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Greninja having PokemonSpeak pretty much confirms this. This also increases the chances of Mewtwo being [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Femtwo]], if it returns at all. The only possibilities for ''Origins'' elements would be voice actors for the human characters (Red, Oak, Brock, etc.), who are unlikely to make full appearances, let alone voiced ones (with Pokémon Trainer already deconfirmed).
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Greninja having PokemonSpeak pretty much confirms this. This also increases the chances of Mewtwo being [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Femtwo]], if it returns at all. The only possibilities for ''Origins'' elements would be voice actors for the human characters (Red, Oak, Brock, etc.), who are unlikely to make full appearances, let alone voiced ones (with Pokémon Trainer already deconfirmed). deconfirmed).
[[WMG:The trophies are portals to the SSB Universe]]
Bear with me on this, but after the first game, when the trophies are introduced, the trophies are actually a sort of portal/battlesuit/simulation for the actual people the trophies are modeled after. This is related to the fact that it's seen that Villager is shown getting an invitation to the fight. When the trophies take too much damaged or are knocked out, the actual person gets released from the simulation and are sent back to where they come from, while the trophies get turned into, well, trophies. However, something strange happened during the Subspace Emissary, where with the introduction of Subspace and the Subspace weapons, they were no longer released from the whole thing and were stuck in permanent stasis when in Subspace or when struck by one of those arrows, which is why everyone treats Subspace as such a big deal (besides, y'know, the whole world being destroyed and etc.). It also explains why everyone looks so serious in the game; not very fun to brawl when there's a chance you are essentially dead if you lose. But by the fourth game, the threat of Tabuu and Subspace is gone, and so the whole thing looks more bright and colorful. Some people do still look serious, but for the most part the threat is gone now, and the brawlers can have fun now again.
[[WMG:The trophies are portals to the SSB Universe]]
Bear with me on this, but after the first game, when the trophies are introduced, the trophies are actually a sort of portal/battlesuit/simulation for the actual people the trophies are modeled after. This is related to the fact that it's seen that Villager is shown getting an invitation to the fight. When the trophies take too much damaged or are knocked out, the actual person gets released from the simulation and are sent back to where they come from, while the trophies get turned into, well, trophies. However, something strange happened during the Subspace Emissary, where with the introduction of Subspace and the Subspace weapons, they were no longer released from the whole thing and were stuck in permanent stasis when in Subspace or when struck by one of those arrows, which is why everyone treats Subspace as such a big deal (besides, y'know, the whole world being destroyed and etc.). It also explains why everyone looks so serious in the game; not very fun to brawl when there's a chance you are essentially dead if you lose. But by the fourth game, the threat of Tabuu and Subspace is gone, and so the whole thing looks more bright and colorful. Some people do still look serious, but for the most part the threat is gone now, and the brawlers can have fun now again.
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[[WMG:The fourth game will not include any elements from ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'']]
Greninja having PokemonSpeak pretty much confirms this. This also increases the chances of Mewtwo being [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Femtwo]], if it returns at all. The only possibilities for ''Origins'' elements would be voice actors for the human characters (Red, Oak, Brock, etc.), who are unlikely to make full appearances, let alone voiced ones (with Pokémon Trainer already deconfirmed).
[[WMG:The fourth game will not include any elements from ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'']]
Greninja having PokemonSpeak pretty much confirms this. This also increases the chances of Mewtwo being [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Femtwo]], if it returns at all. The only possibilities for ''Origins'' elements would be voice actors for the human characters (Red, Oak, Brock, etc.), who are unlikely to make full appearances, let alone voiced ones (with Pokémon Trainer already deconfirmed).
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** Rosalina: Dr. Light - Space based, potentially unlimited powers
*** Or Zatanna as a magician generally
*** Or Zatanna as a magician generally
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** Palutena: Hawkgirl
** Palutena: Hawkgirl
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*** Or Zatanna as a magician generally
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[[WMG:Snake will return at E3]]
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** Or he could just not talk. At all.
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[[WMG:There will be several options.]]
* Wii U: Off-TV Play, because hey, why not?
* 3DS: The option to have either the camera focus on all 4 fighters, or just the 3DS owner.
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VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! See! [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo and JohnnyTest in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and Franchise/WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright all the way to Timbuktu!
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright all the way to Timbuktu!
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VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny WebAnimation/UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! Franchise/SilentHill! See! [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo [=KOs=] ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo'' and JohnnyTest ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'' in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack [[WesternAnimation/TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and Franchise/WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball [[WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off withIndianaJones Franchise/IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet [[Disney/TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats Disney/TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright VisualNovel/{{Phoenix Wright|Ace Attorney}} all the way to Timbuktu!
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with
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** Alternatively, Other M!Ridley will be both playable and a boss, but when Ridley is on the Pyrosphere as a playable character, we get in his place...[[VideoGame/MetroidZeroMission Robot]] [[VideoGame/NintendoLand Ridley]].
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** Alternatively, Other M!Ridley will be both playable and a boss, but when Ridley is on the Pyrosphere as a playable character, we get in his place...[[VideoGame/MetroidZeroMission Robot]] [[VideoGame/NintendoLand Ridley]].
Ridley]]. It would be similar as to how Toon Link can be both a stage element and a playable character regarding the Spirit Tracks stage, with Alfonzo replacing him whenever he's on stage.
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** Alternatively, Other M!Ridley will be both playable and a boss, but when Ridley is on the Pyrosphere as a playable character, we get in his place...[[VideoGame/MetroidZeroMission Robot]] [[VideoGame/NintendoLand Ridley]].
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[[WMG:Half of Wii Fit Trainer's palette swaps will be the male trainer.]]
* Wario in Brawl had twelve palette swaps, six for WarioWare clothing, six for Wario's World clothing. When Greninja was revealed, one of it's images had the MALE Wii Fit Trainer in it. It's not unreasonable.
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* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
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** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man)
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Think about it. Capcom probably has the most recognized characters besides Nintendo. I Capcom were to make a Smash game featuring characters from the various VideoGame/MegaMan series, StreetFighter, VideoGame/DevilMayCry, ViewtifulJoe, DeadRising, Franchise/ResidentEvil, and all their other series, it would be pure awesome. And it could lead to a [[CapcomVsWhatever Nintendo vs. Capcom]].
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Think about it. Capcom probably has the most recognized characters besides Nintendo. I Capcom were to make a Smash game featuring characters from the various VideoGame/MegaMan VideoGame/MegaManClassic series, StreetFighter, VideoGame/DevilMayCry, ViewtifulJoe, DeadRising, Franchise/ResidentEvil, and all their other series, it would be pure awesome. And it could lead to a [[CapcomVsWhatever Nintendo vs. Capcom]].
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** Jossed. MegaMan is was revealed to be playable. Further Jossed with Sonic's return potentially meaning Snake could return as well.
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** Jossed. MegaMan Mega Man is was revealed to be playable. Further Jossed with Sonic's return potentially meaning Snake could return as well.
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* Even after being beaten in that game, when he gets a Final Smash, it activates the residual power of the Dream Stone shards still inside him.
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* Even after being beaten in that game, when he gets a Final Smash, it activates the residual power of the Dream Stone shards still inside him.him.
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For the main article, go [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros here]].
For the main WMG page, go [[WMG/SuperSmashBros here]].
For the main WMG page, go [[WMG/SuperSmashBros here]].
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[[WMG: Bowser's Final Smash in U/3DS will be [[MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam Dreamy Bowser]]
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be Ridley as he appeared in ''Metroid: Other M'', serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere. The other will be a playable character, being Ridley as he appeared in a different game like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''. This is justified because [[spoiler:the Ridley from ''Other M'' is actually a clone of the original Ridley, so it's perfectly possible to have two different Ridleys.]]
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be Ridley as he appeared in ''Metroid: Other M'', serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere. The other will be a playable character, being Ridley as he appeared in a different game like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''. This is justified because [[spoiler:the Ridley from ''Other M'' is actually a clone of the original Ridley, so it's perfectly possible to have two different Ridleys.]]]]
[[WMG: Bowser's Final Smash in U/3DS will be [[MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam Dreamy Bowser]]
*Even after being beaten in that game, when he gets a Final Smash, it activates the residual power of the Dream Stone shards still inside him.
[[WMG: Bowser's Final Smash in U/3DS will be [[MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam Dreamy Bowser]]
*Even after being beaten in that game, when he gets a Final Smash, it activates the residual power of the Dream Stone shards still inside him.
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be Ridley as he appeared in ''Metroid: Other M'', serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere. The other will be a playable character, being Ridley as he appeared in a different game like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''. [[spoiler:This is justified because the Ridley from ''Other M'' is actually a clone of the original Ridley, so it's perfectly possible to have two different Ridleys.]]
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be Ridley as he appeared in ''Metroid: Other M'', serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere. The other will be a playable character, being Ridley as he appeared in a different game like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''. [[spoiler:This This is justified because the [[spoiler:the Ridley from ''Other M'' is actually a clone of the original Ridley, so it's perfectly possible to have two different Ridleys.]]
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be the Ridley from ''Metroid: Other M'' serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere, the other will be a Ridley from a different game, like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''.
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* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be the Ridley from as he appeared in ''Metroid: Other M'' M'', serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere, the Pyrosphere. The other will be a playable character, being Ridley from as he appeared in a different game, game like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''.Prime''. [[spoiler:This is justified because the Ridley from ''Other M'' is actually a clone of the original Ridley, so it's perfectly possible to have two different Ridleys.]]
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* While the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series has changed some characters' designs considerably in the past, it usually only happens to characters that haven't had a new game for a long time, like Pit. Zero Suit Samus, however, has had a consistent design in the ''Metroid'' series for quite a while now, yet her design in this game is very different, even if you ignore her new rocket heels. What's more, since the series runs on RuleOfFun, it seems unusual that Sakurai would add justifications for Samus's new abilities unless they tied into something else.
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* While the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series has changed some characters' designs considerably in the past, it usually only happens to characters that haven't had a new game for a long time, like Pit. Zero Suit Samus, however, has had a consistent design in the ''Metroid'' series for quite a while now, yet her design in this game is very different, even if you ignore her new rocket heels. What's more, since the series runs on RuleOfFun, it seems unusual that Sakurai would add justifications for Samus's new abilities unless they tied into something else.else.
[[WMG: Ridley will be both a playable character and a boss.]]
* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be the Ridley from ''Metroid: Other M'' serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere, the other will be a Ridley from a different game, like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''.
[[WMG: Ridley will be both a playable character and a boss.]]
* In true [[TrollingCreator Sakurai fashion]], he'll reveal that the game has two Ridleys. One will be the Ridley from ''Metroid: Other M'' serving as the boss on the Pyrosphere, the other will be a Ridley from a different game, like Meta Ridley from ''Metroid Prime''.
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** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) - super powered biker on par with Superman, introduced as avillain, became an antihero
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** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) - super powered biker on par with Superman, introduced as avillain, villain, became an antihero
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*** As of ''U/3DS'', Sheik is now Helena Bertinelli.
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al Ghul
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al Ghul
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*** As of ''U/3DS'', Sheik is now Huntress Helena Bertinelli.
** Ganondorf: Ra's AlGhulGhul - immortal nemesis sometimes tied to origin story
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al
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** Marth: Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)
** Ike: Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
** Ike: Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
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** Marth: Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)
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** Roy: Knight I
** Ike:Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)Atomic Knight
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** Ike:
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** Lucas: Warhawk
** Lucas: Warhawk
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** Lucas:WarhawkBlue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
** Lucas:
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*** Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo; Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
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** Peach: Lois Lane
** Bowser: Lex Luthor/Doomsday
** Yoshi: Krypto
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume)
** Bowser: Lex Luthor/Doomsday
** Yoshi: Krypto
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume)
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** Peach: Lois Lane
Lane - recurring DamselInDistress for Superman/ Mario
** Bowser: LexLuthor/Doomsday
Luthor/Doomsday - most often recurring/greatest physical threat to Superman
** Yoshi:Krypto
Krypto - Superman's Animal Buddy
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) - super powered biker on par with Superman, introduced as avillain, became an antihero
** Bowser: Lex
** Yoshi:
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) - super powered biker on par with Superman, introduced as avillain, became an antihero
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** Rosalina: Dr. Light
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*** Or Zatanna.
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Canary - known for physical fitness (Canary was also the trainer on YoungJustice)
** Rosalina: Dr.Light
Light - Space based, potentially unlimited powers
*** OrZatanna.Zatanna as a magician generally
** Rosalina: Dr.
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*** Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo; Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
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*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
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[[WMG: Zero Suit Samus's design in the fourth game is actually an EarlyBirdCameo for a new Metroid game.]]
* While the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series has changed some characters' designs considerably in the past, it usually only happens to characters that haven't had a new game for a long time, like Pit. Zero Suit Samus, however, has had a consistent design in the ''Metroid'' series for quite a while now, yet her design in this game is very different, even if you ignore her new rocket heels. What's more, since the series runs on RuleOfFun, it seems unusual that Sakurai would add justifications for Samus's new abilities unless they tied into something else.
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[[WMG: The Beam Sword will not be in a future smash bros game]]
It had a nice run, but it will be replaced by weapons from the 3DS Kid Icarus game. A club, a cannon and two orbiters. Alternatively, it will be replaced by a beam sword that has actually shown up in a Nintendo game(take your pick).
* Maybe the Beam Claws from Uprising?
It had a nice run, but it will be replaced by weapons from the 3DS Kid Icarus game. A club, a cannon and two orbiters. Alternatively, it will be replaced by a beam sword that has actually shown up in a Nintendo game(take your pick).
* Maybe the Beam Claws from Uprising?
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[[WMG: Tabuu is a [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog Friend]]; Subspace is the Other Side.]]
He's second in command to [[{{Fantasia}} Chernabog]]. Just like the other Friends, he brings evil into the world by remotely manipulating other villains.
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[[WMG: Mario is an alternate universe counterpart to Superman, and all other Nintendo characters correspond similarly.]]
'''Warning, this is the longest part of the Page. You have been warned. Scroll to bottom for sorted out list.'''
* He wears a red and blue costume, has a similar name -- "Super Mario" -- gains special abilities from the environment of his adopted homeworld (tying in with the "mushroom kingdom has lesser gravity" theory mentioned above, which was the same explanation for Superman's powers in the original stories from the 30's -- note original Superman had the same basic powerset as Mario -- super strength, speed, and enhanced jumping ability), and is the primary hero in his universe. Most of Mario's additional powers come from plant life, such as mushrooms and fire flowers, which absorb sunlight through photosynthesis -- similarly to Superman's solar-fueled powers. Note that Mario's powerup abilities are similar to those of Superman:
* Fireflower - Heat vision
* Starman - Invulnerability
* Raccoon/Cape/Wing Cap/Red Star - Flight (especially the cape)
* Iceflower- Freeze breath
** Yes, this is a very loose connection, but consider the Tangent universe Superman, a bald black guy with ESP, and the numerous other bizarre elseworlds versions (German Expressionist Superman anyone?) and it's relatively believable.
*** Additionally, this also solves the mystery of Wario's origin, as Wario is quite clearly the alternate universe counterpart to Bizzaro, and is therefore most likely an imperfect clone.
* Furthermore, transitive equality means that Sonic is therefore an Elseworlds Goku, which makes sense what with the super-sonic form being oh so obviously Super Saiyan.
** And suddenly, "NOW I'LL SHOW YOU!" actually becomes evidence for this. I mean, just listen to it after hearing Goku a few times!
* Even further, this means Link is an Elseworlds Batman, what with all his weaponry, popularity, and stints between being a stoic badass and being cartoony.
** So does this make Super Smash Bros the Crisis?
*** Yes. Melee is Infinite Crisis, and Brawl is Final Crisis.
**** But wouldn't that in turn make the alloys and wireframes the O.M.A.C.s?
** QED Sheik = Catwoman.
* To really run this into the ground, Samus is Wonderwoman (raised in a isolated, utopian society and granted powers by the gifts of the gods/ sufficiently advanced aliens), Mew is the Martian Manhunter (Pokemon could be from Mars right?), Team Starfox are the Blackhawks (elite freelance mercenary unit of pilots), and they all live on Earth 64.
** Braniac is either Andross or Mother-brain.
* No, Samus is Iron (Wo)man. Oh wait, that's Marvel.
* Pit is Hawkman. Okay, now I'll stop.
* And Meta Knight is...um...hrm...''[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]]''!!
** That doesn't make sense, as Meta Knight and Kirby are both Nintendo characters from the get-go. As Kirby shows signs of imitation of Link, who is Batman, when he has a Sword power, Kirby is Robin, and batlike Meta Knight, a darker mentor to Kirby, is Nightwing.
*** No, no, Meta Knight is simply a Kirby who has swallowed a Batman.
* Wait, since "Toon Link" is the successor to regular Link, that makes ''him'' Robin. Kirby would be Green Arrow. Evidence: Green Arrow's arsenal contains a near-infinite assortment of arrows, including boxing glove arrows and bubbly fire-extinguisher arrows, which match up perfectly to Kirby's Fighter and Bubble powers.
** Alternatively, "Toon Link" is the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Terry McGinnis]] to Link's Bruce Wayne.
*** Kirby is ''obviously'' an organic AMAZO.
**** Considering how Kirby is a Warpstar Knight, he may be the analogue of another interplanatary law-enforcement officer -- Green Lantern.
***** Which would make Meta Knight one too...
****** To be exact, Meta Knight would be Sinestro.
* Ganondorf is Darkseid. This is fun!
** Considering that Ganondorf is Link's arch-enemy, he'd probably be the alternate of a Bat-foe. The only one who fits him, though, would be Bane.
*** Ra's Al Ghul would be a better fit -- immortal meglomaniac with a sweet cape (needs to be a trope), and a love of engaging the hero in dramatic climactic swordfights? Obviously, skull-kid is scarecrow, while the Dekus and Gorrons are races progenated by the benevolent counterparts of Posion Ivy and Clayface respectively.
* Also, Pikachu is Flash.
** No, Sonic is a Goku/Flash combo-{{Expy}}. Pikachu is Static. That's even the name of his ability.
*** Nah, Captain Falcon is Flash. Pikachu is Thor.
**** No. Captain Falcon is god.
* But doesn't that make Dr. Mario Clark Kent?
* I kind of want to say that following this logic, the [[VideoGame/EarthBound Chosen Four]] ''must'' be the Comicbook/{{Runaways}}... but then I remember they're Marvel and I brainfart.
* And would this make Olimar Squirrel Girl? I mean, a character who uses his many small minions to defeat opponents who are much stronger in canon?
** No, as she is of Marvel, and Pikmin was a 1st party game. Judging from his ability to command legions of plantlike creatures, who become more powerful by being around him, he's a good alternate version of Poison Ivy, more limited in abilities because Main/GoodIsDumb.
*** He's Poison Ivy [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] who, due to Hocotatian DNA corruption, ended up male and benevolent.
**** Two words: Swamp Thing. Space changed him.
* Having played sub-space emmissary, and taking the above into account this troper can now confirm that Master Hand is the Monitor, Crazy Hand is the Anti-monitor, and Tabuu is Superboy Prime -- he was the protagonist of a game that Nintendo never got around to making (possibly Project H.A.M.M.E.R), and like Superboy-Prime, is taking his revenge on the core universe for his lost chance to be a hero.
* Luigi... let's see... same powers as Superman/Super Mario, except weaker and faster, with a completely different attitude... would that make him Supergirl? Sheesh, Luigi can't catch a break even in WMG...
** He could also be Mon-El...
** I'd suggest Krypto, only now I've got the mental image of Luigi saying, in a London accent, "Oh my God, I'm the caped dog!"
** He could be Captain Marvel, a thinly-veiled Superman Expy that DC later bought the rights to.
*** The Krypto analogue is most likely Yoshi... Damn it! Now I have the mental image of Yoshi responding to all Mario's instructions with an electronic, slightly camp "YES MASTER".
* Bowser is a fusion of Pre-crisis Lex Luthor and Doomsday -- He has the former's meglomania, and penchant for insane schemes, but not his mad science skills (which seem to have gone to Bowser Junior), and the latter's physical power and immortality, but not his adaption abilities (note that lava hurts him in both the original Super Mario Bros, and Super Mario Galaxy).
** Which in turn would make Mario's cosmically mischievous, sparsely-appearing foe King Boo Mr. Mxyzptlk!
** Bowser seems more like a Darkseid to me: "I am many things, Mario - but here, I am a god!"; "I never settle. What I cannot have, I destroy.". Seriously, it writes itself.
* Solid Snake, then, would be the alternate of [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]]. Not sure why, but it seems to fit, and puts Snake distinctly outside of normal canon (but within easy reach for a crossover).
* The Ice Climbers are, of course, the Wonder Twins.
* Tabuu would be a malevolent [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]]... ''with butterfly wings''.
** And Porky is Ozymandias, Lucas is Nite Owl, and Ness is Rorschach.
*** Tabuu is almost certainly the Anti Monitor.
* All I want to know is when we're going to see Nintendo VS Mortal Kombat.
* Since they're both joke characters, would Mr. Game & Watch be Ambush Bug?
** Maybe Mr. Game & Watch is the incarnate of all pre-Superman comic book characters.
*** Specifically, Mr. Game & Watch is the first comic ''strip'' character: Yellow Kid!
*** I say Mr. Game & Watch is Martian Manhunter. He's from another world, he changes shape, doesn't speak much (even by Nintendo standards - he just beeps), and his world (the Game & Watch Series/Black & White 2D simple games) is kind of dead. Plus he doesn't exactly have a place outside of Smash Bros. Alternatively - Elongated/Plastic Man.
* I guess this makes Mega Man...Optimus Prime?\
** Nah, he's an amalgamation of the Metal Men, keeping with the DC theme.
* Someone really should make this WMG into a webcomic.
* This troper sorts it out something like this, along with the reasons stated above:
** Mario: Superman - Main most iconic hero, variety of powers, PrimaryColorChampion
** Luigi: Captain Marvel - Same powers, deliberate expy
** Peach: Lois Lane
** Bowser: Lex Luthor/Doomsday
** Yoshi: Krypto
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume)
*** Or Bizarro, (In WarioLand Overalls costume seeing that Wario is the opposite of Mario)
** Link: Batman (No intrinsic powers but tenacity, wit, tons of gadgets. Equally iconic to the brand as Mario / Superman)
** Toon Link: Batman (Terry as a younger person that takes up the mantle of the Hero generations later)
*** Or Bat-Mite (as a cartoony version of a serious character)
** Zelda: Barbara Gordon, with the slower and more intelligence-based Zelda form being Oracle, and the speedier and more physical Shiek being Batgirl
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al Ghul
** Samus: Wonder Woman Main female hero, during the MetroidPrime era was often seen as a third to Mario and Link.
** Fox: Green Lantern Hal Jordan Inter-planetary peacekeeping squadron
** Falco: Green Lantern John Stewart
** Wolf: Sinestro
** DK: Aquaman (King of a biome)
** Diddy: Aqualad
** Mr. Game And Watch: Vintage Superman - Old
** Captain Falcon: Flash - Super Speed, flashy personality
** Kirby: Amazo
** Meta Knight: OMAC
** Dedede: Penguin
** Pikachu: Static
** Jigglypuff: Shebang
** Pokemon Trainer: Will Magnus
*** Pokemon are the Metal Men
** Lucario: Soul Power
** Marth: Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)
** Ike: Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
** Olimar: Martian Manhunter - Stranded on earth
** Pit: Green Arrow - Archer
** Ice Climbers: Wonder Twins - Twins
** Ness: Hawkman
** Lucas: Warhawk
** R.O.B.: Red Tornado
** Snake: John Constantine
*** Alternately, if third party=Marvel, Snake could be Agent Venom. I dunno, it just seems to fit.
*** Or, he could be Captain America.
** Sonic: Spider-Man (as rival company's most iconic hero, popular by being a witty teen in contrast to Mario/Superman's clean cut adult)
*** Or Goku (as Comics vs. Manga counterpart, since Sonic even has WordOfGod DragonBall influences)
** Villager: Jimmy Olsen
** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man)
*** Or Astroboy (if third party = Anime/Manga with Sonic as Goku)
** Wii Fit Trainer: Black Canary
** Rosalina: Dr. Light
** Little Mac: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Muhammad_Ali Muhammad Ali]]
*** Either that or the Atom (Al Pratt)
** Tabuu: Anti Monitor
** Master Hand: The Spectre
** Crazy Hand: Parallax
*** Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo; Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
[[WMG: In response to the DC comics connection above]]
If Mario is Superman then Sonic is a composite mixture of the Superman [[CaptainErsatz clones]].
