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*** The 1960s family is likely Democrat. The ones from the 1990s and the Netflix spinoff are a whole 'nother animal.



[[WMG: The Addams are distant relations to [[Series/TheMunsters the family on 1313 Mockingbird Lane.]]

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*** None of them work. That's not because Morticia's a woman, it's just because they're rich as fuck. When they're short on money (in the first film) or Morticia believes them to be (in one episode of the TV show) she does try to get a job, so clearly they're not opposed to ''women'' specifically working. As for Cousin Itt...while male flight attendants existed at the time, they were overwhelmingly women (and hired based on appearance, with many airlines refusing to hire anyone above a certain age or anyone of the wrong height or weight, etc) and men did often get their applications rejected because it was seen as a woman's job--so Cousin Itt probably genuinely wouldn't stand much chance of becoming a flight attendant in the 60s. I'd disagree with the "it's not unfair, it's just the way things are" part of the statement, but...it was the 60s, and someone very progressive for the time might still have some views that don't seem progressive today, and the show does have its flaws and FairForItsDay moments. ''Where'' is the evidence that the 60s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" ''by 60s standards'' or that the 90s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" by 90s standards, etc.? (And again, while Gomez mentions various relatives of his supporting various politicians, the only one he mentions in a way that strongly suggests he also supported him was Adlai Stevenson--also, they only keep campaign posters for candidates they supported who ''lost'', and they have no posters for 1960 or 1964, suggesting they voted Democrat in these elections since the Democrats won.) ''Addams Family Values'' was even confirmed by WordOfGod to be intended to make fun of and criticize Republicans--represented by the white, blonde people at the summer camp, aka enemies of the Addamses, while Wednesday sides with the marginalized (disabled, Jewish, Black, Asian, Latina, etc) kids and is pretty strongly critical of the idea of celebrating Thanksgiving and the settlers' treatment of the Native Americans.



It belonged to Judge Womack. They stole it and buried it as revenge for the judge kicking them out of their house in the first film.

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It belonged to Judge Womack. They stole it and buried it as revenge for the judge kicking them out of their house in the first film.film.

[[WMG: The Addams are distant relations to [[Series/TheMunsters the family on 1313 Mockingbird Lane.]]

Come on, one are vaguely supernatural weirdos and the other are outright supernatural weirdos and they share a love for all things dead or dark.
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[[WMG: Morticia is [[Film/DraculasDaughter Marya Zaleska]].]]
She resurrected from her apparently death in her movie, and later she met Gomez and get Her happy ending. Her father returned again, and again many times from a wood stake and many other things. They also resembles each other strangely.
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* Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.

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* Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.Joel.

[[WMG: The cat they bury alive in the second film did not belong to them.]]
It belonged to Judge Womack. They stole it and buried it as revenge for the judge kicking them out of their house in the first film.

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships. These couplings are only sometimes productive which would explain why some members of the family have the 'Innsmouth Look' (greyish-white skin, rounded, protruding eyes, and alopecia) while others do not.

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships. These couplings are only sometimes productive which would explain why some members of the family have the 'Innsmouth Look' (greyish-white skin, rounded, protruding eyes, and full or partial alopecia) while others do not.

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* The vault, or at least the caverns beneath the house, is presumably directly connected to the town of Innsmouth by some supernatural/metaphysical means which would enable easy travel between the two locations.

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* Though it is worth noting that the Addams seem to be a more benign example of this phenomenon than their Hungarian counterparts. (Not harmless by any means, just LESS aggressive.)

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* The lessening in the severity of the SCP-3288 typical physical characteristics may be the result of a fairly recent decision by the clan to stop inbreeding or at least not inbreed as much and begin spreading their seed, 'strengthened' by centuries of inbreeding, over the world.
* "We will all be aristocrats in the end"= "We will all be Addams in the end."

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships. These couplings are only sometimes productive which would explain why some members of the family (like Fester) have the Innsmouth Look while others do not.

