedDemon, knows when to lie and cheat when needs to, and because he's come to [[HumanityIsInfectious appreciate humans]], he can use those tricks towards a good cause. He'll essentially replace Judge Gen as the equivalent of {{God}} of the CelestialBureaucracy. Fittingly, since his human form can be considered to be a modern take on the [[GrandpaGod classical depiction of God.]]
** I was kind of right.



[[WMG: There is no real Good Place.]]
* Or at least it's not an eternal reward for good behavior the way we've been led to believe. It would be far more in line with the show's themes thus far if it was revealed that there is no point at which you've "won" at being a good person, that being good is an active choice you have to keep making, and that goodness is something you should do simply because it's right, not because you'll be rewarded for it. Additionally, after almost 3 seasons it's starting to get conspicuous that the only evidence we have of the Good Place's existence is the word of Michael and the Judge and the fact that Janet exists, all of which could easily be misdirects. Shawn's certainty that everyone the Soul Squad tries to help will go to the Bad Place anyways is also a strong hint that ''no one'' gets into the Good Place, which could be because it doesn't exist.
** The later episodes seem to make it very clear that there is a Good Place, since there's an administrative center for it populated by ridiculously good employees.

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[[WMG: The Good Place will be Not So Good for modern souls]]
* The fact no soul has entered the Good Place for 512 years means it will be lacking luxuries that modern day souls would have on Earth. Team Cockroach may even comment that Michael's version of the Good Place was actually better than the actual Good Place.
** Considering that you can wish for whatever you want in the Good Place, this is definitely Jossed!



[[WMG: The Good Place will be Not So Good for modern souls]]
* The fact no soul has entered the Good Place for 512 years means it will be lacking luxuries that modern day souls would have on Earth. Team Cockroach may even comment that Michael's version of the Good Place was actually better than the actual Good Place.
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** I was kind of right.
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* The fact no soul has entered the Good Place for 512 years means it will be lacking luxuries that modern day souls would have on Earth. The soul squad may even comment that Michael's version of the Good Place was actually better than the actual Good Place.

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* The fact no soul has entered the Good Place for 512 years means it will be lacking luxuries that modern day souls would have on Earth. The soul squad Team Cockroach may even comment that Michael's version of the Good Place was actually better than the actual Good Place.
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[[WMG: The Good Place will be Not So Good for modern souls]]
*The fact no soul has entered the Good Place for 512 years means it will be lacking luxuries that modern day souls would have on Earth. The soul squad may even comment that Michael's version of the Good Place was actually better than the actual Good Place.
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[[WMG: Michael will become the new head of the Good Place.]]
* It's been proven that the Good Place members are completely and utterly [[GoodIsImpotent incompetent]] and [[StupidGood indecisive]] to do anything constructive on humanity's behalf. Meanwhile, Michael, the AscendedDemon, knows when to lie and cheat when needs to, and because he's come to [[HumanityIsInfectious appreciate humans]], he can use those tricks towards a good cause. He'll essentially replace Judge Gen as the equivalent of {{God}} of the CelestialBureaucracy. Fittingly, since his human form can be considered to be a modern take on the [[GrandpaGod classical depiction of God.]]

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[[WMG:Gen’s Earth redo thingy is actually in Derek’s void]]
*Think about it. Gen doesn’t know about Derek and Good Janet could’ve easily decided to hand it over to Derek after the shuffle ended.
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** Basically confirmed in [[spoiler: "Help Is Other People", when Chidi guesses they're in the Bad Place, and Michael and Eleanor, in a last ditch effort to get Brent to change, pretend he's right (acting exactly as Michael did when Eleanor figured it out at the end of Season 1)]]
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[[WMG: Gen is secretly having the accountant keep track of not just the test subjects' points, but also Tahani's, Jason's, Michael's and Janet's.]]
* Gen has already affirmed that Eleanor can change, now she wants to see if that's changed for the rest of the Soul Squad.

[[WMG: Shawn and the other Bad Place demons will have their minds wiped and be placed in the neighborhood.]]
* They want to see if Michael is an anomaly so they'll test if other demons can change under these circumstances.

[[WMG: The experiment will repeat billions of times.]]
* The Soul Squad are the only people proven to cause change in humans, they'll have to repeat the process for everyone who's ever died.

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[[WMG: Matt from Weird Sex Things is rigging the experiment to go well]]
* Matt has incentive to have the experiment to be successful so that he won't have to continue the job that literally makes him want to commit suicide. Therefore, it's likely that he's been giving the test subjects more points than they deserve so that he can do this job for eternity instead. The Soul Squad will discover this and have to decide whether to confess to the Judge that, if the scores had been calculated correctly, the experiment would have been a failure--and thus condemn humanity forever to the Bad Place.


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[[WMG: Matt from Weird Sex Things is rigging the experiment to go well]]
* Matt has incentive to have the experiment to be successful so that he won't have to continue the job that literally makes him want to commit suicide. Therefore, it's likely that he's been giving the test subjects more points than they deserve so that he can do this job for eternity instead. The Soul Squad will discover this and have to decide whether to confess to the Judge that, if the scores had been calculated correctly, the experiment would have been a failure--and thus condemn humanity forever to the Bad Place.