* Goku
** Super Sonic transformation similar to Super Saiyan
* Sentry
** Dark Sonic form similar to The Void
* Captain Marvel "Shazam"
** Manga Sonic was a kid who transformed.
** Captain Marvel moved from a smaller publisher to DC comics, Sonic primarily makes Nintendo games [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 with troubled exceptions]]. But in the past they were rivals to the other company.
[[WMG: Lucario is a [[DragonBall Saiyan]].]]
No, he is not a Pokemon. Even in the Pokemon universe, he secretly belongs to a race of Saiyans. Seriously, [[http://img525.imageshack.us/i/1215198418lucariosmashtm9.jpg/ Just look at his final smash.]]
* If so, he must be Sonic's minion, as he has never been able to become a Super Saiyan as Sonic does.
* Lucario replaced Mewtwo by killing him in a seven-episode-long battle, after he discovered that Mewtwo was related to Frieza, the destroyer of the Saiyan homeworld.
* If you guys are just kidding, sorry, but SERIOUSLY. He was just VOICE-acted by Vageta. And the aura....
[[WMG: Mewtwo is [[DragonBall Z Frieza]].]]
Both have a white/whitish and purple color scheme, both use telekinesis, both are uber powerful, they both have tails.... Coincidence? I think ''NOT!''
* And he was replaced by Lucario who is similar to -- and voice acted by the same person as -- Goku.
** Alt theory... he could be another one of Frieza's race.
[[WMG: Tabuu isn't evil.]]
This is actually the basis for a Fanfiction I want to write at some point with alot of alternate dimension stuff, so watch out for brainfarts.
Tabuu is from an alternate universe, where instead of there being a creative and a destructive force, Tabuu is both at once. Since this is an alternate version of the Brawl universe, all the characters in this alternate world are similar but different. Maybe he's a Nintendo fan, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
Whatever the case, Crazy Hand makes the subspace dimension, which explains its destructive power, and uses it as a bridge between dimensions. Crazy heads into Tabuu's world and forces him into subspace, then closes the portal behind him, explaining why Crazy isn't in the Brawl storyline.
Then Tabuu appropriately goes mad and uses subspace to get revenge by destroying what he thinks is Crazy's universe; in a way, he chose the right place, but destroying it would only make Crazy happier. Anyway, Tabuu starts his evil plan to destroy Crazy's own personal world using the power of the subspace dimension, and meanwhile Crazy is tearing his universe into confetti. The reason why Tabuu doesn't destroy things, and instead creates the "great maze", is because he's trying to rebuild his own universe. Of course, the Heroes trophify/destroy him, and before Subspace closes, Crazy returns through it. Essentially dooming a entire universe forever with his power.
Crazy just destroyed a universe and got away with it. While Tabuu tried to BUILD one and got destroyed.
Bet you feel a bit guilty now.
* Nnnope.
* But since the characters obviously have some sort of communication (how else did Lucario and Meta Knight convince Snake to help them?), Tabuu should have been able to explain. They knew Crazy Hand was missing, so that part, at least, was believable. Furthermore, why didn't he just steal building materials from the various worlds?
** For the second question: He kinda was. For the first: Since we're assuming the smashers communicate without talking, then we don't know if Tabuu was doing the same, and the Smashers [[BloodKnight just]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy didn't]] [[MoralDissonance care]].
* He didn't bother to try explaining himself, he made evil clones, was the man behind various ''villains,'' and there's the whole "mass slaughter of R.O.B.s via Subspace Bomb detonation" bit. Yeah, I still enjoyed beating him down.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are controlled by the next evolution of Wham Bam Rock.]]
First we had Wham Bam Rock in ''Kirby Super Star'', with stone hands that did a lot of the things that Master Hand does, swatting, smashing, grabbing, etc. Then in Kirby Super Star Ultra, we get Wham Bam Jewel, who upgrades to using Master-Hand style finger gun moves and such. He will most likely continue to escalate his form until he reaches a godlike amount of power, perhaps with a wish from NOVA, and become Wham Bam Master.
[[WMG: Master and Crazy Hand are the Mirror Universe versions of Wham Bam Rock.]]
In a parallel to the above, we see Master and Crazy Hand in the Mirror World in ''Kirby: The Amazing Mirror''. The Mirror World has opposite copies of several Kirby characters: Kirby himself, [[spoiler:Meta Knight]], and Whispy Woods (King Golem) to name a few. Wham Bam Rock is a deity-looking stone idol with unattatched hands made of stone. Master and Crazy hand ''are'' deities with perfectly humanlike hands. Both have very similar attack patterns, although Wham Bam tends to use falling stones more than lasers. Just close enough to be fitting, and yet worlds apart in implementation.
[[WMG: Tabuu is [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]].]]
Blue, bald, terrifyingly powerful. Doctor Manhattan states his intention to create humanity before leaving at the end of ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''. Tabuu creates the Primids. Possibly, the long, lonely trip through space has made him insane, possibly to the point of hallucinations and delirium, hence the destruction the Subspace Army causes and the aggression towards the player characters.
* If only [[spoiler:Rorschach]] had timed his dodges right...
* Actually, he's a program '''written''' by Dr Manhattan, which is why he looks kinda like him, because {{Tron}} looked like his creator too.
* If he was Manhattan, that does raise the question of what happened to his... y'know... I mean, Tabuu's naked as Manhattan always is, but he doesn't have the ''parts.'' Did he cut them off or something?
[[WMG: Nintendo and Microsoft are secretly allied.]]
They plan to take down Sony by hoarding all the good games, splitting them between each other. The fact that the XBox is releasing KatamariDamacy and [[Franchise/MetalGear Metal Gear Solid]] games only serve to confirm this.
This really doesn't belong here, but the other place I have it is hard to find.
[[WMG: The SSB world is a CrapsackWorld.]]
Think about it. They are all kept as slaves, only released out of their trophy forms to fight in front of thousands as entertainment. The SSE is the chronicle of their escape, and SSE army is trying to reclaim them back.
[[WMG: SSE is a parable encouraging harmlessly weird hobbies.]]
Master Hand is still the avatar for a collector of Nintendo trophies, but he isn't a child anymore. He's a grown man, and pressure from the outside world, represented by Tabuu, has made him try to break with his "childish" past. He stops displaying his collection in his living room, starting with Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link; eventually, he gets into a shouting contest with a close friend about his hobby, set off by the Ganondorf trophy. The friend says that such things are childish and that he should focus on more adult things. At this point he gives up and puts the whole collection in storage, and Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link are broken or lost by the move.
Some time later, he finds the King Dedede, Ness, and Luigi trophies. Hit with waves of nostalgia, he decides to look into the online presence of trophy collectors and finds a surprisingly active and friendly community -- people the same age as him, even. He's finally inspired to bring the collection out of storage by someone whose favourite trophy is Sonic. He gets into further arguments now and then, but Tabuu's wings have been clipped, and Master Hand shines even brighter for it. He then goes and buys Toon Link and Wolf.
** If this is the case, then Tabuu (Taboo) is a MeaningfulName.
[[WMG:In the Brawlverse, King Dedede is a pimp.]]
* Evidence 1: 3 of his costumes are stereotypical "pimp colours" (Pink, Baby blue, and Purple) and his normal outfit is red, which means he flies the flags of a Blood. He also has the {{Playboy}} logo on the back of his Pimp coat.
* Evidence 2: When he trophyfies Luigi, which is his way of making you a hoe, he gives him a pimp slap, to show him who's boss.
* Evidence 3: He puts two buttons on Ness and Luigi but sacrifices his own to put in on a Princess, because they would generate the most profit.
* Evidence 4: In the SSE, he lives in the Playboy Mansion.
* Evidence 5: When Bowser wrecks Dedede's mansion, Dedede looks up and just lets a huge concrete block knock him out, obviously because he smoked one too many doobies and it messed up his reflexes.
* Evidence 6: As soon as all the fighters are beaten by Tabuu, the badges activate, because that means he was not one to buy the services of his ladies.
* Evidence 7: He pimp slaps Bowser in the face, which automatically makes Bowser shut up, evidence of a strong Pimp hand.
* Evidence 8: He throws his hoes at you.
** Okay, that made me crack up. Hoe-Throw attack...
[[WMG:The Crazy Hand is the kid's wanking Hand.]]
* Which is why he is crazy.
** That doesn't sound right to me -- That's about the age you ''stop'' playing with toys. Unless this kid has some weird, weird interests.... Rule 34 and all that... But if that were true, the game wouldn't be about Nintendo Characters ''fighting.''
*** Which is why he doesn't show up until ''Melee'' -- at which point the kid has entered middle school and is having trouble putting away his toys/experiencing an awkward sexual awakening. By the time he's in high school, he's done with the toys and has settled for writing Nintendo crossover fanfiction (SSE), which in turn explains why Crazy Hand doesn't show up in SSE.
*** Somehow, the introduction of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl, along with Zelda's more realistic design, only reinforces that for me.
*** This goes along perfectly with the concept of Master Hand and Crazy Hand being the hands of Christian Weston Chandler.
[[WMG:Tabuu is a [[{{Tron}} program]] created by [[KingdomHearts Master Xehanort]].]]
* They look exactly alike; Tabuu has the neon glow. Also helps that ''Tron'' has been a world in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. And that the two games happen to share a scenario writer. This, of course, has the supplementary WMG that ''Brawl'' is in fact a game on Ansem's computer network, because his apprentices loved to have late night Smash Bros. marathons.
** This troper now imagines Xehanort, Lord of TheHeartless, using Dark-Toon Link in a game against Sora, who's using Kirby... hilarious.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are VideoGame/{{Rayman}}.]]
They have no visible support. They're like white gloves. They're right and left. Yeah. They're Rayman.
[[WMG: The whole "the Smashers exist only to fight" in the backstory is simply an allegory for their status as video game characters.]]
[[WMG: Lucas came to [[RealLife our world]] and became famous.]]
OK, first, consider the character of Lucas himself. His name is ''Lucas'', his symbol is a ''planet'', his hairstyle is... well, let's say it's ''distinctive'', and he fights with a mystical energy that surrounds us all. He comes from the world of ''Earthbound'' / ''Mother'', which has very strong ties to alien mythology, so we know he was exposed to that kind of story from an early age.
Next, Lucas gets thrust into the Smashverse. There, he's a young kid who is not very corageous, but in the Subspace Emissary he learns to man up and do the right thing for the common good after Ness cares for him, and he decides to go on an adventure to avenge him.
In the Smashverse, he also learns (and meets, of course) a group of people devoted to protecting a huge multiverse from a tyrannical ruler. These people (the other smash characters; Mario, Link, Samus, etc.) have extraordinary abilities, but they're up against a group with similar abilities that uses them for evil. Also, note that there are many more good guys than bad guys in the Smashverse.
OK, now fast-forward to AfterTheEnd of the Subspace Emissary, when everything has been saved. Lucas, now an expert at leaping from universe to universe, comes to ''[[RealLife our world]]'', where he grows into an adult. He still has fond memories of all his adventures as a child, but realizes that in this world nobody would accept them as truth. So he writes the whole thing over again, changing the setting and a couple of names, and so it comes to pass that Lucas, first name [[GeorgeLucas George]], creates [[StarWars a pop culture phenomenon]].
See, in ''StarWars'', Luke, who is obviously another name for Lucas, has blond hair and lives a simple life until Empire agents attack the Lars Homestead. This is exactly what happened to Lucas; he was a blond-haired kid who led a simple life until an agent of the Empire, in this case Wario, attacked and "killed" someone he cared for, thus sending Lucas on a quest to avenge him.
In ''StarWars'', the main villain is a tall guy in black who wears a long flowing cape, but then turns out to be controlled by a hunched and even more evil figure who was controlling everything from behind the scenes. Ganondorf obviously translated into Darth Vader, whereas Tabuu was the Emperor.
The "good guys" in the Smashverse translated into the Jedi Council, whereas the "bad guys" became the Sith. Notice that in the ''StarWars'' universe, there are only ever two Sith, the master and the apprentice. This is exactly the same as in the Smashverse; Ganondorf serves Tabuu (or his puppet the Master Hand), but there are many subordinates doing their dirty work, such as Wario and Bowser. Bowser in particular is clearly General Grievous, because he transforms his victims into trophies and then uses their "evil trophies" for his own good. General Grievous steals and uses the lightsabers of fallen Jedi.
I rest my case.
* Even though this is about the most far-fetched thing I have ever read, I congratulate the troper who created this for having such an imagination.
** Why, thank you! I wrote a more extended joke essay where I plotted out both stories directly, noting the similarities, ("coincidence!? I think not!") and gave every ''Smash'' character a ''StarWars'' expy that matches, but that's too long to put it up here.
* First, I want to say that was awesome. Second, there is some kind of thing that you can put long things into on this site. Like it's a little button that says "long" and when you click it, it expands and your long essay or whatever is inside. I'm not sure how to make one though. If you look on the Franchise/SuperMarioBros page, I think you can see some and just edit to see how to make it.
* Ganondorf is Darth Vader? ''Ganondorf''? To say nothing of [[AngstySurvivingTwin his]] [[LukeIAmYourFather brother]]?
* That kind of thing happened in Lucas's own game, too! IT'S TRUE!
[[WMG: Tabuu was created from an unintentional crossover of the Creator/{{Nintendo}} verse and the SquareEnix verse.]]
The [[KingdomHearts Heartless]] were invading the {{Tron}} world when some sort of universal shift occured, spawning several powerful [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Noise]]. These Heartless/Noise possessed/attacked a computer program, which was written into the Nintendo verse. Thus we have Tabuu, who looks like a Tron program, creates creatures that look suspiciously like Heartless, and has Noise-like wings.
[[WMG: The Home Run Bat is the Casey Bat from ''VideoGame/EarthBound''.]]
It's a baseball bat with supreme power tempered by the fact that it's wildly inaccurate, missing at least 75% of the time due to the slowness of the smash (or SMAAAAASH) attack.
[[WMG:Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are actually [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante, Trish, and Lady]] respectively.]]
* Perhaps it was a VERY slow business night, no jobs needing doing and what have you. So they perhaps got some action figures out of Dante's secret drawer, figures which Dante and Vergil used to play with when they were kids. Call it killing time. And since this is [[CrazyAwesome DANTE]] we're talking about here, awesome can only ensue.
[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[FatalFury Terry Bogard]], [[VideoGame/ArtOfFighting Ryo Sakazaki]], and [[TheKingOfFighters Kyo Kusanagi]], respectively.]]
They're having a fight to see who becomes SNK's mascot.
[[WMG: The Void of VideoGame/SuperPaperMario and Subspace are one in the same.]]
They both exist between realities, have a [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple-black color scheme]], eat worlds, have a theme of overall emptiness, and a slight CosmicHorrorStory feel if you [[FridgeLogic think about it for a while]].
* And also Luigi's negative zone.
[[WMG: Suda51 created the graphics for the subspace emissary]]
Suda51 of ''Killer7'' and ''NoMoreHeroes'' was the one who did the graphics for the subspace emissary, specifically the purple world eating blob things. ''Killer 7'' had similar effects when an enemy was shot. Suda51's name is in the credits.
[[WMG: The Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are all elements of the kid's personality.]]
Master Hand is the side of him that likes creation and is responsible for creating the smash universe, Crazy hand is the destructive side of his personality that makes him want to force his trophies to fight over and over, and Tabuu is the side of him that knows how weird his hobby is. The Subspace Emissary is a metaphor for when he decides to put up his trophies for good (represented by Tabuu defeating Master Hand), but eventually deciding to bring them all out of storage.
[[WMG: The stages of all three games were brought to Smash World by way of Subspace Bombs.]]
Sections of Mushroom Kingdon, Hyrule, Planet Zebes, etc. (and Alaska) were pulled into Subspace by ROBs with Subspace Bombs. You get ring outs when you touch the walls of the bubbles they're in. This is also why the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule look different in every game they've appeared in.
[[WMG: The Smashers are professional wrestlers.]]
Nintendo's characters came together and decided to get into wrestling, creating fictional characters and storylines for themselves; they aren't really enemies, just faces and heels.
* This is why they all have grabs and holds.
* Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, and Young Link retired their characters.
* And why matches only end by ring outs? Because instead of staging mat wrestling or mixed martial arts, the Nintendo characters decided to be different and stage over the top sumo wrestling.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are YOUR HANDS!]]
* My hands do not shoot out lasers and bullet bills, thank you very much!
** Mine do, if I drink 2,000,000 truckloads of redbull.
[[WMG: Tabuu is [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] reincarnated..]]
* He wants to reshape the world to his liking.
* [=ROBs=] are completely expendable, and not part of his New World.
* Mr. Game & Watches are just weapons.
* Everything was created for Tabuu.
[[WMG: The ''Subspace Emissary'' is a TakeThat to Modern Gaming.]]
It explains why the landscape is so [[RealIsBrown bland]], most of the music is over-the-top orchestrations, a lot of epic character moments, and tons of gunplay action. It also explains why Mario, Link, Samus, Snake, and Kirby had such enormous roles, since they were characters from TheEighties, in which gaming wasn't about spectacular graphics or high-end commercializing, but simply about goofing around and having fun. However, it also mocks really old gaming, as ROB and Mr. Game & Watch are villains.
* You call [[SceneryPorn those backgrounds]] bland?
* Kirby's first video game appearance was in 19''9''2 -- but then again, his first game was on the Game Boy, and gaming wasn't really about amazing graphics in the early '90s either...
[[WMG: Master Hand is actually [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]], and he's trapped in subspace.]]
Think about it. Japan created PacMan, Mario, Franchise/MetalGear, Mother, and Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, all games spanning different genres and stories, whereas the only thing Americans created were games like Franchise/{{Halo}}, [[SpyroTheDragon Spyro]], SpaceInvaders, and many other games in which all you basically did was kill things. However, [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]] was one of the very few on the west that could impress the Japanese because the games he made were mostly built around ''creating'' things, like [[VideoGame/SimCity cities]], [[VideoGame/TheSims families]], and even [[{{Spore}} cute little critters]]. Hence, since Wright likes to create universes, he was "reincarnated" in the game world as Master Hand. However, the Nintendo characters feared his presence because while he did manage to create, he could also destroy.
So by the time we're in the Subspace Emissary, Tabuu is actually the representation of what American gamers want; to create havoc upon various worlds. However, because Master Hand (Wright) was able to earn some appreciation and respect with the characters (the different parts of the world), and Tabuu just controlled Master Hand to convince whoever wanted to pay attention that creating subspace zones were "creating things". This, of course, would lead the other characters to notice that something was dreadfully wrong, and well, it explains why people like Mario a lot again...
* One problem: Dr Wright's assist trophy.
[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[TimeCrisis Wild Dog]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Arche Klein]], and [[MortalKombat Shao Kahn]] respectively.]]
* Smash Bros doesn't HAVE to make sense.
** Furthermore, WMG's don't have to make sense.
[[WMG: Tabuu is secretly Bloo from FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends.]]
[[WMG: SSE is the Series/DoctorWho universe, in which the Doctor has turned evil.]]
OK, here we go, because we don't have a detailed example yet- Tabuu is the Doctor, turned evil for some reason yet to be explained, and Master Hand is the Master under his control, just as he initially intended. The Shadow Bugs are an alternate form of the Toclafane. The [=ROBs=] are an as-yet unknown hybrid of a Cyberman and a Dalek, making Ganondorf a physically superior Davros who does not need a wheelchair. Kirby is the Abzorbaloff. Ridley is a Reaper/Chronovore. Sonic is the meta-crisis doctor (all in blue, of course) who has dimension jumped to stop Tabuu. The Halberd is the Valiant. The actual world of SSE is Wales, the floating island is just Cardiff, and subspace is the rift. The Halberd is the Vanguard. Captain Falcon is actually Captain Jack, and Olimar is Ianto, and the other 'mercenaries' (Fox, Falco, Snake, Samus) are other members of Torchwood. Zelda is Gwen Cooper, and Link (Rhys) is accepting of her undercover persona Sheik. The Pokemon are all soldiers in UNIT, mooks that do their master's bidding. Peach is Sarah Jane Smith, and Mario is a humanoid form created for Mr. Smith. Yoshi is K9, and Luigi is actually the Trickster. That's all I can think of for now, but feel free to add more...
* Alternatively, SSE is a Doctor Who/Stargate crossover: Tabuu is the Valeyard; The Doctor AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence after his final regeneration (Daniel Jackson); Samus is a regeneration of the Doctor's daughter (can't remember her name), who at an earlier point regenerated into Sam Carter; Snake is actually the result of a noodle incident involving Jack O'Neill, the Jack mini-me/clone made by Loki, and Todd; ROB is in fact Dalek Caan; King DeDeDe is Merlin; Ganondorf is a much younger Davros; Pit, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic are Timelords who opposed James Bond; the other Smashers or Tok'ra of the Wheeping Angels/SG Team members/Companions; and all the mooks and elite mooks are (evil)Time Lords/Daleks/Cybermen/Gou'ald/Wraith/(evil)Asgard; The Island of the Ancients did in fact belong to the Ancients ([[NeglectfulPrecursors why the hell do you think it was full of Subspace Bombs?!]])
[[WMG: The Brawl-verse is [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Subcon]].]]
Ever wondered why ''Subspace'' exists? The Subspace in [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 SMB2]] and the Subspace in Brawl are one and the same. The entire world in Brawl is the dream world twisted by Master Hand/Tabuu to put his plan into action. All the fighters are dream versions of themselves.
[[WMG:"The Kid" who is playing with his toys as Master/Crazy Hand is, in fact, [[VideoGame/IWannaBeTheGuy The Kid]].]]
He's playing with his toys in elaborate mock battles as part of his training to be The Guy.
* Right, except for the fact that there not a single shred of evidence to support this anywhere in either game. Or maybe it's the fact that the first Super Smash Brothers game came out years before ''I Wanna Be The Guy'' was released, let alone conceived!
** Yes, it's true that SSB came out before ''I Wanna Be The Guy''... but again, The Kid was doing it in ''preparation''. By the time IWBTG is released, it's already time for The Kid to go out and be The Guy. So what was he doing ''before'' it was time? That's right. Preparing.
* The Kid is young [[JakAndDaxter Jak]].
* No, no, The Kid is [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Mr. Mew]].
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. is {{Smosh}}. Master Hand is Anthony Padilla, Crazy Hand is Ian Hecox, and Tabuu is the Teleporting Fat Guy.]]
Anthony could be Master Hand because in most videos, he seems smarter and more creative than Ian, and Master Hand is smarter and more creative than Crazy Hand. Also, it is not easy to pressure him into doing things (in "Going to the Mountains," it was said he is immune to peer pressure), but if someone forces him to do something (Tabuu forcing Master Hand to do his bidding), he will do it. This would also explain why Master Hand would rule over a land where figurines come to life, as Anthony's favorite movie is Toy Story.
Ian is Crazy Hand because in most videos (especially Food Battle 2008), he seems very angry and destructive, but not very smart.
When the Teleporting Fat Guy teleports with his Nintendo Power Glove, there is a flash of light that is almost the same color as Tabuu. Perhaps his Power Glove malfunctioned and trapped him in Subspace in a form made of hard blue light. Over the years, he could have grown angry at Nintendo for creating the Power Glove that trapped him there, so he decided he would trap all of Nintendo's characters and their world in Subspace.
* Jossed. Super Smash Bros. has genuinely funny moments.
[[WMG:Sonic was sent by Crazy Hand, who had no knowledge of King Dedede's GambitRoulette.]]
As many have noticed ([[X2X This Troper]] included), Crazy Hand was suspiciously absent for the entire run of SSE. There were no hints of his presence, even though his brother/alter-ego/[[EvilCounterpart crazier opposing force of nature]]/other half/whatever spent the entire game forced under Tabuu's servitude via Chains of Light. Then came the (somewhat) unexpected JustInTime [[BigDamnHeroes Big Damn Hedgehog]] moment from Sonic...
Crazy Hand is definitely one unhinged character. His EvilLaugh instead comes off as LaughingMad and his fingers twitch ad infinitum, unlike the more composed stance of Master Hand. Although many of his moves [[UpToEleven ramp up]] the crazy factor (to the point that he "spider walks" and has hand spasms that create seismic waves), Crazy Hand is ''more of a threat'' than Master Hand.