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships. These couplings are only sometimes productive which would explain why some members of the family (like Fester) have the Innsmouth Look 'Innsmouth Look' (greyish-white skin, rounded, protruding eyes, and alopecia) while others do not.






* Or they are a similar type of creature (the products of an aristocratic family's attempts to prolong its longevity through a mix of black magic, mad science, and inbreeding) but with its roots in a Hispanic country instead of Hungary.

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* Or they are a similar type of creature (the products of an aristocratic family's attempts to prolong secure the future of its longevity bloodline through a mix of black magic, mad science, and inbreeding) but with its roots in a Hispanic country instead of Hungary.



That's what caused his amnesia and caused his hair to start growing again. The lightning strike in the movie reversed the process.

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That's *That's what caused his amnesia and caused his hair to start growing again. The lightning strike in the movie reversed the process.

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships.

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* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships. These couplings are only sometimes productive which would explain why some members of the family (like Fester) have the Innsmouth Look while others do not.

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[[WMG: The Addams' obtained their wealth through a deal struck with Dagon.]]
*"The sea, your second home."
* If you go by the film "Dagon," Dagon resides off the shore of Spain and trades treasure from the ocean floor for opportunities to breed with human females. Much of what is seen in The Vault is this type of treasure.
* This Troper proposes that all female members of the Addams clan are required to take a trip out to the village from the film and couple with Dagon, in return, Dagon keeps the family supplied with doubloons and other valuables of the type that would be found in sunken pirate ships.




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[[WMG: Uncle Fester doesn't appear in Netflix's Wednesday because he died before the events of the series]]
* It explains why the creators said "no comment" and asked to keep it a secret when the show comes out. They want to hide the twist as to what happened to Fester.
* The other reason they didn't reveal where Fester was could be that they don't want to do one or two things: spoil his role and/or reveal who's playing him.
* Jossed as he does appear in one episode of Wednesday played by Fred Armisen

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[[WMG: Uncle Fester doesn't appear in Netflix's Wednesday because he died before the events The Addams' are SCP-3288s (https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3288) or at least distantly descended from them.]]

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When Debbie [[spoiler:strapped the family into electric chairs]], and asked them whether any of them really loved her, Gomez calls for a show of hands, and all the other family members try to raise their hands. Thirty seconds into Debbie's (unbelievably selfish) StartOfDarkness monologue, Grandmama seems totally on her side, and the entire family seems to sympathize with [[spoiler:the multiple murders she's committed for sheer greed]]. Debbie had a hint of the family in her, but was just [[TearJerker too selfish to see that she'd found a home and family that could love her for what she really was.]]

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When Debbie [[spoiler:strapped [[spoiler: strapped the family into electric chairs]], and asked them whether any of them really loved her, Gomez calls for a show of hands, and all the other family members try to raise their hands. Thirty seconds into Debbie's (unbelievably selfish) StartOfDarkness monologue, Grandmama seems totally on her side, and the entire family seems to sympathize with [[spoiler:the [[spoiler: the multiple murders she's committed for sheer greed]]. Debbie had a hint of the family in her, her but was just [[TearJerker too selfish to see that she'd found a home and family that could love her for what she really was.]]



* Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.

[[WMG: The Addams' are SCP-3288s (https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3288) or at least distantly descended from them.]]

* Many of the family members seen at the reunion in the first film have physical characteristics similar to those described in the wiki article for SCP-3288 though to a less severe extent than described in the article.

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* Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.

[[WMG: The Addams' are SCP-3288s (https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3288) or at least distantly descended from them.]]

