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[[AC: Misc. Part One]]

[[WMG: Smash bros Wii U/3DS will have different unlockable characters.]]
* And you'll have to buy both versions and trade between the two to get them all, like in Pokemon, to get the same full final roster in both games.
* Like stages they will be divided between characters from console games (only unlockable on Wii U) and characters from handheld games (only unlockable on 3DS)
* Note all characters revealed so far have been on both consoles and handhelds except for Wii Fit Trainer and Olimar who both only have screenshots from the Wii U version of the game.
** Possibly jossed, if this [[http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/super_smash_bros_will_have_the_same_character_roster_on_both_wii_u_and_3ds article]] is correct. Sakurai wants the "roster experience" to be the same for both versions, so platform-exclusive characters, unlockable or not, are, at best, unlikely. Then again, they could do what Namco did with [[SoulSeries Soulcalibur IV]] and have characters exclusive to one version be DLC for the other.
** Officially jossed with the August 21st update seemingly addressing this speculation specifically

[[WMG: The next Smash Bros game's story mode with have more dialogue in cutscenes and to a lesser extent the gameplay.]]
Yes, I am aware that not every playable character in the series can talk, but the ones who can will get more lines. Why is this plausible?
* Because thanks to certain games like the recent Kid Icarus game, Nintendo is becoming more open to voice acting.
* Namco will be involved in the production and Namco often has no problem whatsoever in using voice acting in their games.

[[WMG: The next Smash Bros will be an outright [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover Crossover]]]]
Smash 4 will take the the precedent set by introducing Sonic and Snake in Brawl to its logical conclusion, pitting Nintendo's combatants against an entirely different company's roster of fighters. My money's on [[WMG/CapcomVsWhatever Capcom]].
* Super Smash Bros. vs. Capcom.
* This troper feels Smash Bros. VS [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]] is more likely, given how many people from Square helped out on Brawl.
** Or by extension, Smash Bros. vs SquareEnix, containing characters from FinalFantasy, DragonQuest, VideoGame/ChronoTrigger, KingdomHearts, VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}, etc.
** And no-one has even mentioned the fact that Square Enix made the first Mario RPG (before Paper Mario), aptly called Super Mario RPG.
* (Not the op) I was thinking something more like just adding characters that were once on a Nintendo system. This way they can still keep the Nintendo theme, but have more characters. For example: [[KingdomHearts Sora]], the VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 main character, [[Franchise/{{Disgaea}} Laharl]], and PhoenixWright could all qualify. Hypothetically, of course.
** And Bomberman. Don't forget Bomberman. Or Mega Man, for that matter.
** ''Street Fighter IV'' producer Yoshinori Ono [[http://www.cubed3.com/news/15105 wants to pitch]] a ''Nintendo X Capcom'' to Masahiro Sakurai. If there's any time something like this is going to happen, it's now.

[[WMG:Snake's respect of Luigi is due to his own "brother", Liquid.]]
Snake's seen firsthand what can happen to an "inferior" brother, so he frowns upon such shoddy treatment of Luigi, lest he try to hijack a Metal Gear or something.
* This means that when he saw the Negative Zone, he probably mutterred, "Too Late."
* Or it may be about Raiden, who had to endure similar abuse from AI Colonel.

[[WMG: Tabuu is actually many people]]
Or actually, many people are really just the influence of his power on other worlds. You see, he wants to take over, but he can only project parts of himself into different worlds at a time, and after he had been defeated for the somethingth time (as things like [[VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards Zero 1/2]], [[VideoGame/EarthBound Gigyas]], [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Cackletta]], etc,) he finally got the idea to, instead of bringing himself to their worlds, he would bring their worlds to him, where he had full power, but he hadn't finished bringing all the pieces together, so they just fought a really strong shadow of himself.
* Marx from Kirby Super Star has to be in there somewhere. He's got his moves.
* Don't forget [[SkywardSword Demise]].

[[WMG:SSB takes place on [[http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/earthcrossoverall.htm Earth-Crossover]]]]
Earth-Crossover was an alternate Earth established originally by a series of stories where DC and Marvel characters coexisted in the same universe. The profile above includes various other licensed properties that crossed over with Marvel characters or had comics published by Marvel. Using a series of crossovers, one can establish that the SSB universe is actually one mega-crossover universe. It works like this:

* Solid Snake appears in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. He previously appeared in another MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover FightingGame, ''DreamMixTVWorldFighters'', which, among others, featured Optimus Prime and Megatron of ''{{Transformers}}'', who were featured in their own Marvel comic book, where they met Spider-Man and Marvel-owned characters like Circuit Breaker. Marvel, of course, has had crossovers with DC (and thus bringing in ''MortalKombat'' and a bunch of others), ''Series/DoctorWho'', ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and more. It also means that, by way of ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' and others, almost all Capcom characters are brought in, as well as ''TheKingOfFighters'' (itself a crossover!) and numerous Tatsunoku anime characters. Capcom also had the crossover with many {{Namco}} games in ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'', which included characters from SoulCalibur so we can also bring in the GuestFighter from VideoGame/GodOfWar, StarWars, and ImageComics. The two main leads of Namco x Capcom originally appeared in VideoGame/SuperRobotWars, opening the door to just about every mecha anime ever made. Image, of course, had the reputation for the horrific DeathMate crossover, which drags ValiantComics (the only name most people will recognize from there is ComicBook/{{Turok}}). Also, since we have established Marvel and DC are part of this mess, we can bring in their parent companies Disney and Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers brings with it Creator/CartoonNetwork originals and Disney brings DisneyAnimatedCanon and KingdomHearts. Naturally, Kingdom Hearts brings along Final Fantasy as well. If you wanted to go even further, you could connect this universe to the [[http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Pulp.htm Expanded Wold Newton Universe]]. So, in short, SSB is the lynchpin of one of the biggest crossovers by implication ever.
*** Mind = Blown
**** If you like that, you'll love this: Fighter Roar appears in ''Super Robot Wars: Original Generations''. He first appeared in another Banpresto, a game called ''The Great Battle IV'', which featured Series/{{Ultraman}} and Franchise/KamenRider characters, which brings in those franchises. ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' crossed over with ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'', which brings in ''Super Sentai''! And, if you fudge it a bit, you can also slide in ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'', due to a crossover between ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'' and ''The Next Mutation''. It's also not mentioned above, but, naturally, thanks to ''Brawl'', ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' and pals are also included, and any crossovers they may have had. And don't forget ''AnotherCenturysEpisode'', ''Dengeki Gakuen RPG: Cross of Venus'', ''ShinMazinger'', and ''[[ShonenJump Jump Super Stars]]''! YEAH GUYS [[{{Fanwank}} THIS SHIT]] JUST GOT REAL.
*** If Star Trek is in, the entire Tommy Westphall universe is in. Smash just entered the snowglobe.
*** OK that was epic, but how do you know all that?
*** We probably don't. It's all speculation and implication. Regardless, I'll add more to the list. If Disney AND Warner Brothers are implicated, then Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit brings in ''nearly every well-known classic cartoon ever made'', save for Hanna-Barbera. Backtracking to the source, ''Banjo-Kazooie'' and ''Conker's Bad Fur Day'' are brought in via Rare's former work on Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Kong Country. And according to TheOtherWiki, ''Sabrina the Teenage Witch'' had a crossover with Sonic in the Archie Comics. I couldn't find any links to Nickelodeon, Bandai (Pokemon vs. Digimon, anyone?), or anything extremely popular that hasn't been mentioned yet.
*** Going by the Disney/Warner Bros. route, we have CartoonAllstarstotheRescue (although this is dubious at best), which brings (not counting the well-known characters mentioned above) {{Garfield}}, TheSmurfs, the 1987 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' (and, by TMNT Forever, the 2003 series and the original comics), MuppetBabies, Series/{{ALF}}, WesternAnimation/AlvinandtheChipmunks and WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters into the mix. Going by the company logic, Nickelodeon is brought in by [=TMNT's=] presence as present owner. And if we strecth it, Literature/HarryPotter is brought in by the film series being produced by WB. Any bets that we'll run into something like TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} sooner or later if we keep finding links?
*** [[http://trilbydude.deviantart.com/art/CANONICAL-MARIO-CROSSOVER-WEB-214466661 A-hem.]] (doesn't include anything from these suggestions... yet.)
*** [[http://trilbydude.deviantart.com/art/CANONICAL-MARIO-WEB-VERSION-2-262089351 And updated.]]
*** Nickelodeon can also be connected because of WesternAnimation/AdventureTime, FairlyOddparents, and FanboyAndChumChum, because the same company (Fredorator Studios) made them. (And WesternAnimation/AdventureTime is on Creator/CartoonNetwork, thus the connection!) Also, the entry up there about Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit, forgot that HannaBarbera is owned by WarnerBrothers, so they're in the connection too. (QuickDrawMcGraw with his El Kabong persona would be a good idea for a new character) NewspaperComic characters would also be in the connection because of {{Garfield}}, as mentioned above, who references {{Peanuts}}, which is referenced by pretty much every other comic strip in existence, and there you have it, Nickelodeon, HannaBarbera, and comic strips are now in the connection.
*** But here's the coolest part. Transformers once crossed over with G.I. Joe. G.I. Joe has featured one Sgt. Slaughter as a character. Now, as we all know, Sgt. Slaughter is a real-life pro wrestler, therefore bringing WWE in. But what makes this really cool is that WWE is supposed to take place in the real life world. Therefore, that brings in... THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF EARTH!!!!!!!
*** Reinforcing this connection to Earth is Little Mac, an assist trophy in Brawl who went up against Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out! Now, because Harry Potter takes place in the 'real' world and is merely hidden from it, we can conclude that real-life people such as Mike Tyson and Sgt. Slaughter exist there, making another connection to it. To fully solidify the connection, JK Rowling once wrote an actual person, a fan named Natalie [=McDonald=], into the books in Goblet of Fire, fully connecting HP to the real world, and thus Mike Tyson, Little Mac and Brawl.
*** Because The Doctor lived in the Harry Potter world for a while under the alias Barty Crouch Jr, Doctor Who is connected to it as well.
*** In addition, Mega Man being in the SSB4 gives a more solid link to all Capcom VS games.
*** I'd like to see someone make a coherent timeline of when all of these games and other shit take place.

[[WMG: All the characters in SSB are just copies.]]

The people of the Smashverse wanted entertainment, so their leader (Master Hand) observed other worlds and made copies of their greatest heroes. The thing is, these copies cannot be killed, only turned into trophies. And they have an irresistable urge to fight each other, which explains why characters who were friends in their original 'verse are now beating the crap out of each other.

Anyway, these characters fight in front of crowds, which is why we hear spectator noises throughout the fights, and why there's an announcer.
* this would also explain why Kirby can use some of his powers without eating beasties (am i the only person who dislikes this?), master hand found that those were the powers he used most often
* Eh, sorry to burst your bubble, but this isn't your idea. This is the REAL PLOT.
** The "they're all trophies and not the real ones," yes. The "Master Hand copied them from the real ones" isn't confirmed either way.

[[WMG: Master Hand is the synergy between player and character given form]]

So you wanna know what Master Hand is? Here ya go.

In 64, Master Hand pulls toys (the fighters) out of a toybox and makes them fight in a diorama on his desk. Given the description in Melee and Brawl of Master Hand, I believe this to be symbolic of a gamer playing the character in a fictional world.

Melee: Trophy #159: "The Master Hand awaits anyone who survives the long difficult road to the Final Destination. This symbolic link between the real world and the imaginary battlefields of Super Smash Bros. Melee is quite a handful in battle..."

Brawl: "A being tied to the link between this world, where trophies fight, and the world beyond. The meaning of his existence is unknown, as are his goals, but he seems to have obtained (and kept hidden) a power that borders on absolute..."

In Subspace Emissary, Tabuu uses Master Hand as his puppet. Master Hand is described as the link between two worlds, in other words, the game world and ours. Master Hand is the synergy between player and character given form in Smash Bros, which is why Tabuu uses him to reach into all the different worlds of Nintendo.

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[{{Killer7}} Harman Smith, Kun Lan, and Iwazaru.]]]]
Iwazaru has a smiliar stance to Tabuu, Harman represents Master Hand, and Kun Lan is Crazy Hand.

Everyone else is Emir.

''Specially Mr. Game and Watch''.
* Then who's [[NoMoreHeroes Jeane?]]

[[WMG: the Brawlverse is actually [[NorseMythology Valhalla]].]]
It would explain the presence of ('''death spoiler!''') [[spoiler:Snake]], anyways. Tabuu is Loki trying to sew seeds of discord among the Einherjar, which is why the more chaotic ones were so easy to trick for him. Master Hand never actually existed except as his puppet.
* Snake's not dead.
** Maybe he's talking about [[spoiler:Big Boss? The Snake in Brawl is seemingly a CompositeCharacter, anyway...]]
** [[spoiler:Snake dies at the end of ''Guns of the Patriots'' due to old age. But if he didn't die in battle, what the deuce is he doing in Valhalla?!?]]

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[HinduMythology Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu]], respectively.]]
Master Hand created the world of the trophies, so he fits in with being Brahma the Creator. SSBB explicitly states that Crazy Hand is a destructive force opposing Master Hand, thus he can be likened to Shiva the Destroyer. This leaves Tabuu, who's like Vishnu the Preserver, [[spoiler:gathering together all the interesting people and places of the world in his domain, where they would stay for eternity, had Dedede's Main/GambitRoulette not come to fruition]].
* Speaking as a practitioner of Hinduism, I'm not too keen on this WMG, because that would mean [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu I kicked the crap out of the god I worship...]]
** Welcome to [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingon nirvana]], then.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand represent the twin spirits of creativity and self-control.]]
Without creativity in a video game, you're bored. Without self-control in a video game, you have no fun, as you have no limit to what you can do. The two forces are equal and opposite and need to be in tune to create a game. The final battle, then, is a metaphor for the difficulty of creating a game.
* How is having no limit of what you can do a bad thing? Just look at LittleBigPlanet.
** Even LittleBigPlanet has its limits. You only get to make platformer type levels, and all your creations must be 3 layers or less. and you have to use the textures that they give you.
*** LittleBigPlanet 2 blows a few of those out the window, though.
** Even if what you can do is unlimited (or at least has very large boundaries), people tend to [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome just stick to a few things that work]]. This is kinda why ''{{Scribblenauts}}'' got average reviews, despite all the hype. Also, if the game is truly unlimited and has no boundaries, you tend to get sucked into the QuicksandBox.
* To paraphrase the almighty [[VGCats Pantsman]]: one always ends up having too much fun screwing around in that vast world they give you, and subsequently getting distracted from any sort of goal and ending up bored.
* Half of this one is confirmed - the trophy for Master Hand calls him the embodiment of creation. Crazy Hand is the embodiment of destruction, though.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are [[{{Glover}} Glover and Crosstich]], respectively]]
Glover was [[SoBadItsGood so bad it was good]], but nobody realized this. Glover and Crosstitch are ''pissed'', so they've decided to take it out on all the popular characters.
* I have been saying this since the original SSB. I love you.

[[WMG: Tabuu is part of an EvilPlan on the part of Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog.]]
It is waaay too suspicious that Sonic arrived in the nick of time to save the day, despite not appearing before and it being improbable that he could be there without, say, Tails and the Tornado, or some such. Tabuu was something he created with Chaos Control as a threat so that he could infiltrate his ancient foes of Nintendo, and take them out from the inside, knowing that no external force could really do the job due to their resilience and teamwork. Presumably, at some point after the game, he assassinates the lot of them. Or perhaps enslaves them, it depends on if he's more angry about his parent company's downfall (the former-)or his games sucking, which would lead to the latter (he would make them work to improve his games).
* Alternatively, Sonic was in the Subspace because he was the weakest from his games being awful. Hence, he had to bide his time before making his strike.
** Alternatively alternatively, it was a gambit by Dr. Eggman. After realising the nature of his world (i.e. one that exists based on the popularity of the Sonic games), he realises that the Sonic world is slipping into Subspace, aka video game hell (see the theory further down about Subspace being the place where various genres go once they die), and thus decides that, if he cannot prevent the slide into Subspace, he can at least rule it! Thus, he unleashes Chaos again, who, after his defeat in Sonic Adventure, is far easier to control, but is in far greater control over its powers. After being given the Chaos Emeralds to consume, Dr. Eggman renames it Tabuu, which is just a pseudonym to prevent Sonic from stopping him. The Subspace Army, the Subspace Bombs, and the army of R.O.B's were all created by Dr. Eggman, with the Ancient Magister being [[spoiler:the one true R.O.B, who Dr. Eggman based all the copies on after being beaten into submission by Tabuu]]. The reason we don't see or fight Eggman after Tabuu/Perfect Chaos' defeat is because Sonic's hand in defeating Tabuu/Perfect Chaos is [[XanatosGambit the other half]] of Eggman's EvilPlan: by appearing in an already successful series, he has brought some good publicity back onto the Sonic series, the proof being the lack of apprehension around ''SonicUnleashed'', despite the whole werewolf thing. Put simply, Eggman's plan was two pronged: had Tabuu/Perfect Chaos succeeded in pulling the Nintendo universe into Subspace, Eggman can rule with Tabuu/Perfect Chaos as his proxy, whereas if Sonic intervened and helped defeat Tabuu/Perfect Chaos, then the Sonic series gets a second chance at restoring its former glory and pulling it back from the brink of Subspace. [[Manga/DeathNote Just. As. Planned.]]
*** This sounds more plausible when you remember the tickens, who let a small bird fly away when defeated. Now, who used to lock these poor little animals into machines?
*** Yet another alternately is that Tabuu kidnapped/stole the real Sonic about a half decade ago and replaced him with a fake that was intentionally meant to be inferior. The Smash characters gave Sonic enough time to break free from Tabuu's prison and escape.
**** OR, Sonic was caught in the Subspace Battleship's shot and pulled into Subspace, where he spent the time the others were getting through the Great Maze trying to find the one responsible for what happened.
* I always thought it was so he could finally prove that, as a Sega character, he does what Nintendon't.
* The Smash Bros Universe is the heaven Sonic went to when Mephiles killed him in 2006. Sonic 2006 and Brawl occur simultaneously, which is why he doesn't show up until the end, after he's dead in 2006.

[[WMG: The whole of SSE is a VR Simulation that was used to get Snake up to speed with combat (and the CQC techniques that Naked Snake/Big Boss had) between MGS 2 and MGS 4.]]
In short, a world where Nintendo characters (plus one blue hedgehog and a [[Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin rouge]] [=FoxHound=] agent) fight and turn into life-sized trophies upon defeat doesn't make much in the way of sense. The only way it could make sense is if, indeed, Snake is playing out a, albeit rather outlandish by Kojima standards, virtual simulation to get up to speed in terms of combat since the events of MGS 2.
* Tabuu is, of course, not a part of the simulation, but a computer program that hacked its way in and is trying to kill Snake with YourMindMakesItReal, so that he can take Snake's body. He has to kill all the others because they were rewritten by Dedede's badge programs to be firewalls to Snake.
* Or, the Snake in SSE is the real Snake, and the Metal Gear games are just a fictional account of his life story. Hell, let's just assume that ALL the characters in Smash are the 'real' ones.
** Snake's in-game Codec calls seem to contradict this, often specifically referring to events and characters of Metal Gear.

[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch is the Lord of Hammerspace.]]
Which is why he's 2-D in a 3-D world.
* Currently troper-canon according to the [[Pantheon/TropePantheons Pantheon]].

[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch ''is'' Hammerspace.]]
He gained sentience due to all of the magical items inside him.
* Likewise troper-canon.

[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch is the [[KingdomHearts Heartless]] of R.O.B.]]
He, being heartless, was glad to provide via a process of budding the Primids. Once his inner goodness is revived, and he joins the side of good, the resonance causes the reprogrammed R.O.B., effectively a nobody, to regain emotion subroutines, leading to the Ancient Minister's sudden HeelFaceTurn.
* Jossed. By WordOfGod, G&W has no sense of right or wrong, so that basically puts him as TrueNeutral. Heartless are ChaoticEvil.

[[WMG: Luigi has somehow gotten his hand on [[Manga/Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure Dio's]] "The World" Stand and all his negative thoughts about being in Mario's Shadow has lead to his Negative Zone final Smash.]]
You look at that technique and tell me it's not a take on The World's time stop.
* [[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/532379 Funny you should mention that...]]

[[WMG: Luigi's 'Negative Zone' was originally meant to be called 'Minus World'.]]
I wonder why they changed it?
* Possibly it was a mistranslation. Or even a purposeful mistranslation as a reference to old games, such as the phrases "Shine Get!" or "I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
** I always figured that it was a reference to the "Minus World" glitch in Mario 1.
** I'd say Whoa Zone. See below.
** I doubt it, the Negative Zone is nothing like Minus World.

[[WMG: Luigi is still the Man In Green.]]
The Prophecy of the [[VideoGame/PaperMario Dark Prognosticus]] isn't over yet, the villains possessing Luigi actually delayed/altered it. Thus Luigi is still his Universe's version of the Anti-Christ.
* Which would explain why [[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/hidden03/hidden03_080215j-l.jpg his Final Smash]] looks so much like the [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/b/b0/Whoazone.PNG/180px-Whoazone.PNG Whoa Zone]].

[[WMG: Luigi is one of two separate Luigis.]]
In VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy, there are two Luigis: the playable one and the one who you rescue and who subsequently finds stars for you. One of them is the "normal" Luigi who has no seemingly occult powers, and the other is the Brawl-playable one who knows the ways of the Negative Zone. As much as it carries the implication that we're not really playing as Luigi in Brawl, or at least not the "true" one, on the other hand, this troper is a fan of Luigi and thinks that he might have gotten a bit too weird in Brawl. I've also mentioned this idea in [[WMG/SuperMarioBros the WMG page for Super Mario Bros.]]

[[WMG: Luigi will have Negative Zone replaced by something else in Brawl 4...]]
But Waluigi will become playable and inherit Negative Zone (aka [[Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily "Waluigi Time"]]) as ''his'' Final Smash.

[[WMG: The characters of Subspace Emissary are distant relatives of the [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping Angels]].]]
Instead of turning into statues when looked at, they turn into trophies when severely wounded.
* [[NightmareFuel Aaaaaaaaah! AAAAAAAAAAAAH!]]

[[WMG: The Pikachu in ''Brawl'' evolved from Pichu in ''Melee''.]]
Think about it. In Brawl, Pikachu has one of Pichu's taunts, two of Pichu's costumes from Melee (in particular, the goggles) and, of course, it knows Volt Tackle, a move that can only be known by a Pikachu evolved from a Pichu.
* Not to mention it can wall jump -- something that Pichu could do, but Melee's Pikachu couldn't.
** Correction: Pikachu could in Melee. Many stories are made up (possibly) because everyone hated Pichu... yet missed him in Brawl.
*** AlasPoorScrappy.
*** Every character could {{walljump}}, if you ukemi'd off the wall. But IIRC Pikachu wasn't capable of walljumping normally.
** Perhaps the Pikachu from Melee evolved into Raichu, justifying the need for a replacement Pikachu.
** Various problems -- Pichu evolves via happiness. Everyone hated Pichu. Second, Light Balls and Volt Tackle didn't exist in the second generation (or at least Volt Tackle didn't). Pichu couldn't have gotten it anyway, originating from those games.
** He evolved in between the games with his original trainer, after the attack came out.
* [[http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2009/09/04/186-pichu/ Maybe this can provide some insight?]]

[[WMG: The Smash Bros. characters cannot be wounded, and are effectively immortal.]]
This is pretty observable - they show absolutely no visible damage upon being sliced through with blades, blown up by explosives, eaten, and launched hundreds of feet away by a single blunt impact -- the worst they show for it is being turned into a trophy, which can be revived back to optimal health with a single touch. The trophies are indestructible, as evidence by Bowser's attempts to damage Ganondorf's trophy; despite him punching and biting it repeatedly, it doesn't show so much as a scratch, and Bowser walks away, likely in full knowledge the trophy was indestructible and merely venting some anger.
* Yes, this is probably true.
* I don't have personal experience with this, but doesn't Bowser's trophy shatter in ''Melee'' after defeating Giga Bowser?
** Yes, Bowser does disintegrate when defeated, but not only is the Bowser faced in Adventure Mode significantly larger and stronger than the controllable Bowser, but the latter couldn't transform into Giga Bowser until ''Brawl''. Hence, the Bowser faced in Adventure Mode is a different trophy entirely, most likely part of an identical set (which explains how it can be destroyed by all the ''Melee'' characters and still be around).

[[WMG: Tabuu and [[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]] are transdimensional alternates/opposites of each other.]]
Tabuu and Giygas are so similar and yet opposite to each other that this must be true -- they are both otherworldly beings with immense power, but while Tabuu is a being of pure rationality, said to have great leadership skills and characterized by his elaborate plans, Giygas is an uncontrollable being of pure emotion, completely without any level of rationality or intelligence. Their forms are similarly opposite -- while Tabuu is clear blue with a distinctive silhouette, whose form is iconic and imposing, Giygas is a red, indistinct mass of pure terror. Perhaps Tabuu and Giygas are alternate destinies of the same being (hitherto referred to as "Giegue" for convenience) -- Tabuu results when Giegue masters his powers and brings them under his control, thus becoming the intelligent but immensely strong master of Subspace. Giygas, however, results when Giegue loses control of his power and it destroys his mind and body, resulting in an uncontrollable mass of pure evil power only loosely driven by his emotions. This also explains how Tabuu could gain the allegiance of the selfish Porky, who pledged his allegiance to Giygas until his defeat.