When Master Hand was captured by Tabuu, Crazy Hand went into hiding. Sensing that all of the heroes were trophified by Tabuu's [[OneHitKill Off Waves]] (and not knowing of the Dedede Brooches), Crazy Hand searched for any other possible heroes that could help turn the tides. [[CallToAdventure The call was answered]] by Sonic, [[ChaoticGood a free spirit who won't stand by when evil is afoot]]. Apparently, Wolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff couldn't be bothered, because the former two [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack were out on an adventure]] and the latter was ''[[WhoWouldBeStupidEnough too busy practicing for a concert]]'' (that probably wouldn't even ''happen'' if Tabuu had his way). After pointing Sonic in the right direction (i.e. Subspace) and sending the Blue Blur on his way, Crazy Hand laid low again. After all, if Tabuu were to find him, he'd have control of both the forces of Order ''and'' Chaos. And well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck that would suck]]. Luckily, Dedede's GambitRoulette only served to ''bolster'' Crazy Hand's plan, as Sonic then teamed-up with the revived heroes and finally vanquished Tabuu, thus reuniting Crazy Hand with his brother.
Long story short, ObfuscatingInsanity ''at its finest''.
[[WMG:The "original" enemies in the Subspace Emissary are alternate universe versions of enemies from other games.]]
Glires and Roaders resemble Flamers and Wheelies from the ''Kirby'' series. Shellpods may look like giant beetles, but in every other way they could be related to Koopa Troopas. And if the Ticken -- a robot chicken that falls to bits and releases a tiny bird when you destroy it -- isn't a reference to the ''Sonic'' series, I don't know what is.
** I didn't even know that the puppits weren't ripped straight out of Twilight Princess when I saw them. And the location where they appear is suspiciously similar to the Sacred Grove, complete with dimension doors to parallel the time door.
[[WMG: Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu.]]
(Original title was "Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu and Jigglypuff")
Or maybe I'm just a sucker for romance in a fighting game. Go figure.
* Actually, that does make a lot of sense.
* ...but by Pokemon rules, [[GenderEqualsBreed it means the original Pikachu would have to have been female]], and Jigglypuff male.
* Pikachu/Ditto anyone? I'm writing a fic to "celebrate" HGSS and Generation V. Consider this: Pikachu is top tier in [=SSB64=], as well as second tier in Pokemon battles, but only when holding the Light Ball... which is needed to get a Pichu Volt Tackle. By breeding with a Ditto (or another Pikachu or Raichu) Pikachu could be Pichu's father.
** As a follow up to the above, Pikachu is based on Ash's Pikachu from the anime, which wasn't confirmed male until after Melee came out, but before Brawl. Therefore, Pikachu in SSB64/SSBM could have been female.
** Considering Pikachu's Final Smash is Volt Tackle, which only Pichu can get (through breeding), this makes a bit of sense.
*** Except the Pichu in Melee is from second-gen. Volt Tackle didn't exist then.
[[WMG:The Subspace Emissary storyline originally had Master Hand weakening Tabuu so the other fighters could beat him.]]
The ''real'' reason Sonic is absent for so much of Subspace Emissary is because he was a very late addition to the game, stuck in when most of the story had already been completed and introducing him earlier would have necessitated throwing out a huge chunk of what was already present. However, based on events leading up to the final battle, it's pretty clear that ''someone'' or ''something'' needs to weaken Tabuu in some way to make it defeatable.
Master Hand features prominently in the storyline, even though you never get to fight it. Its corpse is clearly visible when the characters enter Tabuu's inner sanctum, so it seems like the writers originally intended it to play some role in the final battle. Furthermore, Master Hand is the only non-Tabuu antagonist whose name appears on-screen in a cutscene that doesn't team up with the heroes in the final battle. Rather suspicious.
There's also the fact that, well, even after being defeated by Tabuu, we can still see Master Hand's corpse. In all three games, when a player character defeats Master Hand, it sort of crumples up, withers, and fades away. This suggests that the corpse we see is still alive, but unconscious, perhaps because Tabuu still had some use for it.
Thus, it seems likely that the original script called for Master Hand to turn out to be NotQuiteDead, and use its lasers to cut Tabuu's wings, likely being incapacitated again by Tabuu at this point. When Sonic was added, the least disruptive way to stick him into the story was to cut Master Hand's final scene and let Sonic do it instead.
* This explains why Sonic can suddenly become a laser beam. They probably just let players assume that it was just Sonic at high speed; in reality, it could have been an attack from Master Hand, with Sonic noises edited in.
* Maser Hand's laser beams are continuous. If that was originally meant to be Sonic, it should have been a flash of blue, not on screen as long. Alternatively Geno; music of the maze where Geno is found was {{dummied|out}} off the disk and Geno also shoots blue lasers. It could have been both, even (two lasers were shot), but Square did not allow it, which led to Sonic getting shoehorned in.
[[WMG:The Pikachu in the original game died of old age prior to Brawl.]]
This is an extension of the earlier theory about the Pichu in Melee evolving. Basically, the Pikachu was in his prime during the original SSB, but, being a rodent, ages fairly quickly, and was on his last legs in Melee, explaining the significant nerf. Sometime between Melee and Brawl, he finally passed away, and the producers decided to evolve the Pichu from Melee and hope nobody noticed. Unfortunately, that required a Trainer to bond with, per how Pichu evolves in the Pokémon games, and after evolving, the now-Pikachu didn't want to leave the nice Trainer. As a compromise, they made him a character in Brawl.
* That or the nice Trainer is Samus, which dovetails nicely into the storyline.
* Pikachu have lived for 50+ years in canon. That makes this theory rather unlikely.
** In the anime, not the games. Smash Bros is mainly game based
[[WMG: Most of the stages in the series are [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]] versions of the characters' worlds.]]
Ever wondered why Luigi's Mansion is located on a floating island in the sky, unlike the actual game? The same goes with stages such as the original's Peach's Castle stage.
* Because they are table top the toys/trophies fight on modeled to look like a game world?
[[WMG: The world of Super Smash Bros. is only a small subsect of the {{MUGEN}} universe.]]
I think the title speaks for itself...
[[WMG: Master Hand will return and seek revenge.]]
In the next game's story mode, Crazy Hand will somehow get into Subspace and rescue Master Hand, who wasn't really dead, just unconscious and stranded. Master Hand will be angry that the characters who fought Tabuu did not find time to save Master Hand from Subspace, and he will create armies to get his revenge.
[[WMG: Tires don exits.]]
Or at least they're not supposed to. Except for Pichu being a JokeCharacter.
** Don't you mean "[[RougeAnglesOfSatin Tiers don't exist]]"? Still, that line is…funny in its own way.
** its an inside joke from the ssb forums.
[[WMG: Porky and his statue in this game are robots or Shadow bug clones.]]
This would explain him actually being here, as he [[spoiler:trapped himself in the Absolutely Safe Capsule for the rest of time.]]
Tabuu likely found out about him somehow, and not being able to bring the real thing to fight for him, had a substitute made. This could also explain why he doesn't look like the VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} Porky; the details weren't gotten quite right.
[[WMG: The Smash Brothers series is canon with all the series that cross over into it, and it is set in the Nintendo Universe's equivalent of [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who's Death Zone]].]]
Master Hand occasionally plucks several heroes out of time and space and places them into the Nintendo Death Zone in order to enjoy watching them fight, and then decides to fight them himself. As he is fond of the heroes and recognises them as such, he will always allow them to "defeat" him in battle and is never truly defeated. Tabuu and The Subspace Army then decided to invade the Nintendo Death Zone. Tabuu acquired the chains of light, which were powerful enough to contain Master Hand, and he wished to have control over it. The 'plucked from time' aspect also explains a few things. Firstly, Young Link and regular Link in Melee were both taken from the two time zones in Ocarina of Time. Toon Link and regular Link from Brawl were taken from VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] (as somehow, he can reach into numerous timelines). Mario is taken out of the events of VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine in Brawl, which is how he can have FLUDD on his back (even though FLUDD died). Wario's two alternate outfits are two versions of him from different times; Wario in his regular outfit is from his early appearances and in his ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' outfit from the events of one of those games. Dr. Mario was taken from the time of the game of the same name and this is why he and Mario can appear at the same time. The reason that at the start of the game Mario is seen as a trophy and is then thrown into the arena before coming to life is as follows: In Series/DoctorWho, with the arrival of a new Doctor in the Death Zone, the villian of the story recieved a small model of this Doctor which he placed onto a map where he wanted them to be. In the Nintendo Universe, it doesn't quite work the same, and when they are brought into the Death Zone, they initially appear as a giant trophy. Master Hand assures that the deaths of 'heroes' are not permanent by turning somebody into the easily revivabl, trophy form the second they would die; he does this because if they were to die in the Death Zone, it would be too damaging to the timeline. This also explains Sonic's appearance at the end of Brawl's storyline; Master Hand was free from his chains at this point and so decided that he would pluck another hero out of time in order for them to defeat Tabuu. Finally, just like Doctor Who, when they are returned to their original place in time and Space, their memory of the events is erased, which is why they are never referred to outside of the Smash Brothers series!
** [[BrickJoke F.L.U.D.D. didn't die.]]
[[WMG: Tabuu is a [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog Friend]]; Subspace is the Other Side.]]
He's second in command to [[{{Fantasia}} Chernabog]]. Just like the other Friends, he brings evil into the world by remotely manipulating other villains.
[[WMG: Captain Falcon is a [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Blaziken]] in disguise.]]
Think about it! All Pokemon in Smash Bros. have 4 true Pokemon moves between their Special moves and their Final Smashes. What are Captain Falcon's special moves? Neutral Special is a powerful punch that requires time to charge, and if the opponent attacks while it charges, it fails. Sounds like Focus Punch, doesn't it? His Side Special, when it connects, is a flaming punch, but not nearly as powerful as Focus Punch. Clearly this is Fire Punch. As for his Up Special, it seems like a Seismic Toss with a bit of flaming mixed in. And the clincher? His Down Special is a flaming kick. Obviously Blaze Kick! What Pokemon learns all these attacks and is famous for Blaze Kick? Blaziken.
* What about Infernape? It can learn all those moves too.
** It's Captain FALCON. Blaziken is bird-like.
[[WMG: Tabuu is actually a criminal who broke into Master Hand's house.]]
He ran in with a gun and held Master Hand hostage, forcing him to preform acts to benefit his needs. The person symbolizing Crazy Hand then proceeds to roundhouse him in the face and start fighting him until he falls down. Combine this with my above 'Nicholas and Tara' mini-theory for a better effect.
[[WMG: Sonic had never left subspace before the game.]]
For the sake of argument, this assumes that MH creates the trophies, imbuing them with the powers and memories of the original characters, then puts them in the World of Trophies to live their lives. He had just finished making Sonic when Tabuu grabbed him for his evil plan. Sonic wakes up in Subspace, not knowing where he is or how he got there, and wanders around for a bit until stumbling upon Tabuu and the others having a final battle.
[[WMG: The reason Luigi's Final Smash looks so weird is that, thankfully, YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.]]
It's [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Luigi in]] [[VideoGame/PaperMario a dress]] which, if rendered in full 3D with the Wii's capabilties, would [[BrownNote shatter the minds of every Smash player who witnessed it]].
[[WMG: Whoever programmed the minigame at the end of Brawl's Classic and All-Star modes really hates the in-game franchises.]]
You're shooting at the in-game characters. Enough said.
* ...you're shooting at the trophies and their pictures. Not the actual characters.
[[WMG: SSE is canon to the Pokéverse, taking place within Red/Green/Blue.]]
Just think of it. Red starts with Squirtle and later catches an Ivysaur and Charizard. He could have easily caught Pikachu after SSE, and he uses all four of them in the battle with him in G/S/C/HG/SS.
* Official artwork and ingame data implies his starter was a Bulbasaur in Gen 1 and a Charmander as of Gen 2, though.
[[WMG: Alternatively, SSE takes place within a Generation III/IV counterpart of Pokémon Yellow.]]
Red's starter was Melee Pikachu, who he raised the happiness of by spamming vitamins on her (remember, potions don't work at full health in Gen II and later.) Since Pikachu's happiness was so high, the girl in Cerulean City gave Red a Bulbasaur, but it ran away and evolved into Ivysaur, and was later captured during SSE. Squirtle was caught via the Mew glitch as Pikachu's Special Attack stat (the equivalent of the Gen I Special stat) was 177 as Pikachu was at level 89. Red then leveled Pikachu up three more times and Mew glitched again to reach ghost Missingno which increased his supply of Rare Candies to 128. He then bred Pikachu (who was holding a Light Ball) with a Ditto and hatched Melee Pichu, who eventually evolved into Brawl Pikachu after being fed a bunch of glitched Rare Candies.
Team Rocket later stole a Snag Machine and captured both Pikachu.
[[WMG: Red appears in the intro to the first game]]
The guy that walks by while Pikachu is rolling on a Pokeball. His shoes don't seem to match though..
* Maybe he doesn't have the running shoes yet. It was still Generation 1 after all in that time.
[[WMG: The World of Trophies is a reward for characters who have proved themselves popular enough.]]
When the heroes in the various worlds prove themselves popular enough, Master Hand, the embodiment of creativity, thus something that inspires the imagination enough would appeal to him, brings them to his world as reward. Justification: In the World of Trophies, most characters are pretty much immortal, they just get turned into trophies that can be revived in an instant by another character. The heroes can do as much good as they want and fight each other to prove themselves to one another, or just for fun, and they can go all out on the villains without a second thought because they can't kill them. Meanwhile, the villains can actually WIN and not pay for it, the heroes just get revived so they won't get bored from missing their rival, the world doesn't end ether, so that's nice. The non-Smasher bosses (other than the ones Tabuu made himself) are simply there to keep the Smashers entertained, and are brought back if killed. Master Hand is stated to wait for them to fight him, which is to test their power.
[[WMG: Tabuu is an out of control creation of Master Hand.]]
See above point. Master Hand creates challenges to keep the Smashers and himself entertained. He got bored with the existing villains so in the first game, he revived Bowser as Giga Bowser for something new. Then, when Giga Bowser got boring, he gave the power to normal Bowser and started on something new. He made Tabuu but made him too powerful, so Tabuu turned on him and decided to conquer Master Hand's domain for himself.
[[WMG: The reason why Snake says he doesn't like Sonic in his codec message...]]
Before Sonic was confirmed, Snake was the only non-Nintendo character in Brawl, thus recieving glory and attention. When Sonic was confirmed, Snake was no longer the only non-Nintendo character, meaning Sonic took some (or more) of the limelight.
** It's actually a voice-actor in-joke. In Japanese, Snake is voiced by Ōtsuka Akio, who is the son of Ōtsuka Chikao, who provides the voice for Sonic's arch-nemesis, Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik.
[[WMG: After the events of Melee, Young link, and therefore the Adult Link from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] timeline were murdered by [[WebVideo/BenDrowned Ben]]. Being replaced by the Links from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]] timelines.]]
If you take in mind that each game's Link is a different person and that the Smash Bros universe is a CrisisCrossover then it makes sense that Link encounters his younger self and Links from alternate realities created by the Ocarina of Time. But then, why aren't the Ocarina of Time versions of Link no longer present in Brawl? Well, Young Link set out in his quest to find his friend and ends up in Termina, which itself is an alternate universe to Hyrule which has counterparts of evry person of Link's universe. Ben is this universe's Link, manifesting itself as a statue when Link plays the Elegy of Emptiness, which reveals the true nature of his soul. There seems to be an alignment revearsal too, with the Dekus being, while not outwardly friendly, civvilized and lawful and the Happy Mask Man being rather creepy compared to his Hyrule counterpart and often speculated to be evil. So Termina's Link, Ben, is the complete opposite, instead of a warrior of light who brings salvation, Ben is [[EldritchAbomination a horrifying dimensional warper destined to ultimately destroy Termina]].
Being bound to Link's soul the moment he entered Termina, Ben forces Link's unconcious to produce a temporal anomaly (known to us as the Fourth Day glitch) that would free himself from Link's soul and allow him to get Majora out of the way. After torturing Link, Ben removes Young Link from existance, which in effecr also destroy's Adult Link and his universe , for Young Link no longer exists to open the gates of The Temple Of Time and pull out the Master Sword. Master Hand got notice of the death of both Links and the possibility of Ben spreading across the Multiverse if he ever linked Termina to the Smash Bros Universe again, so he cut off Termina from Brawl and replaced the old Link with two Links from different timelines to prevent a time paradox from destroying another Universe. Master Hand also replaced the Zelda from the Destroyed universe but since Ganon had nobody to stop him in Young Link's universe (Which ended up in the Great Flood which gave birth to the Wind Waker timeline) and The Ganon from the future being sealed by the sages into another dimension, saving him from the Destruction of his Universe (to be later released back in Twilight Pribcess)), The Ganon we see in Brawl, is the same Ganon we see in Melee. That's right folks [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Ganondorf exploited Ben's actions to his advantage]].
[[WMG: Smash Balls are the exploded remains of Tabuu.]]
Tabuu is light blue and glowy, with some other colors thrown in when he uses a technique, like gold-ish. Smash balls are light blue and glowy, and the character who catches it's eyes turn gold-ish until it uses its Final Smash. Therefore, they must be related. LOGIC.
* But if that was so, wouldn't the smash balls have the subspace symbol instead of the smash symbol?
* Not if he's dead. What is the smash symbol anyway? The symbol of the non-subspace world? Maybe they were imprinted with it when he went blooey and bits of him fled through the recreated parts of the world.
[[WMG: {{Capcom}} will make their own Smash game.]]
Think about it. Capcom probably has the most recognized characters besides Nintendo. I Capcom were to make a Smash game featuring characters from the various VideoGame/MegaMan series, StreetFighter, VideoGame/DevilMayCry, ViewtifulJoe, DeadRising, Franchise/ResidentEvil, and all their other series, it would be pure awesome. And it could lead to a [[CapcomVsWhatever Nintendo vs. Capcom]].
* I'll like to see them throw in VisualNovel/AceAttorney, {{Okami}} and VideoGame/MonsterHunter. How ''do'' attorneys fight, anyway?
** [[FingerPokeOfDoom Objection!]]
** Capcom did actually create a sort of crossover game that only included characters from StreetFighter, ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' and RedEarth, name of ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' or Capcom Fighting Jam in other regions. It wasn't well recieved though.
[[WMG: Eventually, Smash will take it to the next step and crossover with a crossover, Super Robot Wars to be exact.]]
Then we get to play a fighting/strategy game where nintendo characters pilot giant mechs to fight each other. Just how awesome would that be?
** Metal Gear vs Gaogaigar? I would've bought that game.
* With Anime/CodeGeass and Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann announced as debuting in an upcoming ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'' game, one can only imagine what would ensue should Kirby inhale Simon or Lelouch.
** He become the spiral nemesis. OH SHI-
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a weird version of the VideoGame/TeamFortress2 universe.]]
In it, we have two long-standing video game rivals, Mario and Sonic, who are red and blue respectively. Much like the rival brothers Redmond and Blutarch. Red and Blue are also team colors, and various characters fill the roles of their TF 2 equivalents.
* Mario = Redmond Mann
* Sonic = Blutarch Mann
* Captain Falcon = Saxton Hale
* Tabuu = Zepheniah Mann
* Master Hand/Crazy Hand = Announcer
* Snake = Soldier
* Charizard = Pyro
* Ness = Scout
* R.O.B. = Engineer
* Ike = Heavy
* Wolf = Demoman
* Link = Sniper
* Lucario = Medic
* Meta Knight = Spy
[[WMG:The deleted characters from Melee had their trophies smashed.]]
* Except Roy is the only one who doesn't have an in-game trophy. And with the exception of Young Link (who is pretty much reincarnated in Toon Link anyway) and Pichu, they were all clearly intended to return but were scrapped due to time issues, according to unused game files.
** What do you mean, had their trophies smashed? As in they basically committed "suicide?" (Well, as well as a trophy can?) Please, if you mention Roy, neer suggest that again. I hope I'm wrong and misunderstanding you.
[[WMG:Master Hand is the embodiement of a child's imagination, Tabuu embodies an external force that wants to destroy it.]]
Tabuu can be seen as a parent, a teacher, older sibling, etc. who seeks to stop the child's activities because he/she finds them immature and pointless. Tabuu controling Master Hand is the attempt at forcing him to destroy his work. The characters in the game are the embodiement of the child's fantasies, which give him the strength to fight back and keep following his dreams.
[[WMG:Unfortunatley, there won't be another Super Smash Brothers game.]]
* Some of the marketing campaign poster's and merchandise had the words "the brawl to end them all". I do hope this doesn't happen, though.
** {{Jossed}}, as of E3 2011. The head honcho himself announced that there would be another Smash Bros. game for both the 3DS and the Wii (or was it the Wii U?).
[[WMG:The player characters are all [[VideoGame/CustomRobo Robos]].]]
* Like Robos, the charactes are mere inchs tall and controlled by unseen forces.
[[WMG:The next Smash bros. game will be called "Super Smash Brothers Free-for-All".]]
Considering the past names were "melee" and "brawl" and there aren't many more synonyms left.
* Rumble? Skirmish? Smackdown? Fray? Bout? Clash? Fracas? Quarrel? Ruckus? Scuffle? Tussle? ..."Disagreement"?
** How about Smash Bros. Riot? When I first got Brawl I liked the idea.
* Super Smash Brothers Swoon[[note]] Sorry We're Out of Names[[/note]]
** Heheh. For a second, [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar I thought]]…
** Smackdown and Rumble seem like good names, but chances are, the next smash brothers will probably just be called "Super Smash Bros 4"...[[BrokenBase otherwise, the fans will complain that they're running out of ideas.]]
* Super Smash Bros. Frenzy, maybe?
* I'm hoping for something like "Dairantou Smash Bros GX" for the Japanese name. "DX" and "X" are already used, and they used "GX" for FZERO once, so why not for the next Smash too? Heck, they can even bring it to Smash 4 for US! "Super Smash Bros GX"!
* Alternately, they'll take a cue from VideoGame/Left4Dead and name the game "Super Smash Bros. Free 4 All" instead of using the word "for." The story mode may also involve the characters, good and bad, organizing a revolution against an oppressive villain, created especially for the game.
* I think Smash Bros. Extreme would be cool.
* How about Super Smash Bros. Rampage?
[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer will have a deeper voice in the next game, and Link will be based off the newest incarnation.]]
The trophies are updated every game. Pokémon Trainer is based off Red in his Kanto journey, where he was eleven. He's fourteen in [=HGSS=], which was released after Brawl. That's a sizable time span for him to have at least entered puberty.
* Or it will be a different Pokémon Trainer...maybe [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold/Ethan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Brendan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Lucas]], or [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilbert]]?
* Or Red will return, and be mute like he's supposed to be.
** Red isn't mute, he's just a SilentProtagonist.
[[WMG: If Snake is in Super Smash Bros 4, he will [[ActorAllusion mistake]] [[EternalDarkness Alex]] for Samus, then offer the idea/be suggested to that Samus is her descendant.]]
Then the conversation will get into ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' style insanity to mirror insanity effects (Bonus points for Psycho Mantis/The Sorrow appearing).
-> '''Campbell[=/=]Paul''': I thought I told you to turn the game console off!
-> '''Snake''': ''This isn't... really...'' '''''happening!'''''
* The character of Colonel Campbell has been retired. Jossed.
[[WMG: Smash 4 will be a crossover with a crossover.]]
The question is...which one?
* My money's on KingdomHearts.
[[WMG: Smash 4 drop all third party characters.]]
Because Sakurai was weary on adding them, did not want to go farther than Snake and said three tops. Smash will be back to just Nintendo but another possible game may become a crossover.
* This would be for Nintendo's benefit since Brawl gave free advertisements to Nintendo's competitions as well as some low quality third party titles. With them out of the way their can be more future previews to stuff Nintendo will make profit on, such as when Melee had ProductionForeshadowing for Cubivore, Animal Crossing and the Game Boy Advance Fire Emblem.
** Jossed. MegaMan is was revealed to be playable. Further Jossed with Sonic's return potentially meaning Snake could return as well.
[[WMG: The Pokemon Trainer wasn't catching Ivysaur and Charizard for the first time.]]
They were already his Pokemon to begin with. They had been stolen and released (or escaped) from PT, and he needs to get them back. Why he has pictures of Ivysaur and Charizard is to show other people what they look like. Like "I'm searching for my lost Ivysaur and Charizard! They look like this! -shows picture-" It's why he's in the middle of nowhere by himself when Lucas runs into him, he's still searching for his Pokemon.
