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They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be that they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one gives them that power unopposed.
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They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be that they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one gives them that power unopposed.unopposed.
[[WMG: Inversion explains Dark Matter, Dark Energy, and other physics mysteries]]
Inversion and inverse radiation implies a quantum field/particle that causes the process to happen. This quantum field implies some extra systems exist that relate to inversion. part of these fields includes a background inversion field that keeps the universe moving on forward time, which fills all of space, acting as dark energy. A chargeless, colorless particle, maybe an inversion carrier or something else, makes up dark matter. the arrow of time is in fact a property of all particles, and can be changed with inversion. Particles that invert one way or another interact with matter and antimatter differently, the universe operating on forward time is an asymmetry that caused more matter to form, a universe that instead someow operated in reverse time would act the opposite.
Bam. Physicists, where's my nobel prize?
[[WMG: Inversion explains Dark Matter, Dark Energy, and other physics mysteries]]
Inversion and inverse radiation implies a quantum field/particle that causes the process to happen. This quantum field implies some extra systems exist that relate to inversion. part of these fields includes a background inversion field that keeps the universe moving on forward time, which fills all of space, acting as dark energy. A chargeless, colorless particle, maybe an inversion carrier or something else, makes up dark matter. the arrow of time is in fact a property of all particles, and can be changed with inversion. Particles that invert one way or another interact with matter and antimatter differently, the universe operating on forward time is an asymmetry that caused more matter to form, a universe that instead someow operated in reverse time would act the opposite.
Bam. Physicists, where's my nobel prize?
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* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.
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* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.
time. Saying that "It will be founded in the future" is a misunderstanding.
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*** He might have a French ''spelling'' of a name. It's a variant spelling of a very conventional English name. That's not an unusual thing at all. Many girls in English-speaking countries are named Emilie instead of Emily. What's tenuous about Max's full name being Maximilien instead of Maximilian? It's off by one letter.
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He obviously absorbed a but in the car chase, but the fight with himself, experiencing the same event from both direction, really taught him how to think with inverted time and understand how people act. After the fight is when he actively helps plan the event with Priya and helps organize the final battle.
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He obviously absorbed a but bit in the car chase, but the fight with himself, experiencing the same event from both direction, really taught him how to think with inverted time and understand how people act. After the fight is when he actively helps plan the event with Priya and helps organize the final battle.
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They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one makes gives them that unopposed.
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They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be that they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one makes gives them that power unopposed.
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It is almost certainly in the movie to help us the audience in the same way.
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It is almost certainly in the movie to help us the audience in the same way.way.
[[WMG: Andrei Sator's benefactors flat-out lied about the future]]
They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one makes gives them that unopposed.
[[WMG: Andrei Sator's benefactors flat-out lied about the future]]
They could simply be nihilists who lied about global warming (which is definitely a current topic in 2021) and who they really are in order to motivate Sator. Their motivations could just be they want power for themselves and destroying the world and creating a new one makes gives them that unopposed.
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** In which case, Sator engineered his own downfall by forcing Kat into marriage and conceiving him.
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He obviously absorbed a but in the car chase, but the fight with himself, experiencing the same event from both direction, really taught him how to think with inverted time and understand how people act. After the fight is when he actively helps plan the event with Priya and helps organize the final battle.battle.
It is almost certainly in the movie to help us the audience in the same way.
It is almost certainly in the movie to help us the audience in the same way.
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The proof of their success is [[Main/MetaFiction the fact that the film is fiction]]. These are the remais of the destroyed universe, [[Main/LiteraryAgentHypothesis manifesting as a story idea]] in [[Creator/ChristopherNolan a mind]] in a [[Main/RealLife nearby universe]].
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The proof of their success is [[Main/MetaFiction the fact that the film is fiction]]. These are the remais of the destroyed universe, [[Main/LiteraryAgentHypothesis manifesting as a story idea]] in [[Creator/ChristopherNolan a mind]] in a [[Main/RealLife nearby universe]].universe]].
[[WMG:. The second time through the Oslo fight is when the Protagonist "got" inversion]]
He obviously absorbed a but in the car chase, but the fight with himself, experiencing the same event from both direction, really taught him how to think with inverted time and understand how people act. After the fight is when he actively helps plan the event with Priya and helps organize the final battle.
[[WMG:. The second time through the Oslo fight is when the Protagonist "got" inversion]]
He obviously absorbed a but in the car chase, but the fight with himself, experiencing the same event from both direction, really taught him how to think with inverted time and understand how people act. After the fight is when he actively helps plan the event with Priya and helps organize the final battle.
