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* Confirmed. Megaman will be playable in Smash 4. AndTheFandomRejoiced.
** Along with a set of weapons and the [[VideoGame/MegaMan Yellow]] [[ThatOneBoss Devil]]!

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*** As unlikely it is for the iconic Red getting replaced is, they would be the best choice if he was. '''Torterra''', '''Infernape''', '''Empoleon''' are the only trio who could convincingly pull the Might-Speed-Balance triangle in their final forms. [[CompetitiveBalance All three would wear ring targets.]]

*** As nonnotable as Corsola is, it could be a very quirky and effective StoneWall.

*** There was a lack of thrid-generation representation in Brawl and with it being a fighting type Pokemon, there are plenty of moves it can learn. It could also be a partial clone of Capt. Falcon with moves like Sky Uppercut, Blaze Kick and Fire Punch.

*** While it could be seen as a clone of Zelda, Meloetta could have a vastly different playing style. It's Pirouette Forme could be a smaller, harder-hitting Shiek, while its Aria Forme could focus more on defense/evasion with moves like telekinesis and teleport.

*** Although it's moveset would be harf to figure out, eevee is still a rather notable pokemon that should at least get an assist trophy.

*** His leading role in the upcoming Pokemon movie and the fact that they will presumably add a representative from Gen. V would presumably give him an edge.

*** Mewtwo is one of the stars of the upcoming Pokemon movie, retains immense popularity to this day, and has even recently had a new form revealed for {{PokemonXY}}. Like Lucario and Zoroark, he would serve as the mascot of the newest generation. He would probably appear in his "Awakened" form, rather than his original form, to represent Gen 6.

** '''[[spoiler: Hades]]'''
*** [[spoiler: He's the true antagonist of Uprising and could very well serve as a boss, or a playable character. He's funny and if they added voices in the next story mode (if there's a story mode), I can picture Pit and Hades yelling each other's name again.]]

*** Unfortunately, that would preclude either of them from being paired up with [[spoiler: Lucina, if she appeared as either herself or a Marth alt]]. It would be better to have them as separate characters and include a few easter eggs for when they're fighting together, same as with the Star Fox characters.

*** One of the three captains from ''Pikmin 3'' will be a playable character. But to help separate them from Olimar, only they can use Rock and Winged Pikmin. Olimar can only use White and Purple. Both can use Red, Yellow, and Blue.

*** Has led multiple invasion attempts on Earth, is something of a standout villain that rules another planet, and is implied to be a some kind of scientist.

*** Some of '''[=DeMille's=]''' requests interested Sakurai during the polling so it is likely the game will get referenced in the future and [=DeMille=] might even become playable. He may need to be toned down a little since he seems to mostly fight at range but his gimmicks could still be interesting.

**** It's obligatory for Smash Bros. to include a "Japan only" character. Ever since Marth lost this title, Takamaru could easily fit the bill. His series was also represented in ''Nintendo Land'', so he's still relevant.

* Super Smash Bros already had some fanservice because of Snake's butt and Samus's butt and peach using her butt for some of her attacks, plus her breasts were upgraded in Brawl compared to Melee. Plus now we might have guest fighters from Teen or M rated titles. With the art director of Soul Calibur working on this game some fanservice increase could happen but with some restraint and not going too overboard, just enough to meet Nintendo's standards for what's okay but still pushing the envelope.

The ownership of BK isn't clear from a quick check (though Monolith's website shows very BK3 images), but Nintendo was very heavily involved, and with Monolith being one of the major contributors to Brawl and consider BK very important to them. Plus he could have an intresting role in any story modes, either recognizing the face behind Master/Crazy Hand (see up) or the whole [[spoiler:is actually TheMole despite being the main character]].

Of the series' most recent villains (not including remakes), he is fairly popular and would fit the Smash Bros gameplay well (unlike, say, Ashera or Ashnard). His rivalry with Ike is also a plus. His moveset can incorporate Eclipse (probably similar to Marth's Dancing Blade), and his Up-Special could use his warp powder (similar to Zelda/Sheik). He would also likely have Counter, like the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters. His Final Smash could be some improved form of Eclipse, like how Ike has Great Aether. Other than basic team color changes, palette swaps could include his ''Path of Radiance'' or ''Radiant Dawn'' appearance (depending on which one is his default appearance) and [[spoiler: a palette based on Zelgius's Begnion armor]]. Admittedly, though, his last appearance in the series was a while ago...

*** Link went to the Soul Calibur world because of Soul Edge threatning to Hyru, so Soul Edge could be a threat to the SSB world.
**** Voldo's movements are pretty wild as is Ivy's whip. Though the bondage gear might have to be toned down, at least for the default costumes.

** There's also the sheer awesomeness of making Pac Man fight Game & Watch.

* Honestly, I don't see why he won't be in, unless Capcom doesn't give permission for Nintendo to use one of their characters. He's got a massive number of weapons that could be used for moves (the Mega Buster, Rush Adapters, and at least 86 boss weapons (8 from Mega Man 2-10 and Mega Man and Bass, plus the original 6, plus any other ones that I might have missed), he's an iconic figure (he was Capcom's mascot at one point - not so sure about now) who played a large role in Nintendo history (the classic Mega Man, at least, is basically synonymous with the NES), and it would help to [[WinBackTheCrowd restore some of the public's faith in Capcom]] after some of their controversial decisions as of late. At the very least, you'd think it would make up for Mega Man's blatant exclusion from [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 MvC3]]. Sure, most of Mega Man's attacks are projectile-based, but if they can come up with a moveset for Captain Falcon, they can make the Robot Master weapons work in Smash Bros.

*** Felicia and Morrigan (or even Li Li or Q-Bee or Lilith) might not be toned down since it'd finally give SSB a real reason for the Teen rating unlike all the other games. Plus we already have Snake and Samus's butts.

* Resident Evil 4 was considered a big reason to own Gamecube back in the day. If Snake's license doesn't get renewed for the new game then there's a chance Leon could replace him and take over his moveset. Even if Snake returns, Leon could get in as a Luigi/Wolf/Lucas/Ganondorf-style clone counterpart to Snake.

Either an assit trophy would work as well. He can use his paraloops and masks to in his moveset.

Castlevania is popular and Simon was in the NES Castlevania game - arguably [[FirstInstallmentWins the most iconic of the series]].

[[WMG: [[Killer7]] crew would make for an awesome cast. They are sort of a cult hit and showed up on both the Gamecube and PS2. With the Smiths you can switch between 7 or more personals for several different playstyles and insane gameplay.