* To elaborate further, PT started with Charmander, it's why Charizard is the only fully-evolved Pokemon. He then traded with friends/whoever to get a Bulbasaur and a Squirtle. He went and trained Bulbasaur to an Ivysaur, and then the SSE trouble started and Ivysaur and Charizard were stolen away before Ivysaur could evolve further.
** And it's why all he has is a measly Squirtle to start with. And then he teamed up with Lucas, and then getting his own Pokemon back would be piece of cake!
* So why do Charizard and Ivysaur fight PT? Obviously they are effected by the negative energy of Subspace and are acting irrationally (or if they escaped don't want to be with PT and are trying to chase him away). That, or Subspace made them like [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Shadow Pokemon]] where they need to be "stolen/recaptured" again to begin trusting their trainer again.
** ...this IS WildMassGuessing, and I get bugged by how people are saying PT is trying to ''catch'' Ivysaur and Charizard. But yeah, it's what I think. -shrugs-
* If my dreams come true, several of my video game characters will be in the next Super Smash Bros. Game. I've already been thinking of a good plot for the next SSB game's adventure mode.
* That could explain why he only has 3 Pokemon instead of a full team. The other 3 were lost and never found.
[[WMG: [=SSB4=]'s roster will be the biggest yet]]
* This is actually the combination of three separate ideas I had:
--> 1. The Brawl roster will be reused for the next game.[[note]]No characters subtracted, of course.[[/note]]
--> 2. The Melee exclusive fighters will return.[[note]] This I based off of how the Mario Kart series drops racers for one game and brings them back the next; Koopa Troopa, Baby Mario and Baby Luigi, and Birdo are examples of this. ...[[CaptainObvious also, they were almost put into Brawl, then scrapped]]...[[/note]]
--> 3. Highly demanded fighters will be used.[[note]] The biggest example of this I can find is that Keiji Inafune said [[http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/22/no-mega-man-in-brawl-it-seems/ he wasn't asked permission to use Mega Man for Brawl]].[[/note]] [[spoiler: This is partily confirmed due to '''Mega Man being confirmed'''.]]
** And now we have four: There is talk from the creators about the possibility of downloadable content.
[[WMG: The game is a PostModern metaphor.]]
In the beginning of the first game, we see a hand, the Master Hand making the action figures fighting against each other and the final boss is the same Master Hand. Master Hand is the hand of the owner of the figures and the figures must [[RageAgainstTheAuthor defeat him]].
[[WMG: [[BanjoKazooie Banjo]], [[PerfectDark Jonna Dark]], [[VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay Conker]], and [[JetForceGemini Vela & Juno]] were meant to be characters in Melee.]]
But, due to {{Rare}} being bought out by {{Microsoft}} this idea was rejected. Evidence, is with the motion sensor bomb in Melee.
* The motion sensor bomb was in the original to but they were not. Lupus would be the only character from that last game getting in anyway.
[[WMG: Otacon's piloting the helicopter for Snake's Final Smash.]]
He's the only helicopter pilot on Snake's Codec roster. The whole Final Smash seems to be a shout-out to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', so why not have his partner in the driver's seat? This does make his conspicuous absence from the trophy ranks even more conspicuous, but that's a rant for another time.
[[WMG:In [=SSB4=], characters will...]]
* Be offered as DownloadableContent
* Have some exclusivity between WiiU and [[Nintendo3DS 3DS]]
* And be transferable between the two consoles.
* Stages and items (like Assist Trophies) are more likely. Sakurai of all people would know that making things as important as characters exclusive in some manner would seriously stagger the gameplay.
* The credits minigame will be on the controller as opposed to the big screen.
[[WMG: Jiro from the new game TheRollingWestern will be playable in [=SSB4=].]]
VideoGame/SuperSmashBros is, at its most basic level, an elaborate advertisement for Nintendo games. Any character's inclusion (in this case Jiro) will generate interest in that character's game(s). It's in Nintendo's best interest to advertise this new IP as much as possible.
[[WMG:The lost cutscene chronicling the Subspace Army stealing the Halberd was supposed to introduce Mr. Game & Watch.]]
This is why Mr. G&W doesn't have a subtitle appear at any point during the Subspace Emissary.
* Then why do Meta Knight and Dedede have ones?
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros 4 will include character banter before and after matches.]]
Why? Why not! Ok, a lot of the characters are HeroicMime, PokemonSpeak or such, but it would be cool.
** It would be interesting to see how characters from different worlds interact, but I don't know if they would actually do it.
[[WMG: No Melee exclusive character actually left.]]
Hear me out, really. Think about it:
* Little Link(Young Link) got an animation upgrade.
* Mewtwo is powerful enough to have made an illution and we just think he's Lucario.
** Or we were playing as a Ditto the whole time.
** Project M has now hacked Mewtwo into Brawl, along with Roy, so neither of them are truly gone.
* Pichu, of course, evolved.
* Dr. Mario... is Mario. Duh.
* And last but not least, Roy ''is'' Ike. Yah, yah, I'm crazy. But I've always had a theory tha Roy was Marth's 'adopted' brother at least, and Ike would be Marth's twin... despite the canon not allowing that. But still. Same general move-set, same hair minus colour.... maybe it's that Roy knew he'd be kicked out so he took a make-over and got a new name. Or maybe this is one troper's failure to except her favorite character has been tossed aside like a broken toy.
** Project M has now hacked Roy into Brawl, along with Mewtwo, so neither of them are truly gone.
[[WMG: Pit will return with some of the new weapons introduced in [[KidIcarusUprising Uprising]].]]
* Something to replace angel ring most likely. Possibly a new final smash and or a replacement to the beam sword.
[[WMG: If Lucas returns, there will be a ShoutOut to the ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'' FanTranslation in the English version.]]
[[WMG: The Master Hand is the Ego, the Crazy Hand is the Id, and Tabuu is the Super-ego.]]
[[WMG: About half of the '' Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' theme music is actually about Sonic.]]
Imagine this: A world, [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters loaded with Nintendo characters]], minor and major (minor ones becoming somewhat major due to the popularity of the game itself), dueling among themselves in a bid to see who's the best. Suddenly, disaster strikes, and most of this world is thrust into a darker dimension. The BigBad defeats everyone in [[CurbStompBattle one]] [[TotalPartyKill blow]]. Then they get revived for Round 2, thanks to the work done by an unlikely ally]], and he tries his ridiculous attack again. A blue blur shatters the BigBad's tools, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome preventing]] [[TookALevelInBadass the attack]], and reveals himself to be Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. A foreigner to the world of Nintendo, and effectively becoming a BigDamnHero with these actions, naturally, he would fit with the lyrics of the theme. It makes a lot of sense, [[FridgeLogic if you think about it]]. Almost (from a loyal Sonic fan's point of view) [[FridgeBrilliance brilliant]]!
[[WMG: In the next Smash Bros, characters will be able to fight in water.]]
Melee had water, but it was purely cosmetic and functioned exactly like air.
Brawl had water, and it functioned like water, but all you could do was jump out, swim left and right a little or wait about 10 seconds and drown.
4 will have water, and it will be awesome rather than uneccesary. Characters could do roughly the same things in the water that they could do on land, bar a couple of changes to the standard attacks.
You may say this idea is stupid, but why else would they put such a useless mechanic in Brawl if they weren't planning on expanding- Oh darn, tripping.
[[WMG: Every game features a different Link.]]
Each game gives Link different costumes, slightly different weapons and attacks, and various other quirks.
* Smash 64: This is the shakiest part of the theory, given his entrance and since OoT was the only 3d game out when 64 was released, but if Pit, Marth, and Roy can do it, so can Link. However, his costumes feature blue, red, and white/lavender tunics, possibly representing the Blue and Red Mails, along with the Blue ring from the original. A Link to the Past gave Link much the same equipment (even the hookshot!) with a similar look, but NO BOW.
* Melee: Adult Link is undeniably OoT Link this time, and the boomerang is a carry-over from Smash 64. However, something stands out about Young Link that keeps him from being OoT's child Link: he has the bow, which he cannot use in OoT. However, in Majora's Mask he gets not just the bow, but the Fire Arrows!
* Brawl: Following the split timeline introduced in Melee, the two Links come from Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
* SSB4: The next game will probably feature the young Link from Spirit Tracks and the adult Link from Skyward Sword.
[[WMG: [[WorfHadTheFlu Rayquaza was weakened by the Subspace Army before encountering Fox and Diddy Kong]].]]
Given Rayquaza's status as the Sky High Pokemon and its territorial nature, it only makes sense that it would have tried attacking the Halberd, seeing it as a threat. The Halberd managed to overwhelm Rayquaza, forcing it into a lake to recover. That would explain why it was so far from home, ''and'' why it managed to be defeated by two characters that should be far less powerful than it.
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a universe very similar to the show ReBoot.]]
The characters live together in peace until the User turns the game on and forces them to fight to the death. The character chosen by the user is generally safer than the others though. This is why the characters controlled by the computer all like to gang up on the human player.
[[WMG: Snake has the infinite ammo bandanna in Brawl.]]
That would explain why he never runs out of grenades and such.
[[WMG: The Hands actually belong to NiGHTS.]]
The game is actually a dream that the Smashers are having, with NiGHTS controlling everything. He/she never actually means to harm the Smashers, only wishing to have fun, hence why they only turn into trophies when KO'd.
* Think about it. The Hands are two disembodied hands with white gloves. NiGHTS wears similar gloves, and doesn't appear to have wrists, his/her hands instead floating inches from his/her sleeves.
* To further support this theory, who shows up right at the very end to save everyone? None other than fellow Sega character, Sonic. NiGHTS must've reached out to him in a last-ditch effort to save everyone.
[[WMG: Red actually has six Pokemon with him.]]
He just doesn't use them in battle either because of regulations, or he simply chooses not to.
[[WMG: In a few years...]]
VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! See! [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo and JohnnyTest in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and Franchise/WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright all the way to Timbuktu!
[[WMG: Tabuu is a ghost from VideoGame/{{Geist}}.]]
Look at them and know this theory only makes more sense if you know the two. The slight difference in Tabuu's appearance and his different powers can be explained by him being a natural ghost, not one created by technology and subspace is the same place the natural ghosts, demons and other monsters came from in Geist. The reason Tabuu could not directly influence the outside world is because no one was dumb enough to invoke him but he still managed to somehow catch Master Hand and indirectly draw the world into subspace anyway. This also means John Raimi might be in a new Smash Bros, because Geist is a Nintendo game.
[[WMG: There are Melee Pikachu belongs to Red now]]
That's why it never appears. This goes along with the "Brawl!Pikachu is Melee's Pichu" theory.
[[WMG: Real time damage will appear in the newest game.]]
The series has a habit of taking things left out of previous games and adding them into later installments.
[[WMG: The Beam Sword will not be in a future smash bros game]]
It had a nice run, but it will be replaced by weapons from the 3DS Kid Icarus game. A club, a cannon and two orbiters. Alternatively, it will be replaced by a beam sword that has actually shown up in a Nintendo game(take your pick).
* Maybe the Beam Claws from Uprising?
[[WMG: More character-specific victory quotes]]
In Brawl Fox, Falco and Wolf all had victory quotes they would only say to the other two. It doesn't make sense to not give other characters quotes like these also, even if it's just giving Mario a "So long big-a Bowser!" Though I'd like to see Luigi really rub a victory in Mario's face.
Furthermore, there could be more stages and characters who can Smash Taunt.
[[WMG: If Super Smash Bros Memories has all classic characters, even Pac-Man and Dig Dug...]]
* 9-volt of Warioware will somehow make a appearance. Let's check the major fact of this game. There are classic characters everywhere. 9-volt makes classic Nintendo microgames. It seems like a easy idea. He will either take 1 of the following roles.
** He will be a fighter, obviously. If he is unlocked from the get-go or unlock-able is up to you.
** He is either a boss or the final boss, and he has a move set of everything from classic Nintendo Accessories to the Wii-mote and nunchuck combo!
** He is the head honcho of the game, and will be allured to in the ending to classic mode. [[spoiler: When the credits role, the screen shall zoom out to show 9-volt on the computer working on his latest project, a all star classic fighter game, made solely on classic video game characters. The screen will end with 9-volt booting up whatever game the character you had finish on was.]]
[[WMG: Sonic reached Subspace [[spoiler:by getting sucked in by the black hole in [[Sonic Colors]]]]
[[spoiler: It could have been that Sonic never really (almost) did outrun the black hole (and that the black hole operated by the same principle as the Subspace Bomb) but in fact he REALLY did got sucked in by it and ended in the Brawl dimension, and he got later rescued by the Wisps to return to Planet Wisp for the end of the game]]
[[WMG: The reason Mr. Game & Watch has no concept of morality is because of the "Egg" game.]]
In that game, you're a fox trying to eat the eggs from hens, which could be considered an evil action. Since Mr. Game & Watch is a composite of all the playable characters of Game & Watch games, that character was factored into him and cancelled out the good influences of the other characters, making him have no morality.
[[WMG: The entire Smash Bros. Series is a game played using miniature figures.]]
The models were all made with no licensing or anything by two bored teenagers obsessed with video games. They were very low in detail at the start, but were painted with god-like perfection. They were occasionally painted with different outfits for fun, thus resulting in the alternate costumes that we see in every installment. The two teenagers had done a lot of work on them, but sometimes would fail resulting in the Fighting Polygon Team, every single one left unpainted. Nowadays they have a lot more skill, but sometimes didn't paint others. The reason for this is because the main painter had ended up with a problem with his hand by painting too much, now being known as Crazy Hand. This is also why, Tabuu, their latest creation, also lacks any paint on him. They managed to get a new painter in time for the next installment.
[[WMG: Pit will have Smash Taunts.]]
Just like Fox, Falco, Wolf, and Snake could talk to their support team on their stages, Pit will have a secret taunt to talk to characters from ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''. Mostly Palutena, but Viridi, Medusa, and Hades could also work well.
[[WMG: Solid Snake is a permanent Super Smash Bros Character.]]
With the announcement of Plastation All-Stars Battle Royale, everyone assumed that Solid Snake, being one of the reasons you bought a PS1, would be there. Well, now the entire cast for the game is up:
Big Daddy (Bioshock)\\
Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Evil Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Colonel Radec (Killzone)\\
Dante (DMC: Devil May Cry)\\
Fat Princess (Fat Princess)\\
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)\\
Jak and Daxter (À la recherche du temps perdu by Marcel Proust. Also, Jak and Daxter)\\
Kratos (God of War)\\
Nariko (Heavenly Sword)\\
Nathan Drake (Uncharted)\\
[=PaRappa=] the Rapper ([=PaRappa=] the Rapper)\\
Raiden (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)\\
Ratchet and Clank (Ratchet and Clank)\\
Sackboy (Little Big Planet)\\
Sir Daniel Fortesque ([=MediEvil=])\\
Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper)\\
Spike (Ape Escape)\\
Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)\\
Toro Inoue (Sony Japan's mascot. Originally featured in Doko Demo Issyo)
Notice that Raiden for Metal Gear Rising is on there, but not Solid Snake. Why is this? Well, it's simple really. Solid Snake is a permanent member of Super Smash Bros. The creators of Metal Gear Solid probably doesn't want to put Snake in what they see as a Rip-off, and Nintendo probably went into negotiations with Konami so that Solid Snake can only be in their fighting game, not anyone elses. So while there is representation for Sony's game from Metal Gear, Solid Snake will always reside within Super Smash Bros. No ifs, ands or buts.
** WordOfGod is that Snake wasn't added to ''Playstation All Stars'' because almost all the third party characters were included in that game to promote then-upcoming titles, so Raiden was used to represent ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Revengeance]]''. More to the point, Kojima also didn't want to include both Raiden and Snake because he knew people would make them fight each other to see who's better, which is something Kojima has generally tried to avoid outside of parodies that poke fun at the idea.
[[WMG: Tabuu is the personification of the game's save file/memory.]]
And Sub-space is actually the programming which is used to save data. Tabuu was sick of dealing with the player constantly altering his realm, so he planned on turning everyone into trophies--that way, they'll stop playing the game and thus his realm can't be altered.
[[WMG: Tabuu is the [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Walpurgis_Night Walpurgis Night]] of the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse.]]
In the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' universe, it’s established that Kyuubey’s race the Incubators travel to all sorts of worlds to search for contractees to become Magical Girls to fight {{Eldritch Abomination}}s called Witches. However, once these contractees descend into complete despair or use up all of their soul gem’s magic, they transform into Witches themselves, and then the Incubators collect the energy released from these transformations to counteract the heat death of the universe. What’s to say the Incubators hadn’t traveled to the Super Smash Brothers Brawl universe to find contractees to go through this unfortunate and deceitful process? In the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse, Tabuu is an immensely powerful entity because he is an amalgamation of these fallen Magical Girls (and possibly Boys, since WordOfGod confirms Tabuu as a male entity) like the Witch Walpurgis Night of the Madoka Magica universe. Also like Walpurgis Night, Tabuu is so powerful that more often than not it takes several warriors to defeat him unless one particular warrior is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSeyMuiJHZc exceptionally gifted or well trained in combat]]. Tabuu's status as the [[SpearCounterpart male]] Walpurgis Night of the SSBB Trophyverse also accounts for his diverse and deadly attacks in battle. Additionally, the large diversity of enemies present even outside of the Subspace happens to be Tabuu’s familiars, and the Subspace itself is Tabuu’s [[EldritchLocation Warlock barrier]].
But why is Master Hand, and by extension, Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario, working for Tabuu? Tabuu warlock-kissed Master Hand, and then the brainwashed Master Hand controlled these three Nintendo villains to perform Tabuu’s dirty work. King Dedede turns out to be the Homura Akemi analogue of the SSBB universe, since he alone already knows about Tabuu’s dangerous whereabouts and powers long before any other character, and has also developed some techniques (the badges) to counteract the Warlock. Luckily for our video game heroes, no one has to contract with Kyuubey to become Puella/Puera magi in order to defeat Tabuu, since all the video game characters already come with their awesome, enemy-defeating abilities. If Homura Akemi can defeat Witches and familiars using mundane, non-magical weapons such as golf clubs and military-grade artillery, who’s to say Ness can’t use his baseball bat or Fox can’t use his laser gun to help defeat the Warlock Tabuu?
[[WMG: Jigglypuff is a boy]]
It's only been heavily ''implied'' to be a girl.
[[WMG: Pokemon Trainer won't be replaced, but he will be aged up]]
Probably to his [[VideoGame/PokemonHeartGoldAndSoulSilver HGSS]] role of age 14. He'll look older, have a deeper voice, be taller..
[[WMG: Red will be named next game]]
Going by the "they're toys being played by kids" logic, the children playing with only new Red from [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FR/LG]] so they didn't know his canon name. He's popped up twice since Brawl, named twice.
[[WMG: The 4th game will not be a FakeCrossover.]]
* In other words, the fighters in Super Smash Brothers For Wii U / 3DS are the real characters from the canon games, legitimately invited to take part in Smash Brothers. There's a scene at the beginning of the Villager's introduction trailer in which he receives a letter stamped with the Smash Brothers emblem, and runs off excitedly by the next cut. This is proof enough that, at the very least, the fighters aren't just magical trophies that come to life when you touch the base.
** Snake's introduction in Brawl had him being invited to join (via the Colonel), but the game itsaelf was still a FakeCrossover. It seems more likely that the Villager's intrpoduction was as much a part of the in-universe game as the kerfuffles themselves.
[[WMG: The 4th game will have Team-Final Smashes]]
In Brawl, the cool big thing (other than Snake and Sonic) was finishing moves finally. How do they go one step beyond? By giving each combo of characters some kind of team-up Final Smash. It could be a pair of smaller Smash Spheres connected by a chain, and whatever two characters get them team up to do their finisher. Besides, the game is already emphasizing a little cooperation by being on both 3DS and Wii U, so including this could lead to a title like ''Super Smash Bros Tag Team'' or something.
[[WMG: [[VideoGame/SuperMarioLand Tatanga]] will be the BigBad of the 4th game.]]
[[WMG: Smash Bros. 4 is why Nintendo didn't have an E3 conference.]]
Can you imagine how LOUD the roar would be when Mega Man's inclusion was announced? They'd have gone deaf, no wonder they stuck to Nintendo Direct.
** But most people aren't allowed at E3 anymore, right?
[[WMG: The newest games will canonicalize the "It's an interdimensional tournament" theory]]
For years fans (such as WebSite/DKVine) liked to write the game as Master Hand taking characters from their home universes and making them fight for varying reasons. In the original trailer Villager is in his town and gets a letter.
[[WMG: Villager will have an adult voice]]
The source games imply the hero is an adult but the series ArtisticAge makes them look prepubescent. Alternatively he'll have a mid-teens voice, not quite too deep but not quite young.
[[WMG: Luigi's reveal will be the best one.]]
At the time of this edit, it is currently 2013, which Nintendo has dubbed "TheYearOfLuigi". If they decide to reveal Luigi as part of the starting roster for the fourth game this year (assuming that the man in green himself is being included in the first place), he will get a reveal trailer that is so awesome, epic, and amazing that it makes Mega Man's reveal trailer look boring in comparison.
[[WMG: The Subspace Emmisary is [[spoiler:actually a prequel to the Kirby series.]]]]
[[spoiler:In the beginning, the series takes place in Dream Land, which is not as bright as it is in Kirby. Here, every Nintendo character come to this world for fights. But, there are two characters who are indigenous to this world, not hailing from another: Kirby, who is a baby and trains under his mentor [[TheObiWan Mario]], and King Dedede, a penguin who tries to be an EvilOverlord, but isn't a very effective one. Meta Knight, a mysterious swordsman with ambitions of conquest, was sent by Tabuu to conquer the universe for him, but that failed when [[TheStarscream Meta decided to do it for himself and not his master]]. So Tabuu sets the game in motion to [[EvilVsEvil stop Meta before he can put his own plans into action]]. Dedede is initially led by Tabuu because he wishes to get rid of Meta Knight and be a better bad guy than him, but [[CharacterDevelopment decides to be a better person to save the universe upon learning Tabuu's true plans]].]]
[[spoiler:When Tabuu [[OneHitKO Off-Waves]] everyone, canonically, no-one gets out other than [[FiveManBand Ness, Kirby, Dedede, Bowser and Luigi]] ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic]]). Kirby is then [[HopeBringer the hope of the universe]] as he [[TakeUpMySword becomes "the new Mario"]], and leads his group through the Great Maze to defeat Tabuu and save the day. Afterwards, Ness lives out the rest of his life in his world, Sonic leaves in search of new adventures, Luigi and Bowser retire into seclusion (Bowser does this because with Peach gone, things aren't as fun) and Dedede becomes "the new Bowser" of Dream Land (only even less threatening) since Kirby's the new hero. However, as he dies, Tabuu uses the last of his Shadow Bugs to create a blue Kirby clone, who becomes the new Meta Knight. As a result of Subspace's end, Dream Land eventually becomes a brighter and jollier place.]]
[[WMG: The dark secret behind the chimney in the Onett stage.]]
Why are puffs of smoke periodically coming from the chimney? It's clearly summer, so there shouldn't be a fire burning, and if there was a fire, it would be one long pillar of smoke, not a series of irregular puffs. There is therefore only one possible explanation: meth lab. Yep, the Minch family is breaking very poorly.
[[WMG: Alternate Outfits]]
In Brawl, Wario had not only his WarioWare [[http://www.cubed3.com/media/2007/December/jb/waoverall1.jpg biker outfit]], but also his [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111229211606/nintendo/en/images/7/7d/Wariobrawl.jpg classic overalls]] as an "alternate outfit" selectable through the same way one selects alternate colors. In Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS, they could give characters alternate costumes that, while not altering gameplay, would change the characters' appearances and possibly even sound effects and voices. A few examples would be...
#Mario - [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/7/71/Dr._Mario_SSBM.jpg Dr. Mario]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/bb/MarioN1.jpg Striker Mario]]
#Yoshi - [[http://photic.slimemansion.com/windcrystal/image/boshi.jpg Boshi]]
#Bowser - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0c/Drybowserms.png Dry Bowser]], [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mehkl05wo71r0t8auo1_500.gif Bowletta]]
#Peach - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0e/DaisyMP8Official.png Daisy]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/fc/Peach_NurseOutfit.jpg Nurse Toadstool]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/47/Princess_Rosalina_Super_Mario_Galaxy.png Rosalina]]
#Pikachu - [[http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/79/Notchie-art.png Spiky-eared Pichu]], [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120618030859/sonicpokemon/images/3/34/Raichu.png Raichu]], [[http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-08/art/prsoa-pachirisu.jpg Pachirisu]]
#Samus - [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130406130409/metroid/images/7/7d/Mprime2_DarkSamus.jpg Metroid Prime (Dark Samus)]]
#Mega Man - [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616040814/megaman/images/4/42/MegamanMHX.jpg X]], [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722183558/megaman/images/3/38/Bass2MM10.png Bass]], [[http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/a/a8/Protoman10.png Protoman]]
#Olimar - [[http://www.pikminfanon.com/images/b/b7/Louie.jpg Louie]], [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130607182619/pikmin/images/f/ff/Alph.png Alph]]
#Luigi - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7e/Mr_L_Render.png Mr. L]]
#Fox - [[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123924/2982528-foxmc.jpg StarFoxAssault Fox]]
#Link - [[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7wchkTis1qgtyxi.jpg CDI Link]]
[[WMG:The fourth game's Adventure Mode will rely more on dialogue than Brawl's.]]