[[WMG: Olimar is not actually a fighter.]]
Think about it: The characters in Smash bros. are Trophies. The trophies are probably about the size of Olimar (that's one talented trophy maker), and Olimar is about the size of Kirby in-game. The ROB that Olimar was fighting was a real-world ROB, which is why it was gigantic compared to Olimar and Captain Falcon combined.
* Yeah that's always bothered me. But the problem with that is Captain Falcon was also tiny. Why would that Captain be a different one than what we use to fight?
** That's because Captain Falcon is a trophy which is about the size of the real Olimar.

[[WMG: Dark Cannons and Trophy Stands are devices to turn Nintendo characters into Trophy Fighters and Assist Trophies.]]
How else would there be 'Newcomers'?

[[WMG: The [[IceClimber Ice Climbers]] as seen in this game, intentionally or not, represents two faces of {{Yandere}}.]]
Among the different kinds of Yandere, there is the obsessive one who will kill her/himself if the beloved one dies, and the possessive one who may either kill both of them to stay together forever, kill just the beloved so they'll be together yet again, or [[MurderTheHypotenuse brutally murder somebody who dares to touch]] or harm their... erm, victim.
The only times that Nana doesn't magically disappear upon his death is when she's in black and red. Remember, black has to do with death and red is also violent, blood -- and love.
In short:
Nana is ''mostly'' obsessive, but with her Red and Black costumes she obtains her possessive side, who goes insane with grief (not shown because it would take too long, [[YouBastard you don't want to wait for her lust of revenge to be satisfied do you... Player?]]) whenever Popo is thrown away, and then continues the rampage that he was on for his sake. However, she becomes a much worse fighter on purpose so she can meet him again sooner. The other colours are the obsessive side who kills herself instantly to stay together with him... until the trophies are brought back alive and thrown onto the stage, where her mind resets and they are back to their original state of mind.
Popo is likewisely more possessive but has a tendency to become obsessive whenever Nana is possessive.

[[WMG: The World of Trophies is filled with underground vegetables and Pikmin.]]
Anybody agree?

[[WMG: Master Hand is the Announcer.]]
Come on, he CREATED the world of Trophies, and he's voiced by the guy who does the Announcer.

Even though the announcer is a different guy in each game, the Master Hand is still voiced by that guy.

[[WMG: Tabuu is Master Hand's father.]]
From the original game, we know that the Master Hand is a kid playing with his toys. Tabuu "captures" the Master Hand during the Subspace Emissary, forcing him to defeat his creations -- i.e., clean-up his toys. Subspace is really just the toy closet. At the end, after mother/father and child have put everything away, the Sonic figure within the closet falls, inadvertently starting an avalanche of the other toys, at which point the mom just gives up. This also explains why characters are where they are at the start of [=SSE=]; the Hand was just playing with his toys, and was just experimenting putting different figures with different playsets (R.O.B. on a giant floating island, possibly an [[VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles Angel Island]] set, for instance).
* Let's extend it even farther; in the first game, the characters are plushes. In Melee, they are trophies. Why? The Master Hand's friend, the Crazy Hand, brought over a bunch of character trophies from the second series of Nintendo's "Smash Bros." toy line, the successor to the Master Hand's collection of plush dolls. The friend is a bit more destructive (and thus perhaps younger) than the Master Hand, and, of course, left-handed. Their playtime depicted in Melee convinces the Master Hand to start collecting them, but he was unable to find the out-of-print Mewtwo, Roy, Pichu, Young Link, and Dr. Mario trophies in time for Brawl. The Crazy Hand comes back over to play during Classic and Boss Battles, but his absence in [=SSE=] means he wasn't playing over that day.
* And the ungloved hand in Melee's opening? Notice how it's the ''left hand'', and how it throws the Mario trophy rather haphazardly. That hand is the Crazy Hand, before Tabuu comes in and tells him that, in their house, they have a rule that you have to wear gloves when playing with toys so you don't hurt yourself. Tabuu is ''really'' overprotective.
** Or Master Hand wants to make sure that his stuff doesn't get messed up, or Crazy Hand liked the Gloves and somehow got some (Or might have borrowed them).
* The Fighting Polygon team from the first game is made out of Play-Doh. Metal Mario is a figurine, the first one of the trophy toy line that he collected (probbably as a birthday present from the Crazy Hand).
* The characters which must be "unlocked" are either "lost" (for example, Ness in Brawl) by MH or "new" (as in the case of MK, Sonic, etc.). The "areas" merely represent the aforementioned "playsets." The subspace bombs and "arrow-shootin' guns" in Brawl may represent putting them away in boxes to simplify clean-up. As for the Ancient Minister and Dr. Mario, Mario and R.O.B. just came in regular and "collector's edition" versions.
* Here's an extension of this idea based on the extended description of the SSE storyline given [[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html here]]. All of the events of SSE are because the kid's family is moving to a new house and Tabuu aka the father (since the official website describes Tabuu as male) is forcing the kid to pack up the trophies and playsets -- depending on the age of the kid, he may think this is packing them up forever. Paraphrasing from the website, Tabuu is stuck in Subspace and wants to cut up the world the heroes live in: the father has no imagination of the kid's fantasy world, and he wants to reduce it to the discrete inanimate objects. Chains of light force the Master Hand to do Tabuu's bidding, i.e. the father is forcing the kid to pack his toys away. The Master Hand in turn has bad guy characters like Ganon and Bowser do his bidding, i.e. the kid doesn't want to put them away, so he imagines that the bad guys do the work. The circular shockwaves Tabuu emits that KO characters instantly are the father yelling at his kid -- doing so snaps the kid back into the real world and the trophies, without his control, fall to the ground lifeless. King Dedede's plan to restore some of the heroes is the kid fighting back against the perceived aggression by taking steps to ensure that not all of them end up in Subspace/the boxes. So instead he puts badges on them, aka slips a few into his pocket so he can play with them later. Tabuu reconstructs elements of the heroes' world into a maze -- the father puts the playsets haphazardly into a box. At the end, the heroes win when they get to their new house and the kid sets it all up again. All the parts of the world are restored, except the Isle of the Ancients, which is destroyed because that playset is lost or broken during the move.
** So pretty much the SSBB Subspace Emissary is the Nintendo version of the ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' series? That means all the crazy events that the video game character trophies/toys experience is actually the plot line the child [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZlPbljdSo imagines]] as he's packing the toys and moving to a new place. (Akin to the first ''Toy Story'' movie, yes?)
** Or [[HilariousInHindsight perhaps]] it's the Nintendo version of [[spoiler:Film/TheLegoMovie]].

[[WMG: Alternate version of the "Kid with his Toys"-theory]]
It all started with a pair of siblings living together with their somewhat childish dad (in an {{AU}} of our world), who once bought a trophy set of his favourite characters at the time. Their dad was often busy with work, so when the small kids didn't have him around, they would pitch these trophies against each other and pretend that the scenery was there. They had an idea that after every 11th "battle", the elder brother always said "Hey, it's hard controlling so small trophies with my hand, I'll simply use the hand itself". (Classic mode)
Later on (Melee), Dad found another set to add to the first, but the elder son wasn't interested anymore -- he was in a "Childish things are dumb"-phase, so he and the younger one played very similarily to how the siblings had done before, only that Dad sometimes used his left hand as well -- as he in his youth had been forced to write with the right despite being a leftie, left became the "Crazy Hand" as he was better at using it for toying purposes and the kid would always make his characters think "Man, that big hand is crazier than the other!". Now for the interesting part, Brawl.

Many years later, the elder son had become a film director, and remembering his childhood, he [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome managed to convince the copyright holders of the trophies and the characters]] to let him direct a movie based on his memories of the toys, although he had forgotten some from the second set and also added some of the video game characters he played in his phase. The movie wasn't selling too well, so he let another person take care of the game adaption, that worked much better. This would explain why SSE includes at least some emotions in the cutscenes, why Master Hand's voice is different in each game -- first they joked around with the brother's voice, then Dad's, and finally a professional voice actor's, and the absence of some Melee characters.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are [[Main/StarControl Them.]]]]
First of all, They seem to have access to other dimensions, as They manifest in Real Space as the Orz. This allows Them to group together so many video game characters, by moving to their dimensions. The Orz are said to be Their "fingers," so by extension, Master Hand and Crazy Hand could be Their hands. Besides, Master Hand and Crazy Hand wear gloves. Who's to say that under those gloves are the Orz, where the fingers would be?

[[WMG: In the SSE storyline, Snake was hired by Dedede.]]
This is what we know about Snake's role in Subspace Emissary: 1) Snake was on a mission. 2) Snake is against the Subspace army. 3) Snake is inactive until Dedede is trophified. Since Dedede was on the Halberd when it was taken, he could give Snake access to the ship (somehow). Snake would then hide on board and keep a link with Dedede via the Codec, where he would act when given the signal and/or something happened to Dedede (only the latter ended up happening). His mission was to retake the Halberd, eliminate the supply of Shadow Bugs, and rescue any captives on board. If it weren't for the blowing up the Island of the Ancients and subsequent use of the gunship -- as well as several other factors that neither Snake nor Dedede could have possibly known about -- it would have effectively destroyed the Subspace Army.
* This Troper would like to add in that Dedede hired not only Snake, but also Fox, Falco, Captain Falcon, and Samus. Fox and Falco were assigned to try to destroy the guns on the Halberd before boarding it and meet up with Snake to retake it with him. Falco was falling behind a bit because he had to go and get the Great Fox. Captain Falcon and Samus were teamed up on the Isle of Ancients. From there, the two split up and Samus found the Research Facility while Falcon met Olimar, DK, and Diddy.

[[WMG: Ness and Lucas are astronomy fans in this continuity.]]
They can both use PK Starstorm, a technique neither could use in their respective games. This is because they are actually using their own custom-made PK attack, which is named after their favorite thing; their Final Smashes are called PK Starstorm because starstorms are their favorite things.
* I think this is just to make the graphics logical. And allow a sound effect. Frankly, PK Starstorm is appropriate considering the importance of aliens.
** I would have killed to have Ness use PK Rockin', though (since that's the first Don't Care name, much like Ness is).
* The trophies mentioned that they learned it from the person they know who knows PK Starstorm (Poo and Kumatora, respectively.)

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud Strife]] was originally going to be in Brawl, but they couldn't get the rights, so they replaced him with Ike.]]
Imagine, Sakuri wanted to put Cloud in Brawl, so he made the team create Cloud. But they didn't have time to get the rights from Square to use Cloud (who would be idiots NOT to accept), and they ended up using Ike, another pretty boy with a big sword.

Here are my reasons that Cloud was orignially in Brawl:

1. In Brawl, Ike fights alot like you'd expect Cloud to, with slow but powerful attacks, and a BFS.
2. Do you see many Ike fans around here? Neither do I.
3. Compare Cloud's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcDGeNOeMk Omnislash]] to Ike's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDcjWBHH0JA Great Aether]] and tell me you don't see a resemblance.

* The problem with this theory, though, is Cloud is pretty much the biggest anti-Nintendo Final Fantasy character ever. ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was the first FF not released on a Nintendo console, and putting him in Brawl would just be a bit of a mockery really of why they left. Now stick in one of the VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI cast, and you have yourself a brilliant, deserving-of-their-place third-party FF character. And there are a lot of Ike fans out there.
** Personally, I would've loved FFII/IV's Rydia to be playable; Being a summoner, it would've made for some epic final smashes :)

* Ike, like Roy before him, was included as a representative for the most recent FireEmblem game. It's the same reasoning that replaced Mewtwo with Lucario.
** Plus, if you've played the game, you realize just how badass Ike is. Badass enough for Smash Bros.

* Not many Ike fans? I beg to differ. [[EvenTheGuysWantHim I'm totally gay for Ike.]] Okay, maybe I'm a little extreme, but aside from being in the most recent game, Ike is also, on his own, one of the more popular lords of Fire Emblem. I couldn't give you any sources offhand, but I've heard that Ike has come behind only Marth and Sigurd in Japanese popularity polls.
** Same here! Ike's awesome! Better than Marth, at least.
** On another random unrelated note, Ike's Great Aether is more similar to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Squall's Lion Heart]], if you ask me.

* From the start, all that had been declared was that the characters would've been on Nintendo consoles. 'sides, Ike was pretty much one of the first brought out. If they were trying to secure the rights to Cloud, they wouldn't've promoted him as early as they had.

[[WMG: Tabuu is the embodiment of the {{Xbox 360}}.]]

He looks like some kind of high-tech... thing, when the Isle of Ancients is destroyed it turns into a very Xboxy-looking X, and his most annoying move involves Red Rings of Death.

* I wold like to move that subspace is the embodiment of games and genres becoming forgotten in the "Current Gen," the place where games are forgotten by all ether by means of time or by the newer game being horrid (Hence why Sonic was in subspace). For example, the Stadium geting Subspaced at the start represents the genre of 2D fighters dying out. It would also explain Jigglypuff, Wolf, and Toon Link being trapped in Subspace (their doors don't appear until Tabuu is destroyed), as Jigglypuff is from the first generation of Pokemon games and now 1 of 649 Monsters to think about, Wolf debuted on the N64, which isn't well received, and Toon Link started in Wind Waker, a game vilified for its art style in the shadow of the Spaceworld 2001 tech demo.
* Sonic survived in subspace because people still remember how good the original Sonic Trilogy, CD, Chaotix, the handhelds, and the adventure games were, and he was waiting for the right moment to strike against Tabuu. Sonic and the Secret Rings, Sonic Rush, and (to a lesser extent) Sonic Rivals gave him the means to fight back, just as he was about to Red Ring everyone a second time.
* Also notice Samus starts off rather weak, and then makes a very explosive and badass comeback during the story. It seems to illustrate the period after Super Metroid until the release of Metroid Prime.
* It could stand for reason, then, that Tabuu might actually be the embodiment of the Video Game Market Crash of 83. He stands for the flood of shovelware that was released and the poor quality games of famous franchises (ET and Pac-Man) and is the spirit of all the quality games that should have been and yet were not ether because people overestimated technology, rushed the game though development, or were never able to develop them due to market conditions.
** Tabuu, cursed to eternally be the embodiment of "what ifs" and "never-nevers," wishes to subject the Smash Brothers world (The embodiment of Nintendo (And Konami and Sega by proxy)) to the horror and despair of the Video Game industry's follies and have the world and its inhabitants consumed into subspace (The video game equivalent of hell, not Super Paper Mario's Underwhere, just so we're clear on that) so it may force all to wallow in its eternal damnation in some sort of sick, condemned, entertainment.
*** So, yes, Tabuu is more or less the Video Game equivalent of the [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Anti-Spirals]].
*** So if Tabuu is the Anti-Spiral, who's Kamina?
**** Captain Falcon!
*** Also, Lucas is Simon, Pikachu is Boota (or at least his descendant considering the Pokemon WMG page), Samus is Yoko, and either Master Hand or Ganondorf is Lord Genome
**** Furthermore, Peach is Nia, Rossiu is the Ancient Minister [[spoiler:who wants to save as many of his people as possible and later realizes the error of his ways]], and Bowser is Guame.
**** Also, Link is Viral.
***** Actually, I think Dedede's Viral. Link might be Kittan.
** Obviously, this means that Tabuu has enacted his subspace plan before (specifically, in 1983). That time, he succeeded in destroying the world. The only survivors of the previous subspace cataclysm were the Pac-family, Frogger, and Pitfall Harry (quick, name a pre-1983 video game character besides those). Pitfall Harry and Frogger both passed on during the PS1 era due to their horrible revival games, but the Pacs are still out there... somewhere.
*** No, Frogger made an appearance on the GameCube. Haven't heard of him after that, though.
*** The Pong Paddle.
*** #$%^ Qbert, Mother@$%#s!
*** What about Evil Otto and the little man with the invincble neck in Berzerk?
*** How can you forget Taizo Hori from Dig Dug?
*** Also, among the playable characters, Mr. Game and Watch first showed up in 1980, and Donkey Kong debuted in 1981 (along with proto-Mario "Jumpman").
*** On reflection, the pre-Crash world is likely the "real world" Mario and Luigi originally hailed from (after all, the original Mario Bros. was from the 2600 era). So they, too, would be survivors of the Great Crash.
**** This also explains the ancient R.O.B. civilization, since ''they saved the world from Tabuu's first attempt.''
**** Pacman is imprisoned as an exhibit in the Namco Mueseum.
**** It is interesting to note that the first Smashers to be targeted by Tabuu were survivors of the Great Crash. Mr. Game and Watch was captured before the game started, Mario was involved in the Halberd's attack on Midair Stadium, and Bowser sent his entire army after Donkey Kong before doing anything else. Dedede probably took Luigi first to keep the last survivor out of Tabuu's hands.
* Let me drive this even further. Mario and Kirby were the two first characters, which makes sense since these seemed to be some of the most popular characters around. Zelda and Peach are equally powerful due to their series's popularity. Peach getting captured by Wario (this way makes more sense) signifies Wario getting more popular than Mario, and is also why Mario seems helpless a lot of the time later on. Yoshi was a new series and slowly gaining popularity, which might be why he's shown waking up the first time you see him. Kirby has about the same amount of strength the whole way through. Dedede is revealed pretty early on, which makes sense since he was the first final boss of the Kirby series. And as even MORE "proof", Olimar is quite weak and scared when he first arrives, because at that point in the Nintendo timeline he was a new character. Captain Falcon, on the other hand, was part of a popular racing game series, which is why he's so powerful, plus his Falcon Punch made him permanently famous. Especially with the Metroid Prime area, since about that point, new F-Zero games started getting released on newer consoles. And if you thought that was impressive, Sonic appearing near the end (and quite powerful at that point as well) symbolises that he could survive in Subspace as mentioned earlier, and also that Nintendo expects the newer sonic games to be alot better. I am good at this.
* Or, Tabuu is the embodiment of Atari, Intellivision, Sega, and all those dead companies' resentment for Nintendo's amazing survival ability. The reason Sonic shows up is because Sonic games are now on Nintendo platforms, and so Sega's main character wants to help Nintendo, too.
* So, how do VideoGame/SonicColors and VideoGame/SonicGenerations fit into this. Will Sonic become a GameBreaker? Will he bring a friend to the Brawl?

[[WMG: Brawl has a OneTruePairing, and it's Samus x Snake.]]
* Well, ''duh, everyone'' knows that!
** She has the balls. He has the box.
*** [[http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=30940 But C. Falcon has one thing Snake doesn't have...]]
*** They have to be the OTP. They're both too hot for anybody else to handle.
**** Everyone knows C. Falcon and Snake are gay together. Sure it's gay, but it's AWESOME gay.
***** Can you say... "threesome"?
****** Well, this brings a whole new meaning to "show me your moves."
* Personally, this Troper has seen WAY more Pikachu/Samus fanart. And, to be perfectly honest, they DO get more screen-time together and form a powerful connection....
* Oh you're so imaginative! No one has thought of that pairing before!

[[WMG: Lucas is a time traveler in this game/]]
Big endividience: Lucas is supposed to be born a while after Ness, but they both appear in this game, and with the same physical age. And since Ness was already in SSB like he is now, it must be Lucas, who has been "ripped out of his time".
Also, the reason he seems to care so much about Ness is that he actually knows that he's related to him in some way, maybe his grandfather or something. (You are not usually THAT sad about a random boy you never met before, being turned to stone, even if he saved your life.)
Maybe Porkey took Lucas with himself to Ness's time to eliminate him when his friends aren't around, so he would be helpless, but Ness interrupted and kicked his old Wannabe-Pal's ass.
An alternate (and somehow even more provable) theory is, that none of the characters in SSBB is the actual hero from their universes, but just copies that were made for the one reason of fighting each other in epic battles. (And if this one was already proven by TheWordOfGod, please don't rip my head off).
* That or Smash Bros. is an AU where Link, Fox, Pikachu, Ness, Lucas, etc. just so happen to coexist...
** Main/WordOfGod says this.
*** Also Lucas cares so much about Ness because Ness is the "Legendary Hero" to people in Lucas' time. Basically, kind of a big deal.
**** No one knows who Ness is in Lucas's time. At the most, they see him as a fictional character.
**** A fictional character that ''just saved his life.''
* I was once told that the original ending for Mother 3 would involve Ness time-traveling after Porky and battling with him before being forced to kill him, rather than the whole Absolutely Safe Machine business. When I heard, I just immediately figured, "Huh. That's where they got that scene from Brawl." Thus NESS is the time-traveler here. Not Lucas.
** But that's not solid evidence that Ness is the time-traveler. Your figuring, "That's where they got that scene from" is still just your speculation and nothing to go by. The scene in Brawl, if indeed Ness was supposed to go after Porky, could have just been a recycling of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen what could've been]] but was not.
* Who said that Lucas was born after Ness? It's possible that Porky went ''back'' in time to screw with the Nowhere Islands. After all, after Lucas [[spoiler: pulled the Last Needle and woke the Dragon]], he could've [[spoiler: created a whole new world]], where Mother 1 and 2 took place. As far as I know, no limit was ever placed on Porky's time traveling. Also, Lucas felt bad about Ness because he did nothing to save him from Wario after Ness saved him from the King P statue. He was just feeling guilty, and determined to return the favor.
* Why would Porky take Lucas back to ''Ness's'' time to render him ''helpless''? If the point of taking Lucas away from his friends was to make him easier to kill without the support of Kumatora, Duster, and Boney (“helpless”, in that sense), why would Porky take him to a time where he could ''possibly'' get the aid of Ness and co., even if it was unlikely that any of them would be in the area? Not to mention that Lucas is not truly ''helpless'' helpless. He could still use PSI.
* …That makes Porky the time traveler, not Lucas. And what does Ness having been in SSB and SSBM have anything to do with this? In any case, the problem is that there are too many in-game inconsistencies for Lucas to be the original from Mother 3. Like the fact that he's still faint-hearted and timid (age 9 at the very least), while in Mother 3, he learns PSI when he's already grown a spine (age 12 at most). And if the player decided to destroy the King P statue before confronting Porky, what's it doing in Brawl? If Porky pulled Lucas away before he managed to reach New Pork City, therefore preventing the statue paradox, when did Kumatora find the time to teach him all her PSI moves, including Starstorm? Someone should make a WMG solving all this… Then again, it's already canon that everyone's a trophy (right?), and there would be a ton of trouble explaining the presence of the other Smashers…
* Ah, people, EVERYONE time travels in SSB. How else would Link and Toon Link fight each other?

[[WMG: The Ancient Minister is the only trophy R.O.B.]]
The Subspace Bombs require the destruction of two R.O.B. units. There's also a cutscene where we see R.O.B.s ripped to shreds by an opening Subspace portal. But wait! In this world, trophies fight - why don't they turn into trophies like every other character? Equally, why wasn't the Ancient Minister affected when Ganondorf took control of the rest of the R.O.B. Squad? And come to that, why wasn't he obliterated by Tabuu's attack?

The explanation for all of this is simple. The R.O.B. who plays the part of the Ancient Minister is the only R.O.B. who is also a trophy.

How did he come to be this way? I'm not sure. A couple of wild guesses:
* The Ancient Minister has more advanced AI - clearly the other R.O.B.s do have some AI, but perhaps they're more on the level of dogs or something. With sapience comes trophyness.
* The Ancient Minister is the robotic version of ''Literature/{{Pinocchio}}''. Somewhere along the line, a [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda Great Fairy]] turned him into a Real Trophy.
* The Ancient Minister is a R.O.B. from Gyromite, and like all the other video game characters in the game, is also a trophy. The others are ''actual R.O.B.s'', upgraded in capacity and apparent intelligence, but still ultimately nothing more than circuits and plastic.
** You mean Shadow Bugs. It's my personal belief that Shadow Bugs are EVERYTHING in Subspace, consdering Tabuu has an unlimited supply.
** This troper believes that all [=ROBs=] used to be trophies, but the newer [=ROBs=] were built using subspace tools, so they leave no trophies. Maybe there's a big stash of old ROB trophies somewhere in subspace.
*** That would explain why some of them are friggin' unkillable in cutscenes.
* Alternatively, if we use the "kid playing with his toys" story, the kid uses his R.O.B. trophy/ies as the army of mooks the heroes need to fight before taking on the "real bad guys." He's imagining it in different colours (or has a couple R.O.B.s in different colours) and keeps putting it on the table to fight the good guys until he gets tired of it and decides to make R.O.B. become one of the good guys.

[[WMG: The Island of the Ancients is actually [[VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles Angel Island]].]]
First of all, it's a Main/FloatingContinent with just about the same shape as Angel Island is shown to have in the Sonic Games. Second, if you watch the cutscene where Samus and Pikachu leave the Research Facility, you can see a stone altar that looks almost exactly like the Shrine of the Master Emerald, sans Emeralds. As a [[Main/PhoenixWrightAceAttourney wise judge]] once said: "two conicidences pointing to the same thing seems more like a pattern".
What happened is this: a few days before everything happened, Knuckles suddenly received word that he had won an all-expenses paid vacation. Being gullible, he left and the Master Emerald got stolen; presumably by Robotnik or Wario. The island was targeted because of its vague but powerful mystic importance, and becasue there was a culture of robots living inside it, which made the place perfect for Tabuu's plans.