* Given that Raiden's in VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale, that seems unlikely - I don't see why they'd put the same character in both games, particularly when Raiden's never been on a Nintendo system.

* [[http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4 Quite the opposite]] - Sakurai stated that he doesn't want to throw in too many third party characters.

[[WMG:Snake will not return in the next game and will bereplaced by another 3rd party character.]]

* As much as the thought of Naruto spamming "[[MostAnnoyingSound BELIEVE IT]]" taunts in the next SSB makes me shudder, this is a possibility, especially with Naruto and other ShonenJump characters. After all, Nintendo themselves published the ''JumpSuperStars'' series; we could get [[OnePiece Luffy]], Naruto and [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]] (and SuperSmashFlash will become HilariousInHindsight). Hopefully they'll make [[Manga/DeathNote Light Yagami]] playable or something to balance out the hyperactive loudmouthed annoyingness.

*** Rainbow Dash should be a character because she would be better to constantly brag about. Oh, and Sonic will be her story mode partner beacause both are fast and blue.

''HarvestMoon'' is a somewhat popular third party series which almost exclusively appears on Nintendo consoles. Pete could certainly have several moves up his sleeve - he's a farmer after all so he has a bunch of tools and vegetables. If no HarvestMoon characters pop up as playables I at least expect a trophy.

Saturn Bomberman aside, Bomberman's biggest and best games have always been on Nintendo systems, and he's made appearances on every Nintendo console and handheld to date. His cartoony explosives would make a good contrast with Snake's realistic ones (and speaking of Snake, it would be funny to have the two recognize each other from the Dream Mix Tournament. In the story mode, Bomberman could be chasing after Wario as part of an overly-long CallBack gag. He could also draw upon his Charaboms (mainly Pommy) and elemental bombs to compose his moveset, with the Bomber Gear from ''Bomberman Hero'' filling in the loose slots. Overall, Bomberman strongly deserves a spot on the roster, much moreso than any other third-party character besides Mega Man.

* If the previous game was able to include [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]], why not Agumon.He would make a pretty good rival to [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]], as Agumon himself is the mascot of his own series. Agumon's Final Smash would be his Mega-digivolved form, Wargreymon.

* With the recent partnership of Nintendo and Atlus of making Shin Megami Tensei x Franchise/{{Fire Emblem}} it could be put into consideration. Plus the Franchise has been getting a lot of attention in the recent years. Flynn being the protagonist of the latest entry of the main series (which is for the Nintendo 3DS, no less) would be a nice choice, and also to serve as an introduction to the series. Although even if the game has an M-Rating (like Metal Gear Solid) it's themes are much more complex and controversial, which could be a reason not to include him.

*** Since Lucas is all ready using Rope Snake as his grab and his other thief tools may not be too handy for typical Smash Bros. special attacks. Once he appears, he can pin down enemies using his wall staples and then attacks any foe that gets close enough using various kicks.

*** Nintendo loves including obscure Nintendo characters in the Smash Bros. series, so why not include Bubbles from this arcade classic? He could stun fighters with a Sound Wave and push them off the stage.

*** Namco is helping develop the next installment of the series and Pac-Man is basically their mascot. Even if Pac-Man doesn't get a playable role he should at least get an assist trophy. It could be 8-bit Pac-Man from the original arcade game, who tries to chomp the characters using a Power Pellet.

** [[VideoGame/PacMan Blinky, Inky, Pinky and Clyde]]
*** If PacMan is a fighter this is a definite. They could fly around the screen knocking out the fighters.

*** He is from one of the most popular downloadable 3Ds games so it seems likely. He could tackle into people like Jigglypuff then either use his grind or claw attacks.

Sega seems to be trying to make this the modern GreenHillZone, seeing as it features in ''SonicAndSegaAllStarsRacing'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames'' and ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations''.

* The Imprisoned breaks loose and stomps around the level in a fashion similar to the Ultimate Chimera in New Pork City; players could stand on its head with no risk of damage though.

* [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Stone Tower Temple]]

If N doesn't make it in as a fighter, the next best thing is having his castle as a stage where he's having the ultimate battle with Hilda/Hilbert as the backdrop. Its the most logical replacement for Spear Pillar, anyway.

''Sonic Adventure 2 Battle'' was one of the first Sonic games released on a Nintendo system, so it has an important place in Nintendo's history. And the ARK was an important location in that game (as well as in ''ShadowTheHedgehog'' which also got a release on [=GameCube=].)

There is no Mother 1 representation yet when it comes to stages or characters besides stickers so why not? Once in a while Giegue/Giygas would show up in the background and attack and the only way you can avoid it is to sidestep dodge. If that's too powerful, maybe some Starmen.

It would be a moving stage where you whiz past several different Pokemon in there natural habitat. A lot of Pokemon will interact with the fighters (Charizard blasting them with fire, Tyranitar swiping at the stage, Cofagrigus grabbing players).

Either based on Medusa's castle [[spoiler: or the area Pit fights Hades in chapter 23/25.]] In this stage, it would be one of those stages where the God/Goddess interferes and attacks the players and like Spear Pillar, could alternate between who is in the background. Bonus points if Pit gets a CODEC like Snake and can talk to the God/Goddess in the background with Lady Palutena there and another bonus point where if Dark Pit is Pit's alternate costume, Dark Pit's voice will be chanted instead talking to the God/Goddess.

Yes I am aware that not every playable character in the series can talk but for the ones who can will get more lines. Why is this plausible?
* Because thanks to certain games like the recent Kid Icarus game Nintendo is becoming more open to voice acting.

* Super Smash Bros. vs. Capcom

** And no-one has even mentioned the fact that Square Enix made the first mario rpg (before Paper Mario), aptly called Super Mario RPG.
* (Not the op)I was thinking something more like just adding characters that were once on a nintendo system. This way they can still keep the nintendo theme, but have more characters. For example: [[KingdomHearts Sora]], the VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 main character, [[VideoGame/{{Disgaea}} Laharl]], and PhoenixWright could all qualify. Hypothetically, of course.

Or actually, many people are really just the influence of his power on other worlds. You see he wants to take over, but he can only project parts of himself into different worlds at a time, and after he had been defeated for the somethingth time (as things like [[VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards Zero 1/2]] , [[VideoGame/EarthBound Gigyas]] , [[SuperMarioBros Cackletta]] etc,) he finally got the idea to, instead of bringing himself to their worlds, he would bring their worlds to him, where he had full power, but he hadn't finished bringing all the pieces together, so they just fought a really strong shadow of himself.