Sakurai [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=208299 recently said]] he's dropping cutscenes from the new Adventure Mode. Note that in [[http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/ssbb/3/1 this edition of Iwata Asks]], Sakurai talked about how important the story of a video game has become in recent years. This indicates that the new Adventure Mode will have to use new means of conveying the story. Since ''Brawl'' was on one end of the SlidingScaleOfVisualsVersusDialogue, why not take the fourth game to the opposite end?
[[WMG:Bowser's new appearance in the fourth installment means he'll be using more of the moves he's used in the spin-off ''Mario'' titles.]]
Particularly, moves from ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]]'' will probably be utilized, to take advantage of his new characteristics.
[[WMG: the combat system will be customizable in the new game]]
The reason that Mega Man had so many moves in the trailer was because the game will allow you to choose your four basic moves (At least) from a selection of unlockable tricks. For instance, Pikachu will be able to replace Skull Bash with a true Quick Attack and demonstrate other moves like Brick Break, Grass Knot and Iron Tail. Perhaps you can even change Final Smashes, with Pikachu changing Volt Tackle for Surf.
[[WMG: One of Villagers costumes be of the [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100817230632/animalcrossing/images/b/bc/Boy_AAA.jpg original costumes]]]]
He'll keep his shirt but he'll wear a matching hat.
[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer's Squirtle and Ivysaur will have fully evolved between games.]]
With their new mega forms, he can have three different final smashes!
[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch will either receive a DistaffCounterpart or be revealed as a Mrs. at some point in the future.]]
Just look at the track record of the non-clone characters that were introduced in ''Melee''. Peach is a woman. Zelda is a woman, and Sheik is no different. One of the Ice Climbers is female. Bowser [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga got a female form only two years later]]. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Marth's next FE appearance turned out to be a woman]]. [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Mewtwo's next movie appearance turned out to be a woman]]. Who's left?
* Falco? Ganondorf?
[[WMG: All three games have an overarching storyline.]]
* The first game was relatively simple; we only see the first stages of the story, but we do see some signs. Master Hand, behind the scenes, was experimenting with a miniature world.
** The toys in this game are prototypes of the trophy fighters we see later, and they were brought to life by the Shadow Bugs, which we know are a primordial substance extracted from the Game & Watch race. (That's also why Mr. Game & Watch isn't in ''64''; he was too busy being experimented on.)
** Later on, we see the Fighting Polygon Team; failed prototypes that were created before the toys, being of a very crude shape and keeping the color of the shadow bugs that made them. It's also possible that they became self-replicating, the shadow bugs reading off of each other and endlessly generating new polygons.
** The Metal Mario we see in this game is a more advanced one; possibly a Polygon Mario that absorbed more of the shadow bugs and took a more solid, more powerful form.
** Even the stages reek of deterioration; Battlefield appears to be off the side of a cliff, fading into purple. Coincidence? Then, the metal cave; that wouldn't happen naturally. The Metal Mario battle takes place in an environment that had absorbed the shadows and hardened as much as Metal Mario himself. Finally, Final Destination, which is floating right in the middle of Subspace; hell, we even ''see'' the clouds of shadow bugs drifting down in the middle of the battle!
* In ''Melee'', the experiments have succeeded. The trophy fighters have been finalized and put to the test. As the experimentation is finished, the Game & Watch race is allowed to join the others in the fray, and all of the ones used to create the trophies are fought at once at the end of All-Star mode.
** At the same time, however, the polygons have evolved into a more humanoid organized form; the wireframes. Even Metal Mario has reproduced into the other 25 metal characters.
** Battlefield has collapsed into Subspace like Final Destination. The stone relics that made up the original stage have crystallized and mutated into the metal, energy-filled form we're familiar with.
** Along with the evolution of the Polygons and the Metals, the first Shadow Clones have begun to take form; the Bowser at the end of Adventure Mode, which is large and unstable, even mutating into the horrible Giga Bowser upon being broken.
* ''Brawl'' sees the culmination of everything.
** Final Destination is still lost, but Battlefield's destruction has settled; it appears to be a distant memory, the cliff having been blown away and the entire area grown over. The unchanged form in ''Wii U/3DS'' supports this; it's gone through all of the changes it had to face.
** The wireframes have evolved further into the Alloys, gaining the metallic shells of their counterparts in the metals along with boosted abilities.
** A further evolved wireframe is Tabuu, who had become giant and gained the powers of the shadows. This is what allowed him to take action and set the Subspace Emissary storyline into effect.
[[WMG: Battlefield and Final Destination are the same location]]
* I've always thought this since I first played Melee, if one looks, the two stages are very similar. My theory is that the Battlefield platforms can merge into the floor, expanding it into Final Destination. I always imagined this transition between the two stages during Classic and Adventure mode.
[[WMG:An updated version of Dragon King will be a playable character]]
This could serve as a throwback tribute to what SSB once was, a.k.a. MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness. One of each for the Polygons, Wireframes, and alloys could also be playable characters in their own SSB roster.
* Bless our hearts, we keep hoping...
[[WMG:The Super Leaf from the ''Mario'' series will be an item in some way in the fourth game]]
It's been in [[VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand two]] [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros2 platformers]] for the [=3DS=], the system's Kart game, the tail appeared in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', and it has been ''[=3D=] World''. Nintendo seems to like giving this powerup comebacks lately. Maybe an equippable badge that slows falling speed, like the "Flying" version of Pokemon Stadium 2?
[[WMG: Little Mac will replace Meta Knight as the highest tier.]]
* Think about it, in the trailer if he performs enough punches to fill up his meter, he could KO anyone. Unless he doesn't manage to knock Bowser offscreen when the latter's at 0%, he could be overpowered.
[[WMG: The Boxing Ring stage is ''not'' the Punch-Out!! stage.]]
* The one we saw at the beginning is the new Final Destination. The Punch-out!! stage was shown to have walk-off ledges. The Initial Boxing Ring appears to have traditional Ring-Out gaps.
[[WMG: Little Mac will have a secret taunt...]]
In which he consults Doc about the characters he's currently fighting. Doc will then outline the fighter's capabilities, background, and a bit of snarky commentary. Because, really, they had to have given him a speaking role for some reason besides to give a few stock lines. This is doubly likely if Snake doesn't get back in for whatever reason.
[[WMG: Mario is an alternate universe counterpart to Superman, and all other Nintendo characters correspond similarly.]]
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* He wears a red and blue costume, has a similar name -- "Super Mario" -- gains special abilities from the environment of his adopted homeworld (tying in with the "mushroom kingdom has lesser gravity" theory mentioned above, which was the same explanation for Superman's powers in the original stories from the 30's -- note original Superman had the same basic powerset as Mario -- super strength, speed, and enhanced jumping ability), and is the primary hero in his universe. Most of Mario's additional powers come from plant life, such as mushrooms and fire flowers, which absorb sunlight through photosynthesis -- similarly to Superman's solar-fueled powers. Note that Mario's powerup abilities are similar to those of Superman:
* Fireflower - Heat vision
* Starman - Invulnerability
* Raccoon/Cape/Wing Cap/Red Star - Flight (especially the cape)
* Iceflower- Freeze breath
** Yes, this is a very loose connection, but consider the Tangent universe Superman, a bald black guy with ESP, and the numerous other bizarre elseworlds versions (German Expressionist Superman anyone?) and it's relatively believable.
*** Additionally, this also solves the mystery of Wario's origin, as Wario is quite clearly the alternate universe counterpart to Bizzaro, and is therefore most likely an imperfect clone.
* Furthermore, transitive equality means that Sonic is therefore an Elseworlds Goku, which makes sense what with the super-sonic form being oh so obviously Super Saiyan.
** And suddenly, "NOW I'LL SHOW YOU!" actually becomes evidence for this. I mean, just listen to it after hearing Goku a few times!
* Even further, this means Link is an Elseworlds Batman, what with all his weaponry, popularity, and stints between being a stoic badass and being cartoony.
** So does this make Super Smash Bros the Crisis?
*** Yes. Melee is Infinite Crisis, and Brawl is Final Crisis.
**** But wouldn't that in turn make the alloys and wireframes the O.M.A.C.s?
** QED Sheik = Catwoman.
* To really run this into the ground, Samus is Wonderwoman (raised in a isolated, utopian society and granted powers by the gifts of the gods/ sufficiently advanced aliens), Mew is the Martian Manhunter (Pokemon could be from Mars right?), Team Starfox are the Blackhawks (elite freelance mercenary unit of pilots), and they all live on Earth 64.
** Braniac is either Andross or Mother-brain.
* No, Samus is Iron (Wo)man. Oh wait, that's Marvel.
* Pit is Hawkman. Okay, now I'll stop.
* And Meta Knight is...um...hrm...''[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]]''!!
** That doesn't make sense, as Meta Knight and Kirby are both Nintendo characters from the get-go. As Kirby shows signs of imitation of Link, who is Batman, when he has a Sword power, Kirby is Robin, and batlike Meta Knight, a darker mentor to Kirby, is Nightwing.
*** No, no, Meta Knight is simply a Kirby who has swallowed a Batman.
* Wait, since "Toon Link" is the successor to regular Link, that makes ''him'' Robin. Kirby would be Green Arrow. Evidence: Green Arrow's arsenal contains a near-infinite assortment of arrows, including boxing glove arrows and bubbly fire-extinguisher arrows, which match up perfectly to Kirby's Fighter and Bubble powers.
** Alternatively, "Toon Link" is the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Terry McGinnis]] to Link's Bruce Wayne.
*** Kirby is ''obviously'' an organic AMAZO.
**** Considering how Kirby is a Warpstar Knight, he may be the analogue of another interplanatary law-enforcement officer -- Green Lantern.
***** Which would make Meta Knight one too...
****** To be exact, Meta Knight would be Sinestro.
* Ganondorf is Darkseid. This is fun!
** Considering that Ganondorf is Link's arch-enemy, he'd probably be the alternate of a Bat-foe. The only one who fits him, though, would be Bane.
*** Ra's Al Ghul would be a better fit -- immortal meglomaniac with a sweet cape (needs to be a trope), and a love of engaging the hero in dramatic climactic swordfights? Obviously, skull-kid is scarecrow, while the Dekus and Gorrons are races progenated by the benevolent counterparts of Posion Ivy and Clayface respectively.
* Also, Pikachu is Flash.
** No, Sonic is a Goku/Flash combo-{{Expy}}. Pikachu is Static. That's even the name of his ability.
*** Nah, Captain Falcon is Flash. Pikachu is Thor.
**** No. Captain Falcon is god.
* But doesn't that make Dr. Mario Clark Kent?
* I kind of want to say that following this logic, the [[VideoGame/EarthBound Chosen Four]] ''must'' be the Comicbook/{{Runaways}}... but then I remember they're Marvel and I brainfart.
* And would this make Olimar Squirrel Girl? I mean, a character who uses his many small minions to defeat opponents who are much stronger in canon?
** No, as she is of Marvel, and Pikmin was a 1st party game. Judging from his ability to command legions of plantlike creatures, who become more powerful by being around him, he's a good alternate version of Poison Ivy, more limited in abilities because Main/GoodIsDumb.
*** He's Poison Ivy [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] who, due to Hocotatian DNA corruption, ended up male and benevolent.
**** Two words: Swamp Thing. Space changed him.
* Having played sub-space emmissary, and taking the above into account this troper can now confirm that Master Hand is the Monitor, Crazy Hand is the Anti-monitor, and Tabuu is Superboy Prime -- he was the protagonist of a game that Nintendo never got around to making (possibly Project H.A.M.M.E.R), and like Superboy-Prime, is taking his revenge on the core universe for his lost chance to be a hero.
* Luigi... let's see... same powers as Superman/Super Mario, except weaker and faster, with a completely different attitude... would that make him Supergirl? Sheesh, Luigi can't catch a break even in WMG...
** He could also be Mon-El...
** I'd suggest Krypto, only now I've got the mental image of Luigi saying, in a London accent, "Oh my God, I'm the caped dog!"
** He could be Captain Marvel, a thinly-veiled Superman Expy that DC later bought the rights to.
*** The Krypto analogue is most likely Yoshi... Damn it! Now I have the mental image of Yoshi responding to all Mario's instructions with an electronic, slightly camp "YES MASTER".
* Bowser is a fusion of Pre-crisis Lex Luthor and Doomsday -- He has the former's meglomania, and penchant for insane schemes, but not his mad science skills (which seem to have gone to Bowser Junior), and the latter's physical power and immortality, but not his adaption abilities (note that lava hurts him in both the original Super Mario Bros, and Super Mario Galaxy).
** Which in turn would make Mario's cosmically mischievous, sparsely-appearing foe King Boo Mr. Mxyzptlk!
** Bowser seems more like a Darkseid to me: "I am many things, Mario - but here, I am a god!"; "I never settle. What I cannot have, I destroy.". Seriously, it writes itself.
* Solid Snake, then, would be the alternate of [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]]. Not sure why, but it seems to fit, and puts Snake distinctly outside of normal canon (but within easy reach for a crossover).
* The Ice Climbers are, of course, the Wonder Twins.
* Tabuu would be a malevolent [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]]... ''with butterfly wings''.
** And Porky is Ozymandias, Lucas is Nite Owl, and Ness is Rorschach.
*** Tabuu is almost certainly the Anti Monitor.
* All I want to know is when we're going to see Nintendo VS Mortal Kombat.
* Since they're both joke characters, would Mr. Game & Watch be Ambush Bug?
** Maybe Mr. Game & Watch is the incarnate of all pre-Superman comic book characters.
*** Specifically, Mr. Game & Watch is the first comic ''strip'' character: Yellow Kid!
*** I say Mr. Game & Watch is Martian Manhunter. He's from another world, he changes shape, doesn't speak much (even by Nintendo standards - he just beeps), and his world (the Game & Watch Series/Black & White 2D simple games) is kind of dead. Plus he doesn't exactly have a place outside of Smash Bros. Alternatively - Elongated/Plastic Man.
* I guess this makes Mega Man...Optimus Prime?\
** Nah, he's an amalgamation of the Metal Men, keeping with the DC theme.
* Someone really should make this WMG into a webcomic.
* This troper sorts it out something like this, along with the reasons stated above:
** Mario: Superman - Main most iconic hero, variety of powers, PrimaryColorChampion
** Luigi: Captain Marvel - Same powers, deliberate expy
** Peach: Lois Lane
** Bowser: Lex Luthor/Doomsday
** Yoshi: Krypto
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume)
*** Or Bizarro, (In WarioLand Overalls costume seeing that Wario is the opposite of Mario)
** Link: Batman (No intrinsic powers but tenacity, wit, tons of gadgets. Equally iconic to the brand as Mario / Superman)
** Toon Link: Batman (Terry as a younger person that takes up the mantle of the Hero generations later)
*** Or Bat-Mite (as a cartoony version of a serious character)
** Zelda: Barbara Gordon, with the slower and more intelligence-based Zelda form being Oracle, and the speedier and more physical Shiek being Batgirl
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al Ghul
** Samus: Wonder Woman Main female hero, during the MetroidPrime era was often seen as a third to Mario and Link.
** Fox: Green Lantern Hal Jordan Inter-planetary peacekeeping squadron
** Falco: Green Lantern John Stewart
** Wolf: Sinestro
** DK: Aquaman (King of a biome)
** Diddy: Aqualad
** Mr. Game And Watch: Vintage Superman - Old
** Captain Falcon: Flash - Super Speed, flashy personality
** Kirby: Amazo
** Meta Knight: OMAC
** Dedede: Penguin
** Pikachu: Static
** Jigglypuff: Shebang
** Pokemon Trainer: Will Magnus
*** Pokemon are the Metal Men
** Lucario: Soul Power
** Marth: Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)
** Ike: Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
** Olimar: Martian Manhunter - Stranded on earth
** Pit: Green Arrow - Archer
** Ice Climbers: Wonder Twins - Twins
** Ness: Hawkman
** Lucas: Warhawk
** R.O.B.: Red Tornado
** Snake: John Constantine
*** Alternately, if third party=Marvel, Snake could be Agent Venom. I dunno, it just seems to fit.
*** Or, he could be Captain America.
** Sonic: Spider-Man (as rival company's most iconic hero, popular by being a witty teen in contrast to Mario/Superman's clean cut adult)
*** Or Goku (as Comics vs. Manga counterpart, since Sonic even has WordOfGod DragonBall influences)
** Villager: Jimmy Olsen
** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man)
*** Or Astroboy (if third party = Anime/Manga with Sonic as Goku)
** Wii Fit Trainer: Black Canary
** Rosalina: Dr. Light
** Little Mac: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Muhammad_Ali Muhammad Ali]]
*** Either that or the Atom (Al Pratt)
** Tabuu: Anti Monitor
** Master Hand: The Spectre
** Crazy Hand: Parallax
*** Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo; Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.
[[WMG: In response to the DC comics connection above]]
If Mario is Superman then Sonic is a composite mixture of the Superman [[CaptainErsatz clones]].
* Goku
** Super Sonic transformation similar to Super Saiyan
* Sentry
** Dark Sonic form similar to The Void
* Captain Marvel "Shazam"
** Manga Sonic was a kid who transformed.
** Captain Marvel moved from a smaller publisher to DC comics, Sonic primarily makes Nintendo games [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 with troubled exceptions]]. But in the past they were rivals to the other company.
[[WMG: Lucario is a [[DragonBall Saiyan]].]]
No, he is not a Pokemon. Even in the Pokemon universe, he secretly belongs to a race of Saiyans. Seriously, [[http://img525.imageshack.us/i/1215198418lucariosmashtm9.jpg/ Just look at his final smash.]]
* If so, he must be Sonic's minion, as he has never been able to become a Super Saiyan as Sonic does.
* Lucario replaced Mewtwo by killing him in a seven-episode-long battle, after he discovered that Mewtwo was related to Frieza, the destroyer of the Saiyan homeworld.
* If you guys are just kidding, sorry, but SERIOUSLY. He was just VOICE-acted by Vageta. And the aura....
[[WMG: Mewtwo is [[DragonBall Z Frieza]].]]
Both have a white/whitish and purple color scheme, both use telekinesis, both are uber powerful, they both have tails.... Coincidence? I think ''NOT!''
* And he was replaced by Lucario who is similar to -- and voice acted by the same person as -- Goku.
** Alt theory... he could be another one of Frieza's race.
[[WMG: Tabuu isn't evil.]]
This is actually the basis for a Fanfiction I want to write at some point with alot of alternate dimension stuff, so watch out for brainfarts.
Tabuu is from an alternate universe, where instead of there being a creative and a destructive force, Tabuu is both at once. Since this is an alternate version of the Brawl universe, all the characters in this alternate world are similar but different. Maybe he's a Nintendo fan, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
Whatever the case, Crazy Hand makes the subspace dimension, which explains its destructive power, and uses it as a bridge between dimensions. Crazy heads into Tabuu's world and forces him into subspace, then closes the portal behind him, explaining why Crazy isn't in the Brawl storyline.
Then Tabuu appropriately goes mad and uses subspace to get revenge by destroying what he thinks is Crazy's universe; in a way, he chose the right place, but destroying it would only make Crazy happier. Anyway, Tabuu starts his evil plan to destroy Crazy's own personal world using the power of the subspace dimension, and meanwhile Crazy is tearing his universe into confetti. The reason why Tabuu doesn't destroy things, and instead creates the "great maze", is because he's trying to rebuild his own universe. Of course, the Heroes trophify/destroy him, and before Subspace closes, Crazy returns through it. Essentially dooming a entire universe forever with his power.
Crazy just destroyed a universe and got away with it. While Tabuu tried to BUILD one and got destroyed.
Bet you feel a bit guilty now.
* Nnnope.
* But since the characters obviously have some sort of communication (how else did Lucario and Meta Knight convince Snake to help them?), Tabuu should have been able to explain. They knew Crazy Hand was missing, so that part, at least, was believable. Furthermore, why didn't he just steal building materials from the various worlds?
** For the second question: He kinda was. For the first: Since we're assuming the smashers communicate without talking, then we don't know if Tabuu was doing the same, and the Smashers [[BloodKnight just]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy didn't]] [[MoralDissonance care]].
* He didn't bother to try explaining himself, he made evil clones, was the man behind various ''villains,'' and there's the whole "mass slaughter of R.O.B.s via Subspace Bomb detonation" bit. Yeah, I still enjoyed beating him down.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are controlled by the next evolution of Wham Bam Rock.]]
First we had Wham Bam Rock in ''Kirby Super Star'', with stone hands that did a lot of the things that Master Hand does, swatting, smashing, grabbing, etc. Then in Kirby Super Star Ultra, we get Wham Bam Jewel, who upgrades to using Master-Hand style finger gun moves and such. He will most likely continue to escalate his form until he reaches a godlike amount of power, perhaps with a wish from NOVA, and become Wham Bam Master.
[[WMG: Master and Crazy Hand are the Mirror Universe versions of Wham Bam Rock.]]
In a parallel to the above, we see Master and Crazy Hand in the Mirror World in ''Kirby: The Amazing Mirror''. The Mirror World has opposite copies of several Kirby characters: Kirby himself, [[spoiler:Meta Knight]], and Whispy Woods (King Golem) to name a few. Wham Bam Rock is a deity-looking stone idol with unattatched hands made of stone. Master and Crazy hand ''are'' deities with perfectly humanlike hands. Both have very similar attack patterns, although Wham Bam tends to use falling stones more than lasers. Just close enough to be fitting, and yet worlds apart in implementation.
[[WMG: Tabuu is [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]].]]
Blue, bald, terrifyingly powerful. Doctor Manhattan states his intention to create humanity before leaving at the end of ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''. Tabuu creates the Primids. Possibly, the long, lonely trip through space has made him insane, possibly to the point of hallucinations and delirium, hence the destruction the Subspace Army causes and the aggression towards the player characters.
* If only [[spoiler:Rorschach]] had timed his dodges right...
* Actually, he's a program '''written''' by Dr Manhattan, which is why he looks kinda like him, because {{Tron}} looked like his creator too.
* If he was Manhattan, that does raise the question of what happened to his... y'know... I mean, Tabuu's naked as Manhattan always is, but he doesn't have the ''parts.'' Did he cut them off or something?
[[WMG: Nintendo and Microsoft are secretly allied.]]
They plan to take down Sony by hoarding all the good games, splitting them between each other. The fact that the XBox is releasing KatamariDamacy and [[Franchise/MetalGear Metal Gear Solid]] games only serve to confirm this.
This really doesn't belong here, but the other place I have it is hard to find.
[[WMG: The SSB world is a CrapsackWorld.]]
Think about it. They are all kept as slaves, only released out of their trophy forms to fight in front of thousands as entertainment. The SSE is the chronicle of their escape, and SSE army is trying to reclaim them back.
[[WMG: SSE is a parable encouraging harmlessly weird hobbies.]]
Master Hand is still the avatar for a collector of Nintendo trophies, but he isn't a child anymore. He's a grown man, and pressure from the outside world, represented by Tabuu, has made him try to break with his "childish" past. He stops displaying his collection in his living room, starting with Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link; eventually, he gets into a shouting contest with a close friend about his hobby, set off by the Ganondorf trophy. The friend says that such things are childish and that he should focus on more adult things. At this point he gives up and puts the whole collection in storage, and Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link are broken or lost by the move.
Some time later, he finds the King Dedede, Ness, and Luigi trophies. Hit with waves of nostalgia, he decides to look into the online presence of trophy collectors and finds a surprisingly active and friendly community -- people the same age as him, even. He's finally inspired to bring the collection out of storage by someone whose favourite trophy is Sonic. He gets into further arguments now and then, but Tabuu's wings have been clipped, and Master Hand shines even brighter for it. He then goes and buys Toon Link and Wolf.