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[[WMG: Matt from Weird Sex Things is rigging the experiment to go well]]
* Matt has incentive to have the experiment to be successful so that he won't have to continue the job that literally makes him want to commit suicide. Therefore, it's likely that he's been giving the test subjects more points than they deserve so that he can do this job for eternity instead. The Soul Squad will discover this and have to decide whether to confess to the Judge that, if the scores had been calculated correctly, the experiment would have been a failure--and thus condemn humanity forever to the Bad Place.
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[[WMG: Matt from Weird Sex Things is rigging the experiment to go well]]
* Matt has incentive to have the experiment to be successful so that he won't have to continue the job that literally makes him want to commit suicide. Therefore, it's likely that he's been giving the test subjects more points than they deserve so that he can do this job for eternity instead. The Soul Squad will discover this and have to decide whether to confess to the Judge that, if the scores had been calculated correctly, the experiment would have been a failure--and thus condemn humanity forever to the Bad Place.

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[[WMG: Jason is a furry]]
*He probably is not a part of the [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Furry Fandom]] or anything. But he does cite and his first kiss being with "The sexy mouse robot in the Chuck E. Cheese band" and that Tahani is "so pretty, like Nala from The Lion King."

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[[WMG: Janet will become "God" and Derek will become "Satan".]]
Each time Janet is killed she comes back stronger than before. She has the ability to create anything from nothing, even creating the current "Good Place", as well as the people in the Good Place with the help of Derek. Overtime this will lead her to becoming "God" of her own version of the Good Place where Team Cockroach and their friends will remain. Meanwhile, Derek will become the equivalent of "Satan". He was created by Janet but was rejected by her later on. He wants to get back with his mommy-girlfriend and will do anything, even sabotage her new version of "Eden" (the Good Place she created). Ostensibly, each time he is killed he will come back stronger also. His jealousy will lead him to be the renegade "angel" to Janet's "God".

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* Possibly confirmed in "Tinker Tailor Demon Spy", although there's still some chance that his defection was a trick.

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[[WMG: Bad Janet has replaced Good Janet]]
[[spoiler:When the Bad Place sent Chris in as a mole, they knew or wanted him to get caught]] so the Bad Place could send a train. When Good Janet went to remove the trespasser, she was replaced by a Bad Janet, who, like Good Janet, was rebooted multiple times to make her advanced enough to be capable of acting like Good Janet without melting down.
* Confirmed in "Tinker Tailor Demon Spy".



[[WMG: Bad Janet has replaced Good Janet]]
[[spoiler:When the Bad Place sent Chris in as a mole, they knew or wanted him to get caught]] so the Bad Place could send a train. When Good Janet went to remove the trespasser, she was replaced by a Bad Janet, who, like Good Janet, was rebooted multiple times to make her advanced enough to be capable of acting like Good Janet without melting down.

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[[WMG: Bad Janet has replaced Good Janet]]
[[spoiler:When the Bad Place sent Chris in as a mole, they knew or wanted him to get caught]] so the Bad Place could send a train. When Good Janet went to remove the trespasser, she was replaced by a Bad Janet, who, like Good Janet, was rebooted multiple times to make her advanced enough to be capable of acting like Good Janet without melting down.
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Think about it. Glenn is the butt of verbal abuse . from Shawn, and not in the "fun" demon kind of way,and if you watched The Selection, he was the only demon who had reservations about using underhanded tactics to get the experiment to fail.

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Think about it. Glenn is the butt of verbal abuse . abuse from Shawn, and not in the "fun" demon kind of way,and if you watched The Selection, he was the only demon who had reservations about using underhanded tactics to get the experiment to fail.



[[WMG: Simone will go through all of the FiveStagesOfGrief throughout the final season.]]
At the end of Season 3, Simone believes that she isn't actually in {{Heaven}} and that she is actually just suffering from a classic "light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel/near-death experience" scenario, being a neuro-scientist (and possibly an atheist) as the reason. While at first this seems like a joke, the first two episodes of Season 4 has her walking around, repeatedly ignoring conduct and acting out of line under the continued delusion that everything she is experiencing is her suffering from a coma-based brain-damage dream.

This, my friends, fits perfectly within the first stage of the FiveStagesOfGrief (usually when confronting death); [[JustIgnoreIt Denial]].

While Chidi seems to be helping her death with this denial ForHappiness, it is likely that it will slowly dawn on her that she really ''is'' dead, the steps taken to process it being the other four stages (Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance).



[[WMG: Simone will go through all of the FiveStagesOfGrief throughout the final season.]]
At the end of Season 3, Simone believes that she isn't actually in {{Heaven}} and that she is actually just suffering from a classic "light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel/near-death experience" scenario, being a neuro-scientist (and possibly an atheist) as the reason. While at first this seems like a joke, the first two episodes of Season 4 has her walking around, repeatedly ignoring conduct and acting out of line under the continued delusion that everything she is experiencing is her suffering from a coma-based brain-damage dream.

This, my friends, fits perfectly within the first stage of the FiveStagesOfGrief (usually when confronting death); [[JustIgnoreIt Denial]].

While Chidi seems to be helping her death with this denial ForHappiness, it is likely that it will slowly dawn on her that she really ''is'' dead, the steps taken to process it being the other four stages (Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance).
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[[WMG: Simone will go through all of the FiveStagesOfGrief throughout the final season.]]
At the end of Season 3, Simone believes that she isn't actually in {{Heaven}} and that she is actually just suffering from a classic "light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel/near-death experience" scenario, being a neuro-scientist (and possibly an atheist) as the reason. While at first this seems like a joke, the first two episodes of Season 4 has her walking around, repeatedly ignoring conduct and acting out of line under the continued delusion that everything she is experiencing is her suffering from a coma-based brain-damage dream.

This, my friends, fits perfectly within the first stage of the FiveStagesOfGrief (usually when confronting death); [[JustIgnoreIt Denial]].

While Chidi seems to be helping her death with this denial ForHappiness, it is likely that it will slowly dawn on her that she really ''is'' dead, the steps taken to process it being the other four stages (Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance).

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