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But.....it will create ForWantOfANail scenario where:

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But.....it will create ForWantOfANail for-want-of-a-nail scenario where:



* Certain characters may have different personalities, such as Hartley, due to the lack of Eobard's influence and ForWantOfANail logic.

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* Certain characters may have different personalities, such as Hartley, due to the lack of Eobard's influence and ForWantOfANail for-want-of-a-nail logic.



Ostensibly, the only difference between the pre-Flashpoint timeline and the post-Flashpoint timeline is that Nora Allen died a minute or two later, which wouldn't seem to account for some of the more drastic changes, even considering ForWantOfANail (Julian's sudden presence in the crime lab being just one example of something that should have no causal link to Nora's death.) However, if Savitar was also messing with the timeline, it would explain why things are so different. And given TheReveal about Julian in "Killer Frost", it would make sense that Savitar would want to insert him into Barry's life.

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Ostensibly, the only difference between the pre-Flashpoint timeline and the post-Flashpoint timeline is that Nora Allen died a minute or two later, which wouldn't seem to account for some of the more drastic changes, even considering ForWantOfANail for-want-of-a-nail (Julian's sudden presence in the crime lab being just one example of something that should have no causal link to Nora's death.) However, if Savitar was also messing with the timeline, it would explain why things are so different. And given TheReveal about Julian in "Killer Frost", it would make sense that Savitar would want to insert him into Barry's life.
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** [[spoiler: The season 3 episode "Untouchable" seems to [[JustForPun touch]] on this idea, when Cisco is able to vibe himself into the Flashpoint timeline, which shouldn't exist anymore]]

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** [[spoiler: The season 3 episode "Untouchable" seems to [[JustForPun touch]] touch on this idea, when Cisco is able to vibe himself into the Flashpoint timeline, which shouldn't exist anymore]]



* We know that Clifford is slowly dying as his body is giving out while trying to supply enough energy to his brain. Perhaps his endgame is to [[GrandTheftMe transfer his consciousness]] into The Flash, so he finally has a body that can supply enough energy to keep up with his vast intellect...or something stupid like that. Grant Gustin already said that things will take a dark turn in the middle of the year. Body snatching is obviously a ''very'' dark theme in fiction. And while the theory I'm proposing here seems to be a very common theory among fans following the episode "Therefore I Am", this may actually end up happening a lot sooner than we might [[JustForPun think]]. Maybe the midseason finale will even [[{{Cliffhanger}} end]] with [=DeVoe=] having successfully seized Barry's body, with no one else the wiser (yet). Thus, the back half of season 4 will be exploring this, complete with a new and much creepier OpeningNarration. I'm probably getting too far ahead here, but he may even create a time remnant to be the "regular" Barry while he continues his plans as The Thinker in his home with Marlize. As I said earlier, I thought of this theory myself, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qU9DBxRkc others have come up with it as well]].

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* We know that Clifford is slowly dying as his body is giving out while trying to supply enough energy to his brain. Perhaps his endgame is to [[GrandTheftMe transfer his consciousness]] into The Flash, so he finally has a body that can supply enough energy to keep up with his vast intellect...or something stupid like that. Grant Gustin already said that things will take a dark turn in the middle of the year. Body snatching is obviously a ''very'' dark theme in fiction. And while the theory I'm proposing here seems to be a very common theory among fans following the episode "Therefore I Am", this may actually end up happening a lot sooner than we might [[JustForPun think]].think. Maybe the midseason finale will even [[{{Cliffhanger}} end]] with [=DeVoe=] having successfully seized Barry's body, with no one else the wiser (yet). Thus, the back half of season 4 will be exploring this, complete with a new and much creepier OpeningNarration. I'm probably getting too far ahead here, but he may even create a time remnant to be the "regular" Barry while he continues his plans as The Thinker in his home with Marlize. As I said earlier, I thought of this theory myself, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qU9DBxRkc others have come up with it as well]].
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Either the final episode or a special episode will air on [[MeaningfulReleaseDate April 25, 2024]]. The date that the original newspaper detailing The Flash's disappearance in the [[Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Crisis.]] If it's the final episode, it'll be after Barry has vanished, having gone back in time to save himself from Thawne. With it being the final shot of the episode and series.