** If this is the case, then Tabuu (Taboo) is a MeaningfulName.
[[WMG:In the Brawlverse, King Dedede is a pimp.]]
* Evidence 1: 3 of his costumes are stereotypical "pimp colours" (Pink, Baby blue, and Purple) and his normal outfit is red, which means he flies the flags of a Blood. He also has the {{Playboy}} logo on the back of his Pimp coat.
* Evidence 2: When he trophyfies Luigi, which is his way of making you a hoe, he gives him a pimp slap, to show him who's boss.
* Evidence 3: He puts two buttons on Ness and Luigi but sacrifices his own to put in on a Princess, because they would generate the most profit.
* Evidence 4: In the SSE, he lives in the Playboy Mansion.
* Evidence 5: When Bowser wrecks Dedede's mansion, Dedede looks up and just lets a huge concrete block knock him out, obviously because he smoked one too many doobies and it messed up his reflexes.
* Evidence 6: As soon as all the fighters are beaten by Tabuu, the badges activate, because that means he was not one to buy the services of his ladies.
* Evidence 7: He pimp slaps Bowser in the face, which automatically makes Bowser shut up, evidence of a strong Pimp hand.
* Evidence 8: He throws his hoes at you.
** Okay, that made me crack up. Hoe-Throw attack...
[[WMG:The Crazy Hand is the kid's wanking Hand.]]
* Which is why he is crazy.
** That doesn't sound right to me -- That's about the age you ''stop'' playing with toys. Unless this kid has some weird, weird interests.... Rule 34 and all that... But if that were true, the game wouldn't be about Nintendo Characters ''fighting.''
*** Which is why he doesn't show up until ''Melee'' -- at which point the kid has entered middle school and is having trouble putting away his toys/experiencing an awkward sexual awakening. By the time he's in high school, he's done with the toys and has settled for writing Nintendo crossover fanfiction (SSE), which in turn explains why Crazy Hand doesn't show up in SSE.
*** Somehow, the introduction of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl, along with Zelda's more realistic design, only reinforces that for me.
*** This goes along perfectly with the concept of Master Hand and Crazy Hand being the hands of Christian Weston Chandler.
[[WMG:Tabuu is a [[{{Tron}} program]] created by [[KingdomHearts Master Xehanort]].]]
* They look exactly alike; Tabuu has the neon glow. Also helps that ''Tron'' has been a world in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. And that the two games happen to share a scenario writer. This, of course, has the supplementary WMG that ''Brawl'' is in fact a game on Ansem's computer network, because his apprentices loved to have late night Smash Bros. marathons.
** This troper now imagines Xehanort, Lord of TheHeartless, using Dark-Toon Link in a game against Sora, who's using Kirby... hilarious.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are VideoGame/{{Rayman}}.]]
They have no visible support. They're like white gloves. They're right and left. Yeah. They're Rayman.
[[WMG: The whole "the Smashers exist only to fight" in the backstory is simply an allegory for their status as video game characters.]]
[[WMG: Lucas came to [[RealLife our world]] and became famous.]]
OK, first, consider the character of Lucas himself. His name is ''Lucas'', his symbol is a ''planet'', his hairstyle is... well, let's say it's ''distinctive'', and he fights with a mystical energy that surrounds us all. He comes from the world of ''Earthbound'' / ''Mother'', which has very strong ties to alien mythology, so we know he was exposed to that kind of story from an early age.
Next, Lucas gets thrust into the Smashverse. There, he's a young kid who is not very corageous, but in the Subspace Emissary he learns to man up and do the right thing for the common good after Ness cares for him, and he decides to go on an adventure to avenge him.
In the Smashverse, he also learns (and meets, of course) a group of people devoted to protecting a huge multiverse from a tyrannical ruler. These people (the other smash characters; Mario, Link, Samus, etc.) have extraordinary abilities, but they're up against a group with similar abilities that uses them for evil. Also, note that there are many more good guys than bad guys in the Smashverse.
OK, now fast-forward to AfterTheEnd of the Subspace Emissary, when everything has been saved. Lucas, now an expert at leaping from universe to universe, comes to ''[[RealLife our world]]'', where he grows into an adult. He still has fond memories of all his adventures as a child, but realizes that in this world nobody would accept them as truth. So he writes the whole thing over again, changing the setting and a couple of names, and so it comes to pass that Lucas, first name [[GeorgeLucas George]], creates [[StarWars a pop culture phenomenon]].
See, in ''StarWars'', Luke, who is obviously another name for Lucas, has blond hair and lives a simple life until Empire agents attack the Lars Homestead. This is exactly what happened to Lucas; he was a blond-haired kid who led a simple life until an agent of the Empire, in this case Wario, attacked and "killed" someone he cared for, thus sending Lucas on a quest to avenge him.
In ''StarWars'', the main villain is a tall guy in black who wears a long flowing cape, but then turns out to be controlled by a hunched and even more evil figure who was controlling everything from behind the scenes. Ganondorf obviously translated into Darth Vader, whereas Tabuu was the Emperor.
The "good guys" in the Smashverse translated into the Jedi Council, whereas the "bad guys" became the Sith. Notice that in the ''StarWars'' universe, there are only ever two Sith, the master and the apprentice. This is exactly the same as in the Smashverse; Ganondorf serves Tabuu (or his puppet the Master Hand), but there are many subordinates doing their dirty work, such as Wario and Bowser. Bowser in particular is clearly General Grievous, because he transforms his victims into trophies and then uses their "evil trophies" for his own good. General Grievous steals and uses the lightsabers of fallen Jedi.
I rest my case.
* Even though this is about the most far-fetched thing I have ever read, I congratulate the troper who created this for having such an imagination.
** Why, thank you! I wrote a more extended joke essay where I plotted out both stories directly, noting the similarities, ("coincidence!? I think not!") and gave every ''Smash'' character a ''StarWars'' expy that matches, but that's too long to put it up here.
* First, I want to say that was awesome. Second, there is some kind of thing that you can put long things into on this site. Like it's a little button that says "long" and when you click it, it expands and your long essay or whatever is inside. I'm not sure how to make one though. If you look on the Franchise/SuperMarioBros page, I think you can see some and just edit to see how to make it.
* Ganondorf is Darth Vader? ''Ganondorf''? To say nothing of [[AngstySurvivingTwin his]] [[LukeIAmYourFather brother]]?
* That kind of thing happened in Lucas's own game, too! IT'S TRUE!
[[WMG: Tabuu was created from an unintentional crossover of the Creator/{{Nintendo}} verse and the SquareEnix verse.]]
The [[KingdomHearts Heartless]] were invading the {{Tron}} world when some sort of universal shift occured, spawning several powerful [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Noise]]. These Heartless/Noise possessed/attacked a computer program, which was written into the Nintendo verse. Thus we have Tabuu, who looks like a Tron program, creates creatures that look suspiciously like Heartless, and has Noise-like wings.
[[WMG: The Home Run Bat is the Casey Bat from ''VideoGame/EarthBound''.]]
It's a baseball bat with supreme power tempered by the fact that it's wildly inaccurate, missing at least 75% of the time due to the slowness of the smash (or SMAAAAASH) attack.
[[WMG:Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are actually [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante, Trish, and Lady]] respectively.]]
* Perhaps it was a VERY slow business night, no jobs needing doing and what have you. So they perhaps got some action figures out of Dante's secret drawer, figures which Dante and Vergil used to play with when they were kids. Call it killing time. And since this is [[CrazyAwesome DANTE]] we're talking about here, awesome can only ensue.
[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[FatalFury Terry Bogard]], [[VideoGame/ArtOfFighting Ryo Sakazaki]], and [[TheKingOfFighters Kyo Kusanagi]], respectively.]]
They're having a fight to see who becomes SNK's mascot.
[[WMG: The Void of VideoGame/SuperPaperMario and Subspace are one in the same.]]
They both exist between realities, have a [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple-black color scheme]], eat worlds, have a theme of overall emptiness, and a slight CosmicHorrorStory feel if you [[FridgeLogic think about it for a while]].
* And also Luigi's negative zone.
[[WMG: Suda51 created the graphics for the subspace emissary]]
Suda51 of ''Killer7'' and ''NoMoreHeroes'' was the one who did the graphics for the subspace emissary, specifically the purple world eating blob things. ''Killer 7'' had similar effects when an enemy was shot. Suda51's name is in the credits.
[[WMG: The Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are all elements of the kid's personality.]]
Master Hand is the side of him that likes creation and is responsible for creating the smash universe, Crazy hand is the destructive side of his personality that makes him want to force his trophies to fight over and over, and Tabuu is the side of him that knows how weird his hobby is. The Subspace Emissary is a metaphor for when he decides to put up his trophies for good (represented by Tabuu defeating Master Hand), but eventually deciding to bring them all out of storage.
[[WMG: The stages of all three games were brought to Smash World by way of Subspace Bombs.]]
Sections of Mushroom Kingdon, Hyrule, Planet Zebes, etc. (and Alaska) were pulled into Subspace by ROBs with Subspace Bombs. You get ring outs when you touch the walls of the bubbles they're in. This is also why the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule look different in every game they've appeared in.
[[WMG: The Smashers are professional wrestlers.]]
Nintendo's characters came together and decided to get into wrestling, creating fictional characters and storylines for themselves; they aren't really enemies, just faces and heels.
* This is why they all have grabs and holds.
* Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, and Young Link retired their characters.
* And why matches only end by ring outs? Because instead of staging mat wrestling or mixed martial arts, the Nintendo characters decided to be different and stage over the top sumo wrestling.
[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are YOUR HANDS!]]
* My hands do not shoot out lasers and bullet bills, thank you very much!
** Mine do, if I drink 2,000,000 truckloads of redbull.
[[WMG: Tabuu is [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] reincarnated..]]
* He wants to reshape the world to his liking.
* [=ROBs=] are completely expendable, and not part of his New World.
* Mr. Game & Watches are just weapons.
* Everything was created for Tabuu.
[[WMG: The ''Subspace Emissary'' is a TakeThat to Modern Gaming.]]
It explains why the landscape is so [[RealIsBrown bland]], most of the music is over-the-top orchestrations, a lot of epic character moments, and tons of gunplay action. It also explains why Mario, Link, Samus, Snake, and Kirby had such enormous roles, since they were characters from TheEighties, in which gaming wasn't about spectacular graphics or high-end commercializing, but simply about goofing around and having fun. However, it also mocks really old gaming, as ROB and Mr. Game & Watch are villains.
* You call [[SceneryPorn those backgrounds]] bland?
* Kirby's first video game appearance was in 19''9''2 -- but then again, his first game was on the Game Boy, and gaming wasn't really about amazing graphics in the early '90s either...
[[WMG: Master Hand is actually [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]], and he's trapped in subspace.]]
Think about it. Japan created PacMan, Mario, Franchise/MetalGear, Mother, and Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, all games spanning different genres and stories, whereas the only thing Americans created were games like Franchise/{{Halo}}, [[SpyroTheDragon Spyro]], SpaceInvaders, and many other games in which all you basically did was kill things. However, [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]] was one of the very few on the west that could impress the Japanese because the games he made were mostly built around ''creating'' things, like [[VideoGame/SimCity cities]], [[VideoGame/TheSims families]], and even [[{{Spore}} cute little critters]]. Hence, since Wright likes to create universes, he was "reincarnated" in the game world as Master Hand. However, the Nintendo characters feared his presence because while he did manage to create, he could also destroy.
So by the time we're in the Subspace Emissary, Tabuu is actually the representation of what American gamers want; to create havoc upon various worlds. However, because Master Hand (Wright) was able to earn some appreciation and respect with the characters (the different parts of the world), and Tabuu just controlled Master Hand to convince whoever wanted to pay attention that creating subspace zones were "creating things". This, of course, would lead the other characters to notice that something was dreadfully wrong, and well, it explains why people like Mario a lot again...
* One problem: Dr Wright's assist trophy.
[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[TimeCrisis Wild Dog]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Arche Klein]], and [[MortalKombat Shao Kahn]] respectively.]]
* Smash Bros doesn't HAVE to make sense.
** Furthermore, WMG's don't have to make sense.
[[WMG: Tabuu is secretly Bloo from FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends.]]
[[WMG: SSE is the Series/DoctorWho universe, in which the Doctor has turned evil.]]
OK, here we go, because we don't have a detailed example yet- Tabuu is the Doctor, turned evil for some reason yet to be explained, and Master Hand is the Master under his control, just as he initially intended. The Shadow Bugs are an alternate form of the Toclafane. The [=ROBs=] are an as-yet unknown hybrid of a Cyberman and a Dalek, making Ganondorf a physically superior Davros who does not need a wheelchair. Kirby is the Abzorbaloff. Ridley is a Reaper/Chronovore. Sonic is the meta-crisis doctor (all in blue, of course) who has dimension jumped to stop Tabuu. The Halberd is the Valiant. The actual world of SSE is Wales, the floating island is just Cardiff, and subspace is the rift. The Halberd is the Vanguard. Captain Falcon is actually Captain Jack, and Olimar is Ianto, and the other 'mercenaries' (Fox, Falco, Snake, Samus) are other members of Torchwood. Zelda is Gwen Cooper, and Link (Rhys) is accepting of her undercover persona Sheik. The Pokemon are all soldiers in UNIT, mooks that do their master's bidding. Peach is Sarah Jane Smith, and Mario is a humanoid form created for Mr. Smith. Yoshi is K9, and Luigi is actually the Trickster. That's all I can think of for now, but feel free to add more...
* Alternatively, SSE is a Doctor Who/Stargate crossover: Tabuu is the Valeyard; The Doctor AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence after his final regeneration (Daniel Jackson); Samus is a regeneration of the Doctor's daughter (can't remember her name), who at an earlier point regenerated into Sam Carter; Snake is actually the result of a noodle incident involving Jack O'Neill, the Jack mini-me/clone made by Loki, and Todd; ROB is in fact Dalek Caan; King DeDeDe is Merlin; Ganondorf is a much younger Davros; Pit, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic are Timelords who opposed James Bond; the other Smashers or Tok'ra of the Wheeping Angels/SG Team members/Companions; and all the mooks and elite mooks are (evil)Time Lords/Daleks/Cybermen/Gou'ald/Wraith/(evil)Asgard; The Island of the Ancients did in fact belong to the Ancients ([[NeglectfulPrecursors why the hell do you think it was full of Subspace Bombs?!]])
[[WMG: The Brawl-verse is [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Subcon]].]]
Ever wondered why ''Subspace'' exists? The Subspace in [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 SMB2]] and the Subspace in Brawl are one and the same. The entire world in Brawl is the dream world twisted by Master Hand/Tabuu to put his plan into action. All the fighters are dream versions of themselves.
[[WMG:"The Kid" who is playing with his toys as Master/Crazy Hand is, in fact, [[VideoGame/IWannaBeTheGuy The Kid]].]]
He's playing with his toys in elaborate mock battles as part of his training to be The Guy.
* Right, except for the fact that there not a single shred of evidence to support this anywhere in either game. Or maybe it's the fact that the first Super Smash Brothers game came out years before ''I Wanna Be The Guy'' was released, let alone conceived!
** Yes, it's true that SSB came out before ''I Wanna Be The Guy''... but again, The Kid was doing it in ''preparation''. By the time IWBTG is released, it's already time for The Kid to go out and be The Guy. So what was he doing ''before'' it was time? That's right. Preparing.
* The Kid is young [[JakAndDaxter Jak]].
* No, no, The Kid is [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Mr. Mew]].
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. is {{Smosh}}. Master Hand is Anthony Padilla, Crazy Hand is Ian Hecox, and Tabuu is the Teleporting Fat Guy.]]
Anthony could be Master Hand because in most videos, he seems smarter and more creative than Ian, and Master Hand is smarter and more creative than Crazy Hand. Also, it is not easy to pressure him into doing things (in "Going to the Mountains," it was said he is immune to peer pressure), but if someone forces him to do something (Tabuu forcing Master Hand to do his bidding), he will do it. This would also explain why Master Hand would rule over a land where figurines come to life, as Anthony's favorite movie is Toy Story.
Ian is Crazy Hand because in most videos (especially Food Battle 2008), he seems very angry and destructive, but not very smart.
When the Teleporting Fat Guy teleports with his Nintendo Power Glove, there is a flash of light that is almost the same color as Tabuu. Perhaps his Power Glove malfunctioned and trapped him in Subspace in a form made of hard blue light. Over the years, he could have grown angry at Nintendo for creating the Power Glove that trapped him there, so he decided he would trap all of Nintendo's characters and their world in Subspace.
* Jossed. Super Smash Bros. has genuinely funny moments.
[[WMG:Sonic was sent by Crazy Hand, who had no knowledge of King Dedede's GambitRoulette.]]
As many have noticed ([[X2X This Troper]] included), Crazy Hand was suspiciously absent for the entire run of SSE. There were no hints of his presence, even though his brother/alter-ego/[[EvilCounterpart crazier opposing force of nature]]/other half/whatever spent the entire game forced under Tabuu's servitude via Chains of Light. Then came the (somewhat) unexpected JustInTime [[BigDamnHeroes Big Damn Hedgehog]] moment from Sonic...
Crazy Hand is definitely one unhinged character. His EvilLaugh instead comes off as LaughingMad and his fingers twitch ad infinitum, unlike the more composed stance of Master Hand. Although many of his moves [[UpToEleven ramp up]] the crazy factor (to the point that he "spider walks" and has hand spasms that create seismic waves), Crazy Hand is ''more of a threat'' than Master Hand.
When Master Hand was captured by Tabuu, Crazy Hand went into hiding. Sensing that all of the heroes were trophified by Tabuu's [[OneHitKill Off Waves]] (and not knowing of the Dedede Brooches), Crazy Hand searched for any other possible heroes that could help turn the tides. [[CallToAdventure The call was answered]] by Sonic, [[ChaoticGood a free spirit who won't stand by when evil is afoot]]. Apparently, Wolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff couldn't be bothered, because the former two [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack were out on an adventure]] and the latter was ''[[WhoWouldBeStupidEnough too busy practicing for a concert]]'' (that probably wouldn't even ''happen'' if Tabuu had his way). After pointing Sonic in the right direction (i.e. Subspace) and sending the Blue Blur on his way, Crazy Hand laid low again. After all, if Tabuu were to find him, he'd have control of both the forces of Order ''and'' Chaos. And well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck that would suck]]. Luckily, Dedede's GambitRoulette only served to ''bolster'' Crazy Hand's plan, as Sonic then teamed-up with the revived heroes and finally vanquished Tabuu, thus reuniting Crazy Hand with his brother.
Long story short, ObfuscatingInsanity ''at its finest''.
[[WMG:The "original" enemies in the Subspace Emissary are alternate universe versions of enemies from other games.]]
Glires and Roaders resemble Flamers and Wheelies from the ''Kirby'' series. Shellpods may look like giant beetles, but in every other way they could be related to Koopa Troopas. And if the Ticken -- a robot chicken that falls to bits and releases a tiny bird when you destroy it -- isn't a reference to the ''Sonic'' series, I don't know what is.
** I didn't even know that the puppits weren't ripped straight out of Twilight Princess when I saw them. And the location where they appear is suspiciously similar to the Sacred Grove, complete with dimension doors to parallel the time door.
[[WMG: Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu.]]
(Original title was "Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu and Jigglypuff")
Or maybe I'm just a sucker for romance in a fighting game. Go figure.
* Actually, that does make a lot of sense.
* ...but by Pokemon rules, [[GenderEqualsBreed it means the original Pikachu would have to have been female]], and Jigglypuff male.
* Pikachu/Ditto anyone? I'm writing a fic to "celebrate" HGSS and Generation V. Consider this: Pikachu is top tier in [=SSB64=], as well as second tier in Pokemon battles, but only when holding the Light Ball... which is needed to get a Pichu Volt Tackle. By breeding with a Ditto (or another Pikachu or Raichu) Pikachu could be Pichu's father.
** As a follow up to the above, Pikachu is based on Ash's Pikachu from the anime, which wasn't confirmed male until after Melee came out, but before Brawl. Therefore, Pikachu in SSB64/SSBM could have been female.
** Considering Pikachu's Final Smash is Volt Tackle, which only Pichu can get (through breeding), this makes a bit of sense.
*** Except the Pichu in Melee is from second-gen. Volt Tackle didn't exist then.
[[WMG:The Subspace Emissary storyline originally had Master Hand weakening Tabuu so the other fighters could beat him.]]
The ''real'' reason Sonic is absent for so much of Subspace Emissary is because he was a very late addition to the game, stuck in when most of the story had already been completed and introducing him earlier would have necessitated throwing out a huge chunk of what was already present. However, based on events leading up to the final battle, it's pretty clear that ''someone'' or ''something'' needs to weaken Tabuu in some way to make it defeatable.
Master Hand features prominently in the storyline, even though you never get to fight it. Its corpse is clearly visible when the characters enter Tabuu's inner sanctum, so it seems like the writers originally intended it to play some role in the final battle. Furthermore, Master Hand is the only non-Tabuu antagonist whose name appears on-screen in a cutscene that doesn't team up with the heroes in the final battle. Rather suspicious.
There's also the fact that, well, even after being defeated by Tabuu, we can still see Master Hand's corpse. In all three games, when a player character defeats Master Hand, it sort of crumples up, withers, and fades away. This suggests that the corpse we see is still alive, but unconscious, perhaps because Tabuu still had some use for it.
Thus, it seems likely that the original script called for Master Hand to turn out to be NotQuiteDead, and use its lasers to cut Tabuu's wings, likely being incapacitated again by Tabuu at this point. When Sonic was added, the least disruptive way to stick him into the story was to cut Master Hand's final scene and let Sonic do it instead.
* This explains why Sonic can suddenly become a laser beam. They probably just let players assume that it was just Sonic at high speed; in reality, it could have been an attack from Master Hand, with Sonic noises edited in.
* Maser Hand's laser beams are continuous. If that was originally meant to be Sonic, it should have been a flash of blue, not on screen as long. Alternatively Geno; music of the maze where Geno is found was {{dummied|out}} off the disk and Geno also shoots blue lasers. It could have been both, even (two lasers were shot), but Square did not allow it, which led to Sonic getting shoehorned in.
[[WMG:The Pikachu in the original game died of old age prior to Brawl.]]
This is an extension of the earlier theory about the Pichu in Melee evolving. Basically, the Pikachu was in his prime during the original SSB, but, being a rodent, ages fairly quickly, and was on his last legs in Melee, explaining the significant nerf. Sometime between Melee and Brawl, he finally passed away, and the producers decided to evolve the Pichu from Melee and hope nobody noticed. Unfortunately, that required a Trainer to bond with, per how Pichu evolves in the Pokémon games, and after evolving, the now-Pikachu didn't want to leave the nice Trainer. As a compromise, they made him a character in Brawl.
* That or the nice Trainer is Samus, which dovetails nicely into the storyline.
* Pikachu have lived for 50+ years in canon. That makes this theory rather unlikely.
** In the anime, not the games. Smash Bros is mainly game based
[[WMG: Most of the stages in the series are [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]] versions of the characters' worlds.]]
Ever wondered why Luigi's Mansion is located on a floating island in the sky, unlike the actual game? The same goes with stages such as the original's Peach's Castle stage.
* Because they are table top the toys/trophies fight on modeled to look like a game world?
[[WMG: The world of Super Smash Bros. is only a small subsect of the {{MUGEN}} universe.]]
I think the title speaks for itself...
[[WMG: Master Hand will return and seek revenge.]]
In the next game's story mode, Crazy Hand will somehow get into Subspace and rescue Master Hand, who wasn't really dead, just unconscious and stranded. Master Hand will be angry that the characters who fought Tabuu did not find time to save Master Hand from Subspace, and he will create armies to get his revenge.
[[WMG: Tires don exits.]]
Or at least they're not supposed to. Except for Pichu being a JokeCharacter.
** Don't you mean "[[RougeAnglesOfSatin Tiers don't exist]]"? Still, that line is…funny in its own way.
** its an inside joke from the ssb forums.
[[WMG: Porky and his statue in this game are robots or Shadow bug clones.]]
This would explain him actually being here, as he [[spoiler:trapped himself in the Absolutely Safe Capsule for the rest of time.]]
Tabuu likely found out about him somehow, and not being able to bring the real thing to fight for him, had a substitute made. This could also explain why he doesn't look like the VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} Porky; the details weren't gotten quite right.
[[WMG: The Smash Brothers series is canon with all the series that cross over into it, and it is set in the Nintendo Universe's equivalent of [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who's Death Zone]].]]