All this leads up to Knuckles coming back from his vacation and finding a very shiny piece of air where his life's mission used to be. Again.

* Whether you're comparing the Isle of the Ancients against the Floating Island as seen in Sonic & Knuckles or the version in Sonic Adventure, the Isle looks nothing like the Island beyond both being flying rocks. They're completely different shapes.
** At the most I'm betting it'd just be a ShoutOut, sadly.
*** I like to think it is at least an equivalent of Angel Island. Maybe in the next game Sonic will visit the island and find the hidden Master Emerald or something.
** Completely different shapes? Really? Compare the Isle of the Ancients, shown [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/map1.jpg here]], and Angel Island, shown [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/180px-Island.PNG here]]. Now, Angel Island has a few more mountains than the Isle of Ancients, but that's what happens when Robotnik burns and-or takes over your hometown on a regular basis.
*** "A few more mountains" is a pretty huge understatement. Angel Island's got a lot more altitude to it. And if you compare it to the Sonic Adventure version, which has a much, MUCH larger 'underside', they look even less alike.
* It's probably ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog's Angel Island. All the labs are abandoned ancient Echidna technology, or Dark Legion bases. Nobody uses them, and they were sealed away. Until Dr. Eggman got hired by Ganondorf to conquer Angel Island. He then roboticised all the Echidnas turning them into ROB's, and Knuckles became the Ancient Minister. Then ordered them to bring out all the technology they had. And as soon as Eggman finished taking complete control, [[HijackedByGanon Ganondorf]] betrayed [[TheManBehindTheMan him]]. And he's never heard from for the rest of the game.

[[WMG: The Isle of Ancients is the [[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon Hidden Land.]]]]
Compare the two. They are both floating islands in the sky, and they are both hard to find. The Hidden Land was pulled through Subspace into the Brawl-verse, and it became a base of the Subspace Army. Temporal Tower was destroyed long ago and replaced with the Subspace Bomb Factory. This means that Super Smash Bros Brawl is actually the future of Mystery Dungeon 2, if Darkrai actually succeeded in his plan.

[[WMG: Geno is actually in Brawl, as so many fans requested.]]
For that matter, he is also in the original game and Melee.

Now, I'm going to randomly switch to talking about Kirby. As far as I know, Kirby has never left his universe, known as Dream Land. (Or Popstar, or whatever planet he's on, but damn it I'm calling the universe Dream Land.) Obviously, this is because he is in the world of dreams. It stands to reason [[spoiler:(well, no, it actually doesn't. At all. Let's just say it is.)]] that, if he were to appear outside of Dream Land, he would not appear as the pink puffball form he's known very well for.

Now, in Super Mario RPG, the Star Road was broken and and its pieces were scattered all over the Mushroom Kingdom. Kirby, the appointed guardian of peoples' dreams -- peoples' wishes -- realizes he has to go down and help recover them, but he can't take his original form outside of Dream Land [[spoiler:(for some random, arbitrary reason that I haven't figured out yet. Someone help me out here.)]]. So he sends his spirit down to inhabit -- you guessed it -- the body of a powerful-looking wooden puppet that shoots bullets out of his elbows.

Thus, Kirby is Geno, and Geno has been in Super Smash Bros. all along. TakeThat.

* Have you considered the possibility that Kirby ''is'' a dream and dreams basically can't exist outside Dream Land? I mean, do you see unrealistic things like Kirby in Real Life? Maybe a stretch, but...
** Does that make Kirby [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Tidus]]? Would maybe explain why he never drowns...
** Question- why would Kirby degrade himself by becoming something as lame and overhyped / overrated as Geno?
** Because he's a baby.
** Also, isn't the reason Geno calls himself Geno that his ''actual'' name is [[TheUnpronounceable unpronounceable]] in Mario's language?

[[WMG: Super Smash Brothers is the true story of a universe created by Shigeru Miyamoto.]]
As I stated in the {{WMG/SuperMarioBros}} WMG, Nintendo games are used to keep alternate planets/dimensions/timestreams etc. from being destroyed, conquered, or fucked-up. Shigeru Miyamoto used his powers to bring all the characters who went up against the hardiest foes (plus Pit, Pichu, and Mr. Game&Watch) together. He also ushered in the ''kickass-est foes themselves''. Super Smash Bros. Universe is, hence, an alternate version of the Nintendo multiverse where everybody goes between creating/foiling evil schemes.

Also, it is through Miyamoto's power that Sonic et al. became real, because most non-Nintendo video games are fake. (Snake is the exception, his exploits -- which happened in OUR world -- were covered up.)

[[WMG:The universe Brawl takes place in is post-Instrumentality Earth.]]
Well, everything else is!
* And thus, Tabuu is exposed as an Angel, given that his AT field stops Master Hand.

[[WMG: Master and Crazy Hand are controlled by the C.H.I.E.F.]]
This is all a BatmanGambit to lure [[WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego Carmen]] in. Expect her to appear in the DS edition.

[[WMG: Alternately, they are the hands of Carmen Sandiego.]]
Who else would be stealing all the characters from Nintendo (and now others') games?

[[WMG: The whole of the Subspace Emissary is just a game. Master Hand was never in any real danger.]]
It's simple, really. When his parents took him to the toy store one day, he found some trophies from a different "series" besides the Nintendo series. He takes them home and then starts playing with them. When he hears his best friend the Crazy Hand was coming over, he decides to create a new "campaign" with the blue angel dude trophy called Tabuu as the main bad guy, and the rest of the trophies as his minions. However, he thought the blue angel guy was so cool he wanted to keep it a secret, so he pretended that the Ancient Minister trophy was the main baddie, then later changing his mind and telling him that Ganondorf was the main baddie who was taking orders from him. Eventually, as the Crazy Hand kept beating the minions under his control, Master Hand pulled out the Tabuu trophy and said that the whole time he wasn't the one sending out all those bad guy trophies, the blue angel guy was controlling him. Crazy Hand, being a kid, thought this was incredibly brilliant. This also explains why Crazy Hand never showed up, you were the Crazy Hand the whole time.
* This troper will extend it further, the Master Hand is a boy named Nicholas who has an uptight family, he enjoys Nintendo, and usually plays it. He comes across a GenkiGirl named Tara (aka. Crazy Hand) who loves videogames in general, but has a soft spot for Nintendo. They get together and play with the figurines they collect. One day, Nicholas' father (aka. Taboo) locks them away in a chest. Tara picks the lock with her Sonic doll, and... okay, can someone write this?
** I thought of another thing! The Ancient Minister is Nicholas' mother, and the subspace bomb are a bag that she throws the toys in. Taboo binding Master Hand was symbolic of Nick's dad grounding him, and the Dedede Brooches were strings that Tara tied to the toys to be able to pull their three favorite figurines out. However, the Peach/Zelda figurines' string broke, so she just grabbed whatever and got Dedede. Also, Tara throws the Sonic Doll at Nicholas' father's head, which results in the final battle, where they ensue in a battle of wits!

[[WMG: Snake is the MetaGuy because he is being played by Master Hand's big brother/sister.]]
It makes sense. If the Brawl verse is a kid playing with his trophies, and Tabuu is his angry dad, he could have a sibling. This means that, in order to cheer hir kid brother up, s/he would take out a trophy s/he had -- Snake. But because s/he's not familiar with the setting, s/he constantly points things out that seem normal to Master Hand.

[[WMG: Master Hand wasn't killed by Tabuu.]]
Why not? Because then there can't be any sequels.
* Zombie.
** Would that give him the power to throw maggots at fighters?
*** I would love to see a pair of zombie hands in the next game as an optional boss, but it makes more sense that they survive or are revived.
** No. He wouldn't come back as a zombie, but as a [[StarWars Darth Vader]]-esque form you may already know as... the Power Glove. *[[DramaticThunder cue lightning strike]]*
* Alternatley when Tabuu was killed, Crazy Hand stole Tabuu's power and used it to revive Master Hand. Or just touch him lightly to revive him.
* Who says he was even dead at all? He keeps coming back despite being defeated multiple times and even eaten by Kirby over in his games. He's got JokerImmunity.

[[WMG: There will be a Subspace Emissary movie in the near future.]]
Likely straight-to-DVD, though.

Reasons for this guess;

There's more than an hour of cutscenes.

What SSB fans WOULDN'T want a Brawl movie?

There are cutscenes deleted from the game.

All you really have to do is add a little gameplay footage in between each cutscene and release it.

[[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4148056 Somebody's already thought of doing it.]]

[[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea10.html This post on the Dojo seems rather suspicious.]]
* And three years later... still nothing.
** [[Film/SuperMarioBros Ninten]][[IncrediblyLamePun don't]] [[Film/SuperMarioBros do movies anymore.]]

[[WMG: Sonic was missing for most of SSE because he was attempting to reach a fast enough speed to hit Tabuu hard enough to wreck his wings.]]
Why did Sonic only show up in time to fight Tabuu? How did he manage to hit Tabuu hard enough to break his wings when even the Master Hand couldn't scratch him? Why did he [[GameplayAndStorySegregation subsequently lower to a much more believable level of power]]? A possible answer to all three is that he spent the entirety of the crisis running, picking up speed to relativistic levels to deliver one or two ridiculously powerful hits to the BigBad when the situation called for it. He may or may not have known about Tabuu specifically, but likely knew something big and bad was happening and started running and looking out for whoever looked to be responsible. How did he gain access to Subspace? Doesn't seem hard... numerous "holes" had been opened, plus Tabuu seemed to draw much of the world into subspace toward the end. Why wasn't Sonic as powerful afterward? Well... he stopped, thus not moving at relativistic speeds, thus rendering him unable to hit with infinte mass anymore.
Feel free to poke holes in this theory, it was just something this troper came up with at random.
* This actually makes sense since the Flash pulled the same trick once (in a Justice League episode I believe).
* My take was this: Sonic was not on the map yet when Tabuu's first red-ring attack happened, as evidenced by the fact that he did not get trophicated. He arrives right afterwards, on the furthest outskirts of Smashworld from the giant Subspace portal, and has to start playing catch-up. While we play through the Luigi/Dedede/Ness and Kirby levels in Subspace, Sonic is running closer. While we play through the Great Maze, Sonic is running closer. Being Sonic, and considering that all of the major enemies have been eliminated by everyone else already, he is able to traverse all of Smashworld, Subspace, & the Great Maze in the same amount of time it takes for Team Dedede to wake everyone and all of them to get through the Maze, hence his arrival at Tabuu's chamber at the same time as the rest of the cast. At that point, he's already moving, so then your idea about built speed does make sense, as he is able to cripple Tabuu's wings to weaken the red-rings.
* This was my theory -- he needed to take that big of a run up to hit Tabuu that hard. And since there's no Speed Force in Sonic, he didn't have to worry about that.

[[WMG: Super Smash Brothers in general, and the Subspace Emissary in particular, is actually a tabletop RP. Everyone's just engaged in DeepImmersionGaming.]]
Even if we assume that the Master Hand was creative enough to at least partially come up with the backstory for the Subspace Emissary on his own (Whether Tabuu is an extra-dimensional being, MH's Father, or being controlled by him), this doesn't explain why he has a ridiculous amount of trophies lying around. Even if we assume his parents are extremely rich, this still doesn't explain why Master Hand chooses only to use trophies when action figures are much more useful for doing pretend fighting. Either MH is a big enough fanboy to only use Nintendo trophies, or there's a more pragmatic reason he has both a ridiculous number of trophies, and chooses only to use those. This can be explained by Master Hand actually being a tabletop gamer Nintendo fanboy. The trophies are actually miniatures, and Master Hand is the GM. Before you ask "But wait! Super Smash Brothers is a fighting game, not an RPG!", that's because you're just seeing the battles from the point of view of the characters. In the real world, they're all rolling dice to see whether their attacks hit. [[spoiler:Okay, so it's not actually all that likely, but it's still an interesting idea that lets you see everything from an entirely different perspective.]]
* With this logic, the reason why characters turn into trophies instead of actually dying is because all the players are too immature to admit defeat.
* Or the characters do die in game, but this system just has [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist an absurdly lenient revive system]].

[[WMG: Peach and Zelda have enslaved a number of characters as gladiators.]]
The fact that Mario and Kirby start out as immobile trophies in the opening cutscene suggests that they were stored somewhere, along with who knows how many other characters. Since Peach nor Zelda are ever seen doing any actual work in their own games, it's possible they use these forced matches as a way to keep the public complacent.
* I just went with the idea that they turned into trophies on purpose for a dramatic entrance.
* [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Thanks for ruining Zelda for me, asshole.]]
** Dude, I hope you're joking. It's just a game and this is (probably) a joke theory.
** Plus, Smash Bros has its own canon. Zelda is still... herself in the LOZ canon.

[[AC: Misc. Part Two]]

[[WMG: Mario is an alternate universe counterpart to Superman, and all other Nintendo characters correspond similarly.]]
'''Warning, this is the longest part of the Page. You have been warned. Scroll to bottom for sorted out list.'''
* He wears a red and blue costume, has a similar name -- "Super Mario" -- gains special abilities from the environment of his adopted homeworld (tying in with the "mushroom kingdom has lesser gravity" theory mentioned above, which was the same explanation for Superman's powers in the original stories from the 30's -- note original Superman had the same basic powerset as Mario -- super strength, speed, and enhanced jumping ability), and is the primary hero in his universe. Most of Mario's additional powers come from plant life, such as mushrooms and fire flowers, which absorb sunlight through photosynthesis -- similarly to Superman's solar-fueled powers. Note that Mario's powerup abilities are similar to those of Superman:
* Fireflower - Heat vision
* Starman - Invulnerability
* Raccoon/Cape/Wing Cap/Red Star - Flight (especially the cape)
* Iceflower- Freeze breath
** Yes, this is a very loose connection, but consider the Tangent universe Superman, a bald black guy with ESP, and the numerous other bizarre elseworlds versions (German Expressionist Superman anyone?) and it's relatively believable.
*** Additionally, this also solves the mystery of Wario's origin, as Wario is quite clearly the alternate universe counterpart to Bizzaro, and is therefore most likely an imperfect clone.
* Furthermore, transitive equality means that Sonic is therefore an Elseworlds Goku, which makes sense what with the super-sonic form being oh so obviously Super Saiyan.
** And suddenly, "NOW I'LL SHOW YOU!" actually becomes evidence for this. I mean, just listen to it after hearing Goku a few times!
* Even further, this means Link is an Elseworlds Batman, what with all his weaponry, popularity, and stints between being a stoic badass and being cartoony.
** So does this make Super Smash Bros the Crisis?
*** Yes. Melee is Infinite Crisis, and Brawl is Final Crisis.
**** But wouldn't that in turn make the alloys and wireframes the O.M.A.C.s?
** QED Sheik = Catwoman.
* To really run this into the ground, Samus is Wonderwoman (raised in a isolated, utopian society and granted powers by the gifts of the gods/ sufficiently advanced aliens), Mew is the Martian Manhunter (Pokemon could be from Mars right?), Team Starfox are the Blackhawks (elite freelance mercenary unit of pilots), and they all live on Earth 64.
** Braniac is either Andross or Mother-brain.
* No, Samus is Iron (Wo)man. Oh wait, that's Marvel.
* Pit is Hawkman. Okay, now I'll stop.
* And Meta Knight is...um...hrm...''[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]]''!!
** That doesn't make sense, as Meta Knight and Kirby are both Nintendo characters from the get-go. As Kirby shows signs of imitation of Link, who is Batman, when he has a Sword power, Kirby is Robin, and batlike Meta Knight, a darker mentor to Kirby, is Nightwing.
*** No, no, Meta Knight is simply a Kirby who has swallowed a Batman.
* Wait, since "Toon Link" is the successor to regular Link, that makes ''him'' Robin. Kirby would be Green Arrow. Evidence: Green Arrow's arsenal contains a near-infinite assortment of arrows, including boxing glove arrows and bubbly fire-extinguisher arrows, which match up perfectly to Kirby's Fighter and Bubble powers.
** Alternatively, "Toon Link" is the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Terry McGinnis]] to Link's Bruce Wayne.
*** Kirby is ''obviously'' an organic AMAZO.
**** Considering how Kirby is a Warpstar Knight, he may be the analogue of another interplanatary law-enforcement officer -- Green Lantern.
***** Which would make Meta Knight one too...
****** To be exact, Meta Knight would be Sinestro.
* Ganondorf is Darkseid. This is fun!
** Considering that Ganondorf is Link's arch-enemy, he'd probably be the alternate of a Bat-foe. The only one who fits him, though, would be Bane.
*** Ra's Al Ghul would be a better fit -- immortal meglomaniac with a sweet cape (needs to be a trope), and a love of engaging the hero in dramatic climactic swordfights? Obviously, skull-kid is scarecrow, while the Dekus and Gorrons are races progenated by the benevolent counterparts of Posion Ivy and Clayface respectively.
* Also, Pikachu is Flash.
** No, Sonic is a Goku/Flash combo-{{Expy}}. Pikachu is Static. That's even the name of his ability.
*** Nah, Captain Falcon is Flash. Pikachu is Thor.
**** No. Captain Falcon is god.
* But doesn't that make Dr. Mario Clark Kent?
* I kind of want to say that following this logic, the [[VideoGame/EarthBound Chosen Four]] ''must'' be the Comicbook/{{Runaways}}... but then I remember they're Marvel and I brainfart.
* And would this make Olimar Squirrel Girl? I mean, a character who uses his many small minions to defeat opponents who are much stronger in canon?
** No, as she is of Marvel, and Pikmin was a 1st party game. Judging from his ability to command legions of plantlike creatures, who become more powerful by being around him, he's a good alternate version of Poison Ivy, more limited in abilities because Main/GoodIsDumb.
*** He's Poison Ivy [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] who, due to Hocotatian DNA corruption, ended up male and benevolent.
**** Two words: Swamp Thing. Space changed him.
* Having played sub-space emmissary, and taking the above into account this troper can now confirm that Master Hand is the Monitor, Crazy Hand is the Anti-monitor, and Tabuu is Superboy Prime -- he was the protagonist of a game that Nintendo never got around to making (possibly Project H.A.M.M.E.R), and like Superboy-Prime, is taking his revenge on the core universe for his lost chance to be a hero.
* Luigi... let's see... same powers as Superman/Super Mario, except weaker and faster, with a completely different attitude... would that make him Supergirl? Sheesh, Luigi can't catch a break even in WMG...
** He could also be Mon-El...
** I'd suggest Krypto, only now I've got the mental image of Luigi saying, in a London accent, "Oh my God, I'm the caped dog!"
** He could be Captain Marvel, a thinly-veiled Superman Expy that DC later bought the rights to.
*** The Krypto analogue is most likely Yoshi... Damn it! Now I have the mental image of Yoshi responding to all Mario's instructions with an electronic, slightly camp "YES MASTER".
* Bowser is a fusion of Pre-crisis Lex Luthor and Doomsday -- He has the former's meglomania, and penchant for insane schemes, but not his mad science skills (which seem to have gone to Bowser Junior), and the latter's physical power and immortality, but not his adaption abilities (note that lava hurts him in both the original Super Mario Bros, and Super Mario Galaxy).
** Which in turn would make Mario's cosmically mischievous, sparsely-appearing foe King Boo Mr. Mxyzptlk!
** Bowser seems more like a Darkseid to me: "I am many things, Mario - but here, I am a god!"; "I never settle. What I cannot have, I destroy.". Seriously, it writes itself.
* Solid Snake, then, would be the alternate of [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]]. Not sure why, but it seems to fit, and puts Snake distinctly outside of normal canon (but within easy reach for a crossover).
* The Ice Climbers are, of course, the Wonder Twins.
* Tabuu would be a malevolent [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]]... ''with butterfly wings''.
** And Porky is Ozymandias, Lucas is Nite Owl, and Ness is Rorschach.
*** Tabuu is almost certainly the Anti Monitor.
* All I want to know is when we're going to see Nintendo VS Mortal Kombat.
* Since they're both joke characters, would Mr. Game & Watch be Ambush Bug?
** Maybe Mr. Game & Watch is the incarnate of all pre-Superman comic book characters.
*** Specifically, Mr. Game & Watch is the first comic ''strip'' character: Yellow Kid!
*** I say Mr. Game & Watch is Martian Manhunter. He's from another world, he changes shape, doesn't speak much (even by Nintendo standards - he just beeps), and his world (the Game & Watch Series/Black & White 2D simple games) is kind of dead. Plus he doesn't exactly have a place outside of Smash Bros. Alternatively - Elongated/Plastic Man.
* I guess this makes Mega Man...Optimus Prime?\
** Nah, he's an amalgamation of the Metal Men, keeping with the DC theme.
* Someone really should make this WMG into a webcomic.
* This troper sorts it out something like this, along with the reasons stated above:
** Mario: Superman - Main most iconic hero, variety of powers, PrimaryColorChampion
** Luigi: Captain Marvel - Same powers, deliberate expy
** Peach: Lois Lane
** Bowser: Lex Luthor/Doomsday
** Yoshi: Krypto
** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume)
*** Or Bizarro, (In WarioLand Overalls costume seeing that Wario is the opposite of Mario)
** Link: Batman (No intrinsic powers but tenacity, wit, tons of gadgets. Equally iconic to the brand as Mario / Superman)
** Toon Link: Batman (Terry as a younger person that takes up the mantle of the Hero generations later)
*** Or Bat-Mite (as a cartoony version of a serious character)
** Zelda: Barbara Gordon, with the slower and more intelligence-based Zelda form being Oracle, and the speedier and more physical Shiek being Batgirl
** Ganondorf: Ra's Al Ghul
** Samus: Wonder Woman Main female hero, during the MetroidPrime era was often seen as a third to Mario and Link.
** Fox: Green Lantern Hal Jordan Inter-planetary peacekeeping squadron
** Falco: Green Lantern John Stewart
** Wolf: Sinestro
** DK: Aquaman (King of a biome)
** Diddy: Aqualad
** Mr. Game And Watch: Vintage Superman - Old
** Captain Falcon: Flash - Super Speed, flashy personality
** Kirby: Amazo
** Meta Knight: OMAC
** Dedede: Penguin
** Pikachu: Static
** Jigglypuff: Shebang
** Pokemon Trainer: Will Magnus
*** Pokemon are the Metal Men
** Lucario: Soul Power
** Marth: Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)
** Ike: Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
** Olimar: Martian Manhunter - Stranded on earth
** Pit: Green Arrow - Archer
** Ice Climbers: Wonder Twins - Twins
** Ness: Hawkman
** Lucas: Warhawk
** R.O.B.: Red Tornado
** Snake: John Constantine
*** Alternately, if third party=Marvel, Snake could be Agent Venom. I dunno, it just seems to fit.
*** Or, he could be Captain America.
** Sonic: Spider-Man (as rival company's most iconic hero, popular by being a witty teen in contrast to Mario/Superman's clean cut adult)
*** Or Goku (as Comics vs. Manga counterpart, since Sonic even has WordOfGod DragonBall influences)
** Villager: Jimmy Olsen
** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man)
*** Or Astroboy (if third party = Anime/Manga with Sonic as Goku)
** Wii Fit Trainer: Black Canary
** Rosalina: Dr. Light
** Little Mac: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Muhammad_Ali Muhammad Ali]]
*** Either that or the Atom (Al Pratt)
** Tabuu: Anti Monitor
** Master Hand: The Spectre
** Crazy Hand: Parallax
*** Kirby matches up almost perfectly with Amazo; Metaknight would be OMAC (or vice versa).
*** Pokémon Trainer could be Dr. Will Magnus, and his Pokémon are the Metal Men.
*** I don't get the Jigglypuff/She-Bang comparison.
* No, you guys have it wrong. Link is indeed Franchise/{{Batman}}, but Toon Link is not Terry. In the ''Batman'' comics, there was an alternate-universe version of Batman called Bat-Mite who was a big-eyed cartoony thing with a huge head and a small body that did everything Batman did but with an extra "goofy" cartoonish flair. And ''that'' is who Toon Link is in the Smashverse.
* [[AnimalCrossing Blanca]] is The Question.
* If VideoGame/{{Beyonetta}} is in SBB4, would that mean that she is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Avenger Crimson Avenger]]?
* Now we've got Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Megaman to sort out... I'm not sure about the others but Megaman could easily be Manga/AstroBoy.
* An optimistic bystander-turned-hero in a WorldOfBadass? Quite clearly the Villager is JimmyOlsen.
* The Wii Fit Trainer is obviously Black Canary. That just leaves Rosalina.
** If you ask {{Moviebob}}, she's ''Kismet''. Otherwise, ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}.

[[WMG: In response to the DC comics connection above]]
If Mario is Superman then Sonic is a composite mixture of the Superman [[CaptainErsatz clones]].
* Goku
** Super Sonic transformation similar to Super Saiyan
* Sentry
** Dark Sonic form similar to The Void
* Captain Marvel "Shazam"
** Manga Sonic was a kid who transformed.
** Captain Marvel moved from a smaller publisher to DC comics, Sonic primarily makes Nintendo games [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 with troubled exceptions]]. But in the past they were rivals to the other company.