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Either the final episode or a special episode will air on [[MeaningfulReleaseDate April 25, 2024]]. The date that the original newspaper detailing The Flash's disappearance in the [[Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths [[Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 Crisis.]] If it's the final episode, it'll be after Barry has vanished, having gone back in time to save himself from Thawne. With it being the final shot of the episode and series.
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It did happen with Kate's sister in ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' after all.
* Beth came from an different earth. Her history wasn't rewritten unlike Non Paragons Characters throughout the franchise.

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It did happen with Kate's sister in ''Series/{{Batwoman}}'' ''Series/{{Batwoman|2019}}'' after all.
* Beth came from an a different earth. Her history wasn't rewritten unlike Non Paragons Characters throughout the franchise.
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*** Possibly confirmed for Earth2! Barry, as he has Hal's number on speed dial.

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*** Possibly confirmed for Earth2! Earth 2 Barry, as he has Hal's number on speed dial.
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[[WMG: Barry will spend an episode or two as a member of the [[Franchise/GreenLantern Blue Lantern Corps]] fighting alongside the Green Lantern Corps.]]

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[[WMG: Barry will spend an episode or two as a member of the [[Franchise/GreenLantern [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Blue Lantern Corps]] fighting alongside the Green Lantern Corps.]]



[[WMG: [[Franchise/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] (pre-powered?) will show up and become good friends with Barry]]

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[[WMG: [[Franchise/GreenLantern [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] (pre-powered?) will show up and become good friends with Barry]]



And possibly along with Thea and maybe Sin from Arrow. Forming a semi-''Franchise/TeenTitans'' episode. They will both learn to see eye to eye and work together much like their mentors.


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And possibly along with Thea and maybe Sin from Arrow. Forming a semi-''Franchise/TeenTitans'' semi-''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' episode. They will both learn to see eye to eye and work together much like their mentors.




[[WMG: The show will eventually delve into the identity politics of metahumans in a similar vein as the mutants of the ''Franchise/XMen'' universe or the ''[[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]]'' (or superpowered people in general) of the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'']]

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[[WMG: The show will eventually delve into the identity politics of metahumans in a similar vein as the mutants of the ''Franchise/XMen'' ''ComicBook/XMen'' universe or the ''[[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]]'' (or superpowered people in general) of the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'']]



* He's a rather different man. [[DeathByOriginStory His parents were killed by a mugger when he was young]], and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} he's always had this weird connection to bats...]]

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* He's a rather different man. [[DeathByOriginStory His parents were killed by a mugger when he was young]], and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} he's always had this weird connection to bats...]]
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* Jossed: Eric Wallace revealed in an interview that Ralph would appear in at least one episode (Mother) portrayed by a new actor, in order to wrap up Sue's story. Then he'll cast an new permeant actor in the role down the road when the storyline allows for Ralph's return.

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* Jossed: Eric Wallace revealed in an interview that Ralph would appear in at least one episode (Mother) portrayed by a new actor, in order to wrap up Sue's story. Then he'll cast an new permeant actor in the role down the road when the storyline allows for Ralph's return.\n




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** Jossed, though the last words are a bookend to the first episode of the Flash--"believe in the impossible."
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** Jossed as a whole. Barry ''does'' go back in time to the night his mom died, but in the first episode of the final arc, and was forced there as part the Negative Speed Force's plot against the Flash Family.

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** Jossed, sorry


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[[WMG: Oliver could have used his powers against the mooks in 9x06]]
He just missed the rush of combat and wanted to beat them up the old-fashioned way for fun. Also, of course, it wouldn't be an Arrow episode without that.

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** Confirmed!



*** However, Jessie Quick appears as Harry's daughter, and Haryy creates "Velocity-6", so maybe he's Johnny Quick?

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*** However, Jessie Jesse Quick appears as Harry's daughter, and Haryy Harry creates "Velocity-6", so maybe he's Johnny Quick?


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[[WMG: The last words of the last episode will be, "Run, Barry. Run!"]]
* As a nice capstone/bookends thingy.
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* Oliver is more of an adventurer, TheCape right from the very beginning, who fights crime because it's more thrilling and purposeful than being a RichIdiotWithNoDayJob or running his company. Pretty much what Green Arrow was like in the comics during the Golden Age and Silver Age.

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* Oliver is more of an adventurer, TheCape right from the very beginning, who fights crime because it's more thrilling and purposeful than being a RichIdiotWithNoDayJob IdleRich or running his company. Pretty much what Green Arrow was like in the comics during the Golden Age and Silver Age.

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** Nekron is never directly mentioned, but it's still entirely possible that he's behind Deathstorm.