Master Hand occasionally plucks several heroes out of time and space and places them into the Nintendo Death Zone in order to enjoy watching them fight, and then decides to fight them himself. As he is fond of the heroes and recognises them as such, he will always allow them to "defeat" him in battle and is never truly defeated. Tabuu and The Subspace Army then decided to invade the Nintendo Death Zone. Tabuu acquired the chains of light, which were powerful enough to contain Master Hand, and he wished to have control over it. The 'plucked from time' aspect also explains a few things. Firstly, Young Link and regular Link in Melee were both taken from the two time zones in Ocarina of Time. Toon Link and regular Link from Brawl were taken from VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] (as somehow, he can reach into numerous timelines). Mario is taken out of the events of VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine in Brawl, which is how he can have FLUDD on his back (even though FLUDD died). Wario's two alternate outfits are two versions of him from different times; Wario in his regular outfit is from his early appearances and in his ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' outfit from the events of one of those games. Dr. Mario was taken from the time of the game of the same name and this is why he and Mario can appear at the same time. The reason that at the start of the game Mario is seen as a trophy and is then thrown into the arena before coming to life is as follows: In Series/DoctorWho, with the arrival of a new Doctor in the Death Zone, the villian of the story recieved a small model of this Doctor which he placed onto a map where he wanted them to be. In the Nintendo Universe, it doesn't quite work the same, and when they are brought into the Death Zone, they initially appear as a giant trophy. Master Hand assures that the deaths of 'heroes' are not permanent by turning somebody into the easily revivabl, trophy form the second they would die; he does this because if they were to die in the Death Zone, it would be too damaging to the timeline. This also explains Sonic's appearance at the end of Brawl's storyline; Master Hand was free from his chains at this point and so decided that he would pluck another hero out of time in order for them to defeat Tabuu. Finally, just like Doctor Who, when they are returned to their original place in time and Space, their memory of the events is erased, which is why they are never referred to outside of the Smash Brothers series!
** [[BrickJoke F.L.U.D.D. didn't die.]]
[[WMG: Tabuu is a [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog Friend]]; Subspace is the Other Side.]]
He's second in command to [[{{Fantasia}} Chernabog]]. Just like the other Friends, he brings evil into the world by remotely manipulating other villains.
[[WMG: Captain Falcon is a [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Blaziken]] in disguise.]]
Think about it! All Pokemon in Smash Bros. have 4 true Pokemon moves between their Special moves and their Final Smashes. What are Captain Falcon's special moves? Neutral Special is a powerful punch that requires time to charge, and if the opponent attacks while it charges, it fails. Sounds like Focus Punch, doesn't it? His Side Special, when it connects, is a flaming punch, but not nearly as powerful as Focus Punch. Clearly this is Fire Punch. As for his Up Special, it seems like a Seismic Toss with a bit of flaming mixed in. And the clincher? His Down Special is a flaming kick. Obviously Blaze Kick! What Pokemon learns all these attacks and is famous for Blaze Kick? Blaziken.
* What about Infernape? It can learn all those moves too.
** It's Captain FALCON. Blaziken is bird-like.
[[WMG: Tabuu is actually a criminal who broke into Master Hand's house.]]
He ran in with a gun and held Master Hand hostage, forcing him to preform acts to benefit his needs. The person symbolizing Crazy Hand then proceeds to roundhouse him in the face and start fighting him until he falls down. Combine this with my above 'Nicholas and Tara' mini-theory for a better effect.
[[WMG: Sonic had never left subspace before the game.]]
For the sake of argument, this assumes that MH creates the trophies, imbuing them with the powers and memories of the original characters, then puts them in the World of Trophies to live their lives. He had just finished making Sonic when Tabuu grabbed him for his evil plan. Sonic wakes up in Subspace, not knowing where he is or how he got there, and wanders around for a bit until stumbling upon Tabuu and the others having a final battle.
[[WMG: The reason Luigi's Final Smash looks so weird is that, thankfully, YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.]]
It's [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Luigi in]] [[VideoGame/PaperMario a dress]] which, if rendered in full 3D with the Wii's capabilties, would [[BrownNote shatter the minds of every Smash player who witnessed it]].
[[WMG: Whoever programmed the minigame at the end of Brawl's Classic and All-Star modes really hates the in-game franchises.]]
You're shooting at the in-game characters. Enough said.
* ...you're shooting at the trophies and their pictures. Not the actual characters.
[[WMG: SSE is canon to the Pokéverse, taking place within Red/Green/Blue.]]
Just think of it. Red starts with Squirtle and later catches an Ivysaur and Charizard. He could have easily caught Pikachu after SSE, and he uses all four of them in the battle with him in G/S/C/HG/SS.
* Official artwork and ingame data implies his starter was a Bulbasaur in Gen 1 and a Charmander as of Gen 2, though.
[[WMG: Alternatively, SSE takes place within a Generation III/IV counterpart of Pokémon Yellow.]]
Red's starter was Melee Pikachu, who he raised the happiness of by spamming vitamins on her (remember, potions don't work at full health in Gen II and later.) Since Pikachu's happiness was so high, the girl in Cerulean City gave Red a Bulbasaur, but it ran away and evolved into Ivysaur, and was later captured during SSE. Squirtle was caught via the Mew glitch as Pikachu's Special Attack stat (the equivalent of the Gen I Special stat) was 177 as Pikachu was at level 89. Red then leveled Pikachu up three more times and Mew glitched again to reach ghost Missingno which increased his supply of Rare Candies to 128. He then bred Pikachu (who was holding a Light Ball) with a Ditto and hatched Melee Pichu, who eventually evolved into Brawl Pikachu after being fed a bunch of glitched Rare Candies.
Team Rocket later stole a Snag Machine and captured both Pikachu.
[[WMG: Red appears in the intro to the first game]]
The guy that walks by while Pikachu is rolling on a Pokeball. His shoes don't seem to match though..
* Maybe he doesn't have the running shoes yet. It was still Generation 1 after all in that time.
[[WMG: The World of Trophies is a reward for characters who have proved themselves popular enough.]]
When the heroes in the various worlds prove themselves popular enough, Master Hand, the embodiment of creativity, thus something that inspires the imagination enough would appeal to him, brings them to his world as reward. Justification: In the World of Trophies, most characters are pretty much immortal, they just get turned into trophies that can be revived in an instant by another character. The heroes can do as much good as they want and fight each other to prove themselves to one another, or just for fun, and they can go all out on the villains without a second thought because they can't kill them. Meanwhile, the villains can actually WIN and not pay for it, the heroes just get revived so they won't get bored from missing their rival, the world doesn't end ether, so that's nice. The non-Smasher bosses (other than the ones Tabuu made himself) are simply there to keep the Smashers entertained, and are brought back if killed. Master Hand is stated to wait for them to fight him, which is to test their power.
[[WMG: Tabuu is an out of control creation of Master Hand.]]
See above point. Master Hand creates challenges to keep the Smashers and himself entertained. He got bored with the existing villains so in the first game, he revived Bowser as Giga Bowser for something new. Then, when Giga Bowser got boring, he gave the power to normal Bowser and started on something new. He made Tabuu but made him too powerful, so Tabuu turned on him and decided to conquer Master Hand's domain for himself.
[[WMG: The reason why Snake says he doesn't like Sonic in his codec message...]]
Before Sonic was confirmed, Snake was the only non-Nintendo character in Brawl, thus recieving glory and attention. When Sonic was confirmed, Snake was no longer the only non-Nintendo character, meaning Sonic took some (or more) of the limelight.
** It's actually a voice-actor in-joke. In Japanese, Snake is voiced by Ōtsuka Akio, who is the son of Ōtsuka Chikao, who provides the voice for Sonic's arch-nemesis, Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik.
[[WMG: After the events of Melee, Young link, and therefore the Adult Link from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] timeline were murdered by [[WebVideo/BenDrowned Ben]]. Being replaced by the Links from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]] timelines.]]
If you take in mind that each game's Link is a different person and that the Smash Bros universe is a CrisisCrossover then it makes sense that Link encounters his younger self and Links from alternate realities created by the Ocarina of Time. But then, why aren't the Ocarina of Time versions of Link no longer present in Brawl? Well, Young Link set out in his quest to find his friend and ends up in Termina, which itself is an alternate universe to Hyrule which has counterparts of evry person of Link's universe. Ben is this universe's Link, manifesting itself as a statue when Link plays the Elegy of Emptiness, which reveals the true nature of his soul. There seems to be an alignment revearsal too, with the Dekus being, while not outwardly friendly, civvilized and lawful and the Happy Mask Man being rather creepy compared to his Hyrule counterpart and often speculated to be evil. So Termina's Link, Ben, is the complete opposite, instead of a warrior of light who brings salvation, Ben is [[EldritchAbomination a horrifying dimensional warper destined to ultimately destroy Termina]].
Being bound to Link's soul the moment he entered Termina, Ben forces Link's unconcious to produce a temporal anomaly (known to us as the Fourth Day glitch) that would free himself from Link's soul and allow him to get Majora out of the way. After torturing Link, Ben removes Young Link from existance, which in effecr also destroy's Adult Link and his universe , for Young Link no longer exists to open the gates of The Temple Of Time and pull out the Master Sword. Master Hand got notice of the death of both Links and the possibility of Ben spreading across the Multiverse if he ever linked Termina to the Smash Bros Universe again, so he cut off Termina from Brawl and replaced the old Link with two Links from different timelines to prevent a time paradox from destroying another Universe. Master Hand also replaced the Zelda from the Destroyed universe but since Ganon had nobody to stop him in Young Link's universe (Which ended up in the Great Flood which gave birth to the Wind Waker timeline) and The Ganon from the future being sealed by the sages into another dimension, saving him from the Destruction of his Universe (to be later released back in Twilight Pribcess)), The Ganon we see in Brawl, is the same Ganon we see in Melee. That's right folks [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Ganondorf exploited Ben's actions to his advantage]].
[[WMG: Smash Balls are the exploded remains of Tabuu.]]
Tabuu is light blue and glowy, with some other colors thrown in when he uses a technique, like gold-ish. Smash balls are light blue and glowy, and the character who catches it's eyes turn gold-ish until it uses its Final Smash. Therefore, they must be related. LOGIC.
* But if that was so, wouldn't the smash balls have the subspace symbol instead of the smash symbol?
* Not if he's dead. What is the smash symbol anyway? The symbol of the non-subspace world? Maybe they were imprinted with it when he went blooey and bits of him fled through the recreated parts of the world.
[[WMG: {{Capcom}} will make their own Smash game.]]
Think about it. Capcom probably has the most recognized characters besides Nintendo. I Capcom were to make a Smash game featuring characters from the various VideoGame/MegaMan series, StreetFighter, VideoGame/DevilMayCry, ViewtifulJoe, DeadRising, Franchise/ResidentEvil, and all their other series, it would be pure awesome. And it could lead to a [[CapcomVsWhatever Nintendo vs. Capcom]].
* I'll like to see them throw in VisualNovel/AceAttorney, {{Okami}} and VideoGame/MonsterHunter. How ''do'' attorneys fight, anyway?
** [[FingerPokeOfDoom Objection!]]
** Capcom did actually create a sort of crossover game that only included characters from StreetFighter, ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' and RedEarth, name of ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' or Capcom Fighting Jam in other regions. It wasn't well recieved though.
[[WMG: Eventually, Smash will take it to the next step and crossover with a crossover, Super Robot Wars to be exact.]]
Then we get to play a fighting/strategy game where nintendo characters pilot giant mechs to fight each other. Just how awesome would that be?
** Metal Gear vs Gaogaigar? I would've bought that game.
* With Anime/CodeGeass and Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann announced as debuting in an upcoming ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'' game, one can only imagine what would ensue should Kirby inhale Simon or Lelouch.
** He become the spiral nemesis. OH SHI-
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a weird version of the VideoGame/TeamFortress2 universe.]]
In it, we have two long-standing video game rivals, Mario and Sonic, who are red and blue respectively. Much like the rival brothers Redmond and Blutarch. Red and Blue are also team colors, and various characters fill the roles of their TF 2 equivalents.
* Mario = Redmond Mann
* Sonic = Blutarch Mann
* Captain Falcon = Saxton Hale
* Tabuu = Zepheniah Mann
* Master Hand/Crazy Hand = Announcer
* Snake = Soldier
* Charizard = Pyro
* Ness = Scout
* R.O.B. = Engineer
* Ike = Heavy
* Wolf = Demoman
* Link = Sniper
* Lucario = Medic
* Meta Knight = Spy
[[WMG:The deleted characters from Melee had their trophies smashed.]]
* Except Roy is the only one who doesn't have an in-game trophy. And with the exception of Young Link (who is pretty much reincarnated in Toon Link anyway) and Pichu, they were all clearly intended to return but were scrapped due to time issues, according to unused game files.
** What do you mean, had their trophies smashed? As in they basically committed "suicide?" (Well, as well as a trophy can?) Please, if you mention Roy, neer suggest that again. I hope I'm wrong and misunderstanding you.
[[WMG:Master Hand is the embodiement of a child's imagination, Tabuu embodies an external force that wants to destroy it.]]
Tabuu can be seen as a parent, a teacher, older sibling, etc. who seeks to stop the child's activities because he/she finds them immature and pointless. Tabuu controling Master Hand is the attempt at forcing him to destroy his work. The characters in the game are the embodiement of the child's fantasies, which give him the strength to fight back and keep following his dreams.
[[WMG:Unfortunatley, there won't be another Super Smash Brothers game.]]
* Some of the marketing campaign poster's and merchandise had the words "the brawl to end them all". I do hope this doesn't happen, though.
** {{Jossed}}, as of E3 2011. The head honcho himself announced that there would be another Smash Bros. game for both the 3DS and the Wii (or was it the Wii U?).
[[WMG:The player characters are all [[VideoGame/CustomRobo Robos]].]]
* Like Robos, the charactes are mere inchs tall and controlled by unseen forces.
[[WMG:The next Smash bros. game will be called "Super Smash Brothers Free-for-All".]]
Considering the past names were "melee" and "brawl" and there aren't many more synonyms left.
* Rumble? Skirmish? Smackdown? Fray? Bout? Clash? Fracas? Quarrel? Ruckus? Scuffle? Tussle? ..."Disagreement"?
** How about Smash Bros. Riot? When I first got Brawl I liked the idea.
* Super Smash Brothers Swoon[[note]] Sorry We're Out of Names[[/note]]
** Heheh. For a second, [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar I thought]]…
** Smackdown and Rumble seem like good names, but chances are, the next smash brothers will probably just be called "Super Smash Bros 4"...[[BrokenBase otherwise, the fans will complain that they're running out of ideas.]]
* Super Smash Bros. Frenzy, maybe?
* I'm hoping for something like "Dairantou Smash Bros GX" for the Japanese name. "DX" and "X" are already used, and they used "GX" for FZERO once, so why not for the next Smash too? Heck, they can even bring it to Smash 4 for US! "Super Smash Bros GX"!
* Alternately, they'll take a cue from VideoGame/Left4Dead and name the game "Super Smash Bros. Free 4 All" instead of using the word "for." The story mode may also involve the characters, good and bad, organizing a revolution against an oppressive villain, created especially for the game.
* I think Smash Bros. Extreme would be cool.
* How about Super Smash Bros. Rampage?
[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer will have a deeper voice in the next game, and Link will be based off the newest incarnation.]]
The trophies are updated every game. Pokémon Trainer is based off Red in his Kanto journey, where he was eleven. He's fourteen in [=HGSS=], which was released after Brawl. That's a sizable time span for him to have at least entered puberty.
* Or it will be a different Pokémon Trainer...maybe [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold/Ethan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Brendan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Lucas]], or [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilbert]]?
* Or Red will return, and be mute like he's supposed to be.
** Red isn't mute, he's just a SilentProtagonist.
[[WMG: If Snake is in Super Smash Bros 4, he will [[ActorAllusion mistake]] [[EternalDarkness Alex]] for Samus, then offer the idea/be suggested to that Samus is her descendant.]]
Then the conversation will get into ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' style insanity to mirror insanity effects (Bonus points for Psycho Mantis/The Sorrow appearing).
-> '''Campbell[=/=]Paul''': I thought I told you to turn the game console off!
-> '''Snake''': ''This isn't... really...'' '''''happening!'''''
* The character of Colonel Campbell has been retired. Jossed.
[[WMG: Smash 4 will be a crossover with a crossover.]]
The question is...which one?
* My money's on KingdomHearts.
[[WMG: Smash 4 drop all third party characters.]]
Because Sakurai was weary on adding them, did not want to go farther than Snake and said three tops. Smash will be back to just Nintendo but another possible game may become a crossover.
* This would be for Nintendo's benefit since Brawl gave free advertisements to Nintendo's competitions as well as some low quality third party titles. With them out of the way their can be more future previews to stuff Nintendo will make profit on, such as when Melee had ProductionForeshadowing for Cubivore, Animal Crossing and the Game Boy Advance Fire Emblem.
** Jossed. MegaMan is was revealed to be playable. Further Jossed with Sonic's return potentially meaning Snake could return as well.
[[WMG: The Pokemon Trainer wasn't catching Ivysaur and Charizard for the first time.]]
They were already his Pokemon to begin with. They had been stolen and released (or escaped) from PT, and he needs to get them back. Why he has pictures of Ivysaur and Charizard is to show other people what they look like. Like "I'm searching for my lost Ivysaur and Charizard! They look like this! -shows picture-" It's why he's in the middle of nowhere by himself when Lucas runs into him, he's still searching for his Pokemon.
* To elaborate further, PT started with Charmander, it's why Charizard is the only fully-evolved Pokemon. He then traded with friends/whoever to get a Bulbasaur and a Squirtle. He went and trained Bulbasaur to an Ivysaur, and then the SSE trouble started and Ivysaur and Charizard were stolen away before Ivysaur could evolve further.
** And it's why all he has is a measly Squirtle to start with. And then he teamed up with Lucas, and then getting his own Pokemon back would be piece of cake!
* So why do Charizard and Ivysaur fight PT? Obviously they are effected by the negative energy of Subspace and are acting irrationally (or if they escaped don't want to be with PT and are trying to chase him away). That, or Subspace made them like [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Shadow Pokemon]] where they need to be "stolen/recaptured" again to begin trusting their trainer again.
** ...this IS WildMassGuessing, and I get bugged by how people are saying PT is trying to ''catch'' Ivysaur and Charizard. But yeah, it's what I think. -shrugs-
* If my dreams come true, several of my video game characters will be in the next Super Smash Bros. Game. I've already been thinking of a good plot for the next SSB game's adventure mode.
* That could explain why he only has 3 Pokemon instead of a full team. The other 3 were lost and never found.
[[WMG: [=SSB4=]'s roster will be the biggest yet]]
* This is actually the combination of three separate ideas I had:
--> 1. The Brawl roster will be reused for the next game.[[note]]No characters subtracted, of course.[[/note]]
--> 2. The Melee exclusive fighters will return.[[note]] This I based off of how the Mario Kart series drops racers for one game and brings them back the next; Koopa Troopa, Baby Mario and Baby Luigi, and Birdo are examples of this. ...[[CaptainObvious also, they were almost put into Brawl, then scrapped]]...[[/note]]
--> 3. Highly demanded fighters will be used.[[note]] The biggest example of this I can find is that Keiji Inafune said [[http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/22/no-mega-man-in-brawl-it-seems/ he wasn't asked permission to use Mega Man for Brawl]].[[/note]] [[spoiler: This is partily confirmed due to '''Mega Man being confirmed'''.]]
** And now we have four: There is talk from the creators about the possibility of downloadable content.
[[WMG: The game is a PostModern metaphor.]]
In the beginning of the first game, we see a hand, the Master Hand making the action figures fighting against each other and the final boss is the same Master Hand. Master Hand is the hand of the owner of the figures and the figures must [[RageAgainstTheAuthor defeat him]].
[[WMG: [[BanjoKazooie Banjo]], [[PerfectDark Jonna Dark]], [[VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay Conker]], and [[JetForceGemini Vela & Juno]] were meant to be characters in Melee.]]
But, due to {{Rare}} being bought out by {{Microsoft}} this idea was rejected. Evidence, is with the motion sensor bomb in Melee.
* The motion sensor bomb was in the original to but they were not. Lupus would be the only character from that last game getting in anyway.
[[WMG: Otacon's piloting the helicopter for Snake's Final Smash.]]
He's the only helicopter pilot on Snake's Codec roster. The whole Final Smash seems to be a shout-out to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', so why not have his partner in the driver's seat? This does make his conspicuous absence from the trophy ranks even more conspicuous, but that's a rant for another time.
[[WMG:In [=SSB4=], characters will...]]
* Be offered as DownloadableContent
* Have some exclusivity between WiiU and [[Nintendo3DS 3DS]]
* And be transferable between the two consoles.
* Stages and items (like Assist Trophies) are more likely. Sakurai of all people would know that making things as important as characters exclusive in some manner would seriously stagger the gameplay.
* The credits minigame will be on the controller as opposed to the big screen.
[[WMG: Jiro from the new game TheRollingWestern will be playable in [=SSB4=].]]
VideoGame/SuperSmashBros is, at its most basic level, an elaborate advertisement for Nintendo games. Any character's inclusion (in this case Jiro) will generate interest in that character's game(s). It's in Nintendo's best interest to advertise this new IP as much as possible.
[[WMG:The lost cutscene chronicling the Subspace Army stealing the Halberd was supposed to introduce Mr. Game & Watch.]]
This is why Mr. G&W doesn't have a subtitle appear at any point during the Subspace Emissary.
* Then why do Meta Knight and Dedede have ones?
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros 4 will include character banter before and after matches.]]
Why? Why not! Ok, a lot of the characters are HeroicMime, PokemonSpeak or such, but it would be cool.
** It would be interesting to see how characters from different worlds interact, but I don't know if they would actually do it.
[[WMG: No Melee exclusive character actually left.]]
Hear me out, really. Think about it:
* Little Link(Young Link) got an animation upgrade.
* Mewtwo is powerful enough to have made an illution and we just think he's Lucario.
** Or we were playing as a Ditto the whole time.
** Project M has now hacked Mewtwo into Brawl, along with Roy, so neither of them are truly gone.
* Pichu, of course, evolved.
* Dr. Mario... is Mario. Duh.
* And last but not least, Roy ''is'' Ike. Yah, yah, I'm crazy. But I've always had a theory tha Roy was Marth's 'adopted' brother at least, and Ike would be Marth's twin... despite the canon not allowing that. But still. Same general move-set, same hair minus colour.... maybe it's that Roy knew he'd be kicked out so he took a make-over and got a new name. Or maybe this is one troper's failure to except her favorite character has been tossed aside like a broken toy.
** Project M has now hacked Roy into Brawl, along with Mewtwo, so neither of them are truly gone.
[[WMG: Pit will return with some of the new weapons introduced in [[KidIcarusUprising Uprising]].]]
* Something to replace angel ring most likely. Possibly a new final smash and or a replacement to the beam sword.
[[WMG: If Lucas returns, there will be a ShoutOut to the ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'' FanTranslation in the English version.]]
[[WMG: The Master Hand is the Ego, the Crazy Hand is the Id, and Tabuu is the Super-ego.]]
[[WMG: About half of the '' Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' theme music is actually about Sonic.]]
Imagine this: A world, [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters loaded with Nintendo characters]], minor and major (minor ones becoming somewhat major due to the popularity of the game itself), dueling among themselves in a bid to see who's the best. Suddenly, disaster strikes, and most of this world is thrust into a darker dimension. The BigBad defeats everyone in [[CurbStompBattle one]] [[TotalPartyKill blow]]. Then they get revived for Round 2, thanks to the work done by an unlikely ally]], and he tries his ridiculous attack again. A blue blur shatters the BigBad's tools, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome preventing]] [[TookALevelInBadass the attack]], and reveals himself to be Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. A foreigner to the world of Nintendo, and effectively becoming a BigDamnHero with these actions, naturally, he would fit with the lyrics of the theme. It makes a lot of sense, [[FridgeLogic if you think about it]]. Almost (from a loyal Sonic fan's point of view) [[FridgeBrilliance brilliant]]!
[[WMG: In the next Smash Bros, characters will be able to fight in water.]]
Melee had water, but it was purely cosmetic and functioned exactly like air.
Brawl had water, and it functioned like water, but all you could do was jump out, swim left and right a little or wait about 10 seconds and drown.
4 will have water, and it will be awesome rather than uneccesary. Characters could do roughly the same things in the water that they could do on land, bar a couple of changes to the standard attacks.