* Many of the family members seen at the reunion in the first film have physical characteristics similar to those described in the wiki article for SCP-3288 though to a less severe extent than described in the article.
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** This supports this troper's personal belief that the Addams clan has survived and thrived as it has through the use of four key survival techniques: 1)Situation cannibalism 2)Situational incest 3)Monster F*cking 4)Marrying witches whenever possible

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** This supports this troper's personal belief that the Addams clan has survived and thrived as it has through the use of four key survival techniques: 1)Situation 1)Situational cannibalism 2)Situational incest 3)Monster F*cking 4)Marrying witches whenever possible

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* Not all Addams seem to have the same in-vulnerabilities (Fester and Pugsley can survive electrocution, Wednesday is immune to poisoning, etc.) which implies that these are passed down on recessive genes. This would explain the prevalence of congenital deformities within the clan, as in the past they likely would have inbred in an effort to preserve their special abilities. So it's possible that they only use forms of torture on one another that they know the other can easily survive. This would also explain Gomez and Morticia's concern over their other children wanting to "play" with the baby, since they wouldn't have known what Pubert's limitations were yet. It would ALSO explain why they usually don't show concern when one Addams hurts another Addams (treating it as a sort of game or joke) but do show concern when a member of the family is threatened by an outsider.
* This would also explain why Gomez is so protective of Morticia, since she's not an Addams by blood and is therefor more vulnerable to harm than the others.

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* Not all Addams seem to have the same in-vulnerabilities (Fester and Pugsley can survive electrocution, Wednesday is immune to poisoning, etc.) which implies that these are passed down on recessive genes. This would explain the prevalence of congenital deformities within the clan, as in the past they likely would have inbred in an effort to preserve their special abilities. So it's possible that they only use forms of torture on one another so that they know the other can easily survive. This would also explain Gomez and Morticia's concern over their other children wanting to "play" with the baby, baby since they wouldn't have known what Pubert's limitations were yet. It would ALSO explain why they usually don't show concern when one Addams hurts another Addams (treating it as a sort of game or joke) but do show concern when a member of the family is threatened by an outsider.
* This would also explain why Gomez is so protective of Morticia, Morticia since she's not an Addams by blood and is therefor therefore more vulnerable to harm than the others.



The Scottish banshee is a young woman whose red hair grows completely down to her feet, completely concealing her appearance. Change the colour to brown and you basically have Itt.

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The Scottish banshee is a young woman whose red hair grows completely down to her feet, completely concealing her appearance. Change the colour color to brown and you basically have Itt.



When it comes down to it, the differences between her and Debbie are mostly just aesthetic and she seems strangely empathetic to Debbie's plight, even her "post honeymoon malaise" which she claims is "very common." I'm just saying that it's entirely possible that the sinking of the cruise ship on which she and Gomez took their honeymoon wasn't a pure coincidence.

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When it comes down to it, the differences between her and Debbie are mostly just aesthetic and she seems strangely empathetic to Debbie's plight, even her "post honeymoon "post-honeymoon malaise" which she claims is "very common." I'm just saying that it's entirely possible that the sinking of the cruise ship on which she and Gomez took their honeymoon wasn't a pure coincidence.



* Even if there isn't a tradition of disposing of unwanted children via cannibalism in the Addams clan, their seems to be one in Morticia's family. Morticia alludes to eating children multiple times in both films (even expressing empathy for the witch in Hansel and Gretel) and Grandmama is shown in the kitchen reading Grey's Anatomy alongside The Joy of Cooking. Grandmama also laments the fact that they don't kill one of the older children when a new baby is born "anymore."

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* Even if there isn't a tradition of disposing of unwanted children via cannibalism in the Addams clan, their there seems to be one in Morticia's family. Morticia alludes to eating children multiple times in both films (even expressing empathy for the witch in Hansel and Gretel) and Grandmama is shown in the kitchen reading Grey's Anatomy alongside The Joy of Cooking. Grandmama also laments the fact that they don't kill one of the older children when a new baby is born "anymore."



* That or he just didn't want to come, opting instead to visit his paternal relatives at those times instead of the spooky step-family to whom he has no relation and who are constantly alluding to killing him. Margaret loved him very much, and was at least somewhat normal at one point. Makes perfect sense for her to have him be visiting Tully's parents or siblings or whatever if the extended Addams family makes him a bit uncomfortable.