* Solid Snake appears in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. He previously appeared in another MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover FightingGame, ''DreamMixTVWorldFighters'', which, among others, featured Optimus Prime and Megatron of ''{{Transformers}}'', who were featured in their own Marvel comic book, where they met Spider-Man and Marvel-owned characters like Circuit Breaker. Marvel, of course, has had crossovers with DC (and thus bringing in ''MortalKombat'' and a bunch of others), ''Series/DoctorWho'', ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and more. It also means that, by way of ''MarvelVsCapcom'' and others, almost all Capcom characters are brought in, as well as ''TheKingOfFighters'' (itself a crossover!) and numerous Tatsunoku anime characters. Capcom also had the crossover with many {{Namco}} games in ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'' which included characters from SoulCalibur so we can also bring in the GuestFighter from VideoGame/GodOfWar, StarWars and ImageComics. The two main leads of Namco x Capcom originally appeared in VideoGame/SuperRobotWars opening the door to just about every mecha anime ever made. Image of course had the reputation for the horrific DeathMate crossover which drags ValiantComics (the only name most people will recognize from there is ComicBook/{{Turok}}). Also since we have established Marvel and DC are part of this mess we can bring in their parent companies Disney and Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers brings with it Creator/CartoonNetwork originals and Disney brings DisneyAnimatedCanon and KingdomHearts. Naturally Kingdom Hearts brings along Final Fantasy as well. If you wanted to go even further, you could connect this universe to the [[http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm Expanded Wold Newton Universe]]. So, in short, SSB is the lynchpin of one of the biggest crossovers by implication ever.

**** If you like that, you'll love this: Fighter Roar appears in ''Super Robot Wars: Original Generations''. He first appeared in another Banpresto a game called ''The Great Battle IV'' which featured {{Ultraman}} and KamenRider characters, which brings in those franchises. ''KamenRiderDecade'' crossed over with ''SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'', which brings in ''Super Sentai''! And, if you fudge it a bit, you can also slide in ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'', due to a crossover between ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'' and ''The Next Mutation''. It's also not mentioned above, but, naturally, thanks to ''Brawl'', ''SonicTheHedgehog'' and pals are also included, and any crossovers they may have had. And don't forget ''AnotherCenturysEpisode'', ''Dengeki Gakuen RPG: Cross of Venus'', ''ShinMazinger'', and ''[[ShonenJump Jump Super Stars]]''! YEAH GUYS [[{{Fanwank}} THIS SHIT]] JUST GOT REAL.

*** We probably don't. It's all speculation and implication. Regardless, I'll add more to the list. If Disney AND Warner Brothers are implicated, then Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit brings in ''nearly every well-known classic cartoon ever made'', save for Hanna-Barbera. Backtracking to the source, ''Banjo-Kazooie'' and ''Conker's Bad Fur Day'' are brought in via Rare's former work on Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Cong Country. And according to TheOtherWiki, ''Sabrina the Teenage Witch'' had a crossover with Sonic in the Archie Comics. I couldn't find any links to Nickelodeon, Bandai (Pokemon vs. Digimon, anyone?) or anything extremely popular that hasn't been mentioned yet.

*** Nickelodeon can also be connected because of WesternAnimation/AdventureTime, FairlyOddparents and FanboyAndChumChum, because the same company (Fredorator Studios) made them. (And WesternAnimation/AdventureTime is on Creator/CartoonNetwork, thus the connection!) Also, the entry up there about Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit, forgot that HannaBarbera is owned by WarnerBrothers, so they're in the connection too. (QuickDrawMcGraw with his El Kabong persona would be a good idea for a new character) NewspaperComic characters would also be in the connection because of {{Garfield}}, as mentioned above, who references {{Peanuts}}, which is referenced by pretty much every other comic strip in existence, and there you have it, Nickelodeon, HannaBarbera, and comic strips are now in the connection.
*** But here's the coolest part. Transformers once crossed over with G.I. Joe. G.I. Joe has featured one Sgt. Slaughter as a character. Now, as we all known Sgt. Slaughter is a real-life pro wrestler, therefore bringing WWE in. But what makes this really cool is that WWE is supposed to take place in the real life world. Therefore, that brings in...THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF EARTH!!!!!!!

* this would also explain why Kirby can use some of his powers without eating beasties(am i the only person who dislikes this?), master hand found that those were the powers he used most often

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[{{Killer7}} Harman Smith, Kun Lan and Iwazaru.]]]]
Iwazaru has a smiliar stance to Tabuu, Harman represents Master Hand and Kun Lan is Crazy Hand.

It would explain the presence of ('''death spoiler!''') [[spoiler: Snake]], anyways. Tabuu is Loki trying to sew seeds of discord among the Einherjar, which is why the more chaotic ones were so easy to trick for him. Master Hand never actually existed except as his puppet.

** Maybe he's talking about [[spoiler: Big Boss? The Snake in Brawl is seemingly a CompositeCharacter, anyway...]]

** Even LittleBigPlanet has it's limits. You only get to make platformer type levels, and all your creations must be 3 layers or less. and you have to use the textures that they give you.
** If what you can do is unlimited (or at least has very large boundaries), you tend to just stick to a few things that works. This is kinda why ''{{Scribblenauts}}'' got average reviews, despite all the hype. Also, if the game is truly unlimited and has no boundaries, you tend to get sucked into the QuicksandBox.
* To paraphrase the almight [[VGCats Pantsman]]: one always ends up having too much fun screwing around in that vast world they give you, and subsequently getting distracted from any sort of goal and ending up bored.

It is waaay too suspicious that Sonic arrived in the nick of time to save the day, despite not appearing before and it being improbable that he could be there without, say, Tails and the Tornado, or some such. Tabuu was something he created with Chaos Control as a threat so that he could infiltrate his ancient foes of Nintendo, and take them out from the inside, knowing that no external force could really do the job due to their resilience and teamwork. Presumably, at some point after the game he assassinates the lot of them. Or perhaps enslaves them, it depends on if he's more angry about his parent company's downfall- the former- or his game's sucking, which would lead to the latter (he would make them work to improve his games).