[[WMG: Lucario is a [[DragonBall Saiyan]].]]
No, he is not a Pokemon. Even in the Pokemon universe, he secretly belongs to a race of Saiyans. Seriously, [[http://img525.imageshack.us/i/1215198418lucariosmashtm9.jpg/ Just look at his final smash.]]
* If so, he must be Sonic's minion, as he has never been able to become a Super Saiyan as Sonic does.
* Lucario replaced Mewtwo by killing him in a seven-episode-long battle, after he discovered that Mewtwo was related to Frieza, the destroyer of the Saiyan homeworld.
* If you guys are just kidding, sorry, but SERIOUSLY. He was just VOICE-acted by Vageta. And the aura....

[[WMG: Mewtwo is [[DragonBall Z Frieza]].]]
Both have a white/whitish and purple color scheme, both use telekinesis, both are uber powerful, they both have tails.... Coincidence? I think ''NOT!''
* And he was replaced by Lucario who is similar to -- and voice acted by the same person as -- Goku.
** Alt theory... he could be another one of Frieza's race.

[[WMG: Tabuu isn't evil.]]
This is actually the basis for a Fanfiction I want to write at some point with alot of alternate dimension stuff, so watch out for brainfarts.

Tabuu is from an alternate universe, where instead of there being a creative and a destructive force, Tabuu is both at once. Since this is an alternate version of the Brawl universe, all the characters in this alternate world are similar but different. Maybe he's a Nintendo fan, or maybe it's just a coincidence.

Whatever the case, Crazy Hand makes the subspace dimension, which explains its destructive power, and uses it as a bridge between dimensions. Crazy heads into Tabuu's world and forces him into subspace, then closes the portal behind him, explaining why Crazy isn't in the Brawl storyline.

Then Tabuu appropriately goes mad and uses subspace to get revenge by destroying what he thinks is Crazy's universe; in a way, he chose the right place, but destroying it would only make Crazy happier. Anyway, Tabuu starts his evil plan to destroy Crazy's own personal world using the power of the subspace dimension, and meanwhile Crazy is tearing his universe into confetti. The reason why Tabuu doesn't destroy things, and instead creates the "great maze", is because he's trying to rebuild his own universe. Of course, the Heroes trophify/destroy him, and before Subspace closes, Crazy returns through it. Essentially dooming a entire universe forever with his power.

Crazy just destroyed a universe and got away with it. While Tabuu tried to BUILD one and got destroyed.

Bet you feel a bit guilty now.

* Nnnope.
* But since the characters obviously have some sort of communication (how else did Lucario and Meta Knight convince Snake to help them?), Tabuu should have been able to explain. They knew Crazy Hand was missing, so that part, at least, was believable. Furthermore, why didn't he just steal building materials from the various worlds?
** For the second question: He kinda was. For the first: Since we're assuming the smashers communicate without talking, then we don't know if Tabuu was doing the same, and the Smashers [[BloodKnight just]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy didn't]] [[MoralDissonance care]].
* He didn't bother to try explaining himself, he made evil clones, was the man behind various ''villains,'' and there's the whole "mass slaughter of R.O.B.s via Subspace Bomb detonation" bit. Yeah, I still enjoyed beating him down.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are controlled by the next evolution of Wham Bam Rock.]]
First we had Wham Bam Rock in ''Kirby Super Star'', with stone hands that did a lot of the things that Master Hand does, swatting, smashing, grabbing, etc. Then in Kirby Super Star Ultra, we get Wham Bam Jewel, who upgrades to using Master-Hand style finger gun moves and such. He will most likely continue to escalate his form until he reaches a godlike amount of power, perhaps with a wish from NOVA, and become Wham Bam Master.

[[WMG: Master and Crazy Hand are the Mirror Universe versions of Wham Bam Rock.]]
In a parallel to the above, we see Master and Crazy Hand in the Mirror World in ''Kirby: The Amazing Mirror''. The Mirror World has opposite copies of several Kirby characters: Kirby himself, [[spoiler:Meta Knight]], and Whispy Woods (King Golem) to name a few. Wham Bam Rock is a deity-looking stone idol with unattatched hands made of stone. Master and Crazy hand ''are'' deities with perfectly humanlike hands. Both have very similar attack patterns, although Wham Bam tends to use falling stones more than lasers. Just close enough to be fitting, and yet worlds apart in implementation.

[[WMG: Tabuu is [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]].]]
Blue, bald, terrifyingly powerful. Doctor Manhattan states his intention to create humanity before leaving at the end of ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''. Tabuu creates the Primids. Possibly, the long, lonely trip through space has made him insane, possibly to the point of hallucinations and delirium, hence the destruction the Subspace Army causes and the aggression towards the player characters.
* If only [[spoiler:Rorschach]] had timed his dodges right...
* Actually, he's a program '''written''' by Dr Manhattan, which is why he looks kinda like him, because {{Tron}} looked like his creator too.
* If he was Manhattan, that does raise the question of what happened to his... y'know... I mean, Tabuu's naked as Manhattan always is, but he doesn't have the ''parts.'' Did he cut them off or something?

[[WMG: Nintendo and Microsoft are secretly allied.]]
They plan to take down Sony by hoarding all the good games, splitting them between each other. The fact that the XBox is releasing KatamariDamacy and [[Franchise/MetalGear Metal Gear Solid]] games only serve to confirm this.

This really doesn't belong here, but the other place I have it is hard to find.

[[WMG: The SSB world is a CrapsackWorld.]]

Think about it. They are all kept as slaves, only released out of their trophy forms to fight in front of thousands as entertainment. The SSE is the chronicle of their escape, and SSE army is trying to reclaim them back.

[[WMG: SSE is a parable encouraging harmlessly weird hobbies.]]
Master Hand is still the avatar for a collector of Nintendo trophies, but he isn't a child anymore. He's a grown man, and pressure from the outside world, represented by Tabuu, has made him try to break with his "childish" past. He stops displaying his collection in his living room, starting with Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link; eventually, he gets into a shouting contest with a close friend about his hobby, set off by the Ganondorf trophy. The friend says that such things are childish and that he should focus on more adult things. At this point he gives up and puts the whole collection in storage, and Roy, Mewtwo, Pichu, Dr.Mario, and Young Link are broken or lost by the move.

Some time later, he finds the King Dedede, Ness, and Luigi trophies. Hit with waves of nostalgia, he decides to look into the online presence of trophy collectors and finds a surprisingly active and friendly community -- people the same age as him, even. He's finally inspired to bring the collection out of storage by someone whose favourite trophy is Sonic. He gets into further arguments now and then, but Tabuu's wings have been clipped, and Master Hand shines even brighter for it. He then goes and buys Toon Link and Wolf.
** If this is the case, then Tabuu (Taboo) is a MeaningfulName.

[[WMG:In the Brawlverse, King Dedede is a pimp.]]
* Evidence 1: 3 of his costumes are stereotypical "pimp colours" (Pink, Baby blue, and Purple) and his normal outfit is red, which means he flies the flags of a Blood. He also has the {{Playboy}} logo on the back of his Pimp coat.
* Evidence 2: When he trophyfies Luigi, which is his way of making you a hoe, he gives him a pimp slap, to show him who's boss.
* Evidence 3: He puts two buttons on Ness and Luigi but sacrifices his own to put in on a Princess, because they would generate the most profit.
* Evidence 4: In the SSE, he lives in the Playboy Mansion.
* Evidence 5: When Bowser wrecks Dedede's mansion, Dedede looks up and just lets a huge concrete block knock him out, obviously because he smoked one too many doobies and it messed up his reflexes.
* Evidence 6: As soon as all the fighters are beaten by Tabuu, the badges activate, because that means he was not one to buy the services of his ladies.
* Evidence 7: He pimp slaps Bowser in the face, which automatically makes Bowser shut up, evidence of a strong Pimp hand.
* Evidence 8: He throws his hoes at you.
** Okay, that made me crack up. Hoe-Throw attack...

[[WMG:The Crazy Hand is the kid's wanking Hand.]]
* Which is why he is crazy.
** That doesn't sound right to me -- That's about the age you ''stop'' playing with toys. Unless this kid has some weird, weird interests.... Rule 34 and all that... But if that were true, the game wouldn't be about Nintendo Characters ''fighting.''
*** Which is why he doesn't show up until ''Melee'' -- at which point the kid has entered middle school and is having trouble putting away his toys/experiencing an awkward sexual awakening. By the time he's in high school, he's done with the toys and has settled for writing Nintendo crossover fanfiction (SSE), which in turn explains why Crazy Hand doesn't show up in SSE.
*** Somehow, the introduction of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl, along with Zelda's more realistic design, only reinforces that for me.
*** This goes along perfectly with the concept of Master Hand and Crazy Hand being the hands of Christian Weston Chandler.

[[WMG:Tabuu is a [[{{Tron}} program]] created by [[KingdomHearts Master Xehanort]].]]
* They look exactly alike; Tabuu has the neon glow. Also helps that ''Tron'' has been a world in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. And that the two games happen to share a scenario writer. This, of course, has the supplementary WMG that ''Brawl'' is in fact a game on Ansem's computer network, because his apprentices loved to have late night Smash Bros. marathons.
** This troper now imagines Xehanort, Lord of TheHeartless, using Dark-Toon Link in a game against Sora, who's using Kirby... hilarious.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are VideoGame/{{Rayman}}.]]

They have no visible support. They're like white gloves. They're right and left. Yeah. They're Rayman.

[[WMG: The whole "the Smashers exist only to fight" in the backstory is simply an allegory for their status as video game characters.]]

[[WMG: Lucas came to [[RealLife our world]] and became famous.]]

OK, first, consider the character of Lucas himself. His name is ''Lucas'', his symbol is a ''planet'', his hairstyle is... well, let's say it's ''distinctive'', and he fights with a mystical energy that surrounds us all. He comes from the world of ''Earthbound'' / ''Mother'', which has very strong ties to alien mythology, so we know he was exposed to that kind of story from an early age.

Next, Lucas gets thrust into the Smashverse. There, he's a young kid who is not very corageous, but in the Subspace Emissary he learns to man up and do the right thing for the common good after Ness cares for him, and he decides to go on an adventure to avenge him.

In the Smashverse, he also learns (and meets, of course) a group of people devoted to protecting a huge multiverse from a tyrannical ruler. These people (the other smash characters; Mario, Link, Samus, etc.) have extraordinary abilities, but they're up against a group with similar abilities that uses them for evil. Also, note that there are many more good guys than bad guys in the Smashverse.

OK, now fast-forward to AfterTheEnd of the Subspace Emissary, when everything has been saved. Lucas, now an expert at leaping from universe to universe, comes to ''[[RealLife our world]]'', where he grows into an adult. He still has fond memories of all his adventures as a child, but realizes that in this world nobody would accept them as truth. So he writes the whole thing over again, changing the setting and a couple of names, and so it comes to pass that Lucas, first name [[GeorgeLucas George]], creates [[StarWars a pop culture phenomenon]].

See, in ''StarWars'', Luke, who is obviously another name for Lucas, has blond hair and lives a simple life until Empire agents attack the Lars Homestead. This is exactly what happened to Lucas; he was a blond-haired kid who led a simple life until an agent of the Empire, in this case Wario, attacked and "killed" someone he cared for, thus sending Lucas on a quest to avenge him.

In ''StarWars'', the main villain is a tall guy in black who wears a long flowing cape, but then turns out to be controlled by a hunched and even more evil figure who was controlling everything from behind the scenes. Ganondorf obviously translated into Darth Vader, whereas Tabuu was the Emperor.

The "good guys" in the Smashverse translated into the Jedi Council, whereas the "bad guys" became the Sith. Notice that in the ''StarWars'' universe, there are only ever two Sith, the master and the apprentice. This is exactly the same as in the Smashverse; Ganondorf serves Tabuu (or his puppet the Master Hand), but there are many subordinates doing their dirty work, such as Wario and Bowser. Bowser in particular is clearly General Grievous, because he transforms his victims into trophies and then uses their "evil trophies" for his own good. General Grievous steals and uses the lightsabers of fallen Jedi.

I rest my case.

* Even though this is about the most far-fetched thing I have ever read, I congratulate the troper who created this for having such an imagination.
** Why, thank you! I wrote a more extended joke essay where I plotted out both stories directly, noting the similarities, ("coincidence!? I think not!") and gave every ''Smash'' character a ''StarWars'' expy that matches, but that's too long to put it up here.
* First, I want to say that was awesome. Second, there is some kind of thing that you can put long things into on this site. Like it's a little button that says "long" and when you click it, it expands and your long essay or whatever is inside. I'm not sure how to make one though. If you look on the Franchise/SuperMarioBros page, I think you can see some and just edit to see how to make it.
* Ganondorf is Darth Vader? ''Ganondorf''? To say nothing of [[AngstySurvivingTwin his]] [[LukeIAmYourFather brother]]?
* That kind of thing happened in Lucas's own game, too! IT'S TRUE!

[[WMG: Tabuu was created from an unintentional crossover of the Creator/{{Nintendo}} verse and the SquareEnix verse.]]

The [[KingdomHearts Heartless]] were invading the {{Tron}} world when some sort of universal shift occured, spawning several powerful [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Noise]]. These Heartless/Noise possessed/attacked a computer program, which was written into the Nintendo verse. Thus we have Tabuu, who looks like a Tron program, creates creatures that look suspiciously like Heartless, and has Noise-like wings.

[[WMG: The Home Run Bat is the Casey Bat from ''VideoGame/EarthBound''.]]
It's a baseball bat with supreme power tempered by the fact that it's wildly inaccurate, missing at least 75% of the time due to the slowness of the smash (or SMAAAAASH) attack.

[[WMG:Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are actually [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante, Trish, and Lady]] respectively.]]
* Perhaps it was a VERY slow business night, no jobs needing doing and what have you. So they perhaps got some action figures out of Dante's secret drawer, figures which Dante and Vergil used to play with when they were kids. Call it killing time. And since this is [[CrazyAwesome DANTE]] we're talking about here, awesome can only ensue.

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[FatalFury Terry Bogard]], [[VideoGame/ArtOfFighting Ryo Sakazaki]], and [[TheKingOfFighters Kyo Kusanagi]], respectively.]]
They're having a fight to see who becomes SNK's mascot.

[[WMG: The Void of VideoGame/SuperPaperMario and Subspace are one in the same.]]
They both exist between realities, have a [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple-black color scheme]], eat worlds, have a theme of overall emptiness, and a slight CosmicHorrorStory feel if you [[FridgeLogic think about it for a while]].

* And also Luigi's negative zone.

[[WMG: Suda51 created the graphics for the subspace emissary]]
Suda51 of ''Killer7'' and ''NoMoreHeroes'' was the one who did the graphics for the subspace emissary, specifically the purple world eating blob things. ''Killer 7'' had similar effects when an enemy was shot. Suda51's name is in the credits.

[[WMG: The Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are all elements of the kid's personality.]]

Master Hand is the side of him that likes creation and is responsible for creating the smash universe, Crazy hand is the destructive side of his personality that makes him want to force his trophies to fight over and over, and Tabuu is the side of him that knows how weird his hobby is. The Subspace Emissary is a metaphor for when he decides to put up his trophies for good (represented by Tabuu defeating Master Hand), but eventually deciding to bring them all out of storage.

[[WMG: The stages of all three games were brought to Smash World by way of Subspace Bombs.]]
Sections of Mushroom Kingdon, Hyrule, Planet Zebes, etc. (and Alaska) were pulled into Subspace by ROBs with Subspace Bombs. You get ring outs when you touch the walls of the bubbles they're in. This is also why the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule look different in every game they've appeared in.

[[WMG: The Smashers are professional wrestlers.]]
Nintendo's characters came together and decided to get into wrestling, creating fictional characters and storylines for themselves; they aren't really enemies, just faces and heels.
* This is why they all have grabs and holds.
* Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, and Young Link retired their characters.
* And why matches only end by ring outs? Because instead of staging mat wrestling or mixed martial arts, the Nintendo characters decided to be different and stage over the top sumo wrestling.

[[WMG: Master Hand and Crazy Hand are YOUR HANDS!]]
* My hands do not shoot out lasers and bullet bills, thank you very much!
** Mine do, if I drink 2,000,000 truckloads of redbull.

[[WMG: Tabuu is [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] reincarnated..]]
* He wants to reshape the world to his liking.
* [=ROBs=] are completely expendable, and not part of his New World.
* Mr. Game & Watches are just weapons.
* Everything was created for Tabuu.

[[WMG: The ''Subspace Emissary'' is a TakeThat to Modern Gaming.]]
It explains why the landscape is so [[RealIsBrown bland]], most of the music is over-the-top orchestrations, a lot of epic character moments, and tons of gunplay action. It also explains why Mario, Link, Samus, Snake, and Kirby had such enormous roles, since they were characters from TheEighties, in which gaming wasn't about spectacular graphics or high-end commercializing, but simply about goofing around and having fun. However, it also mocks really old gaming, as ROB and Mr. Game & Watch are villains.
* You call [[SceneryPorn those backgrounds]] bland?
* Kirby's first video game appearance was in 19''9''2 -- but then again, his first game was on the Game Boy, and gaming wasn't really about amazing graphics in the early '90s either...

[[WMG: Master Hand is actually [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]], and he's trapped in subspace.]]

Think about it. Japan created PacMan, Mario, Franchise/MetalGear, Mother, and Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, all games spanning different genres and stories, whereas the only thing Americans created were games like Franchise/{{Halo}}, [[SpyroTheDragon Spyro]], SpaceInvaders, and many other games in which all you basically did was kill things. However, [[VideoGame/SimCity Will Wright]] was one of the very few on the west that could impress the Japanese because the games he made were mostly built around ''creating'' things, like [[VideoGame/SimCity cities]], [[VideoGame/TheSims families]], and even [[{{Spore}} cute little critters]]. Hence, since Wright likes to create universes, he was "reincarnated" in the game world as Master Hand. However, the Nintendo characters feared his presence because while he did manage to create, he could also destroy.

So by the time we're in the Subspace Emissary, Tabuu is actually the representation of what American gamers want; to create havoc upon various worlds. However, because Master Hand (Wright) was able to earn some appreciation and respect with the characters (the different parts of the world), and Tabuu just controlled Master Hand to convince whoever wanted to pay attention that creating subspace zones were "creating things". This, of course, would lead the other characters to notice that something was dreadfully wrong, and well, it explains why people like Mario a lot again...
* One problem: Dr Wright's assist trophy.

[[WMG: Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and Tabuu are [[TimeCrisis Wild Dog]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Arche Klein]], and [[MortalKombat Shao Kahn]] respectively.]]
* Smash Bros doesn't HAVE to make sense.
** Furthermore, WMG's don't have to make sense.

[[WMG: Tabuu is secretly Bloo from FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends.]]

[[WMG: SSE is the Series/DoctorWho universe, in which the Doctor has turned evil.]]
OK, here we go, because we don't have a detailed example yet- Tabuu is the Doctor, turned evil for some reason yet to be explained, and Master Hand is the Master under his control, just as he initially intended. The Shadow Bugs are an alternate form of the Toclafane. The [=ROBs=] are an as-yet unknown hybrid of a Cyberman and a Dalek, making Ganondorf a physically superior Davros who does not need a wheelchair. Kirby is the Abzorbaloff. Ridley is a Reaper/Chronovore. Sonic is the meta-crisis doctor (all in blue, of course) who has dimension jumped to stop Tabuu. The Halberd is the Valiant. The actual world of SSE is Wales, the floating island is just Cardiff, and subspace is the rift. The Halberd is the Vanguard. Captain Falcon is actually Captain Jack, and Olimar is Ianto, and the other 'mercenaries' (Fox, Falco, Snake, Samus) are other members of Torchwood. Zelda is Gwen Cooper, and Link (Rhys) is accepting of her undercover persona Sheik. The Pokemon are all soldiers in UNIT, mooks that do their master's bidding. Peach is Sarah Jane Smith, and Mario is a humanoid form created for Mr. Smith. Yoshi is K9, and Luigi is actually the Trickster. That's all I can think of for now, but feel free to add more...
* Alternatively, SSE is a Doctor Who/Stargate crossover: Tabuu is the Valeyard; The Doctor AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence after his final regeneration (Daniel Jackson); Samus is a regeneration of the Doctor's daughter (can't remember her name), who at an earlier point regenerated into Sam Carter; Snake is actually the result of a noodle incident involving Jack O'Neill, the Jack mini-me/clone made by Loki, and Todd; ROB is in fact Dalek Caan; King DeDeDe is Merlin; Ganondorf is a much younger Davros; Pit, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic are Timelords who opposed James Bond; the other Smashers or Tok'ra of the Wheeping Angels/SG Team members/Companions; and all the mooks and elite mooks are (evil)Time Lords/Daleks/Cybermen/Gou'ald/Wraith/(evil)Asgard; The Island of the Ancients did in fact belong to the Ancients ([[NeglectfulPrecursors why the hell do you think it was full of Subspace Bombs?!]])

[[WMG: The Brawl-verse is [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Subcon]].]]
Ever wondered why ''Subspace'' exists? The Subspace in [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 SMB2]] and the Subspace in Brawl are one and the same. The entire world in Brawl is the dream world twisted by Master Hand/Tabuu to put his plan into action. All the fighters are dream versions of themselves.

[[WMG:"The Kid" who is playing with his toys as Master/Crazy Hand is, in fact, [[VideoGame/IWannaBeTheGuy The Kid]].]]
He's playing with his toys in elaborate mock battles as part of his training to be The Guy.
* Right, except for the fact that there not a single shred of evidence to support this anywhere in either game. Or maybe it's the fact that the first Super Smash Brothers game came out years before ''I Wanna Be The Guy'' was released, let alone conceived!
** Yes, it's true that SSB came out before ''I Wanna Be The Guy''... but again, The Kid was doing it in ''preparation''. By the time IWBTG is released, it's already time for The Kid to go out and be The Guy. So what was he doing ''before'' it was time? That's right. Preparing.
* The Kid is young [[JakAndDaxter Jak]].
* No, no, The Kid is [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Mr. Mew]].

[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. is {{Smosh}}. Master Hand is Anthony Padilla, Crazy Hand is Ian Hecox, and Tabuu is the Teleporting Fat Guy.]]
Anthony could be Master Hand because in most videos, he seems smarter and more creative than Ian, and Master Hand is smarter and more creative than Crazy Hand. Also, it is not easy to pressure him into doing things (in "Going to the Mountains," it was said he is immune to peer pressure), but if someone forces him to do something (Tabuu forcing Master Hand to do his bidding), he will do it. This would also explain why Master Hand would rule over a land where figurines come to life, as Anthony's favorite movie is Toy Story.

Ian is Crazy Hand because in most videos (especially Food Battle 2008), he seems very angry and destructive, but not very smart.

When the Teleporting Fat Guy teleports with his Nintendo Power Glove, there is a flash of light that is almost the same color as Tabuu. Perhaps his Power Glove malfunctioned and trapped him in Subspace in a form made of hard blue light. Over the years, he could have grown angry at Nintendo for creating the Power Glove that trapped him there, so he decided he would trap all of Nintendo's characters and their world in Subspace.
* Jossed. Super Smash Bros. has genuinely funny moments.

[[WMG:Sonic was sent by Crazy Hand, who had no knowledge of King Dedede's GambitRoulette.]]
As many have noticed ([[X2X This Troper]] included), Crazy Hand was suspiciously absent for the entire run of SSE. There were no hints of his presence, even though his brother/alter-ego/[[EvilCounterpart crazier opposing force of nature]]/other half/whatever spent the entire game forced under Tabuu's servitude via Chains of Light. Then came the (somewhat) unexpected JustInTime [[BigDamnHeroes Big Damn Hedgehog]] moment from Sonic...

Crazy Hand is definitely one unhinged character. His EvilLaugh instead comes off as LaughingMad and his fingers twitch ad infinitum, unlike the more composed stance of Master Hand. Although many of his moves [[UpToEleven ramp up]] the crazy factor (to the point that he "spider walks" and has hand spasms that create seismic waves), Crazy Hand is ''more of a threat'' than Master Hand.

When Master Hand was captured by Tabuu, Crazy Hand went into hiding. Sensing that all of the heroes were trophified by Tabuu's [[OneHitKill Off Waves]] (and not knowing of the Dedede Brooches), Crazy Hand searched for any other possible heroes that could help turn the tides. [[CallToAdventure The call was answered]] by Sonic, [[ChaoticGood a free spirit who won't stand by when evil is afoot]]. Apparently, Wolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff couldn't be bothered, because the former two [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack were out on an adventure]] and the latter was ''[[WhoWouldBeStupidEnough too busy practicing for a concert]]'' (that probably wouldn't even ''happen'' if Tabuu had his way). After pointing Sonic in the right direction (i.e. Subspace) and sending the Blue Blur on his way, Crazy Hand laid low again. After all, if Tabuu were to find him, he'd have control of both the forces of Order ''and'' Chaos. And well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck that would suck]]. Luckily, Dedede's GambitRoulette only served to ''bolster'' Crazy Hand's plan, as Sonic then teamed-up with the revived heroes and finally vanquished Tabuu, thus reuniting Crazy Hand with his brother.

Long story short, ObfuscatingInsanity ''at its finest''.