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* That or he just didn't want to come, opting instead to visit his paternal relatives at those times instead of the spooky step-family to whom he has no relation and who are constantly alluding to killing him. Margaret loved him very much, much and was at least somewhat normal at one point. Makes perfect sense for her to have him be visiting Tully's parents or siblings or whatever if the extended Addams family makes him a bit uncomfortable.




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***However, Morticia's sister is suspiciously absent from the films.



Ie, it's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly, she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhampir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half-human, part vampire, and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stewpot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human."

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Ie, it's *It's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly, she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhampir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half-human, part vampire, and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stewpot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human."
**This supports this troper's personal belief that the Addams clan has survived and thrived as it has through the use of four key survival techniques: 1)Situation cannibalism 2)Situational incest 3)Monster F*cking 4)Marrying witches whenever possible



Seriously, look at him. He looks '''way''' more like Astin than Julia. Also, he frequently sports that charming toothy smile that was much more a trademark of Astin's Gomez then Julia's.

Perhaps the development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.

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Seriously, look at him. He looks '''way''' more like Astin than Julia. Also, he frequently sports that charming toothy smile that was much more a trademark of Astin's Gomez then than Julia's.

Perhaps *Perhaps the development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's devs at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.



They're a middle-class/working-class immigrant family that doesn't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.

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They're *They're a middle-class/working-class immigrant family that doesn't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.



Throughout all the movies and shows normal people who visit or interact with the Addemses are frequently put in deathly danger...but, unless they actively try to harm them, none of them ever actually dies; even Amanda in Family Values, whom Wednesday burnt at the stake is seen alive an unharmed later in the movies.

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Throughout *Throughout all the movies and shows normal people who visit or interact with the Addemses are frequently put in deathly danger...but, unless they actively try to harm them, none of them ever actually dies; even Amanda in Family Values, whom Wednesday burnt at the stake is seen alive an unharmed later in the movies.



Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.

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Imagine *Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.



Many of the family members seen at the reunion in the first film have physical characteristics similar to those described in the wiki article for SCP-3288 though to a less severe extent than described in the article.

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** Remember, Ophelia drops by several times in the series' "present day", with her sister and former fiance now the parents of school-age children, and seems to still be on amicable terms with them (judo-flipping Gomez around doesn't appear to be based on any actual hostility). This Ophelia did a lot better than her namesake.

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** Remember, Ophelia Ophelia, drops by several times in the series' series "present day", with her sister and former fiance now the parents of school-age children, and seems to still be on amicable terms with them (judo-flipping Gomez around doesn't appear to be based on any actual hostility). This Ophelia did a lot better than her namesake.



* The Addams's seemingly supernatural luck (which only seems present on the grounds of the estate) could also be accounted for by the presence of helpful spirits in different, specific areas of the house.

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* The Addams's Addams' seemingly supernatural luck (which only seems present on the grounds of the estate) could also be accounted for by the presence of helpful spirits in different, specific areas of the house.



It is likely that Thing was a human the same as Addams, but something happened and he had his entire body cut-off or blown up or whatever else. Since death and dismemberment for the Addams Family is all fun and games to them, Thing being reduced to nothing but a dismembered hand is treated as OnlyAFleshWound.

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It is likely that Thing was a human the same as Addams, but something happened and he had his entire body cut-off cut off or blown up or whatever else. Since death and dismemberment for the Addams Family is are all fun and games to them, Thing being reduced to nothing but a dismembered hand is treated as OnlyAFleshWound.



Ie, it's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhamphir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half human, part vampire and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stew pot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human."

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Ie, it's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly clearly, she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhamphir dhampir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half human, half-human, part vampire vampire, and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stew pot stewpot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human."



Perhaps development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.

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Perhaps the development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.



They're a middle class/working class immigrant family who don't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.