** Alternatively alternatively, it was a gambit by Dr. Eggman. After realising the nature of his world (i.e. one that exists based on the popularity of the Sonic games), he realises that the Sonic world is slipping into Subspace, aka video game hell (see the theory further down about Subspace being the place where various genres go once they die), and thus decides that, if he cannot prevent the slide into Subspace, he can at least rule it! Thus, he unleashes Chaos again, who, after his defeat in Sonic Adventure, is far easier to control, but is in far greater control over its powers. After being given the Chaos Emeralds to consume, Dr. Eggman renames it Tabuu, which is just a pseudonym to prevent Sonic from stopping him. The Subspace Army, the Subspace Bombs, and the army of R.O.B's were all created by Dr. Eggman, with the Ancient Magister being [[spoiler: the one true R.O.B, who Dr. Eggman based all the copies on after being beaten into submission by Tabuu]]. The reason we don't see or fight Eggman after Tabuu/Perfect Chaos' defeat is because Sonic's hand in defeating Tabuu/Perfect Chaos is the other half of Eggman's EvilPlan: by appearing in an already successful series, he has brought some good publicity back onto the Sonic series, the proof being the lack of apprehension around ''SonicUnleashed'', despite the whole werewol f thing. Put simply, Eggman's plan was two pronged: had Tabuu/Perfect Chaos succeeded in pulling the Nintendo universe into Subspace, Eggman can rule with Tabuu/Perfect Chaos as his proxy, whereas if Sonic intervened and helped defeat Tabuu/Perfect Chaos, then the Sonic series gets a second chance at restoring its former glory and pulling it back from the brink of Subspace. [[Manga/DeathNote Just. As. Planned.]]

In short, a world where Nintendo characters (plus one blue hedgehog and a [[Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin rouge]] FoxHound agent) fight and turn into life-sized trophies upon defeat doesn't make much in the way of sense. The only way it could make sense is if, indeed, Snake is playing out a, albeit rather outlandish by Kojima standards, virtual simulation to get up to speed in terms of combat since the events of MGS 2.

* Possibly it was a mistranslation. Or even a purposeful mistranslation as a reference to old games, such as the phrases "Shine Get!" or "I, garland, will knock you all down!"

** Correction: Pikachu could in Melee. Many stories are made up(possibly) because everyone hated Pichu...yet missed him in Brawl.

** Various problems- Pichu evolves via happiness. Everyone hated Pichu. Second, Light Balls and Volt Tackle didn't exist in the second generation (or at least Volt Tackle didn't). Pichu couldn't have gotten it anyway, originating from those games.

This is pretty observable - they show absolutely no visible damage upon being sliced through with blades, blown up by explosives, eaten, and launched hundreds of feet away by a single blunt impact - the worst they show for it is being turned into a trophy, which can be revived back to optimal health with a single touch. The trophies are indestructible, as evidence by Bowser's attempts to damage Ganondorf's trophy; despite him punching and biting it repeatedly, it doesn't show so much as a scratch, and Bowser walks away, likely in full knowledge the trophy was indestructible and merely venting some anger.

Tabuu and Giygas are so similar and yet opposite to each other that this must be true - they are both otherworldly beings with immense power, but while Tabuu is a being of pure rationality, said to have great leadership skills and characterized by his elaborate plans, Giygas is an uncontrollable being of pure emotion, completely without any level of rationality or intelligence. Their forms are similarly opposite - while Tabuu is clear blue with a distinctive silhouette, whose form is iconic and imposing, Giygas is a red, indistinct mass of pure terror. Perhaps Tabuu and Giygas are alternate destinies of the same being (hitherto referred to as "Giegue" for convenience) - Tabuu results when Giegue masters his powers and brings them under his control, thus becoming the intelligent but immensely strong master of Subspace. Giygas, however, results when Giegue loses control of his power and it destroys his mind and body, resulting in an uncontrollable mass of pure evil power only loosely driven by his emotions. This also explains how Tabuu could gain the allegiance of the selfish Porky, who pledged his allegiance to Giygas until his defeat.

Think about it: The characters in Smash bros. are Trophies. The trophies are probably about the size of Olimar, (that's one talented trophy maker.) and Olimar is about the size of Kirby in-game. The ROB that Olimar was fighting was a real-world ROB, which is why it was gigantic compared to Olimar and Captain Falcon combined.
* Yeah that's always bothered me. But the problem with that is Captain Falcon was also tiny. Why would that Captain to be a different one than what we use to fight?

The only times that Nana doesn't magically disappear upon his death is when she's in black and red. Remember, black has to do with death and red is also violent, blood - and love.

Nana is ''mostly'' obsessive, but with her Red and Black costumes she obtains her possessive side, who goes insane with grief (not shown because it would take too long time, [[YouBastard you don't want to wait for her lust of revenge to be satisfied do you... Player?]]) whenever Popo is thrown away, and then continues the rampage that he was on for his sake. However, she becomes a much worse fighter on purpose so she can meet him again sooner. The other colours are the obsessive side who kills herself instantly to stay together with him... until the trophies are brought back alive and thrown onto the stage, where her mind resets and they are back to their original state of mind.

From the original game, we know that the Master Hand is a kid playing with his toys. Tabuu "captures" the Master Hand during the Subspace Emissary, forcing him to defeat his creations - i.e., clean-up his toys. Subspace is really just the toy closet. At the end, after mother/father and child have put everything away, the Sonic figure within the closet falls, inadvertently starting an avalanche of the other toys, at which point the mom just gives up. This also explains why characters are where they are at the start of [=SSE=]; the Hand was just playing with his toys, and was just experimenting putting different figures with different playsets (R.O.B. on a giant floating island, possibly an [[SonicTheHedgehog Angel Island]] set, for instance).

** Or Master Hand wants to make sure that his stuff dosn't get messed up, or crazy Hand liked the Gloves and somehow got some (Or might have borrowed them) some

** So pretty much the SSBB Subspace Emissary is the Nintendo version of the ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' series? That means all the crazy events that the video game character trophies/toys experience is actually the plot line the child [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZlPbljdSo imagines]] as he's packing the toys and moving to a new place. (akin to the first ''Toy Story'' movie, yes?)

Later on (Melee), Dad found another set to add to the first, but the elder son wasn't interested anymore - he was in a "Childish things are dumb"-phase, so he and the younger one played very similarily to how the siblings had done before, only that Dad sometimes used his left hand as well - as he in his youth had been forced to write with the right despite being a leftie, left became the "Crazy Hand" as he was better at using it for toying pruposes and the kid would always make his characters think "Man, that big hand is crazier than the other!". Now for the interesting part, Brawl.

Many years later, the elder son had become a film director, and remembering his childhood he [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome managed to convince the copyright holders of the trophies and the characters]] to let him direct a movie based on his memories of the toys, although he had forgotten some from the second set and also added some of the video game characters he played in his phase. The movie wasn't selling too well, so he let another person take care of the game adaption, that worked much better. This would explain why SSE includes at least some emotions in the cutscenes, why Master Hand's voice is different in each game - first they joked around with the brother's voice, then Dad's, and finally a professional voice actor's, and the absence of some Melee characters.