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** At least partially jossed. Season 9 will be the last. Whether Barry will vanish and go back in time, we'll have to see.
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** The SeasonFinale seems to be building toward this, as previews indicate that Barry will attempt to go into the past to save his mother. This could easily lead to Season 2 being a [[Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} Flashpoint]] adaptation, with Barry attempting to fix the timeline after he messed it up by saving his mom.

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** The SeasonFinale seems to be building toward this, as previews indicate that Barry will attempt to go into the past to save his mother. This could easily lead to Season 2 being a [[Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} Flashpoint]] Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} adaptation, with Barry attempting to fix the timeline after he messed it up by saving his mom.



** Caitlin of Earth-1 becomes Killer Frost due to FLashpoint in season 3, and rebrands herself as just Frost in season 6 because she's not a killer. So confirmed.

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** Caitlin of Earth-1 becomes Killer Frost due to FLashpoint Flashpoint in season 3, and rebrands herself as just Frost in season 6 because she's not a killer. So confirmed.



[[WMG: Wells is Barry from a pre-flashpoint type timeline and found himself in the past]]

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[[WMG: Wells is Barry from a pre-flashpoint pre-Flashpoint type timeline and found himself in the past]]



* To add to this, the final battle between Barry and Zoom!Jay could take them to Earth-3, where Barry will get [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E23FastEnough arrested]] [[Main/MistakenIdentity as]] [[Main/EvilCounterpart Johnny Quick]] by [[Main/GoodCounterpart Officers Snart and Rory]]. On his way home, he will take a [[Recap/Supergirl2015S1E18WorldsFinest detour through National City]].

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* To add to this, the final battle between Barry and Zoom!Jay could take them to Earth-3, where Barry will get [[Recap/TheFlash2014S1E23FastEnough arrested]] [[Main/MistakenIdentity [[MistakenIdentity as]] [[Main/EvilCounterpart [[EvilCounterpart Johnny Quick]] by [[Main/GoodCounterpart [[GoodCounterpart Officers Snart and Rory]]. On his way home, he will take a [[Recap/Supergirl2015S1E18WorldsFinest detour through National City]].
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[[WMG: The show will last for 10 seasons. With the 10th being the last.]]
Either the final episode or a special episode will air on [[MeaningfulReleaseDate April 25, 2024]]. The date that the original newspaper detailing The Flash's disappearance in the [[Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Crisis.]] If it's the final episode, it'll be after Barry has vanished, having gone back in time to save himself from Thawne. With it being the final shot of the episode and series.
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** "Resurrection" reveals that the Black Flame is indeed Deathstorm, though Allegra mentions "Blackest Night" by name, still leaving open the possibility for Nekron to be the ''real'' BigBad responsible for the existence of Deathstorm in the first place.

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**[[spoiler: Jossed, sorry. It really is a case of TrappedByMountainLions.]]


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[[WMG: Iris' time sickness is why she could remember Barry in Reverse-Flashpoint]]
* Her situation, with time bending around her, is why she was able to remember another timeline with a little prompting.
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[[WMG: The identity of the mysterious "Black Fire" villain]]
* The most common theories are that it's Cobalt Blue (Malcolm Thawne, Eobard's ancestor in the comics, which would correspond with Eddie Thawne here) or Deathstorm (not Robbie Raymond's Earth-2 counterpart but rather an ''undead'' version of him). I think the latter theory holds more weight as it's tied to ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', so my ''other'' theory of who this mysterious EmotionEater EldritchAbomination is would be the BigBad of that story...Nekron.
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[[WMG:...But there will be a {{Multiverse}} episode or story arc down the line]]

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[[WMG:...But there will be a {{Multiverse}} [[TheMultiverse Multiverse]] episode or story arc down the line]]



** Creator/GeoffJohns mentioned a possibility of a {{Multiverse}} to describe the TV shows and the films so it's likely that by the time the show renewed for a 4th or 5th season, the DCCU Justice League film and The Flash 2018 film will be out. By then, Gustin!Flash and DCCU!Flash will meet and either one of them would say (as quoted from the comicbook), "So you see, I became the super-fast Flash on my Earth much as you became The Flash on yours!" And there's plenty of time before 2024 Crisis. As theory below says, the sky's the limit!