** {{Main/Jossed}}: in the 1960s TV show it's confirmed that Gomez voted for Adlai Stevenson, a Democrat, in both 1952 and 1956. In previous elections, previous Addamses voted for Democrats and Republicans at different times (and if you go back far enough in US history it wasn't as simple as "progressive Democrats, conservative Republicans" and there were some elections where the Republican candidate was viewed as ahead of the Democrat candidate on civil rights, so the fact that some previous Addamses voted Republican doesn't necessarily indicate they were all that conservative). The Addamses also don't generally express particularly conservative views, being ahead of the time on attitudes towards women, for instance, and not treating the baby's gender as particularly important in the films (only caring that "it's an Addams!"). Grandmama even voted before women were allowed to vote.
** Not quite that progressive. Tish is still a housewife who doesn't have to work, and Gomez was all but traumatized by her having an art career that took her focus away from caring for himself and the children. They also didn't believe Cousin Itt, being male (apparently) can't be a stewardess as he wanted to be. It's entirely possible to be a liberal republican (or a conservative democrat). Many in the elephant party don't have a problem with women voting or anything; that isn't what makes on a republican. It's also quite possible not all members are registered the same; for example, Grandpa Munster himself is a Republican but the rest of his family doesn't appear to be.
*** None of them work. That's not because Morticia's a woman, it's just because they're rich as fuck. When they're short on money (in the first film) or Morticia believes them to be (in one episode of the TV show) she does try to get a job, so clearly they're not opposed to ''women'' specifically working. As for Cousin Itt...while male flight attendants existed at the time, they were overwhelmingly women (and hired based on appearance, with many airlines refusing to hire anyone above a certain age or anyone of the wrong height or weight etc) and men did often get their applications rejected because it was seen as a woman's job--so Cousin Itt probably genuinely wouldn't stand much chance of becoming a flight attendant in the 60s. I'd disagree with the "it's not unfair, it's just the way things are" part of the statement, but...it was the 60s, someone very progressive for the time might still have some views that don't seem progressive today, and the show does have its flaws and FairForItsDay moments. ''Where'' is the evidence that the 60s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" ''by 60s standards'' or that the 90s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" by 90s standards, etc.? (And again, while Gomez mentions various relatives of his supporting various politicans, the only one he mentions in a way that strongly suggests he also supported him was Adlai Stevenson--also, they only keep campaign posters for candidates they supported who ''lost'', and they have no posters for 1960 or 1964, suggesting they voted Democrat in these elections since the Democrats won.) ''Addams Family Values'' was even confirmed by WordOfGod to be intended to make fun of and criticise Republicans--represented by the white, blonde people at the summer camp, aka enemies of the Addamses, while Wednesday sides with the marginalised (disabled, Jewish, Black, Asian, Latina, etc) kids and is pretty strongly critical of the idea of celebrating Thanksgiving and the settlers' treatment of the Native Americans.

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They're a middle class/working class middle-class/working-class immigrant family who don't that doesn't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.