First of all, They seem to have access to other dimensions, as They manifest in Real Space as the the Orz. This allows Them to group together so many video game characters, by moving to their dimensions. The Orz are said to be Their "fingers," so by extension, Master Hand and Crazy Hand could be Their hands. Besides, Master Hand and Crazy Hand wear gloves. Who's to say that under those gloves are the Orz, where the fingers would be?

This is what we know about Snake's role in Subspace Emissary: 1) Snake was on a mission. 2) Snake is against the Subspace army. 3) Snake is inactive until Dedede is trophified. Since Dedede was on the Halberd when it was taken, he could give Snake access to the ship (somehow). Snake would then hide on board and keep a link with Dedede via the Codec, where he would act when given the signal and/or something happened to Dedede (only the latter ended up happening). His mission was to retake the Halberd, eliminate the supply of Shadow Bugs, and rescue any captives on board. If it weren't for the blowing up the Island of the Ancients and subsequent use of the gunship--as well as several other factors that neither Snake nor Dedede could have possibly known about--it would have effectively destroyed the Subspace Army.
* This Troper would like to add in that not only Snake was hired by Dedede but also Fox, Falco, Captain Falcon, and Samus. Fox and Falco were assigned to try to destroy the guns on the Halberd before boarding it and meeting up with Snake to retake it with him. Falco was falling behind a bit because he had to go and get the Great Fox. Captain Falcon and Samus were teamed up on the Isle of Ancients. From there, the two split up and Samus found the Research Facility while Falcon met Olimar, DK, and Diddy.

Imagine, Sakuri wanted to put Cloud in brawl, so he made the team create Cloud. But they didn't have time to get the rights from Square to use Cloud (who would be idiots NOT to accept), and they ended up Ike, another pretty boy with a big sword.

Here are my reasons Cloud was orignially in brawl:

1. In Brawl, Ike fights alot like you'd expect Cloud to, slow but powerful attackts, and a BFS.
2. Do you see many Ike fans around here? Nither do I.

* The problem with this theory though is Cloud is pretty much the biggest anti-Nintendo Final Fantasy character ever. ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was the first FF not released on a Nintendo console, and putting him in Brawl would just be a bit of a mockery really of why they left. Now stick in one of the VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI cast, and you have yourself a brilliant, deserving of their place third party FF character. And there a lot of Ike fans out there.

* From the start all that had been declared was that the characters would've been on Nintendo consoles. 'sides, Ike was pretty much one of the first brought out. If they were trying to secure the rights to Cloud they wouldn't've promoted him as early as they had.

* I wold like to move that subspace is the embodiment of games and genres becoming forgotten in the "Current Gen," the place where games are forgotten by all ether by means of time or by the newer game being horrid (Hence why Sonic was in subspace). The Stadium geting Subspaced at the start represents the genre of 2D fighters dying out for example, it would also explain Jiggly
puff, Wolf and Toon Link being trapped in Subspace (their doors don't appear until Tabuu is destroyed) as Jigglypuff is from the first generation of Pokemon games and now 1 of 649 Monsters to think about, Wolf debuted on the N64, which isn't well received and Toon Link started in Wind Waker, a game vilified for its art style in the shadow of the Spaceworld 2001 tech demo.
* Sonic survived in subspace because people still remember how good the original Sonic Trilogy, CD, Chaotix, the handhelds, and the adventure games were, he was waiting for the right moment to strike against Tabuu, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Sonic Rush, and (to a lesser extent) Sonic Rivals gave him the means to fight back, just as he was about to Red Ring everyone a second time.

* It could stand for reason, then, that Tabuu might actually be the embodiment of the Video Game Market Crash of 83. He stands for the flood of shovelware that was released and the poor quality games of famous franchises (ET and Pac-Man) and is the spirit of all the quality games that should have been and yet were not ether because people overestimated technology, rushed the game though development or were never able to develop them due to market conditions.
** Tabuu, cursed to eternally be the embodiment of "what ifs" and "never-nevers," wishes to subject the Smash Brothers world (The embodiment of Nintendo (And Konami and Sega by proxy) ) to the horror and despair the Video Game industry's follies and have the world and it's inhabitants consumed into subspace (The video game equivalent of hell, not Super Paper Mario's Underwhere, just so we're clear on that) so it may force all to wallow in it's eternal damnation in some sort of sick, condemned, entertainment.
*** So, yes, Tabuu is more or less the Video Game equivalent of the [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Anti-Spirals]]

**** Furthermore, Peach is Nia, Rossiu is the Ancient Minister [[spoiler: who wants to save as many of his people as possible and later realizes the error of his ways]], and Bowser is Guame.

* Let me drive this even further. Mario and Kirby were the two first characters, which makes sense since these seemt to be some of the most popular characters around. Zelda and Peach are equally powerful due to their series's popularity. Peach getting captured by Wario (this way makes more sense) signifies Wario getting more popular than mario, and is also why Mario seems helpless alot of the time later on. Yoshi was a new series and slowly gaining popularity, which might be why he's shown waking up the first time you see him. Kirby has about the same amount of strength the whole way through. Dedede is revealed pretty early on, which makes sense since he was Kirbies first boss. And as even MORE "proof" Olimar is quite weak and scared when he first arrives, because at that point in the nintendo timeline he was a new character. Captain Falcon, on the otherhand was part of a popular racing game series which is why he's so powerful, plus his Falcon Punch made him perminantly famous. Especially with the Metroid Prime area, since about that point, new F-Zero games started getting released on newer consoles. And if you thought that was impressive, Sonic appearing near the end (and quite powerful at that point as well) symbolises that he could survive in Subspace as mentioned earlier, and also that nintendo expect the newer sonic games to be alot better. I am good at this.

* Oh your so imaginative! No one has thought of that pairing before!

An alternate (and somehow even more provable) theory is, that none of the characters in SSBB is the actual hero from their universes, but just copies that were made for the one reason of fighting each other in epic battles. (And if this one was already proven by TheWordOfGod, please don't rip my head off)

* I was once told that the original ending for Mother 3 would involve Ness time-traveling after Porky and battling with him before being forced to kill him. Rather then the whole Absolutely Safe Machine business. When I heard, I just immediately figured, "Huh. That's where they got that scene from Brawl." Thus NESS is the time-traveler here. Not Lucas.