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** Creator/GeoffJohns mentioned a possibility of a {{Multiverse}} [[TheMultiverse Multiverse]] to describe the TV shows and the films so it's likely that by the time the show renewed for a 4th or 5th season, the DCCU Justice League film and The Flash 2018 film will be out. By then, Gustin!Flash and DCCU!Flash will meet and either one of them would say (as quoted from the comicbook), "So you see, I became the super-fast Flash on my Earth much as you became The Flash on yours!" And there's plenty of time before 2024 Crisis. As theory below says, the sky's the limit!
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* Confirmed.
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\n[[folder: Season 8 Theories]]

[[WMG: Everything bad that happened so far is because of Eobard Thawne]]

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In addition to the word "Crisis" being used and the mention that the Flash disappears during the event, [[spoiler: in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'', a red crack appears in the sky as a sign of the Anti-Monitor's arrival.]]

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In addition to the word "Crisis" being used and the mention that the Flash disappears during the event, [[spoiler: in ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'', ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013'', a red crack appears in the sky as a sign of the Anti-Monitor's arrival.]]
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[[WMG: Adam Creyke is Godspeed]]

There has to be ''some'' reason for the audiences to really care about the subplot between Joe and Kristen Kramer, and I feel like the only way is if it turns out to be tied in to the main conflict with Godspeed; otherwise, it feels like a case of TrappedByMountainLions.
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** Cisco and Kamilla represent Iris' desire to live in peace with Barry and any future kids, knowing they could only do so if Barry gave up heroing and they left the perpetually-imperiled Central City; she'd never suggest it, but a part of her still wants that because she knows it's the only chance they'd have for a safe life together. Frost is related to this surpressed desire for normalcy, as she's the most blatantly meta part of their team, and the anti-meta crusade are the result of Iris' guilt: She has meta friends and family that she loves, so this hidden feeling of "If there weren't any metas, we would be safer/happier" feels like betraying them. You could say that other aspects of the season are this as well, ex. Actual Welles having amazing time power sbut only using them to go home to his wife and live happily with her. Chester bonding with his father could be another form of Iris' desire for a safe, happy family life, representing the difficulties in her relationship with future-Nora or the way that she wants their future children to be abele to bond with Barry: Chester thought his father didn't care about him but his father actually loved him deeply, was working for his benefit and died before Chester could learn otherwise, which parallels future-Nora's relationship with her DisappearedDad and the resulting fractious relationship with future-Iris.

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** Cisco and Kamilla represent Iris' desire to live in peace with Barry and any future kids, knowing they could only do so if Barry gave up heroing and they left the perpetually-imperiled Central City; she'd never suggest it, but a part of her still wants that because she knows it's the only chance they'd have for a safe life together. Frost is related to this surpressed desire for normalcy, as she's the most blatantly meta part of their team, and the anti-meta crusade are is the result of Iris' guilt: She has meta friends and family that she loves, so this hidden feeling of "If there weren't any metas, we would we'd be safer/happier" feels like betraying them. You could say that other aspects of the season are this as well, ex. Actual Welles having amazing time power sbut powers but only using them to go home to his wife and live happily with her. Chester bonding with his father could be another form of Iris' desire for a safe, happy family life, another, representing the difficulties in her relationship with future-Nora or the way that she wants their future children to be abele able to bond with Barry: Chester thought his father didn't care about him but his father actually loved him deeply, was working for his benefit and died before Chester could learn otherwise, which parallels future-Nora's relationship with her DisappearedDad and the resulting fractious relationship with future-Iris.
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** Cisco and Kamilla represent Iris' desire to live in peace with Barry and any future kids, knowing they could only do so if Barry gave up heroing and they left the perpetually-imperiled Central City; she'd never suggest it, but a part of her still wants that because she knows it's the only chance they'd have for a safe life together. Frost is related to this surpressed desire for normalcy, as she's the most blatantly meta part of their team, and the anti-meta crusade are the result of Iris' guilt: She has meta friends and family that she loves, so this hidden feeling of "If there weren't any metas, we would be safer/happier" feels like betraying them. You could say that other aspects of the season are this as well, ex. Actual Welles having amazing time power sbut only using them to go home to his wife and live happily with her. Chester bonding with his father could be another form of Iris' desire for a safe, happy family life, representing the difficulties in her relationship with future-Nora or the way that she wants their future children to be abele to bond with Barry: Chester thought his father didn't care about him but his father actually loved him deeply, was working for his benefit and died before Chester could learn otherwise, which parallels future-Nora's relationship with her DisappearedDad and the resulting fractious relationship with future-Iris.
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* Why would Iris' "dream" include Frost having to go to jail, Chester getting to bond with his father, and Cisco and Kamilla wanting to leave Central City to live in peace?
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