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* OOOHH!! This is now head canon for me!
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* OOOHH!! This is now head canon for me!me!
[[WMG: the future Antagonists eventually succeed in destroying the world]]
The proof of their success is [[Main/MetaFiction the fact that the film is fiction]]. These are the remais of the destroyed universe, [[Main/LiteraryAgentHypothesis manifesting as a story idea]] in [[Creator/ChristopherNolan a mind]] in a [[Main/RealLife nearby universe]].
[[WMG: the future Antagonists eventually succeed in destroying the world]]
The proof of their success is [[Main/MetaFiction the fact that the film is fiction]]. These are the remais of the destroyed universe, [[Main/LiteraryAgentHypothesis manifesting as a story idea]] in [[Creator/ChristopherNolan a mind]] in a [[Main/RealLife nearby universe]].
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[[WMG: Inversion is somehow connected/related to the time travel devices/method seen in Primer.]]
Both require N amount of "personal time" spent inside in order to travel N amount of time into the past/future, suggestion a sort of Law of Conservation of Time Progression.
Both require N amount of "personal time" spent inside in order to travel N amount of time into the past/future, suggestion a sort of Law of Conservation of Time Progression.
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[[WMG: Inversion is somehow connected/related to the time travel devices/method seen in Primer.''Film/{{Primer}}''.]]
Both require N amount of "personal time" spent inside in order to travel N amount of time into the past/future, suggestion a sort of Law of Conservation of Time Progression.Progression.
*OOOHH!! This is now head canon for me!
*OOOHH!! This is now head canon for me!
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Primer entry.
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[[WMG: Inversion is somehow connected/related to the time travel devices/method seen in Primer.]]
Both require N amount of "personal time" spent inside in order to travel N amount of time into the past/future, suggestion a sort of Law of Conservation of Time Progression.
[[WMG: Inversion is somehow connected/related to the time travel devices/method seen in Primer.]]
Both require N amount of "personal time" spent inside in order to travel N amount of time into the past/future, suggestion a sort of Law of Conservation of Time Progression.
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The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result. When the people involved explained this to others, the story was distorted and simplified into "inverted and normal objects that touch themselves annihilate".
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The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result. When the people involved explained this to others, the story was distorted and simplified into "inverted and normal objects that touch themselves annihilate".annihilate".
* Basically confirmed in-film by the fight scene the Protaganist has against himself
* Basically confirmed in-film by the fight scene the Protaganist has against himself
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The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result. When the people involved explained this to others, the story was distorted and simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated".
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The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result. When the people involved explained this to others, the story was distorted and simplified into "don't "inverted and normal objects that touch yourself or you will be annihilated".themselves annihilate".
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Inverted and normal objects are said to annihilate if the make contact. However, this is impossible, to touch its time reversed self, an object would have to touch itself, continue existing, get turnstiled, than touch the original, but by touching itself it was annihilated, so it can't go back. There's also no physical reason for this, skin constantly sheds, good is eaten, material corrodes, etc., so the exact particles are never the same.
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact place at the exact time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. when the people involved explained this to others, the story was simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated". Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result.
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact place at the exact time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. when the people involved explained this to others, the story was simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated". Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result.
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Inverted and normal objects are said to annihilate if the make contact. However, this is impossible, to touch its time reversed self, an object would have to touch itself, continue existing, get turnstiled, than touch the original, but by touching itself it was annihilated, so it can't go back. There's also no physical reason for this, skin constantly sheds, good food is eaten, material corrodes, etc., so the exact particles are never the same.
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the objectexploded. when the people involved explained this to others, the story was simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated".exploded. Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result. When the people involved explained this to others, the story was distorted and simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated".
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact same place at the exact same time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object
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* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.
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* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.time.
[[WMG: Objects don't annihilate when they touch. A turnstile accident was the source of this story]]
Inverted and normal objects are said to annihilate if the make contact. However, this is impossible, to touch its time reversed self, an object would have to touch itself, continue existing, get turnstiled, than touch the original, but by touching itself it was annihilated, so it can't go back. There's also no physical reason for this, skin constantly sheds, good is eaten, material corrodes, etc., so the exact particles are never the same.
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact place at the exact time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. when the people involved explained this to others, the story was simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated". Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result.
[[WMG: Objects don't annihilate when they touch. A turnstile accident was the source of this story]]
Inverted and normal objects are said to annihilate if the make contact. However, this is impossible, to touch its time reversed self, an object would have to touch itself, continue existing, get turnstiled, than touch the original, but by touching itself it was annihilated, so it can't go back. There's also no physical reason for this, skin constantly sheds, good is eaten, material corrodes, etc., so the exact particles are never the same.