[[WMG:The "original" enemies in the Subspace Emissary are alternate universe versions of enemies from other games.]]
Glires and Roaders resemble Flamers and Wheelies from the ''Kirby'' series. Shellpods may look like giant beetles, but in every other way they could be related to Koopa Troopas. And if the Ticken -- a robot chicken that falls to bits and releases a tiny bird when you destroy it -- isn't a reference to the ''Sonic'' series, I don't know what is.
** I didn't even know that the puppits weren't ripped straight out of Twilight Princess when I saw them. And the location where they appear is suspiciously similar to the Sacred Grove, complete with dimension doors to parallel the time door.

[[WMG: Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu.]]
(Original title was "Pichu is the offspring of Pikachu and Jigglypuff")

Or maybe I'm just a sucker for romance in a fighting game. Go figure.

* Actually, that does make a lot of sense.
* ...but by Pokemon rules, [[GenderEqualsBreed it means the original Pikachu would have to have been female]], and Jigglypuff male.
* Pikachu/Ditto anyone? I'm writing a fic to "celebrate" HGSS and Generation V. Consider this: Pikachu is top tier in [=SSB64=], as well as second tier in Pokemon battles, but only when holding the Light Ball... which is needed to get a Pichu Volt Tackle. By breeding with a Ditto (or another Pikachu or Raichu) Pikachu could be Pichu's father.
** As a follow up to the above, Pikachu is based on Ash's Pikachu from the anime, which wasn't confirmed male until after Melee came out, but before Brawl. Therefore, Pikachu in SSB64/SSBM could have been female.
** Considering Pikachu's Final Smash is Volt Tackle, which only Pichu can get (through breeding), this makes a bit of sense.
*** Except the Pichu in Melee is from second-gen. Volt Tackle didn't exist then.

[[WMG:The Subspace Emissary storyline originally had Master Hand weakening Tabuu so the other fighters could beat him.]]

The ''real'' reason Sonic is absent for so much of Subspace Emissary is because he was a very late addition to the game, stuck in when most of the story had already been completed and introducing him earlier would have necessitated throwing out a huge chunk of what was already present. However, based on events leading up to the final battle, it's pretty clear that ''someone'' or ''something'' needs to weaken Tabuu in some way to make it defeatable.

Master Hand features prominently in the storyline, even though you never get to fight it. Its corpse is clearly visible when the characters enter Tabuu's inner sanctum, so it seems like the writers originally intended it to play some role in the final battle. Furthermore, Master Hand is the only non-Tabuu antagonist whose name appears on-screen in a cutscene that doesn't team up with the heroes in the final battle. Rather suspicious.

There's also the fact that, well, even after being defeated by Tabuu, we can still see Master Hand's corpse. In all three games, when a player character defeats Master Hand, it sort of crumples up, withers, and fades away. This suggests that the corpse we see is still alive, but unconscious, perhaps because Tabuu still had some use for it.

Thus, it seems likely that the original script called for Master Hand to turn out to be NotQuiteDead, and use its lasers to cut Tabuu's wings, likely being incapacitated again by Tabuu at this point. When Sonic was added, the least disruptive way to stick him into the story was to cut Master Hand's final scene and let Sonic do it instead.
* This explains why Sonic can suddenly become a laser beam. They probably just let players assume that it was just Sonic at high speed; in reality, it could have been an attack from Master Hand, with Sonic noises edited in.
* Maser Hand's laser beams are continuous. If that was originally meant to be Sonic, it should have been a flash of blue, not on screen as long. Alternatively Geno; music of the maze where Geno is found was {{dummied|out}} off the disk and Geno also shoots blue lasers. It could have been both, even (two lasers were shot), but Square did not allow it, which led to Sonic getting shoehorned in.

[[WMG:The Pikachu in the original game died of old age prior to Brawl.]]

This is an extension of the earlier theory about the Pichu in Melee evolving. Basically, the Pikachu was in his prime during the original SSB, but, being a rodent, ages fairly quickly, and was on his last legs in Melee, explaining the significant nerf. Sometime between Melee and Brawl, he finally passed away, and the producers decided to evolve the Pichu from Melee and hope nobody noticed. Unfortunately, that required a Trainer to bond with, per how Pichu evolves in the Pokémon games, and after evolving, the now-Pikachu didn't want to leave the nice Trainer. As a compromise, they made him a character in Brawl.
* That or the nice Trainer is Samus, which dovetails nicely into the storyline.
* Pikachu have lived for 50+ years in canon. That makes this theory rather unlikely.
** In the anime, not the games. Smash Bros is mainly game based

[[WMG: Most of the stages in the series are [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Dissidia]] versions of the characters' worlds.]]
Ever wondered why Luigi's Mansion is located on a floating island in the sky, unlike the actual game? The same goes with stages such as the original's Peach's Castle stage.
* Because they are table top the toys/trophies fight on modeled to look like a game world?

[[WMG: The world of Super Smash Bros. is only a small subsect of the {{MUGEN}} universe.]]
I think the title speaks for itself...

[[WMG: Master Hand will return and seek revenge.]]
In the next game's story mode, Crazy Hand will somehow get into Subspace and rescue Master Hand, who wasn't really dead, just unconscious and stranded. Master Hand will be angry that the characters who fought Tabuu did not find time to save Master Hand from Subspace, and he will create armies to get his revenge.

[[WMG: Tires don exits.]]
Or at least they're not supposed to. Except for Pichu being a JokeCharacter.
** Don't you mean "[[RougeAnglesOfSatin Tiers don't exist]]"? Still, that line is…funny in its own way.
** its an inside joke from the ssb forums.

[[WMG: Porky and his statue in this game are robots or Shadow bug clones.]]
This would explain him actually being here, as he [[spoiler:trapped himself in the Absolutely Safe Capsule for the rest of time.]]
Tabuu likely found out about him somehow, and not being able to bring the real thing to fight for him, had a substitute made. This could also explain why he doesn't look like the VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} Porky; the details weren't gotten quite right.

[[WMG: The Smash Brothers series is canon with all the series that cross over into it, and it is set in the Nintendo Universe's equivalent of [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who's Death Zone]].]]
Master Hand occasionally plucks several heroes out of time and space and places them into the Nintendo Death Zone in order to enjoy watching them fight, and then decides to fight them himself. As he is fond of the heroes and recognises them as such, he will always allow them to "defeat" him in battle and is never truly defeated. Tabuu and The Subspace Army then decided to invade the Nintendo Death Zone. Tabuu acquired the chains of light, which were powerful enough to contain Master Hand, and he wished to have control over it. The 'plucked from time' aspect also explains a few things. Firstly, Young Link and regular Link in Melee were both taken from the two time zones in Ocarina of Time. Toon Link and regular Link from Brawl were taken from VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] (as somehow, he can reach into numerous timelines). Mario is taken out of the events of VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine in Brawl, which is how he can have FLUDD on his back (even though FLUDD died). Wario's two alternate outfits are two versions of him from different times; Wario in his regular outfit is from his early appearances and in his ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' outfit from the events of one of those games. Dr. Mario was taken from the time of the game of the same name and this is why he and Mario can appear at the same time. The reason that at the start of the game Mario is seen as a trophy and is then thrown into the arena before coming to life is as follows: In Series/DoctorWho, with the arrival of a new Doctor in the Death Zone, the villian of the story recieved a small model of this Doctor which he placed onto a map where he wanted them to be. In the Nintendo Universe, it doesn't quite work the same, and when they are brought into the Death Zone, they initially appear as a giant trophy. Master Hand assures that the deaths of 'heroes' are not permanent by turning somebody into the easily revivabl, trophy form the second they would die; he does this because if they were to die in the Death Zone, it would be too damaging to the timeline. This also explains Sonic's appearance at the end of Brawl's storyline; Master Hand was free from his chains at this point and so decided that he would pluck another hero out of time in order for them to defeat Tabuu. Finally, just like Doctor Who, when they are returned to their original place in time and Space, their memory of the events is erased, which is why they are never referred to outside of the Smash Brothers series!
** [[BrickJoke F.L.U.D.D. didn't die.]]

[[WMG: Tabuu is a [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog Friend]]; Subspace is the Other Side.]]
He's second in command to [[{{Fantasia}} Chernabog]]. Just like the other Friends, he brings evil into the world by remotely manipulating other villains.

[[WMG: Captain Falcon is a [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Blaziken]] in disguise.]]
Think about it! All Pokemon in Smash Bros. have 4 true Pokemon moves between their Special moves and their Final Smashes. What are Captain Falcon's special moves? Neutral Special is a powerful punch that requires time to charge, and if the opponent attacks while it charges, it fails. Sounds like Focus Punch, doesn't it? His Side Special, when it connects, is a flaming punch, but not nearly as powerful as Focus Punch. Clearly this is Fire Punch. As for his Up Special, it seems like a Seismic Toss with a bit of flaming mixed in. And the clincher? His Down Special is a flaming kick. Obviously Blaze Kick! What Pokemon learns all these attacks and is famous for Blaze Kick? Blaziken.
* What about Infernape? It can learn all those moves too.
** It's Captain FALCON. Blaziken is bird-like.

[[WMG: Tabuu is actually a criminal who broke into Master Hand's house.]]
He ran in with a gun and held Master Hand hostage, forcing him to preform acts to benefit his needs. The person symbolizing Crazy Hand then proceeds to roundhouse him in the face and start fighting him until he falls down. Combine this with my above 'Nicholas and Tara' mini-theory for a better effect.

[[WMG: Sonic had never left subspace before the game.]]
For the sake of argument, this assumes that MH creates the trophies, imbuing them with the powers and memories of the original characters, then puts them in the World of Trophies to live their lives. He had just finished making Sonic when Tabuu grabbed him for his evil plan. Sonic wakes up in Subspace, not knowing where he is or how he got there, and wanders around for a bit until stumbling upon Tabuu and the others having a final battle.

[[WMG: The reason Luigi's Final Smash looks so weird is that, thankfully, YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm.]]
It's [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Luigi in]] [[VideoGame/PaperMario a dress]] which, if rendered in full 3D with the Wii's capabilties, would [[BrownNote shatter the minds of every Smash player who witnessed it]].

[[WMG: Whoever programmed the minigame at the end of Brawl's Classic and All-Star modes really hates the in-game franchises.]]
You're shooting at the in-game characters. Enough said.
* ...you're shooting at the trophies and their pictures. Not the actual characters.

[[WMG: SSE is canon to the Pokéverse, taking place within Red/Green/Blue.]]
Just think of it. Red starts with Squirtle and later catches an Ivysaur and Charizard. He could have easily caught Pikachu after SSE, and he uses all four of them in the battle with him in G/S/C/HG/SS.
* Official artwork and ingame data implies his starter was a Bulbasaur in Gen 1 and a Charmander as of Gen 2, though.

[[WMG: Alternatively, SSE takes place within a Generation III/IV counterpart of Pokémon Yellow.]]
Red's starter was Melee Pikachu, who he raised the happiness of by spamming vitamins on her (remember, potions don't work at full health in Gen II and later.) Since Pikachu's happiness was so high, the girl in Cerulean City gave Red a Bulbasaur, but it ran away and evolved into Ivysaur, and was later captured during SSE. Squirtle was caught via the Mew glitch as Pikachu's Special Attack stat (the equivalent of the Gen I Special stat) was 177 as Pikachu was at level 89. Red then leveled Pikachu up three more times and Mew glitched again to reach ghost Missingno which increased his supply of Rare Candies to 128. He then bred Pikachu (who was holding a Light Ball) with a Ditto and hatched Melee Pichu, who eventually evolved into Brawl Pikachu after being fed a bunch of glitched Rare Candies.

Team Rocket later stole a Snag Machine and captured both Pikachu.

[[WMG: Red appears in the intro to the first game]]
The guy that walks by while Pikachu is rolling on a Pokeball. His shoes don't seem to match though..
* Maybe he doesn't have the running shoes yet. It was still Generation 1 after all in that time.

[[WMG: The World of Trophies is a reward for characters who have proved themselves popular enough.]]

When the heroes in the various worlds prove themselves popular enough, Master Hand, the embodiment of creativity, thus something that inspires the imagination enough would appeal to him, brings them to his world as reward. Justification: In the World of Trophies, most characters are pretty much immortal, they just get turned into trophies that can be revived in an instant by another character. The heroes can do as much good as they want and fight each other to prove themselves to one another, or just for fun, and they can go all out on the villains without a second thought because they can't kill them. Meanwhile, the villains can actually WIN and not pay for it, the heroes just get revived so they won't get bored from missing their rival, the world doesn't end ether, so that's nice. The non-Smasher bosses (other than the ones Tabuu made himself) are simply there to keep the Smashers entertained, and are brought back if killed. Master Hand is stated to wait for them to fight him, which is to test their power.

[[WMG: Tabuu is an out of control creation of Master Hand.]]

See above point. Master Hand creates challenges to keep the Smashers and himself entertained. He got bored with the existing villains so in the first game, he revived Bowser as Giga Bowser for something new. Then, when Giga Bowser got boring, he gave the power to normal Bowser and started on something new. He made Tabuu but made him too powerful, so Tabuu turned on him and decided to conquer Master Hand's domain for himself.

[[WMG: The reason why Snake says he doesn't like Sonic in his codec message...]]

Before Sonic was confirmed, Snake was the only non-Nintendo character in Brawl, thus recieving glory and attention. When Sonic was confirmed, Snake was no longer the only non-Nintendo character, meaning Sonic took some (or more) of the limelight.
** It's actually a voice-actor in-joke. In Japanese, Snake is voiced by Ōtsuka Akio, who is the son of Ōtsuka Chikao, who provides the voice for Sonic's arch-nemesis, Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik.

[[WMG: After the events of Melee, Young link, and therefore the Adult Link from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]] timeline were murdered by [[WebVideo/BenDrowned Ben]]. Being replaced by the Links from the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker The Wind Waker]] timelines.]]

If you take in mind that each game's Link is a different person and that the Smash Bros universe is a CrisisCrossover then it makes sense that Link encounters his younger self and Links from alternate realities created by the Ocarina of Time. But then, why aren't the Ocarina of Time versions of Link no longer present in Brawl? Well, Young Link set out in his quest to find his friend and ends up in Termina, which itself is an alternate universe to Hyrule which has counterparts of evry person of Link's universe. Ben is this universe's Link, manifesting itself as a statue when Link plays the Elegy of Emptiness, which reveals the true nature of his soul. There seems to be an alignment revearsal too, with the Dekus being, while not outwardly friendly, civvilized and lawful and the Happy Mask Man being rather creepy compared to his Hyrule counterpart and often speculated to be evil. So Termina's Link, Ben, is the complete opposite, instead of a warrior of light who brings salvation, Ben is [[EldritchAbomination a horrifying dimensional warper destined to ultimately destroy Termina]].

Being bound to Link's soul the moment he entered Termina, Ben forces Link's unconcious to produce a temporal anomaly (known to us as the Fourth Day glitch) that would free himself from Link's soul and allow him to get Majora out of the way. After torturing Link, Ben removes Young Link from existance, which in effecr also destroy's Adult Link and his universe , for Young Link no longer exists to open the gates of The Temple Of Time and pull out the Master Sword. Master Hand got notice of the death of both Links and the possibility of Ben spreading across the Multiverse if he ever linked Termina to the Smash Bros Universe again, so he cut off Termina from Brawl and replaced the old Link with two Links from different timelines to prevent a time paradox from destroying another Universe. Master Hand also replaced the Zelda from the Destroyed universe but since Ganon had nobody to stop him in Young Link's universe (Which ended up in the Great Flood which gave birth to the Wind Waker timeline) and The Ganon from the future being sealed by the sages into another dimension, saving him from the Destruction of his Universe (to be later released back in Twilight Pribcess)), The Ganon we see in Brawl, is the same Ganon we see in Melee. That's right folks [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu Ganondorf exploited Ben's actions to his advantage]].

[[WMG: Smash Balls are the exploded remains of Tabuu.]]
Tabuu is light blue and glowy, with some other colors thrown in when he uses a technique, like gold-ish. Smash balls are light blue and glowy, and the character who catches it's eyes turn gold-ish until it uses its Final Smash. Therefore, they must be related. LOGIC.
* But if that was so, wouldn't the smash balls have the subspace symbol instead of the smash symbol?
* Not if he's dead. What is the smash symbol anyway? The symbol of the non-subspace world? Maybe they were imprinted with it when he went blooey and bits of him fled through the recreated parts of the world.

[[WMG: {{Capcom}} will make their own Smash game.]]
Think about it. Capcom probably has the most recognized characters besides Nintendo. I Capcom were to make a Smash game featuring characters from the various VideoGame/MegaMan series, StreetFighter, VideoGame/DevilMayCry, ViewtifulJoe, DeadRising, Franchise/ResidentEvil, and all their other series, it would be pure awesome. And it could lead to a [[CapcomVsWhatever Nintendo vs. Capcom]].
* I'll like to see them throw in VisualNovel/AceAttorney, {{Okami}} and VideoGame/MonsterHunter. How ''do'' attorneys fight, anyway?
** [[FingerPokeOfDoom Objection!]]
** Capcom did actually create a sort of crossover game that only included characters from StreetFighter, ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' and RedEarth, name of ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' or Capcom Fighting Jam in other regions. It wasn't well recieved though.

[[WMG: Eventually, Smash will take it to the next step and crossover with a crossover, Super Robot Wars to be exact.]]
Then we get to play a fighting/strategy game where nintendo characters pilot giant mechs to fight each other. Just how awesome would that be?
** Metal Gear vs Gaogaigar? I would've bought that game.
* With Anime/CodeGeass and Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann announced as debuting in an upcoming ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'' game, one can only imagine what would ensue should Kirby inhale Simon or Lelouch.
** He become the spiral nemesis. OH SHI-

[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a weird version of the VideoGame/TeamFortress2 universe.]]
In it, we have two long-standing video game rivals, Mario and Sonic, who are red and blue respectively. Much like the rival brothers Redmond and Blutarch. Red and Blue are also team colors, and various characters fill the roles of their TF 2 equivalents.
* Mario = Redmond Mann
* Sonic = Blutarch Mann
* Captain Falcon = Saxton Hale
* Tabuu = Zepheniah Mann
* Master Hand/Crazy Hand = Announcer
* Snake = Soldier
* Charizard = Pyro
* Ness = Scout
* R.O.B. = Engineer
* Ike = Heavy
* Wolf = Demoman
* Link = Sniper
* Lucario = Medic
* Meta Knight = Spy

[[WMG:The deleted characters from Melee had their trophies smashed.]]
* Except Roy is the only one who doesn't have an in-game trophy. And with the exception of Young Link (who is pretty much reincarnated in Toon Link anyway) and Pichu, they were all clearly intended to return but were scrapped due to time issues, according to unused game files.
** What do you mean, had their trophies smashed? As in they basically committed "suicide?" (Well, as well as a trophy can?) Please, if you mention Roy, neer suggest that again. I hope I'm wrong and misunderstanding you.

[[WMG:Master Hand is the embodiement of a child's imagination, Tabuu embodies an external force that wants to destroy it.]]
Tabuu can be seen as a parent, a teacher, older sibling, etc. who seeks to stop the child's activities because he/she finds them immature and pointless. Tabuu controling Master Hand is the attempt at forcing him to destroy his work. The characters in the game are the embodiement of the child's fantasies, which give him the strength to fight back and keep following his dreams.

[[WMG:Unfortunatley, there won't be another Super Smash Brothers game.]]
* Some of the marketing campaign poster's and merchandise had the words "the brawl to end them all". I do hope this doesn't happen, though.
** {{Jossed}}, as of E3 2011. The head honcho himself announced that there would be another Smash Bros. game for both the 3DS and the Wii (or was it the Wii U?).

[[WMG:The player characters are all [[VideoGame/CustomRobo Robos]].]]
* Like Robos, the charactes are mere inchs tall and controlled by unseen forces.

[[WMG:The next Smash bros. game will be called "Super Smash Brothers Free-for-All".]]
Considering the past names were "melee" and "brawl" and there aren't many more synonyms left.
* Rumble? Skirmish? Smackdown? Fray? Bout? Clash? Fracas? Quarrel? Ruckus? Scuffle? Tussle? ..."Disagreement"?
** How about Smash Bros. Riot? When I first got Brawl I liked the idea.
* Super Smash Brothers Swoon[[note]] Sorry We're Out of Names[[/note]]
** Heheh. For a second, [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar I thought]]…
** Smackdown and Rumble seem like good names, but chances are, the next smash brothers will probably just be called "Super Smash Bros 4"...[[BrokenBase otherwise, the fans will complain that they're running out of ideas.]]
* Super Smash Bros. Frenzy, maybe?
* I'm hoping for something like "Dairantou Smash Bros GX" for the Japanese name. "DX" and "X" are already used, and they used "GX" for FZERO once, so why not for the next Smash too? Heck, they can even bring it to Smash 4 for US! "Super Smash Bros GX"!
* Alternately, they'll take a cue from VideoGame/Left4Dead and name the game "Super Smash Bros. Free 4 All" instead of using the word "for." The story mode may also involve the characters, good and bad, organizing a revolution against an oppressive villain, created especially for the game.
* I think Smash Bros. Extreme would be cool.
* How about Super Smash Bros. Rampage?

[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer will have a deeper voice in the next game, and Link will be based off the newest incarnation.]]
The trophies are updated every game. Pokémon Trainer is based off Red in his Kanto journey, where he was eleven. He's fourteen in [=HGSS=], which was released after Brawl. That's a sizable time span for him to have at least entered puberty.
* Or it will be a different Pokémon Trainer...maybe [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold/Ethan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Brendan]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Lucas]], or [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilbert]]?
* Or Red will return, and be mute like he's supposed to be.
** Red isn't mute, he's just a SilentProtagonist.

[[WMG: If Snake is in Super Smash Bros 4, he will [[ActorAllusion mistake]] [[EternalDarkness Alex]] for Samus, then offer the idea/be suggested to that Samus is her descendant.]]
Then the conversation will get into ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' style insanity to mirror insanity effects (Bonus points for Psycho Mantis/The Sorrow appearing).
-> '''Campbell[=/=]Paul''': I thought I told you to turn the game console off!
-> '''Snake''': ''This isn't... really...'' '''''happening!'''''
* The character of Colonel Campbell has been retired. Jossed.

[[WMG: Smash 4 will be a crossover with a crossover.]]
The question is...which one?
* My money's on KingdomHearts.

[[WMG: Smash 4 drop all third party characters.]]
Because Sakurai was weary on adding them, did not want to go farther than Snake and said three tops. Smash will be back to just Nintendo but another possible game may become a crossover.
* This would be for Nintendo's benefit since Brawl gave free advertisements to Nintendo's competitions as well as some low quality third party titles. With them out of the way their can be more future previews to stuff Nintendo will make profit on, such as when Melee had ProductionForeshadowing for Cubivore, Animal Crossing and the Game Boy Advance Fire Emblem.
** Jossed. MegaMan is was revealed to be playable. Further Jossed with Sonic's return potentially meaning Snake could return as well.

[[WMG: The Pokemon Trainer wasn't catching Ivysaur and Charizard for the first time.]]
They were already his Pokemon to begin with. They had been stolen and released (or escaped) from PT, and he needs to get them back. Why he has pictures of Ivysaur and Charizard is to show other people what they look like. Like "I'm searching for my lost Ivysaur and Charizard! They look like this! -shows picture-" It's why he's in the middle of nowhere by himself when Lucas runs into him, he's still searching for his Pokemon.
* To elaborate further, PT started with Charmander, it's why Charizard is the only fully-evolved Pokemon. He then traded with friends/whoever to get a Bulbasaur and a Squirtle. He went and trained Bulbasaur to an Ivysaur, and then the SSE trouble started and Ivysaur and Charizard were stolen away before Ivysaur could evolve further.
** And it's why all he has is a measly Squirtle to start with. And then he teamed up with Lucas, and then getting his own Pokemon back would be piece of cake!
* So why do Charizard and Ivysaur fight PT? Obviously they are effected by the negative energy of Subspace and are acting irrationally (or if they escaped don't want to be with PT and are trying to chase him away). That, or Subspace made them like [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Shadow Pokemon]] where they need to be "stolen/recaptured" again to begin trusting their trainer again.
** ...this IS WildMassGuessing, and I get bugged by how people are saying PT is trying to ''catch'' Ivysaur and Charizard. But yeah, it's what I think. -shrugs-
* If my dreams come true, several of my video game characters will be in the next Super Smash Bros. Game. I've already been thinking of a good plot for the next SSB game's adventure mode.
* That could explain why he only has 3 Pokemon instead of a full team. The other 3 were lost and never found.

[[WMG: [=SSB4=]'s roster will be the biggest yet]]
* This is actually the combination of three separate ideas I had:
--> 1. The Brawl roster will be reused for the next game.[[note]]No characters subtracted, of course.[[/note]]
--> 2. The Melee exclusive fighters will return.[[note]] This I based off of how the Mario Kart series drops racers for one game and brings them back the next; Koopa Troopa, Baby Mario and Baby Luigi, and Birdo are examples of this. ...[[CaptainObvious also, they were almost put into Brawl, then scrapped]]...[[/note]]
--> 3. Highly demanded fighters will be used.[[note]] The biggest example of this I can find is that Keiji Inafune said [[http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/22/no-mega-man-in-brawl-it-seems/ he wasn't asked permission to use Mega Man for Brawl]].[[/note]] [[spoiler: This is partily confirmed due to '''Mega Man being confirmed'''.]]
** And now we have four: There is talk from the creators about the possibility of downloadable content.