** {{Main/Jossed}}: in the 1960s TV show show, it's confirmed that Gomez voted for Adlai Stevenson, a Democrat, in both 1952 and 1956. In previous elections, previous Addamses voted for Democrats and Republicans at different times (and if you go back far enough in US history it wasn't as simple as "progressive Democrats, conservative Republicans" and there were some elections where the Republican candidate was viewed as ahead of the Democrat candidate on civil rights, so the fact that some previous Addamses voted Republican doesn't necessarily indicate they were all that conservative). The Addamses also don't generally express particularly conservative views, being ahead of the time on attitudes towards women, for instance, and not treating the baby's gender as particularly important in the films (only caring that "it's an Addams!"). Grandmama even voted before women were allowed to vote.
** Not quite that progressive. Tish is still a housewife who doesn't have to work, and Gomez was all but traumatized by her having an art career that took her focus away from caring for himself and the children. They also didn't believe Cousin Itt, being male (apparently) can't be a stewardess as he wanted to be. It's entirely possible to be a liberal republican (or a conservative democrat). Many in the elephant party don't have a problem with women voting or anything; that isn't what makes on one a republican. It's also quite possible not all members are registered the same; for example, Grandpa Munster himself is a Republican but the rest of his family doesn't appear to be.
*** None of them work. That's not because Morticia's a woman, it's just because they're rich as fuck. When they're short on money (in the first film) or Morticia believes them to be (in one episode of the TV show) she does try to get a job, so clearly they're not opposed to ''women'' specifically working. As for Cousin Itt...while male flight attendants existed at the time, they were overwhelmingly women (and hired based on appearance, with many airlines refusing to hire anyone above a certain age or anyone of the wrong height or weight weight, etc) and men did often get their applications rejected because it was seen as a woman's job--so Cousin Itt probably genuinely wouldn't stand much chance of becoming a flight attendant in the 60s. I'd disagree with the "it's not unfair, it's just the way things are" part of the statement, but...it was the 60s, and someone very progressive for the time might still have some views that don't seem progressive today, and the show does have its flaws and FairForItsDay moments. ''Where'' is the evidence that the 60s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" ''by 60s standards'' or that the 90s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" by 90s standards, etc.? (And again, while Gomez mentions various relatives of his supporting various politicans, politicians, the only one he mentions in a way that strongly suggests he also supported him was Adlai Stevenson--also, they only keep campaign posters for candidates they supported who ''lost'', and they have no posters for 1960 or 1964, suggesting they voted Democrat in these elections since the Democrats won.) ''Addams Family Values'' was even confirmed by WordOfGod to be intended to make fun of and criticise criticize Republicans--represented by the white, blonde people at the summer camp, aka enemies of the Addamses, while Wednesday sides with the marginalised marginalized (disabled, Jewish, Black, Asian, Latina, etc) kids and is pretty strongly critical of the idea of celebrating Thanksgiving and the settlers' treatment of the Native Americans.



That's because, the exceptional luck that seems to be endemic to the Addams clan also extends to their guests and people they interact with. So if you were to visit their house Gomez might throw knives at you, but you'll always be able to jump out of the way at the last moment and Grandmama might fix you a stew with hemlock and deathly nightshade, but all you get is a tummy ache because she (accidently) also mixed the antidote into the stew, and at the end of the day all that will be hurt are your pride and vanity (and you might keep a few scars, be they physical or mental)

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That's because, because the exceptional luck that seems to be endemic to the Addams clan also extends to their guests and the people they interact with. So if you were to visit their house Gomez might throw knives at you, but you'll always be able to jump out of the way at the last moment and Grandmama might fix you a stew with hemlock and deathly nightshade, but all you get is a tummy ache because she (accidently) (accidentally) also mixed the antidote into the stew, and at the end of the day all that will be hurt are your pride and vanity (and you might keep a few scars, be they physical or mental)



Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances, or things he has since grown out of. That and the above mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long term a very appealing prospect for Joel.

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Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances, intolerances or things he has since grown out of. That and the above mentioned above-mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long term long-term a very appealing prospect for Joel.Joel.

[[WMG: The Addams' are SCP-3288s or at least distantly descended from them.]]
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3288
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* Jossed as he does appear in one episode of Wednesday played by George Armisen

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* Jossed as he does appear in one episode of Wednesday played by George Fred Armisen
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* Jossed as he does appear in one episode of Wednesday played by George Armisen
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** Remember, Ophelia drops by several times in the series' "present day", with her sister and former fiance now the parents of school-age children, and seems to still be on amicable terms with them (judo-flipping Gomez around doesn't appear to be based on any actual hostility). This Ophelia did a lot better than her namesake.
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It explains why the creators said "no comment" and asked to keep it a secret when the show comes out. They want to hide the twist as to what happened to Fester.