The source of this story is instead a turnstile accident. When designing turnstiles, someone at some point didn't move the inverting objects, instead inverting in place. Doing this places 2 copies of each particle in the object at the exact place at the exact time at the instant of inversion, which is impossible, so the object exploded. when the people involved explained this to others, the story was simplified into "don't touch yourself or you will be annihilated". Turnstiles are always designed to move as a result.
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**** Max lives in England; his mother is English and his father Russian. If this theory rests on his having a French name, it might be a little tenuous.
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**** It ''is'' a real given name. [[UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre It's a French name]], its equivalent in English is "Maximilian".
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The one or two men who broke into Leonard's house injured him. While he was in the hospital, the machine was used on him. However, it didn't quite work properly, and Leonard now exists in in a strange confusion of forward and backward. As a result, the movie memento was not just representing how Leonard thinks, it represents how time actually flows for him. However, the incomplete inversion process means Leonard skips backwards in time, with forward segments to connect, rather than continuous backward time travel. The inversion failure also goofed up his memory somewhat.
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The one or two men who broke into Leonard's house injured him. While he was in the hospital, the machine was used on him. However, it didn't quite work properly, and Leonard now exists in in a strange confusion of forward and backward. As a result, the movie memento was not just representing how Leonard thinks, it represents how time actually flows for him. However, the incomplete inversion process means Leonard skips backwards in time, with forward segments to connect, rather than continuous backward time travel. The inversion failure also goofed up his memory somewhat.somewhat.
[[WMG: Tenet's founding is a self generating stable time loop]]
The protagonist must have spent years and tons of effort to build up such a powerful organization, right? Not necessarily.
* To recruit agents: In the protagonist and Neil's case, both kind of recruited each other. Neil taught the protagonist some important details, and protag did so whenever he recruited Neil. Some inversion happened at some point to generate a closed loop. If tenet agents take part in similar cycles, while making sure to hire some extra agents, than the whole organization could recruit itself.
* Tenet's philosophy/way of operating is a similar time loop: the agents teach the recruits, who tech the previous recruits, and everything cycles around.
* By using inversion, tenet could use its resources to acquire resources in the past (like the ships, guns, containers, etc.), which are than used to buy things in the future. Tricks like taking advantage of the stock market or future business knowledge could generate money.
* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.
[[WMG: Tenet's founding is a self generating stable time loop]]
The protagonist must have spent years and tons of effort to build up such a powerful organization, right? Not necessarily.
* To recruit agents: In the protagonist and Neil's case, both kind of recruited each other. Neil taught the protagonist some important details, and protag did so whenever he recruited Neil. Some inversion happened at some point to generate a closed loop. If tenet agents take part in similar cycles, while making sure to hire some extra agents, than the whole organization could recruit itself.
* Tenet's philosophy/way of operating is a similar time loop: the agents teach the recruits, who tech the previous recruits, and everything cycles around.
* By using inversion, tenet could use its resources to acquire resources in the past (like the ships, guns, containers, etc.), which are than used to buy things in the future. Tricks like taking advantage of the stock market or future business knowledge could generate money.
* Priya said "Tenet wasn't founded in the past" which would technically be true, Tenet would not have been founded at any particular time.
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Maybe this was done to create a process of technological development that ultimately makes inversion itself possible, leading to a StableTimeLoop.
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Maybe this was done to create a process of technological development that ultimately makes inversion itself possible, leading to a StableTimeLoop.StableTimeLoop.
[[WMG: [[{{Film/Memento}} Leonard Shelby]] was a test subject for an early turnstile]]
The one or two men who broke into Leonard's house injured him. While he was in the hospital, the machine was used on him. However, it didn't quite work properly, and Leonard now exists in in a strange confusion of forward and backward. As a result, the movie memento was not just representing how Leonard thinks, it represents how time actually flows for him. However, the incomplete inversion process means Leonard skips backwards in time, with forward segments to connect, rather than continuous backward time travel. The inversion failure also goofed up his memory somewhat.
[[WMG: [[{{Film/Memento}} Leonard Shelby]] was a test subject for an early turnstile]]
The one or two men who broke into Leonard's house injured him. While he was in the hospital, the machine was used on him. However, it didn't quite work properly, and Leonard now exists in in a strange confusion of forward and backward. As a result, the movie memento was not just representing how Leonard thinks, it represents how time actually flows for him. However, the incomplete inversion process means Leonard skips backwards in time, with forward segments to connect, rather than continuous backward time travel. The inversion failure also goofed up his memory somewhat.