[[WMG: The game is a PostModern metaphor.]]
In the beginning of the first game, we see a hand, the Master Hand making the action figures fighting against each other and the final boss is the same Master Hand. Master Hand is the hand of the owner of the figures and the figures must [[RageAgainstTheAuthor defeat him]].

[[WMG: [[BanjoKazooie Banjo]], [[PerfectDark Jonna Dark]], [[VideoGame/ConkersBadFurDay Conker]], and [[JetForceGemini Vela & Juno]] were meant to be characters in Melee.]]
But, due to {{Rare}} being bought out by {{Microsoft}} this idea was rejected. Evidence, is with the motion sensor bomb in Melee.
* The motion sensor bomb was in the original to but they were not. Lupus would be the only character from that last game getting in anyway.

[[WMG: Otacon's piloting the helicopter for Snake's Final Smash.]]
He's the only helicopter pilot on Snake's Codec roster. The whole Final Smash seems to be a shout-out to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', so why not have his partner in the driver's seat? This does make his conspicuous absence from the trophy ranks even more conspicuous, but that's a rant for another time.

[[WMG:In [=SSB4=], characters will...]]
* Be offered as DownloadableContent
* Have some exclusivity between WiiU and [[Nintendo3DS 3DS]]
* And be transferable between the two consoles.
* Stages and items (like Assist Trophies) are more likely. Sakurai of all people would know that making things as important as characters exclusive in some manner would seriously stagger the gameplay.
* The credits minigame will be on the controller as opposed to the big screen.

[[WMG: Jiro from the new game TheRollingWestern will be playable in [=SSB4=].]]

VideoGame/SuperSmashBros is, at its most basic level, an elaborate advertisement for Nintendo games. Any character's inclusion (in this case Jiro) will generate interest in that character's game(s). It's in Nintendo's best interest to advertise this new IP as much as possible.

[[WMG:The lost cutscene chronicling the Subspace Army stealing the Halberd was supposed to introduce Mr. Game & Watch.]]
This is why Mr. G&W doesn't have a subtitle appear at any point during the Subspace Emissary.
* Then why do Meta Knight and Dedede have ones?

[[WMG: Super Smash Bros 4 will include character banter before and after matches.]]
Why? Why not! Ok, a lot of the characters are HeroicMime, PokemonSpeak or such, but it would be cool.
** It would be interesting to see how characters from different worlds interact, but I don't know if they would actually do it.

[[WMG: No Melee exclusive character actually left.]]
Hear me out, really. Think about it:
* Little Link(Young Link) got an animation upgrade.
* Mewtwo is powerful enough to have made an illution and we just think he's Lucario.
** Or we were playing as a Ditto the whole time.
** Project M has now hacked Mewtwo into Brawl, along with Roy, so neither of them are truly gone.
* Pichu, of course, evolved.
* Dr. Mario... is Mario. Duh.
* And last but not least, Roy ''is'' Ike. Yah, yah, I'm crazy. But I've always had a theory tha Roy was Marth's 'adopted' brother at least, and Ike would be Marth's twin... despite the canon not allowing that. But still. Same general move-set, same hair minus colour.... maybe it's that Roy knew he'd be kicked out so he took a make-over and got a new name. Or maybe this is one troper's failure to except her favorite character has been tossed aside like a broken toy.
** Project M has now hacked Roy into Brawl, along with Mewtwo, so neither of them are truly gone.

[[WMG: Pit will return with some of the new weapons introduced in [[KidIcarusUprising Uprising]].]]
* Something to replace angel ring most likely. Possibly a new final smash and or a replacement to the beam sword.

[[WMG: If Lucas returns, there will be a ShoutOut to the ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'' FanTranslation in the English version.]]

[[WMG: The Master Hand is the Ego, the Crazy Hand is the Id, and Tabuu is the Super-ego.]]

[[WMG: About half of the '' Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' theme music is actually about Sonic.]]

Imagine this: A world, [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters loaded with Nintendo characters]], minor and major (minor ones becoming somewhat major due to the popularity of the game itself), dueling among themselves in a bid to see who's the best. Suddenly, disaster strikes, and most of this world is thrust into a darker dimension. The BigBad defeats everyone in [[CurbStompBattle one]] [[TotalPartyKill blow]]. Then they get revived for Round 2, thanks to the work done by an unlikely ally]], and he tries his ridiculous attack again. A blue blur shatters the BigBad's tools, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome preventing]] [[TookALevelInBadass the attack]], and reveals himself to be Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. A foreigner to the world of Nintendo, and effectively becoming a BigDamnHero with these actions, naturally, he would fit with the lyrics of the theme. It makes a lot of sense, [[FridgeLogic if you think about it]]. Almost (from a loyal Sonic fan's point of view) [[FridgeBrilliance brilliant]]!

[[WMG: In the next Smash Bros, characters will be able to fight in water.]]
Melee had water, but it was purely cosmetic and functioned exactly like air.
Brawl had water, and it functioned like water, but all you could do was jump out, swim left and right a little or wait about 10 seconds and drown.
4 will have water, and it will be awesome rather than uneccesary. Characters could do roughly the same things in the water that they could do on land, bar a couple of changes to the standard attacks.
You may say this idea is stupid, but why else would they put such a useless mechanic in Brawl if they weren't planning on expanding- Oh darn, tripping.

[[WMG: Every game features a different Link.]]
Each game gives Link different costumes, slightly different weapons and attacks, and various other quirks.
* Smash 64: This is the shakiest part of the theory, given his entrance and since OoT was the only 3d game out when 64 was released, but if Pit, Marth, and Roy can do it, so can Link. However, his costumes feature blue, red, and white/lavender tunics, possibly representing the Blue and Red Mails, along with the Blue ring from the original. A Link to the Past gave Link much the same equipment (even the hookshot!) with a similar look, but NO BOW.
* Melee: Adult Link is undeniably OoT Link this time, and the boomerang is a carry-over from Smash 64. However, something stands out about Young Link that keeps him from being OoT's child Link: he has the bow, which he cannot use in OoT. However, in Majora's Mask he gets not just the bow, but the Fire Arrows!
* Brawl: Following the split timeline introduced in Melee, the two Links come from Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
* SSB4: The next game will probably feature the young Link from Spirit Tracks and the adult Link from Skyward Sword.

[[WMG: [[WorfHadTheFlu Rayquaza was weakened by the Subspace Army before encountering Fox and Diddy Kong]].]]
Given Rayquaza's status as the Sky High Pokemon and its territorial nature, it only makes sense that it would have tried attacking the Halberd, seeing it as a threat. The Halberd managed to overwhelm Rayquaza, forcing it into a lake to recover. That would explain why it was so far from home, ''and'' why it managed to be defeated by two characters that should be far less powerful than it.

[[WMG: Super Smash Bros. takes place in a universe very similar to the show ReBoot.]]
The characters live together in peace until the User turns the game on and forces them to fight to the death. The character chosen by the user is generally safer than the others though. This is why the characters controlled by the computer all like to gang up on the human player.

[[WMG: Snake has the infinite ammo bandanna in Brawl.]]
That would explain why he never runs out of grenades and such.

[[WMG: The Hands actually belong to NiGHTS.]]
The game is actually a dream that the Smashers are having, with NiGHTS controlling everything. He/she never actually means to harm the Smashers, only wishing to have fun, hence why they only turn into trophies when KO'd.
* Think about it. The Hands are two disembodied hands with white gloves. NiGHTS wears similar gloves, and doesn't appear to have wrists, his/her hands instead floating inches from his/her sleeves.
* To further support this theory, who shows up right at the very end to save everyone? None other than fellow Sega character, Sonic. NiGHTS must've reached out to him in a last-ditch effort to save everyone.

[[WMG: Red actually has six Pokemon with him.]]
He just doesn't use them in battle either because of regulations, or he simply chooses not to.

[[WMG: In a few years...]]
VideoGame/SuperSmashBros will become an actual UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny (or whatever it is). Every cartoon character and video game character in exisistance will be playable and stages based off of everything. (See! [[TheFairlyOddparents Timmy Turner]] kicking [[FinalFantasy Cloud Strife's]] bum in SilentHill! See! [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] KO's JohnnyBravo and JohnnyTest in [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack Stormalong Harbor]]! See! [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]] and Franchise/WinnieThePooh take on [[PiratesOfTheCaribbean Jack Sparrow]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]! See! [[TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Gumball and Darwin]] face Master Hand!) That would be a fitting finale for SSB, as well as being totally awesome! (Remember, this is WildMassGuessing)
** [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Alucard]] soul stealing [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Melvin]] in [[TheCatReturns The Cat Kingdom]]! [[StreetFighter Ryu]] and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames The King]] double teaming [[WackyRaces The Red Max]] in [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts]]! BugsyMalone facing off with IndianaJones on [[TreasurePlanet the RLS Legacy]]! TheAristocats sending PhoenixWright all the way to Timbuktu!

[[WMG: Tabuu is a ghost from VideoGame/{{Geist}}.]]
Look at them and know this theory only makes more sense if you know the two. The slight difference in Tabuu's appearance and his different powers can be explained by him being a natural ghost, not one created by technology and subspace is the same place the natural ghosts, demons and other monsters came from in Geist. The reason Tabuu could not directly influence the outside world is because no one was dumb enough to invoke him but he still managed to somehow catch Master Hand and indirectly draw the world into subspace anyway. This also means John Raimi might be in a new Smash Bros, because Geist is a Nintendo game.

[[WMG: There are Melee Pikachu belongs to Red now]]
That's why it never appears. This goes along with the "Brawl!Pikachu is Melee's Pichu" theory.

[[WMG: Real time damage will appear in the newest game.]]
The series has a habit of taking things left out of previous games and adding them into later installments.

[[WMG: The Beam Sword will not be in a future smash bros game]]
It had a nice run, but it will be replaced by weapons from the 3DS Kid Icarus game. A club, a cannon and two orbiters. Alternatively, it will be replaced by a beam sword that has actually shown up in a Nintendo game(take your pick).
* Maybe the Beam Claws from Uprising?

[[WMG: More character-specific victory quotes]]
In Brawl Fox, Falco and Wolf all had victory quotes they would only say to the other two. It doesn't make sense to not give other characters quotes like these also, even if it's just giving Mario a "So long big-a Bowser!" Though I'd like to see Luigi really rub a victory in Mario's face.

Furthermore, there could be more stages and characters who can Smash Taunt.

[[WMG: If Super Smash Bros Memories has all classic characters, even Pac-Man and Dig Dug...]]
* 9-volt of Warioware will somehow make a appearance. Let's check the major fact of this game. There are classic characters everywhere. 9-volt makes classic Nintendo microgames. It seems like a easy idea. He will either take 1 of the following roles.
** He will be a fighter, obviously. If he is unlocked from the get-go or unlock-able is up to you.
** He is either a boss or the final boss, and he has a move set of everything from classic Nintendo Accessories to the Wii-mote and nunchuck combo!
** He is the head honcho of the game, and will be allured to in the ending to classic mode. [[spoiler: When the credits role, the screen shall zoom out to show 9-volt on the computer working on his latest project, a all star classic fighter game, made solely on classic video game characters. The screen will end with 9-volt booting up whatever game the character you had finish on was.]]

[[WMG: Sonic reached Subspace [[spoiler:by getting sucked in by the black hole in [[Sonic Colors]]]]
[[spoiler: It could have been that Sonic never really (almost) did outrun the black hole (and that the black hole operated by the same principle as the Subspace Bomb) but in fact he REALLY did got sucked in by it and ended in the Brawl dimension, and he got later rescued by the Wisps to return to Planet Wisp for the end of the game]]

[[WMG: The reason Mr. Game & Watch has no concept of morality is because of the "Egg" game.]]
In that game, you're a fox trying to eat the eggs from hens, which could be considered an evil action. Since Mr. Game & Watch is a composite of all the playable characters of Game & Watch games, that character was factored into him and cancelled out the good influences of the other characters, making him have no morality.

[[WMG: The entire Smash Bros. Series is a game played using miniature figures.]]
The models were all made with no licensing or anything by two bored teenagers obsessed with video games. They were very low in detail at the start, but were painted with god-like perfection. They were occasionally painted with different outfits for fun, thus resulting in the alternate costumes that we see in every installment. The two teenagers had done a lot of work on them, but sometimes would fail resulting in the Fighting Polygon Team, every single one left unpainted. Nowadays they have a lot more skill, but sometimes didn't paint others. The reason for this is because the main painter had ended up with a problem with his hand by painting too much, now being known as Crazy Hand. This is also why, Tabuu, their latest creation, also lacks any paint on him. They managed to get a new painter in time for the next installment.

[[WMG: Pit will have Smash Taunts.]]
Just like Fox, Falco, Wolf, and Snake could talk to their support team on their stages, Pit will have a secret taunt to talk to characters from ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''. Mostly Palutena, but Viridi, Medusa, and Hades could also work well.

[[WMG: Solid Snake is a permanent Super Smash Bros Character.]]
With the announcement of Plastation All-Stars Battle Royale, everyone assumed that Solid Snake, being one of the reasons you bought a PS1, would be there. Well, now the entire cast for the game is up:

Big Daddy (Bioshock)\\
Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Evil Cole [=MacGrath=] ([=InFamous=])\\
Colonel Radec (Killzone)\\
Dante (DMC: Devil May Cry)\\
Fat Princess (Fat Princess)\\
Heihachi Mishima (Tekken)\\
Jak and Daxter (À la recherche du temps perdu by Marcel Proust. Also, Jak and Daxter)\\
Kratos (God of War)\\
Nariko (Heavenly Sword)\\
Nathan Drake (Uncharted)\\
[=PaRappa=] the Rapper ([=PaRappa=] the Rapper)\\
Raiden (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)\\
Ratchet and Clank (Ratchet and Clank)\\
Sackboy (Little Big Planet)\\
Sir Daniel Fortesque ([=MediEvil=])\\
Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper)\\
Spike (Ape Escape)\\
Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)\\
Toro Inoue (Sony Japan's mascot. Originally featured in Doko Demo Issyo)

Notice that Raiden for Metal Gear Rising is on there, but not Solid Snake. Why is this? Well, it's simple really. Solid Snake is a permanent member of Super Smash Bros. The creators of Metal Gear Solid probably doesn't want to put Snake in what they see as a Rip-off, and Nintendo probably went into negotiations with Konami so that Solid Snake can only be in their fighting game, not anyone elses. So while there is representation for Sony's game from Metal Gear, Solid Snake will always reside within Super Smash Bros. No ifs, ands or buts.
** WordOfGod is that Snake wasn't added to ''Playstation All Stars'' because almost all the third party characters were included in that game to promote then-upcoming titles, so Raiden was used to represent ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Revengeance]]''. More to the point, Kojima also didn't want to include both Raiden and Snake because he knew people would make them fight each other to see who's better, which is something Kojima has generally tried to avoid outside of parodies that poke fun at the idea.

[[WMG: Tabuu is the personification of the game's save file/memory.]]
And Sub-space is actually the programming which is used to save data. Tabuu was sick of dealing with the player constantly altering his realm, so he planned on turning everyone into trophies--that way, they'll stop playing the game and thus his realm can't be altered.

[[WMG: Tabuu is the [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Walpurgis_Night Walpurgis Night]] of the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse.]]
In the ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' universe, it’s established that Kyuubey’s race the Incubators travel to all sorts of worlds to search for contractees to become Magical Girls to fight {{Eldritch Abomination}}s called Witches. However, once these contractees descend into complete despair or use up all of their soul gem’s magic, they transform into Witches themselves, and then the Incubators collect the energy released from these transformations to counteract the heat death of the universe. What’s to say the Incubators hadn’t traveled to the Super Smash Brothers Brawl universe to find contractees to go through this unfortunate and deceitful process? In the Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trophyverse, Tabuu is an immensely powerful entity because he is an amalgamation of these fallen Magical Girls (and possibly Boys, since WordOfGod confirms Tabuu as a male entity) like the Witch Walpurgis Night of the Madoka Magica universe. Also like Walpurgis Night, Tabuu is so powerful that more often than not it takes several warriors to defeat him unless one particular warrior is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSeyMuiJHZc exceptionally gifted or well trained in combat]]. Tabuu's status as the [[SpearCounterpart male]] Walpurgis Night of the SSBB Trophyverse also accounts for his diverse and deadly attacks in battle. Additionally, the large diversity of enemies present even outside of the Subspace happens to be Tabuu’s familiars, and the Subspace itself is Tabuu’s [[EldritchLocation Warlock barrier]].

But why is Master Hand, and by extension, Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario, working for Tabuu? Tabuu warlock-kissed Master Hand, and then the brainwashed Master Hand controlled these three Nintendo villains to perform Tabuu’s dirty work. King Dedede turns out to be the Homura Akemi analogue of the SSBB universe, since he alone already knows about Tabuu’s dangerous whereabouts and powers long before any other character, and has also developed some techniques (the badges) to counteract the Warlock. Luckily for our video game heroes, no one has to contract with Kyuubey to become Puella/Puera magi in order to defeat Tabuu, since all the video game characters already come with their awesome, enemy-defeating abilities. If Homura Akemi can defeat Witches and familiars using mundane, non-magical weapons such as golf clubs and military-grade artillery, who’s to say Ness can’t use his baseball bat or Fox can’t use his laser gun to help defeat the Warlock Tabuu?

[[WMG: Jigglypuff is a boy]]
It's only been heavily ''implied'' to be a girl.

[[WMG: Pokemon Trainer won't be replaced, but he will be aged up]]
Probably to his [[VideoGame/PokemonHeartGoldAndSoulSilver HGSS]] role of age 14. He'll look older, have a deeper voice, be taller..

[[WMG: Red will be named next game]]
Going by the "they're toys being played by kids" logic, the children playing with only new Red from [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FR/LG]] so they didn't know his canon name. He's popped up twice since Brawl, named twice.

[[WMG: The 4th game will not be a FakeCrossover.]]
* In other words, the fighters in Super Smash Brothers For Wii U / 3DS are the real characters from the canon games, legitimately invited to take part in Smash Brothers. There's a scene at the beginning of the Villager's introduction trailer in which he receives a letter stamped with the Smash Brothers emblem, and runs off excitedly by the next cut. This is proof enough that, at the very least, the fighters aren't just magical trophies that come to life when you touch the base.
** Snake's introduction in Brawl had him being invited to join (via the Colonel), but the game itsaelf was still a FakeCrossover. It seems more likely that the Villager's intrpoduction was as much a part of the in-universe game as the kerfuffles themselves.

[[WMG: The 4th game will have Team-Final Smashes]]
In Brawl, the cool big thing (other than Snake and Sonic) was finishing moves finally. How do they go one step beyond? By giving each combo of characters some kind of team-up Final Smash. It could be a pair of smaller Smash Spheres connected by a chain, and whatever two characters get them team up to do their finisher. Besides, the game is already emphasizing a little cooperation by being on both 3DS and Wii U, so including this could lead to a title like ''Super Smash Bros Tag Team'' or something.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/SuperMarioLand Tatanga]] will be the BigBad of the 4th game.]]

[[WMG: Smash Bros. 4 is why Nintendo didn't have an E3 conference.]]
Can you imagine how LOUD the roar would be when Mega Man's inclusion was announced? They'd have gone deaf, no wonder they stuck to Nintendo Direct.
** But most people aren't allowed at E3 anymore, right?

[[WMG: The newest games will canonicalize the "It's an interdimensional tournament" theory]]
For years fans (such as WebSite/DKVine) liked to write the game as Master Hand taking characters from their home universes and making them fight for varying reasons. In the original trailer Villager is in his town and gets a letter.

[[WMG: Villager will have an adult voice]]
The source games imply the hero is an adult but the series ArtisticAge makes them look prepubescent. Alternatively he'll have a mid-teens voice, not quite too deep but not quite young.

[[WMG: Luigi's reveal will be the best one.]]
At the time of this edit, it is currently 2013, which Nintendo has dubbed "TheYearOfLuigi". If they decide to reveal Luigi as part of the starting roster for the fourth game this year (assuming that the man in green himself is being included in the first place), he will get a reveal trailer that is so awesome, epic, and amazing that it makes Mega Man's reveal trailer look boring in comparison.

[[WMG: The Subspace Emmisary is [[spoiler:actually a prequel to the Kirby series.]]]]
[[spoiler:In the beginning, the series takes place in Dream Land, which is not as bright as it is in Kirby. Here, every Nintendo character come to this world for fights. But, there are two characters who are indigenous to this world, not hailing from another: Kirby, who is a baby and trains under his mentor [[TheObiWan Mario]], and King Dedede, a penguin who tries to be an EvilOverlord, but isn't a very effective one. Meta Knight, a mysterious swordsman with ambitions of conquest, was sent by Tabuu to conquer the universe for him, but that failed when [[TheStarscream Meta decided to do it for himself and not his master]]. So Tabuu sets the game in motion to [[EvilVsEvil stop Meta before he can put his own plans into action]]. Dedede is initially led by Tabuu because he wishes to get rid of Meta Knight and be a better bad guy than him, but [[CharacterDevelopment decides to be a better person to save the universe upon learning Tabuu's true plans]].]]

[[spoiler:When Tabuu [[OneHitKO Off-Waves]] everyone, canonically, no-one gets out other than [[FiveManBand Ness, Kirby, Dedede, Bowser and Luigi]] ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic]]). Kirby is then [[HopeBringer the hope of the universe]] as he [[TakeUpMySword becomes "the new Mario"]], and leads his group through the Great Maze to defeat Tabuu and save the day. Afterwards, Ness lives out the rest of his life in his world, Sonic leaves in search of new adventures, Luigi and Bowser retire into seclusion (Bowser does this because with Peach gone, things aren't as fun) and Dedede becomes "the new Bowser" of Dream Land (only even less threatening) since Kirby's the new hero. However, as he dies, Tabuu uses the last of his Shadow Bugs to create a blue Kirby clone, who becomes the new Meta Knight. As a result of Subspace's end, Dream Land eventually becomes a brighter and jollier place.]]

[[WMG: The dark secret behind the chimney in the Onett stage.]]
Why are puffs of smoke periodically coming from the chimney? It's clearly summer, so there shouldn't be a fire burning, and if there was a fire, it would be one long pillar of smoke, not a series of irregular puffs. There is therefore only one possible explanation: meth lab. Yep, the Minch family is breaking very poorly.

[[WMG: Alternate Outfits]]
In Brawl, Wario had not only his WarioWare [[http://www.cubed3.com/media/2007/December/jb/waoverall1.jpg biker outfit]], but also his [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111229211606/nintendo/en/images/7/7d/Wariobrawl.jpg classic overalls]] as an "alternate outfit" selectable through the same way one selects alternate colors. In Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS, they could give characters alternate costumes that, while not altering gameplay, would change the characters' appearances and possibly even sound effects and voices. A few examples would be...

#Mario - [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/7/71/Dr._Mario_SSBM.jpg Dr. Mario]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/bb/MarioN1.jpg Striker Mario]]
#Yoshi - [[http://photic.slimemansion.com/windcrystal/image/boshi.jpg Boshi]]
#Bowser - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0c/Drybowserms.png Dry Bowser]], [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mehkl05wo71r0t8auo1_500.gif Bowletta]]
#Peach - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0e/DaisyMP8Official.png Daisy]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/fc/Peach_NurseOutfit.jpg Nurse Toadstool]], [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/47/Princess_Rosalina_Super_Mario_Galaxy.png Rosalina]]
#Pikachu - [[http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/79/Notchie-art.png Spiky-eared Pichu]], [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120618030859/sonicpokemon/images/3/34/Raichu.png Raichu]], [[http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-08/art/prsoa-pachirisu.jpg Pachirisu]]
#Samus - [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130406130409/metroid/images/7/7d/Mprime2_DarkSamus.jpg Metroid Prime (Dark Samus)]]
#Mega Man - [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100616040814/megaman/images/4/42/MegamanMHX.jpg X]], [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100722183558/megaman/images/3/38/Bass2MM10.png Bass]], [[http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/a/a8/Protoman10.png Protoman]]
#Olimar - [[http://www.pikminfanon.com/images/b/b7/Louie.jpg Louie]], [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130607182619/pikmin/images/f/ff/Alph.png Alph]]
#Luigi - [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7e/Mr_L_Render.png Mr. L]]
#Fox - [[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123924/2982528-foxmc.jpg StarFoxAssault Fox]]
#Link - [[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7wchkTis1qgtyxi.jpg CDI Link]]

[[WMG:The fourth game's Adventure Mode will rely more on dialogue than Brawl's.]]
Sakurai [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=208299 recently said]] he's dropping cutscenes from the new Adventure Mode. Note that in [[http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/ssbb/3/1 this edition of Iwata Asks]], Sakurai talked about how important the story of a video game has become in recent years. This indicates that the new Adventure Mode will have to use new means of conveying the story. Since ''Brawl'' was on one end of the SlidingScaleOfVisualsVersusDialogue, why not take the fourth game to the opposite end?