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* It explains why the creators said "no comment" and asked to keep it a secret when the show comes out. They want to hide the twist as to what happened to Fester.
Fester.
* The other reason they didn't reveal where Fester was could be that they don't want to do one or two things: spoil his role and/or reveal who's playing him.
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[[WMG: Uncle Fester doesn't appear in Netflix's Wednesday because he died before the events of the series]]
It explains why the creators said "no comment" and asked to keep it a secret when the show comes out. They want to hide the twist as to what happened to Fester.
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*** None of them work. That's not because Morticia's a woman, it's just because they're rich as fuck. When they're short on money (in the first film) or Morticia believes them to be (in one episode of the TV show) she does try to get a job, so clearly they're not opposed to ''women'' specifically working. As for Cousin Itt...while male flight attendants existed at the time, they were overwhelmingly women (and hired based on appearance, with many airlines refusing to hire anyone above a certain age or anyone of the wrong height or weight etc) and men did often get their applications rejected because it was seen as a woman's job--so Cousin Itt probably genuinely wouldn't stand much chance of becoming a flight attendant in the 60s. I'd disagree with the "it's not unfair, it's just the way things are" part of the statement, but...it was the 60s, someone very progressive for the time might still have some views that don't seem progressive today, and the show does have its flaws and FairForItsDay moments. ''Where'' is the evidence that the 60s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" ''by 60s standards'' or that the 90s Addamses were "conservative-leaning" by 90s standards, etc.? (And again, while Gomez mentions various relatives of his supporting various politicans, the only one he mentions in a way that strongly suggests he also supported him was Adlai Stevenson--also, they only keep campaign posters for candidates they supported who ''lost'', and they have no posters for 1960 or 1964, suggesting they voted Democrat in these elections since the Democrats won.) ''Addams Family Values'' was even confirmed by WordOfGod to be intended to make fun of and criticise Republicans--represented by the white, blonde people at the summer camp, aka enemies of the Addamses, while Wednesday sides with the marginalised (disabled, Jewish, Black, Asian, Latina, etc) kids and is pretty strongly critical of the idea of celebrating Thanksgiving and the settlers' treatment of the Native Americans.
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** Not quite that progressive. Tish is still a housewife who doesn't have to work, and Gomez was all but traumatized by her having an art career that took her focus away from caring for himself and the children. They also didn't believe Cousin Itt, being male (apparently) can't be a stewardess as he wanted to be. It's entirely possible to be a liberal republican (or a conservative democrat). Many in the elephant party don't have a problem with women voting or anything; that isn't what makes on a republican. It's also quite possible not all members are registered the same; for example, Grandpa Munster himself is a Republican but the rest of his family doesn't appear to be.
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** {{Main/Jossed}}: in the 1960s TV show it's confirmed that Gomez voted for Adlai Stevenson, a Democrat, in both 1952 and 1956. In previous elections, previous Addamses voted for Democrats and Republicans at different times (and if you go back far enough in US history it wasn't as simple as "progressive Democrats, conservative Republicans" and there were some elections where the Republican candidate was viewed as ahead of the Democrat candidate on civil rights, so the fact that some previous Addamses voted Republican doesn't necessarily indicate they were all that conservative). The Addamses also don't generally express particularly conservative views, being ahead of the time on attitudes towards women, for instance, and not treating the baby's gender as particularly important in the films (only caring that "it's an Addams!"). Grandmama even voted before women were allowed to vote.
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However if you actively try to harm the Addemses in some way, like the antagonists of the 90s movies...well then the very universe will conspire to put you into the grave.

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However if you actively try to harm the Addemses in some way, like the antagonists of the 90s movies...well then the very universe will conspire to put you into the grave.grave.

[[WMG: Wednesday's repeated attempts to kill, maim, or poison Joel will end with him acquiring immunity to his various (possibly overblown) vulnerabilities, illnesses, and allergies.]]