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** Once Kat is in his and the Protagonist's protection, he is the one to take care of her and treat her wound, and is implied to have spent a lot of time with her while inverted, prepping for the mission--maybe because he's a NiceGuy, maybe also out of affection for his mother, whom he'll never see in his own timeline again.
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While Nolan's films are set in an approximation of the 'real world', very often they feature highly advanced and even futuristic technology. The 'extraction' technology in ''Film/Inception'' and the memory fabric in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' spring to mind, but an even more glaring example is the [[spoiler: cloning technology]] seemingly invented by Nikola Tesla in ''Film/ThePrestige''. Could it be possible that this advanced technology is due to Nolan's films being set in a CloseEnoughTimeline to the real-world, albeit one in which the past was seeded with advanced technologies due to someone sending blueprints and other information back in time via inversion?
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While Nolan's films are set in an approximation of the 'real world', very often they feature highly advanced and even futuristic technology. The 'extraction' technology in ''Film/Inception'' ''Film/{{Inception}}'' and the memory fabric in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' spring to mind, but an even more glaring example is the [[spoiler: cloning technology]] seemingly invented by Nikola Tesla in ''Film/ThePrestige''. Could it be possible that this advanced technology is due to Nolan's films being set in a CloseEnoughTimeline to the real-world, albeit one in which the past was seeded with advanced technologies due to someone sending blueprints and other information back in time via inversion?
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Those [=FDBs=] are combated by the other [=FDBs=] who assisted Cooper. This second group of [=FDBs=] believe that they have no right to change the past and must own up for their mistakes. They made their own bed and now they must lie in it, so they decided to move on to other worlds and start over instead of trying to fix what won't be. This group is the one who made the events of ''Interstellar'' happen ''while also'' being the future incarnations of ''Tenet'' who seeks to ensure their opponent does not succeed in wiping the slate clean by influencing The Protagonist to start this faction in the first place. Think of it as a millennium-spanning XanatosSpeedChess between two groups of [=FDBs=] in the far future. One wanting to erase everything and restart humanity over as they see fit, while the other wants humanity to own up for their mistakes in their own way without forcibly wiping out the past.
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Those [=FDBs=] are combated by the other [=FDBs=] who assisted Cooper. This second group of [=FDBs=] believe that they have no right to change the past and must own up for their mistakes. They made their own bed and now they must lie in it, so they decided to move on to other worlds and start over instead of trying to fix what won't be. This group is the one who made the events of ''Interstellar'' happen ''while also'' being the future incarnations of ''Tenet'' who seeks to ensure their opponent does not succeed in wiping the slate clean by influencing The Protagonist to start this faction in the first place. Think of it as a millennium-spanning XanatosSpeedChess between two groups of [=FDBs=] in the far future. One wanting to erase everything and restart humanity over as they see fit, while the other wants humanity to own up for their mistakes in their own way without forcibly wiping out the past.past.
[[WMG: Advanced technology in previous Nolan films was the result of inversion]]
While Nolan's films are set in an approximation of the 'real world', very often they feature highly advanced and even futuristic technology. The 'extraction' technology in ''Film/Inception'' and the memory fabric in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' spring to mind, but an even more glaring example is the [[spoiler: cloning technology]] seemingly invented by Nikola Tesla in ''Film/ThePrestige''. Could it be possible that this advanced technology is due to Nolan's films being set in a CloseEnoughTimeline to the real-world, albeit one in which the past was seeded with advanced technologies due to someone sending blueprints and other information back in time via inversion?
There's no indication that inversion was necessarily invented either by Tenet or by Sator's mysterious backers. It may have been invented by someone else and used by multiple individuals or groups in the future to send objects or people back to influence the past. Maybe someone decided to alter the course of technological development by, say, sending back some information to Nikola Tesla in the late 19th century? And Tesla used this information to invent technologies he never would have in our world, and over time this process of secret technological development led to WayneTech developing the memory cloth or extraction being developed by the government or whoever Cobb and his wife originally worked for.
Maybe this was done to create a process of technological development that ultimately makes inversion itself possible, leading to a StableTimeLoop.
[[WMG: Advanced technology in previous Nolan films was the result of inversion]]
While Nolan's films are set in an approximation of the 'real world', very often they feature highly advanced and even futuristic technology. The 'extraction' technology in ''Film/Inception'' and the memory fabric in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' spring to mind, but an even more glaring example is the [[spoiler: cloning technology]] seemingly invented by Nikola Tesla in ''Film/ThePrestige''. Could it be possible that this advanced technology is due to Nolan's films being set in a CloseEnoughTimeline to the real-world, albeit one in which the past was seeded with advanced technologies due to someone sending blueprints and other information back in time via inversion?