[[WMG:Bowser's new appearance in the fourth installment means he'll be using more of the moves he's used in the spin-off ''Mario'' titles.]]
Particularly, moves from ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]]'' will probably be utilized, to take advantage of his new characteristics.

[[WMG: the combat system will be customizable in the new game]]
The reason that Mega Man had so many moves in the trailer was because the game will allow you to choose your four basic moves (At least) from a selection of unlockable tricks. For instance, Pikachu will be able to replace Skull Bash with a true Quick Attack and demonstrate other moves like Brick Break, Grass Knot and Iron Tail. Perhaps you can even change Final Smashes, with Pikachu changing Volt Tackle for Surf.

[[WMG: One of Villagers costumes be of the [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100817230632/animalcrossing/images/b/bc/Boy_AAA.jpg original costumes]]]]
He'll keep his shirt but he'll wear a matching hat.

[[WMG: Pokémon Trainer's Squirtle and Ivysaur will have fully evolved between games.]]
With their new mega forms, he can have three different final smashes!

[[WMG: Mr. Game & Watch will either receive a DistaffCounterpart or be revealed as a Mrs. at some point in the future.]]
Just look at the track record of the non-clone characters that were introduced in ''Melee''. Peach is a woman. Zelda is a woman, and Sheik is no different. One of the Ice Climbers is female. Bowser [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga got a female form only two years later]]. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Marth's next FE appearance turned out to be a woman]]. [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened Mewtwo's next movie appearance turned out to be a woman]]. Who's left?
* Falco? Ganondorf?

[[WMG: All three games have an overarching storyline.]]
* The first game was relatively simple; we only see the first stages of the story, but we do see some signs. Master Hand, behind the scenes, was experimenting with a miniature world.
** The toys in this game are prototypes of the trophy fighters we see later, and they were brought to life by the Shadow Bugs, which we know are a primordial substance extracted from the Game & Watch race. (That's also why Mr. Game & Watch isn't in ''64''; he was too busy being experimented on.)
** Later on, we see the Fighting Polygon Team; failed prototypes that were created before the toys, being of a very crude shape and keeping the color of the shadow bugs that made them. It's also possible that they became self-replicating, the shadow bugs reading off of each other and endlessly generating new polygons.
** The Metal Mario we see in this game is a more advanced one; possibly a Polygon Mario that absorbed more of the shadow bugs and took a more solid, more powerful form.
** Even the stages reek of deterioration; Battlefield appears to be off the side of a cliff, fading into purple. Coincidence? Then, the metal cave; that wouldn't happen naturally. The Metal Mario battle takes place in an environment that had absorbed the shadows and hardened as much as Metal Mario himself. Finally, Final Destination, which is floating right in the middle of Subspace; hell, we even ''see'' the clouds of shadow bugs drifting down in the middle of the battle!
* In ''Melee'', the experiments have succeeded. The trophy fighters have been finalized and put to the test. As the experimentation is finished, the Game & Watch race is allowed to join the others in the fray, and all of the ones used to create the trophies are fought at once at the end of All-Star mode.
** At the same time, however, the polygons have evolved into a more humanoid organized form; the wireframes. Even Metal Mario has reproduced into the other 25 metal characters.
** Battlefield has collapsed into Subspace like Final Destination. The stone relics that made up the original stage have crystallized and mutated into the metal, energy-filled form we're familiar with.
** Along with the evolution of the Polygons and the Metals, the first Shadow Clones have begun to take form; the Bowser at the end of Adventure Mode, which is large and unstable, even mutating into the horrible Giga Bowser upon being broken.
* ''Brawl'' sees the culmination of everything.
** Final Destination is still lost, but Battlefield's destruction has settled; it appears to be a distant memory, the cliff having been blown away and the entire area grown over. The unchanged form in ''Wii U/3DS'' supports this; it's gone through all of the changes it had to face.
** The wireframes have evolved further into the Alloys, gaining the metallic shells of their counterparts in the metals along with boosted abilities.
** A further evolved wireframe is Tabuu, who had become giant and gained the powers of the shadows. This is what allowed him to take action and set the Subspace Emissary storyline into effect.

[[WMG: Battlefield and Final Destination are the same location]]
* I've always thought this since I first played Melee, if one looks, the two stages are very similar. My theory is that the Battlefield platforms can merge into the floor, expanding it into Final Destination. I always imagined this transition between the two stages during Classic and Adventure mode.

[[WMG:An updated version of Dragon King will be a playable character]]
This could serve as a throwback tribute to what SSB once was, a.k.a. MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness. One of each for the Polygons, Wireframes, and alloys could also be playable characters in their own SSB roster.
* Bless our hearts, we keep hoping...

[[WMG:The Super Leaf from the ''Mario'' series will be an item in some way in the fourth game]]

It's been in [[VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand two]] [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros2 platformers]] for the [=3DS=], the system's Kart game, the tail appeared in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', and it has been ''[=3D=] World''. Nintendo seems to like giving this powerup comebacks lately. Maybe an equippable badge that slows falling speed, like the "Flying" version of Pokemon Stadium 2?

[[WMG: Little Mac will replace Meta Knight as the highest tier.]]

* Think about it, in the trailer if he performs enough punches to fill up his meter, he could KO anyone. Unless he doesn't manage to knock Bowser offscreen when the latter's at 0%, he could be overpowered.

[[WMG: The Boxing Ring stage is ''not'' the Punch-Out!! stage.]]

* The one we saw at the beginning is the new Final Destination. The Punch-out!! stage was shown to have walk-off ledges. The Initial Boxing Ring appears to have traditional Ring-Out gaps.

[[WMG: Little Mac will have a secret taunt...]]
In which he consults Doc about the characters he's currently fighting. Doc will then outline the fighter's capabilities, background, and a bit of snarky commentary. Because, really, they had to have given him a speaking role for some reason besides to give a few stock lines. This is doubly likely if Snake doesn't get back in for whatever reason.

[[AC: New Music]]
As a quick and easy way for form WMG, please put your song guesses in this format:
* Game Series
** '''Song Name/Occurence''' and what game it's from. Provide a hot link if possible to the original song.
*** Original or as a remix.
*** Optional: What stage it could play on.
Commence!
* ''SuperMarioBros'', ''YoshisIsland'', ''DonkeyKong'', ''WarioLand'', ''WarioWare'' and ''PaperMario''
* ''{{Pokemon}}''
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8jHrQfhSkA Champion Cynthia Battle]]''' from Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Black, White, Black 2, and White 2 Versions.
*** Any version will do.
** A variation of the Rival Champion theme from Red, Blue, and Yellow. Much like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAKRzjmXLYA this one]].
* ''TheLegendOfZelda''
** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXFUsP_-jQ Mid-Boss Battle]]''' from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker''.
*** Either or.
*** Stage: Spirit Train (3DS)
* ''KidIcarus''
** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24m2oeWteFw Dark Pit's Theme]]''' from ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''.
* ''{{Kirby}}''
** A revised [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9XPPm1-VAo Galacta Knight battle theme]] from ''Super Star Ultra''.
* ''{{Metroid}}''
** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCjZTxGUzMI Rundas' Theme]]''' from ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime 3: Corruption''.
*** Original.
*** Stage: Pyrosphere (Wii U)
* ''FireEmblem''
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bio99hoZVYI Id ~Purpose~]]''' from ''FireEmblemAwakening''.
*** Original (it's already awesome the way it is)
*** Stage: Arena Ferox (3DS)
** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXv4PMpiFc Comrades]]''' from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''.
*** Remix.
*** Stage: Arena Ferox (3DS)
* ''{{Pikmin}}''
* ''VideoGame/FZero''
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIaudul3_VI Silence]]''' from the first ''F-Zero'' game on SNES.
*** Remix, seeing as others like White Land and Fire Field from ''Brawl'' were such.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccbCcdl_6s Drivin' Through on Max]]''' (Sector A/B) from ''F-Zero X''.
*** Original.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Go_hmHv7U The Long Distance of Murder]]''' (Red Canyon) from ''F-Zero X''.
*** Original.
** '''[[{{MarioKart}} Rainbow Road]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqJEEAA-sw Theme]]''' from ''F-Zero X Expansion Kit''.
*** Original.
*** Could possibly play on a ''MarioKart'' themed stage rather than an ''F-Zero'' one.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okadVyHMsVY Illusion]]''' from ''F-Zero GP Legend''.
** As a remix, possibly with more bass to be added.
* ''StarFox''
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDUJPSNtZ9Y Star Wolf's Theme]]''' from ''StarFox2''
*** As a remix most likely.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGkGdfFwSM Zoness]]''' from ''StarFox64''
*** Maybe as original. If a sorrow song such as Midna's Lament could be in ''Brawl'', then maybe this could count?
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMJ9tqBcMPQ Vs. Zoness]]''' from ''StarFoxAssault''
*** Original.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIAnQoSmeE VS. Aparoid City]]''' from ''StarFoxAssault''
*** Original.
* ''{{MOTHER}}''
* Other
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaHEWdv2Gw0 We Will Prevail]]''' (Will/Ed's theme) from ''[[{{NintendoWars}} Advance Wars: Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict]]''
*** Remix
*** The closest stage it could play on is the next ''FireEmblem'' stage to be featured.
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EBTZq2KPs Hero of Legend]]''' (Forsythe's theme) from ''[[{{NintendoWars}} Advance Wars: Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict]]''.
*** Maybe as the original version
*** Again ''FireEmblem'' stage.
* Mega Man's victory theme should be the "stage clear" theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmS0i_krAkw

[[AC: Bosses]]

''VideoGame/{{Xenoblade}}''
* If Shulk's a playable character, '''Metal Face''' would make a great boss, alternating between physical and long-range attacking modes.

[[VideoGame/PunchOut Punch-Out!!]]
* Mr. Sandman served as the final boss of the Wii game, and was intimidating to boot! For those concerned that he'd be a little underwhelming compared to the other bosses, the man can take down an entire building with his bare hands! That's more than Petey Piranha can say!

MegaMan
* Seeing how the Yellow Devil might become a boss, there's a chance that Wily could make a reference or something too.

Franchise/{{Pokemon}}
* Giratina
* Darkrai
* Kyurem

FireEmblem
* [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius The Black Knight]]

StarFox
* Andross

EarthBound
* Giygas

VideoGame/{{Kirby}}
* Galacta Knight
** Most likely would be a BonusBoss, much like how he is in his home games.

Franchise/{{Metroid}}
* Mother Brain
** Generally considered to be the BigBad of the series, Mother Brain could provide more potential as a satisfactory boss in SSB4's Adventure Mode(?) than Ridley, who was more or less a re-skinned Dyna Blade. The initial fight against her could involve trying to break the glass she's encased in while trying to avoid her defense turrets, eventually leading her to go OneWingedAngel in a last minute attempt to kill you. What's better is that she appeared (in a flashback) in ''Other M'', meaning that she has a chance of appearing in this game.
*** As of February 7, 2014, Mother Brain is confirmed as an Assist Trophy.
* Metroid Queen
** Alternatively, if Mother Brain doesn't appear as a boss in SSB4 then the Metroid Queen could easily fill in the position. She's appeared as the final boss twice in the series (Metroid II and Other M), and is the most powerful form of the Metroid species. Like Mother Brain, she is a potentially unique boss in how she could serve as a MookMaker for Metroids. Newly-born Metroids could appear and assist her in defeating the players.

Franchise/DonkeyKong
* Tiki Tong
** He may be yet another "generic hands boss", but he's nonetheless the final boss of VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryReturns. If not him, then maybe King K. Rool (although for our sakes let's hope that it doesn't happen).

VideoGame/KidIcarus
* Twinbellows
* Hades

[[AC: New Items]]

[[WMG: The [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 Wing and Vanish Boxes]] will show up.]]
We already have the Metal Box, so why not complete the trifecta? The Vanish Box would be a perfect replacement for the Cloaking Device, and the effect would no longer be shafted into a Special [whatever word they'll use in SSB4's final title] exclusive (like it was in ''Brawl''). As for the Wing Box, it wouldn't be an implausible item -- it would give you the ability to glide, which is currently [[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/technique05.html exclusive to three characters]].
* What would it do for the characters who can already glide, then?
[[WMG: Angry Birds might make an appearance]]
Yes ... AngryBirds. Maybe they'll work like Mr. Saturn ... here's how they'll work.
* Red: Throw it like a regular projectile.
** There's a chance that this bird has feathers revolving around it (like in "Red's Mighty Feathers"). If so, then when thrown it will fly directly at a selected opponent.
* Blue: Throw it and it'll split into three slightly faster yet weaker projectiles.
* Yellow: Throw it and it'll go fast, causing some strong damage.
* Black: Throw it and it'll explode once you press the throw button OR after a few seconds.
* White: Throw it and it'll fly up and drop an explosive egg, doing some meteor damage.
* Green: Throw it and it'll come back to you like a boomerang.
* Big Brother: Heavier than the Red, but it'll cause more damage and knockback.
* Orange: Will throw and work a bit like the Yellow Bird, but will puff a few seconds upon impact, causing a disadvantage with jumping.
* Ice: Will freeze foe upon impact.
* Pink: Will release bubbles that'll also disrupt jumping moves and trap foes in bubbles.

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[[AC: New Stages]]

[[WMG: Patch Land from ''VideoGame/KirbysEpicYarn'' will be one of the new stages.]]
You can interact with and unravel parts of the environment. Plus, who wouldn't want to fight on an arena that [[MemeticMutation feels like pants]]?

[[WMG: Any level from ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryReturns'']]
They were all great and memorable stages. Personally I'd root for Sunset Shore or Foggy Fumes and give everyone the silhouette effect (which could come in handy in team battles), but anything would do, really.

[[WMG: Two Words, Wuhu Island.]]
Let's face it, this island was the setting of ''WiiFit'', ''WiiSportsResort'', and ''PilotwingsResort''.
And now it has two tracks (and a Battle Stage) in ''MarioKart7''.

It seems likely that the island will be in the 4th Games. It can work the same as Delfino Plaza, Only this is not just the towns, but it can start at Wuhu Town, then Windmill Park, Lakeside Castle, even the The Mysterious Ruins can be the part of the stage.
** Confirmed! Wuhu Island appears as stage alongside the third island from Pilotwings.

[[WMG: Groznyj Grad from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''.]]
[=MGS3=] is getting a rerelease on the 3DS, so Nintendo fans will have a chance to be familiar with that area long before SSB4 comes out.

[[WMG: Seaside Hill from ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''.]]
Sega seems to be trying to make this the modern GreenHillZone, seeing as it features in ''SonicAndSegaAllStarsRacing'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames'', and ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations''.
* [[SonicUnleashed Spagonia/Rooftop Run]] would also be an excellent candidate. Also, [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Speed Highway/Emerald Coast.]]

[[WMG: The Sealed Grounds from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'']]
It's a large area with numerous platforms around the edges as well as a temple. It's also highly dynamic with the possibility of several hazards.
Possible sequence of events:
* The Imprisoned breaks loose and stomps around the level in a fashion similar to the Ultimate Chimera in New Pork City; players could stand on its head with no risk of damage, though.
* Eventually, The Imprisoned is driven back when Groose runs in and starts launching bombs at it from the Groosenator; the bombs would cause heavy damage and knockback to anybody hit by them, and whoever was camping on The Imprisoned's head will probably die instantly.
* After warning sounds play for a few seconds, anybody stupid enough to stay in the pit will be hit by the falling Sky Keep, which will briefly replace the pit with the Goddess Temple and change the layout of the stage.
* The Sky Keep returns to the heavens, hurting anyone standing on it. The events then repeat themselves.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Stone Tower Temple]]]]

[[WMG: The Roivas Mansion from ''EternalDarkness'']]
Aside from VideoGame/{{Geist}}, Eternal Darkness is the only M-Rated game directly published and owned by Nintendo. If the inclusion of Solid Snake is any indication, they are willing to include elements of mature games so long as the element itself isn't questionable. The stage would be set in the foyer of the mansion, with different sanity effects influencing the level structure and events during the fight.

[[WMG: A prison.]]
This will be an original stage for the ''Smash Bros.'' universe. The cells will hold various Nintendo characters who, of course, aren't playable. Prisoners could include Mach Rider, [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Wes]], [[VideoGame/PaperMario Rawk Hawk]], [[VideoGame/PunchOut Mr. Sandman]], [[VideoGame/MetroidOtherM Adam Malkovitch]], and [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Midna]], just to name a few. As an added bonus, you can hear the characters cheering/jeering the fighters.
* Why the hell would it be a prison?!? That's kinda bleak. Wouldn't a stadium be preferable? Maybe the Midair Stadium from Brawl could stand in for Final Destination or Battlefield.
** Maybe the game's villain keeps them in there? It could work as a story mode stage where you free the imprisoned characters.

[[WMG: N's Castle]]
If N doesn't make it in as a fighter, the next best thing is having his castle as a stage where he's having the ultimate battle with Hilda/Hilbert as the backdrop. It's the most logical replacement for Spear Pillar, anyway.
* The duel between the two could even spill over into the battle between the fighters as a stage event. For instance, Zekrom's Fusion Bolt or Reshiram's Fusion Flare could miss its intended target (read: the other dragon), resulting in Zekrom's tail sweeping across the battlefield or a massive fireball hurtling down from above. If the battle goes on long enough, eventually N's dragon[[note]]probably Zekrom, considering it's the dragon of ideals and N is a textbook WideEyedIdealist[[/note]] is knocked out and he moves on to his other Pokémon, resulting in events such as Zoroark's illusions causing a massive InterfaceScrew, Klinklang bouncing across the stage after receiving a massive hit from Hilda/Hilbert's dragon, Archeops swooping over the stage as it dodges the attacks of Hilda/Hilbert's dragon, Carracosta sliding across the stage like Bowser in VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU, and Vanilluxe's Blizzards act as a recurring hazard that the players must hide from whenever they get too close to the stage. If the battle wears on ''really'' long, N will be defeated and the fight with [[spoiler:Ghetsis]] will begin, resulting in ''his'' Pokémon being the stage hazards. If the battle continues long enough for [[spoiler:Ghetsis]] to be defeated as well, eventually Celebi or Dialga will pass through and catapult the players back in time to the beginning of N's battle with Hilbert/Hilda, repeating the cycle.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 The Space Colony ARK]]]]
''Sonic Adventure 2 Battle'' was one of the first Sonic games released on a Nintendo system, so it has an important place in Nintendo's history. And the ARK was an important location in that game (as well as in ''ShadowTheHedgehog'', which also got a release on [=GameCube=].)

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Mother1}} Holy Loly Mountain/Mt.Itoi]]]]
There is no Mother 1 representation yet when it comes to stages or characters besides stickers, so why not? Once in a while, Giegue/Giygas would show up in the background and attack, and the only way you can avoid it is to sidestep dodge. If that's too powerful, maybe some Starmen.
* The only problem is what the English translation would call it.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Good Egg Galaxy]]]]
Or some other stage inspired by the Mario Galaxy games; I'd be surprised if there wasn't one.
* Alternatively, the Observatory or Starship Mario. Both could go around visiting different galaxies from the games.

[[WMG: The Bridge of Eldin will return...]]
Only [[MythologyGag mirrored]].

[[WMG: A VideoGame/PokemonSnap Themed stage]]
It would be a moving stage where you whiz past several different Pokemon in their natural habitat. A lot of Pokémon will interact with the fighters (Charizard blasting them with fire, Tyranitar swiping at the stage, Cofagrigus grabbing players).

[[WMG: The {{Pac-Man}} Maze]]
Could make for some interesting combat. The fruit could be used for health as well.

[[WMG: [[KidIcarusUprising The Underworld]]]]
Either based on Medusa's castle [[spoiler:or the area Pit fights Hades in chapter 23/25.]] In this stage, it would be one of those stages where the God/Goddess interferes and attacks the players and like Spear Pillar, could alternate between who is in the background. Bonus points if Pit gets a CODEC like Snake and can talk to the God/Goddess in the background with Lady Palutena there and another bonus point where if Dark Pit is Pit's alternate costume, Dark Pit's voice will be talking to the God/Goddess instead.

[[WMG: Some variant of [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser's Castle]]]]
It would make a perfect side-scrolling stage like Mushroomy Kingdom was in Brawl. It's a staple in almost every Mario game and could incorporate elements from all of them. The initial scrolling portion would be an homage to [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1 World 1-4]], followed by a chandelier climb reminiscent of VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG. Then the next section would be a run across the parapets while being shot at by Bullet Bills and chased by tanks, a la VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3. And finally, there would be a [[VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld big, red door]] that takes the players to a boss room, in which a random member of the Koopalings will join the fight as a hazard. After the Koopaling takes enough hits, the floor drops out of the stage and returns the players to the beginning of the scrolling part of the level.
* There's been more Bowser's Castles than that!
** Of course. I was just lisitng some of more iconic ones. Other games you could pull elements from would be ''SuperMario64'', ''PaperMario'', the ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Galaxy]]'' games, etc.

[[WMG: [[MetroidOtherM Geothermal Powerplant]]]]
Every Smash game has had a Metroid stage with rising lava as a hazard. This stage would continue that tradition, while also representing the newest Metroid game. For those who haven't played, this is the area where Samus fights Ridley, the location of that infamous cutscene.
* Confirmed! We have the Pyrosphere!

[[WMG: [[NintendoLand The Nintendo Land Plaza]]]]
In this stage,you can either fight on the park grounds where you can see some of your Miis walking around Nintendo Land or on top of the tower. Bonus points if some items burst out of the tower.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Hades]]]]
[[spoiler: Not as in the place, but the [[WombLevel character himself]]. At one point in Chapter 23, Pit is swallowed by Hades and has to battle his way out from inside Hades's body. The stage takes place inside there, and Hades will comment on what's going on in battle.]]

[[WMG: VideoGame/{{Tetris}}]]
It'd be a giant Tetris game, with the characters fighting on top of the tetriminoes. They would randomly fall from the top of the stage and collect at the bottom, and occasionally rotate in midair. You would only be able to fall off the stage by being knocked into an empty column.

[[WMG: Franchise/{{Castlevania}}]]
If Simon Belmont is a playable character, then it makes sense to have his stage be the iconic setting of the franchise, but even more than that... It's the entirety of the [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaI original Castlevania]] remade as a scrolling stage for Smash Bros, complete with its iconic enemies and bosses, eventually leading to Dracula's Throne Room, before sending the fighters falling back to the start of the stage. It also works as a sort of pun as the stage is ''[[ExactWords Castlevania]]''. Even taking the Japanese name of the franchise into account still makes the stage name work as both the original game and the castle are Akumajou Dracula or Demon Castle Dracula. In addition, despite Castlevania taking on its iconic form, it ends up being the most chaotic of the stages with its scrolling, hazards and enemies, making it the FightingGame version of ChaosArchitecture.

[[WMG: VideoGame/WreckingCrew]]
They've already made stages for MarioBros and DonkeyKong, so why not Wrecking Crew? The blocks can be broken if attacked enough, and have a small chance of leaving items. The bombs serve the same purpose they did in the original game (the former damaging bricks lined up with it when it explodes, and the latter being dropped to trap enemies). Eggplant Man, the fireball, and Foreman Spike all occasionally appear as stage hazards, performing the same functions they had in the original (Eggplant Man runs around in a predictable pattern, and Foreman Spike tries to push players off of platforms), though Eggplant Man can also hurt you if touched, and Foreman Spike can be knocked away if hit with a strong enough attack.

[[WMG: A {{Pinball}}-themed stage]]
Nintendo has made a few pinball games, including Pinball for the NES, PokemonPinball, Kirby's Pinball Land, VideoGame/MarioPinballLand, and MetroidPrime Pinball. A pinball-theme staged based off of any of those (or incorporating elements from all of them) could be plausible.

[[WMG: The boxing ring is indeed a Punch-Out!! stage]]
The boxing ring has been a bit of a heated subject among fans, but there is solid evidence that the stage is based on the boxing classic.
* For one, the architecture is pretty much the same as the Major and World circuits from the Wii game. The ring's ropes also match the color of the ropes in the Major Circuit, blue-white-white-red.
* The Smash logo appears in the middle of the ring, but it also appeared in Brawl's Mario Circuit and Distant Planet in the background. The Smash symbol makes sense instead of the W.V.B.A. logo, though. The fight going on isn't actually a W.V.B.A fight... it's a Super Smash Bros. fight!
** In addition, the Smash logo is overlaid on a large star, and also has a border consisting of laurels and [[http://i.imgur.com/QSCAXpe.jpg three-star patterns]]. This heavily resembles the style of the [[http://i.imgur.com/oWzpteX.jpg circuit emblems]] in Punch-Out!! Wii.
* The ring's camera angle is the same as the fights in Punch-Out!!, on a 2D plane. You can also only move left or right in both games.
* So far, the boxing ring hasn't been shown on the 3DS. Punch-Out!! is a home console game, so it makes sense that it won't appear on the 3DS.
* There were two sections of the E3 Smash Nintendo Direct where footage of the WiiU and 3DS stages was shown. This was real gameplay footage, complete with in-game music playing for each stage--except for the boxing ring, which only played a track of the audience cheering and clapping. If this is in fact a Punch-Out stage, it would make sense to hide the actual music tracks that would play on it.
* The marquees displaying "Smash Bros." have the same dotted style as [[http://i.imgur.com/sgmo0ru.png those in Punch-Out!! Wii]], along with the title screen and round displays in the NES game. Furthermore, the color gradient of those marquees is the same as the title screens for the Wii and NES games.
* The green laser show [[http://i.imgur.com/Odu2I7I.jpg seen here]] makes an appearance at the start of World Circuit matches in the Wii game, most easily seen in [[http://i.imgur.com/hvnTGDl.png the introduction scene for the Contender fight with Mr. Sandman.]]
* Even the display screen in the background could be a reference to the games. A display screen can be seen in the background of the NES game's boxing ring. It's where Little Mac's and the opponent's health bars are displayed, along with the time remaining and points scored.
* Finally, one last cryptic hint. In the NES game, Mario was the referee in every bout. In the first trailer for the new Super Smash Bros., who else was in the boxing ring before the Villager jumped in... Mario!
* Now we know that Little Mac will be a playable character, so I think this is confirmed.
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[[AC: Assist Trophies]]
For characters that should appear but probably don't have any good possible movesets. Make sure to include:
* Game Series
** '''Character Name'''
*** Justification
*** The action(s) the character should perform once it enters the battlefield.