* …That makes Porky the time traveler, not Lucas. And what does Ness having been in SSB and SSBM have anything to do with this? In any case, the problem is that there are too many in-game inconsistencies for Lucas to be the original from Mother 3. Like the fact that he's still faint-hearted and timid (age 9 at the very least), while in Mother 3, he learns PSI when he's already grown a spine (age 12 at most). And if the player decided to destroy the King P statue before confronting Porky, what's it doing in Brawl? If Porky pulled Lucas away before he managed to reach New Pork City, therefore preventing the statue paradox, when did Kumatora find the time to teach him all her PSI moves, including Starstorm? Someone should make a WMG solving all this… Then again, it's already canon that everyone's a trophy (right?), and there would be a ton of trouble explain the presence of the other Smashers…

** This troper believes that all [=ROBs=] used to be trophies, but the newer [=ROBs=] were built using subspace tools, so they leave no trophies. Maybe there's a big stash of old ROB trophies somewhere in subpspace.

** At the most I'm betting it'd just a ShoutOut, sadly.
*** I like to think it is atleast an equivilant of Angel Island. Maybe in the next game sonic will visit the island and find the hidden Master Emerald or something.

*** "A few more mountains" is a pretty huge understatement. Angel Island's got a lot more altitude to it. And if you compare it to the Sonic Adventure version, which has a much, MUCH larger 'underside' they look even less alike.
* Its probably ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog's Angel Island. All the labs are abandoned ancient Echidna technology, or Dark Legion bases. Nobody uses them, and they were sealed away. Until Dr. Eggman got hired by Ganondorf to conquer Angel Island. He then roboticised all the Echidnas turning them into ROB's, and Knuckles became the Ancient Minister. Then ordered them to bring out all the technology they had. And as soon as Eggman finished taking complete control, [[HijackedByGanon Ganondorf]] betrayed [[TheManBehindTheMan him]]. And he's never heard from for the rest of the game.

Now, in Super Mario RPG, the Star Road was broken and and its pieces were scattered all over the Mushroom Kingdom. Kirby, the appointed guardian of peoples' dreams - peoples' wishes - realizes he has to go down and help recover them, but he can't take his original form outside of Dream Land [[spoiler:(for some random, arbitrary reason that I haven't figured out yet. Someone help me out here.)]]. So he sends his spirit down to inhabit - you guessed it - the body of a powerful-looking wooden puppet that shoots bullets out of his elbows.

* Have you considered teh possibility that Kirby ''is'' a dream and dreams basically can't exist outside Dream Land? I mean, do you see unrealistic things like Kirby in Real Life? Maybe a stretch, but...

Also, it is through Miyamoto's power that Sonic et al. became real, because most non-Nintendo video games are fake. (Snake is the exception, his exploits-- which happened in OUR world-- were covered up.)

It makes sense. If the Brawl verse is a kid playing with his trophies, and Tabuu is his angry dad, he could have a sibling. This means that, in order to cheer hir kid brother up, s/he would take out a trophy s/he had--Snake. But because s/he's not familiar with the setting, s/he constantly points things out that seem normal to Master Hand.

* This was my theory- he needed to take that big of a run up to hit Tabuu that hard. And since there's no Speed Force in Sonic, he didn't have to worry about that.

Even if we assume that the Master Hand was creative enough to at least partially come up with the backstory for the Subspace Emissary on his own (Whether Tabuu is an extra-dimensional being, MH's Father, or being controlled by him), this doesn't explain why he has a ridiculous amount of trophies lying around. Even if we assume his parents are extremely rich, this still doesn't explain why Master Hand chooses only to use trophies when action figures are much more useful for doing pretend fighting. Either MH is a big enough fanboy to only use Nintendo trophies, or there's a more pragmatic reason he has both a ridiculous number of trophies, and chooses only to use those. This can be explained by Master Hand actually being a tabletop gamer Nintendo fanboy. The trophies are actually miniatures, and Master Hand is the GM. Before you ask "But wait! Super Smash Brothers is a fighting game, not an RPG!", that's because you're just seeing the battles from the point of view of the characters. In the real world, they're all rolling dice to see whether their attacks hit. [[spoiler: Okay, so it's not actually all that likely, but it's still an interesting idea that lets you see everything from an entirely different perspective. ]]

* Or the characters do die in game, but this system just has [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist absurdly lenient revive system]].

** Dude, I hope you're joking. It's just a game and this is (probably a joke theory.
** Plus, Smash Bros has it's own canon. Zelda is still...herself in The LOZ canon.

* He wears a red and blue costume, has a similar name- "Super Mario"- gains special abilities from the environment of his adopted homeworld (tieing in with the "mushroom kingdom has lesser gravity" theory mentioned above- which was the same explanation for Superman's powers in the original stories from the 30's- note original Superman had the same basic powerset as Mario- super strength, speed, and enhanced jumping ability), and is the primary hero in his universe. Most of Mario's additional powers come from plant life, such as mushrooms and fire flowers, which absorb sunlight through photosynthesis- similarly to Superman's solar fueled powers. Note that Mario's powerup abilities are similar to those of Superman-
* Fireflower- Heat vision
* Starman- Invulnerability
* Raccoon/Cape/Wing Cap/Redstar- Flight (especially the cape)

** Yes this is a very loose connection, but consider the Tangent universe Superman, a bald black guy with ESP, and the numerous other bizarre elseworlds versions (German Expressionist Superman anyone?) and its relatively believable.

* To really run this into the ground, Samus is Wonderwoman (raised in a isolated, utopian society and granted powers by the gifts of the gods/ sufficiently advanced aliens), Mew is the Martian Manhunter (Pokemon could be from mars right?) Team Starfox are the Blackhawks (elite freelance mercenary unit of pilots), and they all live on Earth 64.

**** Considering how Kirby is a Warpstar Knight, he may be the analogue of another interplanatary law-enforcement officer- Green Lantern.

*** Ra's Al Ghul would be a better fit- immortal meglomaniac with a sweet cape (needs to be a trope), and a love of engaging the hero in dramatic climactic swordfights? Obviously, skull-kid is scarecrow, while the Dekus and Gorrons are races progenated by the benevolent counterparts of Posion Ivy and Clayface respectively.

* Having played sub-space emmissary, and taking the above into account this troper can now confirm that Master Hand is the Monitor, Crazy Hand is the Anti-monitor, and Tabuu is Superboy Prime- he was the protagonist of a game that Nintendo never got around to making (possibly Project H.A.M.M.E.R), and like Superboy-Prime, is taking his revenge on the core universe for his lost chance to be a hero.

* Bowser is a fusion of Pre-crisis Lex Luthor and Doomsday- He has the formers meglomania, and penchant for insane schemes, but not his mad science skills (which seem to have gone to Bowser Junior), and the latters physical power and immortality, but not his adaption abilities (note that lava hurts him in both the original Supermario Bros, and Supermario Galaxy).