You may say this idea is stupid, but why else would they put such a useless mechanic in Brawl if they weren't planning on expanding- Oh darn, tripping.
[[WMG: Every game features a different Link.]]
Each game gives Link different costumes, slightly different weapons and attacks, and various other quirks.
* Smash 64: This is the shakiest part of the theory, given his entrance and since OoT was the only 3d game out when 64 was released, but if Pit, Marth, and Roy can do it, so can Link. However, his costumes feature blue, red, and white/lavender tunics, possibly representing the Blue and Red Mails, along with the Blue ring from the original. A Link to the Past gave Link much the same equipment (even the hookshot!) with a similar look, but NO BOW.
* Melee: Adult Link is undeniably OoT Link this time, and the boomerang is a carry-over from Smash 64. However, something stands out about Young Link that keeps him from being OoT's child Link: he has the bow, which he cannot use in OoT. However, in Majora's Mask he gets not just the bow, but the Fire Arrows!
* Brawl: Following the split timeline introduced in Melee, the two Links come from Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
* SSB4: The next game will probably feature the young Link from Spirit Tracks and the adult Link from Skyward Sword.
[[WMG: [[WorfHadTheFlu Rayquaza was weakened by the Subspace Army before encountering Fox and Diddy Kong]].]]
Given Rayquaza's status as the Sky High Pokemon and its territorial nature, it only makes sense that it would have tried attacking the Halberd, seeing it as a threat. The Halberd managed to overwhelm Rayquaza, forcing it into a lake to recover. That would explain why it was so far from home, ''and'' why it managed to be defeated by two characters that should be far less powerful than it.
[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a universe very similar to the show ReBoot.]]
The characters live together in peace until the User turns the game on and forces them to fight to the death. The character chosen by the user is generally safer than the others though. This is why the characters controlled by the computer all like to gang up on the human player.
[[WMG: Snake has the infinite ammo bandanna in Brawl.]]
That would explain why he never runs out of grenades and such.
[[WMG: The Hands actually belong to NiGHTS.]]
The game is actually a dream that the Smashers are having, with NiGHTS controlling everything. He/she never actually means to harm the Smashers, only wishing to have fun, hence why they only turn into trophies when KO'd.
* Think about it. The Hands are two disembodied hands with white gloves. NiGHTS wears similar gloves, and doesn't appear to have wrists, his/her hands instead floating inches from his/her sleeves.
* To further support this theory, who shows up right at the very end to save everyone? None other than fellow Sega character, Sonic. NiGHTS must've reached out to him in a last-ditch effort to save everyone.
[[WMG: Red actually has six Pokemon with him.]]
He just doesn't use them in battle either because of regulations, or he simply chooses not to.
[[WMG: In a few years...]]
VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! See! [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo and JohnnyTest in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and Franchise/WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright all the way to Timbuktu!
[[WMG: Tabuu is a ghost from VideoGame/{{Geist}}.]]
Look at them and know this theory only makes more sense if you know the two. The slight difference in Tabuu's appearance and his different powers can be explained by him being a natural ghost, not one created by technology and subspace is the same place the natural ghosts, demons and other monsters came from in Geist. The reason Tabuu could not directly influence the outside world is because no one was dumb enough to invoke him but he still managed to somehow catch Master Hand and indirectly draw the world into subspace anyway. This also means John Raimi might be in a new Smash Bros, because Geist is a Nintendo game.
[[WMG: There are Melee Pikachu belongs to Red now]]
That's why it never appears. This goes along with the "Brawl!Pikachu is Melee's Pichu" theory.
[[WMG: Real time damage will appear in the newest game.]]
The series has a habit of taking things left out of previous games and adding them into later installments.
[[WMG: The Beam Sword will not be in a future smash bros game]]
It had a nice run, but it will be replaced by weapons from the 3DS Kid Icarus game. A club, a cannon and two orbiters. Alternatively, it will be replaced by a beam sword that has actually shown up in a Nintendo game(take your pick).
* Maybe the Beam Claws from Uprising?
[[WMG: More character-specific victory quotes]]
In Brawl Fox, Falco and Wolf all had victory quotes they would only say to the other two. It doesn't make sense to not give other characters quotes like these also, even if it's just giving Mario a "So long big-a Bowser!" Though I'd like to see Luigi really rub a victory in Mario's face.
Furthermore, there could be more stages and characters who can Smash Taunt.
[[WMG: If Super Smash Bros Memories has all classic characters, even Pac-Man and Dig Dug...]]
* 9-volt of Warioware will somehow make a appearance. Let's check the major fact of this game. There are classic characters everywhere. 9-volt makes classic Nintendo microgames. It seems like a easy idea. He will either take 1 of the following roles.
** He will be a fighter, obviously. If he is unlocked from the get-go or unlock-able is up to you.
** He is either a boss or the final boss, and he has a move set of everything from classic Nintendo Accessories to the Wii-mote and nunchuck combo!
** He is the head honcho of the game, and will be allured to in the ending to classic mode. [[spoiler: When the credits role, the screen shall zoom out to show 9-volt on the computer working on his latest project, a all star classic fighter game, made solely on classic video game characters. The screen will end with 9-volt booting up whatever game the character you had finish on was.]]
[[WMG: Sonic reached Subspace [[spoiler:by getting sucked in by the black hole in [[Sonic Colors]]]]
[[spoiler: It could have been that Sonic never really (almost) did outrun the black hole (and that the black hole operated by the same principle as the Subspace Bomb) but in fact he REALLY did got sucked in by it and ended in the Brawl dimension, and he got later rescued by the Wisps to return to Planet Wisp for the end of the game]]
[[WMG: The reason Mr. Game & Watch has no concept of morality is because of the "Egg" game.]]
In that game, you're a fox trying to eat the eggs from hens, which could be considered an evil action. Since Mr. Game & Watch is a composite of all the playable characters of Game & Watch games, that character was factored into him and cancelled out the good influences of the other characters, making him have no morality.
[[WMG: The entire Smash Bros. Series is a game played using miniature figures.]]
The models were all made with no licensing or anything by two bored teenagers obsessed with video games. They were very low in detail at the start, but were painted with god-like perfection. They were occasionally painted with different outfits for fun, thus resulting in the alternate costumes that we see in every installment. The two teenagers had done a lot of work on them, but sometimes would fail resulting in the Fighting Polygon Team, every single one left unpainted. Nowadays they have a lot more skill, but sometimes didn't paint others. The reason for this is because the main painter had ended up with a problem with his hand by painting too much, now being known as Crazy Hand. This is also why, Tabuu, their latest creation, also lacks any paint on him. They managed to get a new painter in time for the next installment.
[[WMG: Pit will have Smash Taunts.]]
Just like Fox, Falco, Wolf, and Snake could talk to their support team on their stages, Pit will have a secret taunt to talk to characters from ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''. Mostly Palutena, but Viridi, Medusa, and Hades could also work well.
[[WMG: Solid Snake is a permanent Super Smash Bros Character.]]
With the announcement of Plastation All-Stars Battle Royale, everyone assumed that Solid Snake, being one of the reasons you bought a PS1, would be there. Well, now the entire cast for the game is up:
Big Daddy (Bioshock)\\
Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Evil Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Colonel Radec (Killzone)\\
Dante (DMC: Devil May Cry)\\
Fat Princess (Fat Princess)\\
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)\\
Jak and Daxter (À la recherche du temps perdu by Marcel Proust. Also, Jak and Daxter)\\
Kratos (God of War)\\
Nariko (Heavenly Sword)\\
Nathan Drake (Uncharted)\\
[=PaRappa=] the Rapper ([=PaRappa=] the Rapper)\\
Raiden (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)\\
Ratchet and Clank (Ratchet and Clank)\\
Sackboy (Little Big Planet)\\
Sir Daniel Fortesque ([=MediEvil=])\\
Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper)\\
Spike (Ape Escape)\\
Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)\\
Toro Inoue (Sony Japan's mascot. Originally featured in Doko Demo Issyo)
Notice that Raiden for Metal Gear Rising is on there, but not Solid Snake. Why is this? Well, it's simple really. Solid Snake is a permanent member of Super Smash Bros. The creators of Metal Gear Solid probably doesn't want to put Snake in what they see as a Rip-off, and Nintendo probably went into negotiations with Konami so that Solid Snake can only be in their fighting game, not anyone elses. So while there is representation for Sony's game from Metal Gear, Solid Snake will always reside within Super Smash Bros. No ifs, ands or buts.
** WordOfGod is that Snake wasn't added to ''Playstation All Stars'' because almost all the third party characters were included in that game to promote then-upcoming titles, so Raiden was used to represent ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Revengeance]]''. More to the point, Kojima also didn't want to include both Raiden and Snake because he knew people would make them fight each other to see who's better, which is something Kojima has generally tried to avoid outside of parodies that poke fun at the idea.
[[WMG: Tabuu is the personification of the game's save file/memory.]]
And Sub-space is actually the programming which is used to save data. Tabuu was sick of dealing with the player constantly altering his realm, so he planned on turning everyone into trophies--that way, they'll stop playing the game and thus his realm can't be altered.
[[WMG: Tabuu is the [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Walpurgis_Night Walpurgis Night]] of the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse.]]
In the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' universe, it’s established that Kyuubey’s race the Incubators travel to all sorts of worlds to search for contractees to become Magical Girls to fight {{Eldritch Abomination}}s called Witches. However, once these contractees descend into complete despair or use up all of their soul gem’s magic, they transform into Witches themselves, and then the Incubators collect the energy released from these transformations to counteract the heat death of the universe. What’s to say the Incubators hadn’t traveled to the Super Smash Brothers Brawl universe to find contractees to go through this unfortunate and deceitful process? In the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse, Tabuu is an immensely powerful entity because he is an amalgamation of these fallen Magical Girls (and possibly Boys, since WordOfGod confirms Tabuu as a male entity) like the Witch Walpurgis Night of the Madoka Magica universe. Also like Walpurgis Night, Tabuu is so powerful that more often than not it takes several warriors to defeat him unless one particular warrior is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSeyMuiJHZc exceptionally gifted or well trained in combat]]. Tabuu's status as the [[SpearCounterpart male]] Walpurgis Night of the SSBB Trophyverse also accounts for his diverse and deadly attacks in battle. Additionally, the large diversity of enemies present even outside of the Subspace happens to be Tabuu’s familiars, and the Subspace itself is Tabuu’s [[EldritchLocation Warlock barrier]].
But why is Master Hand, and by extension, Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario, working for Tabuu? Tabuu warlock-kissed Master Hand, and then the brainwashed Master Hand controlled these three Nintendo villains to perform Tabuu’s dirty work. King Dedede turns out to be the Homura Akemi analogue of the SSBB universe, since he alone already knows about Tabuu’s dangerous whereabouts and powers long before any other character, and has also developed some techniques (the badges) to counteract the Warlock. Luckily for our video game heroes, no one has to contract with Kyuubey to become Puella/Puera magi in order to defeat Tabuu, since all the video game characters already come with their awesome, enemy-defeating abilities. If Homura Akemi can defeat Witches and familiars using mundane, non-magical weapons such as golf clubs and military-grade artillery, who’s to say Ness can’t use his baseball bat or Fox can’t use his laser gun to help defeat the Warlock Tabuu?
[[WMG: Jigglypuff is a boy]]
It's only been heavily ''implied'' to be a girl.
[[WMG: Pokemon Trainer won't be replaced, but he will be aged up]]
Probably to his [[VideoGame/PokemonHeartGoldAndSoulSilver HGSS]] role of age 14. He'll look older, have a deeper voice, be taller..
[[WMG: Red will be named next game]]
Going by the "they're toys being played by kids" logic, the children playing with only new Red from [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FR/LG]] so they didn't know his canon name. He's popped up twice since Brawl, named twice.
[[WMG: The 4th game will not be a FakeCrossover.]]
* In other words, the fighters in Super Smash Brothers For Wii U / 3DS are the real characters from the canon games, legitimately invited to take part in Smash Brothers. There's a scene at the beginning of the Villager's introduction trailer in which he receives a letter stamped with the Smash Brothers emblem, and runs off excitedly by the next cut. This is proof enough that, at the very least, the fighters aren't just magical trophies that come to life when you touch the base.
** Snake's introduction in Brawl had him being invited to join (via the Colonel), but the game itsaelf was still a FakeCrossover. It seems more likely that the Villager's intrpoduction was as much a part of the in-universe game as the kerfuffles themselves.
[[WMG: The 4th game will have Team-Final Smashes]]
In Brawl, the cool big thing (other than Snake and Sonic) was finishing moves finally. How do they go one step beyond? By giving each combo of characters some kind of team-up Final Smash. It could be a pair of smaller Smash Spheres connected by a chain, and whatever two characters get them team up to do their finisher. Besides, the game is already emphasizing a little cooperation by being on both 3DS and Wii U, so including this could lead to a title like ''Super Smash Bros Tag Team'' or something.
[[WMG: [[VideoGame/SuperMarioLand Tatanga]] will be the BigBad of the 4th game.]]
[[WMG: Smash Bros. 4 is why Nintendo didn't have an E3 conference.]]
Can you imagine how LOUD the roar would be when Mega Man's inclusion was announced? They'd have gone deaf, no wonder they stuck to Nintendo Direct.
** But most people aren't allowed at E3 anymore, right?
[[WMG: The newest games will canonicalize the "It's an interdimensional tournament" theory]]
For years fans (such as WebSite/DKVine) liked to write the game as Master Hand taking characters from their home universes and making them fight for varying reasons. In the original trailer Villager is in his town and gets a letter.
[[WMG: Villager will have an adult voice]]
The source games imply the hero is an adult but the series ArtisticAge makes them look prepubescent. Alternatively he'll have a mid-teens voice, not quite too deep but not quite young.
[[WMG: Luigi's reveal will be the best one.]]
At the time of this edit, it is currently 2013, which Nintendo has dubbed "TheYearOfLuigi". If they decide to reveal Luigi as part of the starting roster for the fourth game this year (assuming that the man in green himself is being included in the first place), he will get a reveal trailer that is so awesome, epic, and amazing that it makes Mega Man's reveal trailer look boring in comparison.
[[WMG: The Subspace Emmisary is [[spoiler:actually a prequel to the Kirby series.]]]]
[[spoiler:In the beginning, the series takes place in Dream Land, which is not as bright as it is in Kirby. Here, every Nintendo character come to this world for fights. But, there are two characters who are indigenous to this world, not hailing from another: Kirby, who is a baby and trains under his mentor [[TheObiWan Mario]], and King Dedede, a penguin who tries to be an EvilOverlord, but isn't a very effective one. Meta Knight, a mysterious swordsman with ambitions of conquest, was sent by Tabuu to conquer the universe for him, but that failed when [[TheStarscream Meta decided to do it for himself and not his master]]. So Tabuu sets the game in motion to [[EvilVsEvil stop Meta before he can put his own plans into action]]. Dedede is initially led by Tabuu because he wishes to get rid of Meta Knight and be a better bad guy than him, but [[CharacterDevelopment decides to be a better person to save the universe upon learning Tabuu's true plans]].]]
[[spoiler:When Tabuu [[OneHitKO Off-Waves]] everyone, canonically, no-one gets out other than [[FiveManBand Ness, Kirby, Dedede, Bowser and Luigi]] ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic]]). Kirby is then [[HopeBringer the hope of the universe]] as he [[TakeUpMySword becomes "the new Mario"]], and leads his group through the Great Maze to defeat Tabuu and save the day. Afterwards, Ness lives out the rest of his life in his world, Sonic leaves in search of new adventures, Luigi and Bowser retire into seclusion (Bowser does this because with Peach gone, things aren't as fun) and Dedede becomes "the new Bowser" of Dream Land (only even less threatening) since Kirby's the new hero. However, as he dies, Tabuu uses the last of his Shadow Bugs to create a blue Kirby clone, who becomes the new Meta Knight. As a result of Subspace's end, Dream Land eventually becomes a brighter and jollier place.]]
[[WMG: The dark secret behind the chimney in the Onett stage.]]
Why are puffs of smoke periodically coming from the chimney? It's clearly summer, so there shouldn't be a fire burning, and if there was a fire, it would be one long pillar of smoke, not a series of irregular puffs. There is therefore only one possible explanation: meth lab. Yep, the Minch family is breaking very poorly.
[[WMG: Alternate Outfits]]
In Brawl, Wario had not only his WarioWare [[http://www.cubed3.com/media/2007/December/jb/waoverall1.jpg biker outfit]], but also his [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111229211606/nintendo/en/images/7/7d/Wariobrawl.jpg classic overalls]] as an "alternate outfit" selectable through the same way one selects alternate colors. In Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS, they could give characters alternate costumes that, while not altering gameplay, would change the characters' appearances and possibly even sound effects and voices. A few examples would be...
#Mario - [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/7/71/Dr._Mario_SSBM.jpg Dr. Mario]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/bb/MarioN1.jpg Striker Mario]]
#Yoshi - [[http://photic.slimemansion.com/windcrystal/image/boshi.jpg Boshi]]
#Bowser - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0c/Drybowserms.png Dry Bowser]], [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mehkl05wo71r0t8auo1_500.gif Bowletta]]
#Peach - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0e/DaisyMP8Official.png Daisy]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/fc/Peach_NurseOutfit.jpg Nurse Toadstool]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/47/Princess_Rosalina_Super_Mario_Galaxy.png Rosalina]]
#Pikachu - [[http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/79/Notchie-art.png Spiky-eared Pichu]], [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120618030859/sonicpokemon/images/3/34/Raichu.png Raichu]], [[http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-08/art/prsoa-pachirisu.jpg Pachirisu]]
#Samus - [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130406130409/metroid/images/7/7d/Mprime2_DarkSamus.jpg Metroid Prime (Dark Samus)]]
#Mega Man - [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616040814/megaman/images/4/42/MegamanMHX.jpg X]], [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722183558/megaman/images/3/38/Bass2MM10.png Bass]], [[http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/a/a8/Protoman10.png Protoman]]
#Olimar - [[http://www.pikminfanon.com/images/b/b7/Louie.jpg Louie]], [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130607182619/pikmin/images/f/ff/Alph.png Alph]]
#Luigi - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7e/Mr_L_Render.png Mr. L]]
#Fox - [[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123924/2982528-foxmc.jpg StarFoxAssault Fox]]
#Link - [[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7wchkTis1qgtyxi.jpg CDI Link]]
[[WMG:The fourth game's Adventure Mode will rely more on dialogue than Brawl's.]]
Sakurai [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=208299 recently said]] he's dropping cutscenes from the new Adventure Mode. Note that in [[http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/ssbb/3/1 this edition of Iwata Asks]], Sakurai talked about how important the story of a video game has become in recent years. This indicates that the new Adventure Mode will have to use new means of conveying the story. Since ''Brawl'' was on one end of the SlidingScaleOfVisualsVersusDialogue, why not take the fourth game to the opposite end?
[[WMG:Bowser's new appearance in the fourth installment means he'll be using more of the moves he's used in the spin-off ''Mario'' titles.]]
Particularly, moves from ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]]'' will probably be utilized, to take advantage of his new characteristics.
[[WMG: the combat system will be customizable in the new game]]
The reason that Mega Man had so many moves in the trailer was because the game will allow you to choose your four basic moves (At least) from a selection of unlockable tricks. For instance, Pikachu will be able to replace Skull Bash with a true Quick Attack and demonstrate other moves like Brick Break, Grass Knot and Iron Tail. Perhaps you can even change Final Smashes, with Pikachu changing Volt Tackle for Surf.
[[WMG: One of Villagers costumes be of the [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100817230632/animalcrossing/images/b/bc/Boy_AAA.jpg original costumes]]]]
He'll keep his shirt but he'll wear a matching hat.
[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer's Squirtle and Ivysaur will have fully evolved between games.]]
With their new mega forms, he can have three different final smashes!
[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch will either receive a DistaffCounterpart or be revealed as a Mrs. at some point in the future.]]
Just look at the track record of the non-clone characters that were introduced in ''Melee''. Peach is a woman. Zelda is a woman, and Sheik is no different. One of the Ice Climbers is female. Bowser [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga got a female form only two years later]]. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Marth's next FE appearance turned out to be a woman]]. [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Mewtwo's next movie appearance turned out to be a woman]]. Who's left?
* Falco? Ganondorf?
[[WMG: All three games have an overarching storyline.]]
* The first game was relatively simple; we only see the first stages of the story, but we do see some signs. Master Hand, behind the scenes, was experimenting with a miniature world.
** The toys in this game are prototypes of the trophy fighters we see later, and they were brought to life by the Shadow Bugs, which we know are a primordial substance extracted from the Game & Watch race. (That's also why Mr. Game & Watch isn't in ''64''; he was too busy being experimented on.)
** Later on, we see the Fighting Polygon Team; failed prototypes that were created before the toys, being of a very crude shape and keeping the color of the shadow bugs that made them. It's also possible that they became self-replicating, the shadow bugs reading off of each other and endlessly generating new polygons.
** The Metal Mario we see in this game is a more advanced one; possibly a Polygon Mario that absorbed more of the shadow bugs and took a more solid, more powerful form.
** Even the stages reek of deterioration; Battlefield appears to be off the side of a cliff, fading into purple. Coincidence? Then, the metal cave; that wouldn't happen naturally. The Metal Mario battle takes place in an environment that had absorbed the shadows and hardened as much as Metal Mario himself. Finally, Final Destination, which is floating right in the middle of Subspace; hell, we even ''see'' the clouds of shadow bugs drifting down in the middle of the battle!
* In ''Melee'', the experiments have succeeded. The trophy fighters have been finalized and put to the test. As the experimentation is finished, the Game & Watch race is allowed to join the others in the fray, and all of the ones used to create the trophies are fought at once at the end of All-Star mode.
** At the same time, however, the polygons have evolved into a more humanoid organized form; the wireframes. Even Metal Mario has reproduced into the other 25 metal characters.
** Battlefield has collapsed into Subspace like Final Destination. The stone relics that made up the original stage have crystallized and mutated into the metal, energy-filled form we're familiar with.
** Along with the evolution of the Polygons and the Metals, the first Shadow Clones have begun to take form; the Bowser at the end of Adventure Mode, which is large and unstable, even mutating into the horrible Giga Bowser upon being broken.
* ''Brawl'' sees the culmination of everything.
** Final Destination is still lost, but Battlefield's destruction has settled; it appears to be a distant memory, the cliff having been blown away and the entire area grown over. The unchanged form in ''Wii U/3DS'' supports this; it's gone through all of the changes it had to face.
** The wireframes have evolved further into the Alloys, gaining the metallic shells of their counterparts in the metals along with boosted abilities.
** A further evolved wireframe is Tabuu, who had become giant and gained the powers of the shadows. This is what allowed him to take action and set the Subspace Emissary storyline into effect.
[[WMG: Battlefield and Final Destination are the same location]]
* I've always thought this since I first played Melee, if one looks, the two stages are very similar. My theory is that the Battlefield platforms can merge into the floor, expanding it into Final Destination. I always imagined this transition between the two stages during Classic and Adventure mode.
[[WMG:An updated version of Dragon King will be a playable character]]
This could serve as a throwback tribute to what SSB once was, a.k.a. MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness. One of each for the Polygons, Wireframes, and alloys could also be playable characters in their own SSB roster.
* Bless our hearts, we keep hoping...
[[WMG:The Super Leaf from the ''Mario'' series will be an item in some way in the fourth game]]
It's been in [[VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand two]] [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros2 platformers]] for the [=3DS=], the system's Kart game, the tail appeared in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', and it has been ''[=3D=] World''. Nintendo seems to like giving this powerup comebacks lately. Maybe an equippable badge that slows falling speed, like the "Flying" version of Pokemon Stadium 2?
[[WMG: Little Mac will replace Meta Knight as the highest tier.]]
* Think about it, in the trailer if he performs enough punches to fill up his meter, he could KO anyone. Unless he doesn't manage to knock Bowser offscreen when the latter's at 0%, he could be overpowered.
[[WMG: The Boxing Ring stage is ''not'' the Punch-Out!! stage.]]
* The one we saw at the beginning is the new Final Destination. The Punch-out!! stage was shown to have walk-off ledges. The Initial Boxing Ring appears to have traditional Ring-Out gaps.
[[WMG: Little Mac will have a secret taunt...]]
In which he consults Doc about the characters he's currently fighting. Doc will then outline the fighter's capabilities, background, and a bit of snarky commentary. Because, really, they had to have given him a speaking role for some reason besides to give a few stock lines. This is doubly likely if Snake doesn't get back in for whatever reason.