Imagine if you were a sheltered kid, and someone comes along who sees through all the bullshit and proves to you (In her own weird way) that you are stronger than you think. It is possible that what his anxious mother considers deadly reactions (such as a common rash from fabric softener) are just mild intolerances, or things he has since grown out of. That and the above mentioned Addams' invulnerability would make sticking around long term a very appealing prospect for Joel.
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* That or he just didn't want to come, opting instead to visit his paternal relatives at those times instead of the spooky step-family to whom he has no relation and who are constantly alluding to killing him. Margaret loved him very much, and was at least somewhat normal at one point. Makes perfect sense for her to have him be visiting Tully's parents or siblings or whatever if the extended Addams family makes him a bit uncomfortable.
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They're a middle class/working class immigrant family who don't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.

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They're a middle class/working class immigrant family who don't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.Americans.

[[WMG: Whatever keeps the Addamses alive despite their deadly antics also extends to everybody who visits them/they interact with...unless you try to harm them]]

Throughout all the movies and shows normal people who visit or interact with the Addemses are frequently put in deathly danger...but, unless they actively try to harm them, none of them ever actually dies; even Amanda in Family Values, whom Wednesday burnt at the stake is seen alive an unharmed later in the movies.
That's because, the exceptional luck that seems to be endemic to the Addams clan also extends to their guests and people they interact with. So if you were to visit their house Gomez might throw knives at you, but you'll always be able to jump out of the way at the last moment and Grandmama might fix you a stew with hemlock and deathly nightshade, but all you get is a tummy ache because she (accidently) also mixed the antidote into the stew, and at the end of the day all that will be hurt are your pride and vanity (and you might keep a few scars, be they physical or mental)
However if you actively try to harm the Addemses in some way, like the antagonists of the 90s movies...well then the very universe will conspire to put you into the grave.
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Perhaps development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.

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Perhaps development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.upon.

[[WMG: The Addamses are the Republicans to the Munsters' Democrats.]]

They're a middle class/working class immigrant family who don't understand why the neighborhood doesn't accept them as fellow civilians while the Addams are the conservative-leaning, wealthy blueblood elite who view ''themselves'' as the standard Americans.
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Ie, it's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhamphir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half human, part vampire and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stew pot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human."

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Ie, it's frequently speculated that Morticia ''is'' a vampire, but clearly she displays few actual, specific vampiric traits (well, the recent animated movie plays them up a bit). So, perhaps, instead, she's a mortal(ish) woman who is related to vampires, or a dhamphir (the living child of a vampire), I suppose. A WMG above suggests that Fester is a werewolf, but perhaps he's simply the child of a werewolf (making his complete hairlessness somewhat ironic). This also dovetails with the above WMG that Gomez is part-ifrit (or that he's Nyarlathotep. The child of an elder god and a human would be understandably weird indeed). This would mean, I suppose, that Pugsley and Wednesday are half human, part vampire and part (whatever we decide Gomez is). It does make for some vaguely complicated family stuff with Fester and Gomez/Morticia (whichever one he's the brother of in a given iteration), but that just means they're half-siblings who share a human parent. Potentially, this means that being an Addams is just... being the child of a human and a "monster." Alternatively, the Addams lineage is just a complete stew pot of monsters and the result is "nigh-invulnerable and 'kooky' but otherwise human.""

[[WMG: The Gomez player-character sprite in the video game based off the film was actually modelled on Creator/JohnAstin, not Creator/RaulJulia]]
Seriously, look at him. He looks '''way''' more like Astin than Julia. Also, he frequently sports that charming toothy smile that was much more a trademark of Astin's Gomez then Julia's.

Perhaps development of the game needed to begin well before the role of Gomez had been cast for the movie, so the developers used the only model for Gomez they had at the time? It should be noticed that Creator/RaulJulia's likeness does appear in the backdrop during the game's portrait gallery levels, however, these are only static images and could easily have been edited in by the game dev's at the last minute. The Gomez player-character sprite, being far more complex and essential to the game's development, would've needed to have been more or less complete much earlier in the game's development; potentially well before Julia's casting in the film had been settled upon.

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