** However the Sonic/Goku distinction works better IMO because it lampshades his cross continuity rivalry with Superman/Mario. **Lucario could be Ironfist if Marvel characters are included, if not than he could be bronze tiger or some other martial artist. **Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo, Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).

Both have a white/whitish and purple color scheme, both use telekinesis, both are uber powerfull, they both have tails.... Coincidence? I think ''NOT!''
* And he was replaced by Lucario who is similar to -and voice acted by the same person as-Goku.
** Alt theory...he could be another one of Frieza's race.

Tabuu is from an alternate universe, where instead of there being a creative and a destructive, Tabuu is both at once. Since this is an alternate version of the Brawl universe, all the characters in this alternate world are similar but different. Maybe he's a Nintendo fan, or maybe it's just a coincidence.

Whatever the case, Crazy Hand makes the subspace dimension, which explains it's destructive power, and uses it as a bridge between dimensions. Crazy heads into Tabuu's world and forces him into subpspace, then closes the portal behind him, explaining why Crazy isn't in the Brawl storyline.

Then Tabuu appropriately goes mad and uses subspace to get revenge by destroying what he thinks is Crazy's universe, in a way, he chose the right place, but destroying it would only make Crazy happier. Anyway, Tabuu starts his evil plan to destroy Crazy's own personal world using the power of the subspace dimension, and meanwhile Crazy is tearing his universe into confetti. The reason why Tabuu doesn't destroy things, and instead creates the "great maze" is because he's trying to rebuild his own universe. Of course, the Heroes trophify/destroy him, and before Subspace closes, Crazy returns through it. Essentially dooming a entire universe forever with his power.

First we had Wham Bam Rock in ''Kirby Super Star'', with stone hands that did a lot of the things that Master Hand does, swatting smashing, grabbing, etc. Then in Kirby Super Star Ultra, we get Wham Bam Jewel, who upgrades to using Master-Hand style finger gun moves and such. He will most likely continue to escalate his form until he reaches a godlike amount of power, perhaps with a wish from NOVA, and become Wham Bam Master.

In a parallel to the above, we see Master and Crazy Hand in the Mirror World in ''Kirby: The Amazing Mirror''. The Mirror World has opposite copies of several Kirby characters: Kirby himself, [[spoiler:Meta Knight]], and Whispy Woods (King Golem) to name a few. Wham Bam Rock is a deity-looking stone idol with unattatched hands made of stone. Master and Crazy hand ''are'' deities with perfectly humanlike hands. Both have very similar attack patterns, although Wham Bam tends to use falling stones more then lasers. Just close enough to be fitting, and yet worlds apart in implementation.

* Actually he's a program '''written''' by Dr Manhattan, which is why he looks kinda like him, because {{Tron}} looked like his creator too.

Some time later, he finds the King Dedede, Ness, and Luigi trophies. Hit with waves of nostalgia, he decides to look into the online presence of trophy collectors and finds a surprisingly active and friendly community - people the same age as him, even. He's finally inspired to bring the collection out of storage by someone whose favourite trophy is Sonic. He gets into further arguments now and then, but Tabuu's wings have been clipped, and Master Hand shines even brighter for it. He then goes and buys Toon Link and Wolf.

* Evidence 1: 3 of his costumes are stereotypical "pimp colours" (Pink, Baby blue and Purple) and his normal outfit is red which means he flys the flags of a Blood. He also has the {{Playboy}} logo on the back of his Pimp coat.
* Evidence 2: When he trophyfies Luigi, which is his way of making you a hoe he gives him a pimp slap, to show him who's boss.

* Evidence 4: In the SSE lives in the Playboy Mansion.
* Evidence 5: When Bowser wrecks Dedede's mansion Dedede looks up and just let's a huge concrete block knock him out, obviously because he smoked one too many doobies and it messed up his reflexes.
* Evidence 6: As soon as all the fighters are beaten by Tabuu the badges activate because that means he was not one to buy the services of his ladies.

** That doesn't sound right to me- That's about the age you ''stop'' playing with toys. Unless this kid has some weird, weird interests.... Rule 34 and all that... But if that were true, the game wouldn't be about Nintendo Characters ''fighting.''
*** Which is why he doesn't show up until ''Melee''- at which point the kid has entered middle school and is having trouble putting away his toys/experiencing an awkward sexual awakening. By the time he's in high school, he's done with the toys and has settled for writing Nintendo crossover fanfiction (SSE), which in turn explains why Crazy Hand doesn't show up in SSE.

* They look exactly alike Tabuu has the neon glow. Also helps that ''Tron'' has been a world in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. And that the two games happen to share a scenario writer. This, of course, has the supplementary WMG that ''Brawl'' is in fact a game on Ansem's computer network, because his apprentices loved to have late night Smash Bros. marathons.

See, in ''StarWars'', Luke, who is obviously another name for Lucas, has blond hair and lives a simple life until Empire agents attacks the Lars Homestead. This is exactly what happened to Lucas; he was a blond-haired kid who led a simple life until an agent of the Empire, in this case Wario, attacked and "killed" someone he cared for, thus sending Lucas on a quest to avenge him.

* Even though this is about the most far-fetched thing I have ever read I congratulate the troper who created this for having such an imagination.

[[WMG:Master Hand, Crazy Hand and Tabuu are actually [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante, Trish and Lady]] respectively.]]

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand and Tabuu are [[FatalFury Terry Bogard]], [[VideoGame/ArtOfFighting Ryo Sakazaki]] and [[TheKingOfFighters Kyo Kusanagi]] respectively.]]

* Kirby's first video game appearance was in 19''9''2 - but then again, his first game was on the Game Boy, and gaming wasn't really about amazing graphics in the early '90s either...

Think about it. Japan created PacMan, Mario, Franchise/MetalGear, Mother, and Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, all games spanning different genres and stories, where as the only thing Americans created were games like Franchise/{{Halo}}, [[SpyroTheDragon Spyro]], SpaceInvaders, and many other games in which all you basically did was kill things. However, [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]] was one of the very few on the west that could impress the Japanese because the games he made were mostly built around ''creating'' things, like [[VideoGame/SimCity cities]], [[VideoGame/TheSims families]], and even [[{{Spore}} cute little critters]]. Hence since Wright like to create universes, he was "reincarnated" in the game world as Master Hand. However, the Nintendo characters feared his presence because while he did manage to create, he could also destroy.