There's no indication that inversion was necessarily invented either by Tenet or by Sator's mysterious backers. It may have been invented by someone else and used by multiple individuals or groups in the future to send objects or people back to influence the past. Maybe someone decided to alter the course of technological development by, say, sending back some information to Nikola Tesla in the late 19th century? And Tesla used this information to invent technologies he never would have in our world, and over time this process of secret technological development led to WayneTech developing the memory cloth or extraction being developed by the government or whoever Cobb and his wife originally worked for.
Maybe this was done to create a process of technological development that ultimately makes inversion itself possible, leading to a StableTimeLoop.
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** "Neil" is the last four letters of "Maximilien" read backwards. Max is the beginning, a boy who will go forward to become a friend of the Protagonist in the war against the enemies from the future, and eventually take the identity of Neil, a man who will ultimately go backward and find his end in the past.
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[[WMG: Neil is a grown-up Michael, the son of Kat and Sator]]
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[[WMG: Neil is a grown-up Michael, Max, the son of Kat and Sator]]
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[[WMG: Neil is a grown-up Michael, the son of Kat and Sator]]
Thats why he remembered the date of the trip to Vietnam and why the camera focuses on him when Kat expresses fear for the future of his son.
Thats why he remembered the date of the trip to Vietnam and why the camera focuses on him when Kat expresses fear for the future of his son.
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[[WMG: Andrei Sator's benefactors from the future are the Fifth-Dimensional Beings from ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'']]
Or at least a faction of them. The Fifth-Dimensional Beings in that movie are established to have the power to control time to an extent (to the point that they can recover Cooper from a black hole and placed him in the fifth-dimension plane so he can influence time via gravity) so it's not that far-fetched to think that they are capable of altering time as they see fit without worrying that the destruction of the past could affect the future (aka their present). So, there is this group of [=FDBs=], who believed that the dying world in ''Interstellar'' timeline is the result of the thoughtlessness actions of [[HumansAreBastards humans in the past]], so they seek to redo it altogether by using Sator to destroy their own past entirely before humanity has a chance to ruin the world. After they wipe the slate clean, then it's their turn to influence a new generation of humanity as they see fit so they won't go down the same path.
Those [=FDBs=] are combated by the other [=FDBs=] who assisted Cooper. This second group of [=FDBs=] believe that they have no right to change the past and must own up for their mistakes. They made their own bed and now they must lie in it, so they decided to move on to other worlds and start over instead of trying to fix what won't be. This group is the one who made the events of ''Interstellar'' happen ''while also'' being the future incarnations of ''Tenet'' who seeks to ensure their opponent does not succeed in wiping the slate clean by influencing The Protagonist to start this faction in the first place. Think of it as a millennium-spanning XanatosSpeedChess between two groups of [=FDBs=] in the far future. One wanting to erase everything and restart humanity over as they see fit, while the other wants humanity to own up for their mistakes in their own way without forcibly wiping out the past.
Or at least a faction of them. The Fifth-Dimensional Beings in that movie are established to have the power to control time to an extent (to the point that they can recover Cooper from a black hole and placed him in the fifth-dimension plane so he can influence time via gravity) so it's not that far-fetched to think that they are capable of altering time as they see fit without worrying that the destruction of the past could affect the future (aka their present). So, there is this group of [=FDBs=], who believed that the dying world in ''Interstellar'' timeline is the result of the thoughtlessness actions of [[HumansAreBastards humans in the past]], so they seek to redo it altogether by using Sator to destroy their own past entirely before humanity has a chance to ruin the world. After they wipe the slate clean, then it's their turn to influence a new generation of humanity as they see fit so they won't go down the same path.
Those [=FDBs=] are combated by the other [=FDBs=] who assisted Cooper. This second group of [=FDBs=] believe that they have no right to change the past and must own up for their mistakes. They made their own bed and now they must lie in it, so they decided to move on to other worlds and start over instead of trying to fix what won't be. This group is the one who made the events of ''Interstellar'' happen ''while also'' being the future incarnations of ''Tenet'' who seeks to ensure their opponent does not succeed in wiping the slate clean by influencing The Protagonist to start this faction in the first place. Think of it as a millennium-spanning XanatosSpeedChess between two groups of [=FDBs=] in the far future. One wanting to erase everything and restart humanity over as they see fit, while the other wants humanity to own up for their mistakes in their own way without forcibly wiping out the past.