So by the time we're in the Subspace Emissary, Tabuu is actually the representation of what American gamers want; to create havoc upon various worlds. However, because Master Hand (Wright) was able to earn some appreciation and respect with the characters (the different parts of the world), and Tabuu just controled Master Hand to convince whoever wanted to pay attention that creating subspace zones were "creating things". This of course would lead the other characters to notice that something was dreadfully wrong, and well, it explains why people like Mario a lot again...

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand and Tabuu are [[TimeCrisis Wild Dog]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Arche Klein]] and [[MortalKombat Shao Kahn]] respectively.]]

* Alternativly, SSE is a Doctor Who/Stargate crossover: Tabuu is the Valeyard; The Doctor AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence after his final regeneration (Daniel Jackson); Samus is a regeneration of the Doctor's daughter (can't remember her name), who at an earlier point regenerated into Sam Carter; Snake is actually the result of noodle incident involving Jack O'Neill, the Jack mini-me/clone made by Loki, and Todd; ROB is in fact Dalek Caan; King DeDeDe is Merlin; Ganondorf is a much younger Davros; Pit, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic are Timelords who opposed James Bond; the other Smashers or Tok'ra of the Wheeping Angels/SG Team members/Companions; and all the mooks and elite mooks are (evil)Time Lords/Daleks/Cybermen/Gou'ald/Wraith/(evil)Asgard; The Island of the Ancients did in fact belong to the Ancients ([[NeglectfulPrecursors why the hell do you think it was full of Subspace Bombs?!]])

** Yes, it's true that SSB came out before ''I Wanna Be The Guy''...but again, The Kid was doing it in ''preparation''. By the time IWBTG is released, it's already time for The Kid to go out and be The Guy. So what was he doing ''before'' it was time? That's right. Preparing.

** I didn't even know that the puppits weren't ripped straiht out of Twilight Princess when I saw them. And the location where they appear is suspiciously similar to the Sacred Grove, complete with dimension doors to parallel the time door.

Master Hand features prominently in the storyline, even though you never get to fight it. Its corpse is clearly visible when the character enter Tabuu's inner sanctum, so it seems like the writers originally intended it to play some role in the final battle. Furthermore, Master Hand is the only non-Tabuu antagonist whose name appears on-screen in a cutscene that doesn't team up with the heroes in the final battle. Rather suspicious.

* Maser Hand's laser beams are continuous. If that was originally meant to be Sonic it should have been a flash of blue not on screen as long. Alternatively Geno, music of the maze where Geno is found was {{dummied| out}}off the disk and Geno also shoots blue lasers. Both of even (two lasers were shot) but Square did not to allow it, which lead to Sonic getting shoehorned in.

[[WMG:The Pikachu in the origninal game died of old age prior to Brawl.]]

* Because they a table top the toys/trophies fight on modeled to look like a game world?

Tabuu likely found out about him somehow, and not being able to bring the real thing to fight for him, had a substitute
made. This could also explain why he doesn't look like the VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} Porky, the details weren't gotten quite right.

[[WMG: The Smash Brothers series is canon with all the series that cross over into it, and it is set in the Nintendo Universe's equivilent of [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who's Death Zone]].]]
Master Hand occasionally plucks several heros out of time and space and places them into the Nintendo Death Zone in order to enjoy watching them fight, and then decides to fight them himself. As he is fond of the heros and recognises them as such he will always allow them to defeat him in battle and is never truely defeated. Tabuu and The Subspace Army then decided to invade the Nintendo Death Zone, this is because Tabuu how aquired the chains of light which were powerful enough to contain Master Hand and he wished to have control over it. Also the 'plucked from time' aspect also explains a few things, firstly Young Link and regular Link in Melee were both taken from the two time zones in Ocerina of Time. Toon Link and regular Link from Brawl were taken from VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] (as somehow, he can reach into numerous timelines). Mario is taken out of the events of VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine in Brawl which is how he can have FLUDD on his back (even though FLUDD died). Wario's two alternate outfits are two versions of him from different times, Wario in his regular outfit is from his early appearances and in his ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' outfit from the events of one of those games. Dr. Mario was taken from the time of the game of the same name and this is why he and Mario can appear at the same time. The reason that at the start of the game Mario is seen as a trophy and is then thrown into the arena before coming to life is as follows: In Series/DoctorWho, with the arrival of a new Doctor in the Death Zone, the villian of the story recieved a small model of this Doctor which he placed onto a map where he wanted them to be. In the Nintendo Universe it doesn't quite work the same, and when they are brought into the Death Zone they initially appear as a giant trophy. Master Hand assures that the deaths of 'heros' are not permenant by turning somebody into the, easily revivable, trophy form the second they would due, he does this as if they were to die in the Death Zone it would be too damaging to the timeline. This also explains Sonic's appearance at the end of Brawl's storyline, Master Hand was free from his chains at this point and so decided that he would pluck another hero out of time in order for them to defeat Tabuu. Finally, just like Doctor Who, when they are returned to their original place in time and Space, their memory is erased of the events which is why they are never refered to outside of the Smash Brothers series!

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/Shantae]] will be a playable character in the next SSB.]]
The character has a small but dedicated following, and with a new downloadable sequel and possibly a Wii U title coming out in the future, it would be a great way to publicize her. She already has a good set of attacks.

[[WMG: VideoGame/Shantae will be a playable character in the next SSB.]]

The AC franchise is extremely popular in both Asia and the US, and the game has been referenced several times in SSB before. Mr. Resetti can be summoned, there's a pitfall item, and there are plenty of pieces of music from AC as well. The playable character would possibly be Tom Nook or KK Slider.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/Shantae Shantae]] will be a playable character in the next SSB.]]

*** He will appear as a LethalJokerCharacter. Like Frank West from ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'', he starts off weak but can level up the more he fights. He starts off as a weak Villager, but levels up to a Mercenary, and finally into a Hero.

* 8 '''Donny'''

** Pro Wrestling

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*** Unfortunately, that would preclude either of them from being paired up with [[spoiler: Lucina, if she appeared as either herself or a Marth alt]]. It would be better to have them as separate characters and include a few easter eggs for when they're on the same team.

VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! See! [[SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo and JohnnyTest in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)

*** If PacMan is a fighter this is a definate. They could fly around the screen knocking out the fighters.

* Super Smash Bros already had some fanservice because of Snake's butt and Samus's butt and peach using her butt for some of her attacks, plus her breasts were upgraded in Brawl compared to Melee. With the art director of Soul Calibur working on this game some fanservice increase could happen but with some restraint and not going too overboard, just enough to meet Nintendo's standards for what's okay but still pushing the envelope.