* Franchise/SuperMarioBros, VideoGame/YoshisIsland, VideoGame/WarioLand, VideoGame/WarioWare, and VideoGame/PaperMario
* Franchise/DonkeyKong
** Rambi
*** The player who summoned him could jump onto his back, using him as a mount that could KO enemies with ease with the added bonus of brief invulnerability. The downside to using him would be that he can't double jump.
** Cranky Kong
*** The original Donkey Kong and one of the most memorable characters in the franchise. He would be sort of a joke assist, mainly ranting about video games as in DKC, but would also (as in the WMG above) throw 8-bit items from the original Donkey Kong game at the characters.
* Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda
* VideoGame/KidIcarus
** Eggplant Wizard
*** Probably the most iconic monster in the entire Kid Icarus series due to WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster. He could throw eggplants at the characters, temporarily turning them into walking eggplants (much like in VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising). This would slow down opponents, keep them from using their special or smash moves, and keep them from jumping too high.
* VideoGame/{{Kirby}}
** Galacta Knight
*** Perhaps one of the more iconic Kirby bosses. He will fly around the stage, using his moves from KirbysReturnToDreamland and KirbySuperStar Ultra.
* {{Metroid}}
** [[AnIcePerson Rundas]]
*** He was probably the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular]] hunter in Prime 3. He will act similar to [[SinAndPunishment Saki]], except that his shots freeze the opponent. He could also make a wall of ice by shooting at the ground and walls, creating temporary barriers and platforms, which could be broken if hit enough times.
** [[ColdSniper Trace]]
*** He was one of the most overused hunters in Hunters, second only to Sylux. He will hide in the foreground or background (likely the former), attempting to snipe a random opponent as indicated by a [[CrosshairAware red reticle]]. The target can dodge Trace's attacks with decent timing, but the player who summoned Trace can assist him by attacking the opponent while Trace attempts to shoot him.
* FireEmblem
* {{Pikmin}}
** Bumbling Snitchbug
*** An enemy from Pikmin that is one of the few that directly attacks the captain. The Snitchbug could swoop down at characters, grab them, and then toss them into the ground, sending them partially buried like DK's B-down move.
** The Waterwraith
*** An infamous boss from Pikmin 2. When summoned, his stone rollers crash down onto the stage and then the wraith itself comes down. It then rolls around on the stage chasing any fighters. Contact with the rollers does severe damage.
* VideoGame/{{F-Zero}}
* StarFox
* VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}
** Duster
*** Since Lucas is already using Rope Snake as his grab and his other thief tools may not be too handy for typical Smash Bros. special attacks. Once he appears, he can pin down enemies using his wall staples and then attacks any foe that get close enough using various kicks.
* VideoGame/CluCluLand
** Bubbles
*** Nintendo loves including obscure Nintendo characters in the Smash Bros. series, so why not include Bubbles from this arcade classic? She could stun fighters with a Sound Wave and push them off the stage.
* VideoGame/DuckHunt
** The Dog
*** Let's face it, this dog has been [[TheScrappy tormenting gamers for years]]. Why not honour that making him actually assist you? He could throw ducks around, which would then fly around attacking fighters.
*** Or maybe... The Dog, when summoned, does nothing but laugh at you. He's the [[JokeItem Joke Assist]].
** The Ducks
*** [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/Assist_Trophy According to this page on the Smash Wiki]], Nintendo tried putting Assist Trophies in Melee, and the only one they disclosed information about was one that would release the ducks from Duck Hunt, which would fly around and interfere with the fighters. Perhaps they could use that concept in the fourth game...
* VideoGame/UrbanChampion
** The Urban Champion
*** For whatever reason, Nintendo loves this mediocre game and ports it as often as possible. His only abilities would be to punch slowly, and to have a flowerpot sometime fall onto him. Any opponent above him takes minor damage.
* Third Party
** [[PacMan Pac-Man]]
*** Namco is helping develop the next installment of the series and Pac-Man is basically their mascot. Even if Pac-Man doesn't get a playable role, he should at least get an assist trophy. It could be 8-bit Pac-Man from the original arcade game, who tries to chomp the characters using a Power Pellet.
*** Alternatively, he'll eat the power pellet and every opponent will turn blue, losing all offensive capability, forcing them to run from the one who got the trophy, like the ghosts would in the original game. If they get KOed and respawn before the timer runs out though, they'll be back to normal
** [[DigDug Taizo Hori]]
*** If Pac-Man is a playable character or otherwise is decided not to become an assist trophy or playable character in some fashion. Taizo Hori from Dig Dug is another iconic Namco character who could dig into the stage and inflate the characters with his pump (in the original Dig Dug, partially inflating someone stunned them). He could also attack with his jackhammer from Dig Dug 2.
** [[VideoGame/PacMan Blinky, Inky, Pinky, and Clyde]]
*** If PacMan is a fighter, this is a definite. They could fly around the screen, knocking out the fighters.
* Other
** [[VideoGame/PanelDePon Lip]]
*** If Lip does not become a playable character. She has been represented in the Smash series by her signature weapon since Melee. She could use her Lip's Stick to put flowers on enemies' heads, much like the standalone weapon. She could also drop Panel de Pon blocks onto the stage.
** [[VideoGame/DillonsRollingWestern Dillon]]
*** He is from one of the most popular downloadable 3Ds games, so it seems likely. He could tackle into people like Jigglypuff then either use his grind or claw attacks.
** {{Shantae}}
*** She's not a well-known character but she does have a small but dedicated fanbase. A full-on playable character is unlikely but she could definitely appear as an assist trophy. She would belly dance into a random transformation and assist the player who summoned her.
** [[VideoGame/ARGames Mr. AR]]
*** Certainly players of the 3DS version would likely be familiar with him at least. He could place an AR card on the ground and have various things occur above the card.

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[[WMG: Yoshi will be confirmed for [=SSB4=] when his new game comes out]]
''Yoshi's New Island'' slated for American and European release March 14, 2014.
* Jossed, a stage based on Tomodachi Collection was confirmed instead.

[[WMG: First/Second Party Character Speculation...]]
As a quick and easy way to form WMG, please put your character guesses in this format:

*** Required: Justification to be in this game over other characters...
*** Optional: Possible moveset, role in theoretical storyline, alternate colors, etc...
Commence!

* Franchise/SuperMarioBros, VideoGame/YoshisIsland, VideoGame/DonkeyKong, VideoGame/WarioLand, VideoGame/WarioWare, and VideoGame/PaperMario
** '''Rosalina''', after showing up in ''Mario Galaxy'', has gotten a huge fanbase. Since she has borderline god-like powers and a moveset that can be taken directly from the game, it's natural to see TheHighQueen of Nintendo in the game. At the very least, a PaletteSwap for Peach seems inevitable. As of December 2013, confirmed for ''Super Smash Bros. 4''.
** '''Paper Mario'''. So far, Mario doesn't have any moves from the Paper Mario universe, so having Paper Mario will have some fresh (non clone) moves and another 2D character.
*** Maybe the Final Smash could be to throw Flip blocks, so you can make your enemy dizzy. Actually, all of the fairies could be used, like Tippi, to... what can Tippi do again? Eh, just make her reveal "information" (a bunch of squiggly lines) so the enemies are harder to hit. (There wouldn't be any actual info, just the enemies are more vulnerable).
*** Given there's now four games in the series and little representation beyond some trophies and stickers, Paper Mario as a character would be perfect; likely using the hammer and the occasional partner, with his Final Smash involving the Crystal Stars.
** '''Birdo''' has been around longer than many of the other characters in Smash Bros, including Yoshi and Wario. She's been a recurring boss character and friend for years, and it would be nice to have another female character as well as trans representation.
** "A Hell Valley Sky Tree", perhaps as a major antagonist. His people could have been watching the Nintendo cast for a long, long time...
** '''Captain Syrup'''
** Wario's number-one rival that's not Mario (number-two rival?). While she hasn't been in many games, she always ends up complementing Wario in many ways, making her a nice choice if the Wario series only gets one more character.
** Wario Ware: '''Nine Volt'''
*** For being a Nintendo fanatic, his moves could be based off of Nintendo's merchandise (including their non video game products) and his microgames.
*** 9-volt could play a major part in the story. If he crosses Mario or Luigi or both, (This gamer wants it Nintendo if your reading this) it could lead to interesting dialogue and could help with escape routes with the shortcuts he knows, only amazing the Mario Bros., and a Heartwarming moment could be in order if he, for example, sees an incoming projectile (like the dark gun which turns people into statues), he could do a TakingTheBullet, only to be healed, Mario or Luigi could sign his helmet. It seems pretty inedible for 9-volt to be in the game.
*** Why not? He isn't forgotten, as shown as his stickers in the game, and with the Kat and Ana assist trophy, it was proof that WarioWare isn't forgotten. And who is the most liked Warioware character minus Wario? 9-volt. Nintendo, realizing he is the okatu of their franchise, will put him in to attract other gamers to the Warioware franchise, causing them to play 9-volt's games, and realizing how awesome old school games were by searching 9-volts micro-games, they will revive the old school genre, causing a heroic GambitRoulette for Nintendo, making them do sequels to old school games, and eventually, take over the gaming market even '''''MORE!'''''
**** What would be awesome is if all of his attacks were based on Nintendo products. He'd have the zapper, the Wii Nunchuck, and even...the Power Glove.
**** [[TheWizard I love the Power Glove...]] More seriously though, for a more detailed description on it, check out this [[http://marioking9834.deviantart.com/art/Newcomer-9-volt-211846851 DA pic]]. (NO, this doesn't mean he's confirmed yet!)
** Wario Ware: '''Mona'''
*** For being the cover girl of the series after Wario himself, she could have many moves inspired from their mini games.
*** A possible movelist could be:
**** B: Mona rocks on her guitar, damaging anybody nearby.
**** </>+B: Mona throws a pizza box, her standard projectile.
**** ^+B: Mona activates a jetpack for a second, similar to Pit's flying but it doesn't last as long.
**** v+B: Mona does an instant slide kick, going at a mid-range distance.
** Wario Ware: '''Kat and Ana'''
*** Already assist trophies in Brawl, they seem as likely to get in as anything Wario Ware. They are not accurate {{ninja}}s but still closer to proper ninjas than Sheik so that could be some added appeal [[PiratesVsNinjas if Syrup makes it in]]. Against them is that Smash has a surplus of sword users and there are still swordsmen from Nintendo games not represented in the series, but they would only need to use Katanas for a few moves.
** Wario Ware: '''Ashley'''
*** Now that she's become a fully playable character in Game & Wario, she would make a great addition to the roster.
*** Jossed with her confirmation as an assist trophy.
** Wario Ware: '''Young Cricket'''
*** He is a master of [[{{Wii}} We-Ken]], a student of [[{{Wii U}} We-Yu-Ken]] and Kung fu.
** '''Geno'''
*** While he would have copyright issues around him, Geno was one of the most requested characters for Brawl. He has a lot of interesting attacks, so that helps.
** '''Elder Princess Shroob'''
*** Just for being a big ugly MightyGlacier [[UnexpectedCharacter most people would not expect]]. '''Fawful''' has been in more games and is more likely to get in, but Shroob was a final boss, could have interesting moves, and there are no playable fungi yet.
** '''Dixie Kong''', '''King K. Rool''', or another Donkey Kong Boss
*** If people want another female character, Dixie seems like a good enough choice, and she was a protagonist of two Donkey Kong games. King K. Rool is the boss who shows up the most.
*** Dixie Kong is probably a good bet. Her name shows up in unused data for Brawl, and she's returning in DKC: Tropical Freeze.
*** I'd prefer King K. Rool, on the grounds that Mario, Zelda, and Kirby all have the series' main antagonists as playable characters. He's got potential for an interesting moveset since his initial appearance (throwing his crown, stomp attack), his blunderbuss from [=DKC2=] could be put to interesting uses, and his Final Smash could be dropping cannonballs all over the stage like he did in the first Donkey Kong Country. A Donkey Kong Country Returns sequel featuring Kremlings would probably ensure his position in the next Smash Bros.
**** You didn't mention his stint as Baron K. Roolensten, from which he could at least derive a solid Up+B move.
** '''Cranky Kong'''
*** Has more appearances in Donkey Kong than anyone except Donkey and Diddy. His attacks could consist of throwing 8-bit items from the original arcade game.
*** His playability status in the new Donkey Kong Country game may influence this somewhat.
** '''Baby Mario and Luigi'''
*** They (or at least Baby Mario) have been in several multiplayer Mario games already, so why not?
*** They would operate in a manner similar to the Ice Climbers, only with a completely different moveset so as not to be labeled as clones.
*** Alternatively, the Mario Bros. based off of MarioAndLuigi. There are plenty of moves that could work. Their B could be the hammer, down-B could be the drill, up-B could be the super spin (or whatever its name was) side-B could be... Koopa Shell, perhaps? Hell, their Final Smash could be one of the special moves. There are plenty that would work quite well. Mighty Meteor, Falling Star, Magic Window, Super Bouncer, Snack Basket, Jump Helmet, they would all work really well.
** '''Daisy'''
*** She has appeared in practically every Mario spinoff since MarioTennis and one main game. She is somewhat more popular than Waluigi.
** '''Bowser Jr.'''
*** Call him a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] if you wish, but there's no denying that Bowser Jr. has been a major shaping force in the ''Mario'' series ever since his debut. He was all but the main antagonist in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'' and [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii both]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' titles, and played an important role as Bowser's [[TheDragon second-in-command]] in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Galaxy]]'' [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 titles]]. Perhaps more importantly, the use of his magical paintbrush from ''Sunshine'' could make Bowser Jr. into a very unique and entertaining character to play as.
** '''Waluigi'''
*** Who could forget him. He has a higher chance than many other Mario characters.
*** As of February 27th, his appearance as a playable character has been jossed; instead he reprises his role as assist trophy.
** '''Toad'''
*** Since he has been playable in the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games and the upcoming ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', he could work as a full-fledged playable character. His default color scheme will of course be the red spots and blue vest, and his alternate colors will be all red, all blue, green, yellow, and purple. Of course, Peach's standard special move will have to be changed in order for Toad to be a valid player.
* Franchise/{{Pokemon}}
** '''Zoroark'''
*** Basically the fifth-gen counterpart of Lucario, Game Freak has been heavily promoting him/her. (S)he was even the first Black and White Pokémon to be revealed.
*** Melee had Mewtwo as a playable character, the only movie featured Pokemon that was humanoid enough to be included. Brawl comes around, Lucario's in, he was the last humanoid Pokemon character to be featured in a movie at that point (Lugia, Entei, Latios and Latias, and Jirachi are all too far from humanoid and Deoxys was before Lucario). Zoroark is the current Pokemon in this role, it's humanoid enough to fit into the game. Unless, before hand, another one replaces it, I see it being a playable character in the next game, or at least a Poké Ball summon. If all three are playable, (Mewtwo, Lucario, and Zoroark) it would probably rank right up there on the FridgeBrilliance o-meter. Remember all of that speculation about a Dark/Psychic/Fighting starter trio? And, what with the "super effective" bonus knockback for Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle already in play (to water, fire, and grass damage, respectively (and obviously)) it's not hard to think that they would form an interesting mechanic for team play/etc.
** '''Scizor'''
*** It is not one of the original 151, who dominate the player character spots. Scizor is the most popular Pokemon in competitive battles. Its disproportional wings mean it cannot fly very far but it can shoot ahead like a bullet. Scizor would fit in Super Smash Bros very well.
*** [[SarcasmMode Yes, they sure set Scizor up to be a new mascot for the series]].
*** However, since N has a Scizor on his Autumn team in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', the idea is a bit less [[IncrediblyLamePun Farfetch'd]] if we get N as a playable Pokémon Trainer type character (see below).
** '''Victini'''
*** An alternative to Zoroark in terms of a Fifth Generation representative. Victini is popular, has a unique combination that could be put to creative use, and is roughly equal to Zoroark in terms of promotion.
** '''Hilbert''' or '''Hilda''', A.k.a. The Pokémon Trainers from [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]].
*** I just get a feeling that one of the two will replace Pokémon Trainer Red, As for the Pokémon: '''Oshawott''', '''Servine''', and '''Emboar'''.
*** Or a different lineup of the three Unova starters in different stages.
*** Bonus points if Hilbert [[AvertedTrope averts]] CrossdressingVoices!
**** The most likely option is that Pokémon Trainer (Red) will return, but for gender/generation balance we'd get Hilda or '''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Rosa]]''' as "Pokémon Trainer 2", "Female Trainer" or "Unova Trainer".
*** Alternatively, my guess is Tepig, Dewott, and Serperior.
** '''Reshiram''' and '''Zekrom'''
*** Both of them would have to be scaled down somewhat (though it isn't as bad as one might think, seeing as they're only about 9-10 feet tall rather than 11-20 like most other legendaries). Seeing the '''''huge''''' gap in popularity between Reshiram/Zekrom and other 5th gen candidates like Zoroark and Victini, however[[note]]and the equally huge marketing push that Zekrom's getting; see ''Manga/PokemonReBurst'' and ''NobunagasAmbition''[[/note]], this could be a possibility. Maybe one dragon could be exclusive to the 3DS version and the other one exclusive to the Wii U version. Alternatively...
** '''N Harmonia'''
*** He'd be a new unlockable Pokémon Trainer type character, and could be a candidate considering his surprising popularity and importance (he even got his own full art card in the TCG). For sure he'd have '''Zoroark''', '''Reshiram''', and '''Zekrom''' in some form. Either they'd be his three main Pokémon and his Final Smash would be his own version of Triple Finish (with Night Daze, Blue Flare, and Bolt Strike), or summoning Reshiram/Zekrom would be his Final Smash and the playable Pokémon would be Zoroark and two others. They'd be Pokémon that N uses in the game, possibly as fully evolved forms; maybe '''Darumaka'''/'''Darmanitan''', '''Klang'''/'''Klinklang''', '''Archeops''', '''Sandile'''/'''Krokorok'''/'''Krookodile''', '''Genesect''', or some options from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' such as '''Scizor''' (above).
** '''Ghetsis'''
*** The true main villain of Black/White and Black 2/White 2, and a major EnsembleDarkhorse for being repulsively evil. He'd use Eelektross, Toxicroak, and Hydreigon as his team. Maybe he could also be one of the major villains in Adventure Mode.
** '''Tyranitar'''
*** Another Pokemon not from the original 151 who has remained a favorite choice since its introduction. Besides DishingOutDirt, it is another big and strong glacier type and could use shadow moves from the Orre games.
*** Shadow moves? You may have a point; Shadow Tyranitar was Evice's ace in the hole, sort of (well, actually, his whole team was a major pain, with Slaking, Scizor, and Slowking being the standouts), and it was the most powerful Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum.
** '''Metagross'''
*** For many of the same reasons as Tyranitar, being consistently popular since its introduction, being a big strong glacier, having an interesting variety of moves, and not being from the first installment. Another quadruped wouldn't hurt either, it would work because it is psychic like Mewtwo.
** '''Primal Dialga''', but only as a boss in Story Mode, though.
*** The problem is, its battle music is owned by Chunsoft. The character itself, however, is not.
** '''Lucas''' and/or '''Dawn'''
*** As unlikely it is for the iconic Red to get replaced, they would be the best choice if he was. '''Torterra''', '''Infernape''', and '''Empoleon''' are the only trio who could convincingly pull the Might-Speed-Balance triangle in their final forms. [[CompetitiveBalance All three would wear ring targets.]]
** '''Corsola'''
*** As non-notable as Corsola is, it could be a very quirky and effective StoneWall. Especially as a semi-clone of Jigglypuff, of all things. It could use Spikes to lay traps around the stage, Hypnosis as a quick, decent-ranged sleep-inducing burst, Rest to actually regain health rather than attack, and a bouncy, unpredictable Rollout as its specials. Its basic combo would be Bubble, and its Smash attacks would include Rock Blast (emitting rocks that roll around the ground), Spike Cannon (launching the spikes on its back as an anti-air move), and Mud Slap (which would stun foes in a similar fashion to Mewtwo's Disable). Its Final Smash would either be Surf (summoning a tidal wave functionally equivalent to the lava wave on Norfair) or [=AncientPower=] (surrounding itself with numerous orbiting rocks and then floating around the stage in a similar fashion to Pikachu's Volt Tackle, attempting to trap opponents inside to be bounced around pinball-style ForMassiveDamage).
** '''Team Rocket Grunt'''
*** There hasn't yet been a villainous Pokémon character, unless you count Mewtwo (he seems to be counted amongst the villainous characters within Melee, and was indeed briefly a villain in the Pokémon anime, but it still seems like a bit of a stretch).
*** His or her team could consist of Arbok, Weezing, and Meowth. His/Her red and blue team palettes could be based on Teams Magma and Aqua.
** '''Ditto'''
*** Ditto starts off pretty [[JokeCharacter useless]], but after being attacked, it takes the form of whoever attacks it. It would be a literal DittoFighter.
** '''Blaziken'''
*** There was a lack of third-generation representation in Brawl and with it being a fighting type Pokemon, there are plenty of moves it can learn. It could also be a partial clone of Capt. Falcon with moves like Sky Uppercut, Blaze Kick and Fire Punch.
** '''Meloetta'''
*** While it could be seen as a clone of Zelda, Meloetta could have a vastly different playing style. Its Pirouette Forme could be a smaller, harder-hitting Sheik, while its Aria Forme could focus more on defense/evasion with moves like telekinesis and teleport.
** '''Eevee'''
*** Although its moveset would be hard to figure out, Eevee is still a rather notable pokémon that should at least get an assist trophy.
*** Alternatively, it becomes a JokeCharacter, but as it's attacked, it begins to gain power. At the apex, the attribute it's attacked with causes it to evolve into the type that it corresponds to. So for instance:
---> '''Attacked with water:''' Vaporeon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Aqua Tail (Spins around to attack from all sides)\\
'''Side+B:''' Aurora Beam (Immobilizes enemies for a moment)\\
'''Up+B:''' Waterfall (Identical to Squirtle)\\
'''Down+B:''' Acid Armor (Similar to Lucario's Detect)

---> '''Attacked with electricity:''' Jolteon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Discharge (Mildy damaging electricity surrounds Jolteon, causes more damage the closer an enemy is to Jolteon)\\
'''Side+B:''' Pin Missile (A quick firing attack that can be charged to shoot more projectiles)\\
'''Up+B:''' Agility (Similar to Lucario's ExtremeSpeed, but does a bit of damage when and enemy touches Jolteon)\\
'''Down+B:''' Wild Charge (Jolteon cloaks itself in electricity, and sprints back and forth a short distance. If an enemy touches Jolteon, then Jolteon suffers minor damage)

---> '''Attacked with fire:''' Flareon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Lava Plume (Similar to Ivysaur's Bullet Seed)\\
'''Side+B:''' Fire Fang (Flareon dashes forwards and bites onto the target, leaving them burning for a short time)\\
'''Up+B:''' Flame Charge (Similar to Charizard's Fly)\\
'''Down+B:''' Smog (Releases a cloud of purple smoke around it's body, hurting anyone who stands in the cloud, but does not cause knockback)

---> '''Attacked by darkness:''' Umbreon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Payback (Umbreon releases spikes made of darkness from all over it's body)\\
'''Side+B:''' Shadow Ball (Umbreon releases a Shadow Ball. When it hits the opponent, it traps them in a black hole for a short time.)\\
'''Up+B:''' Quick Attack (Identical to Lucario's Extreme Speed)\\
'''Down+B:''' Confuse Ray (Identical to Mewtwo's Disable)

---> '''Attacked by energy:''' Espeon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Psyshock (Espeon creates a small energy burst around itself)\\
'''Side+B:''' Zen Headbutt (Espeon dashes forward, injuring anyone in the way of it's attack)\\
'''Up+B:''' Psychic (Espeon levitates in the direction the controller is being held. Similar to Pit's Angel Wing)\\
'''Down+B:''' Morning Sun (Espeon heals itself, but gets tired after using it for too long, immobilizing it for a few seconds)

---> '''Attacked by ice:''' Glaceon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Frost Breath (Glaceon breathes a stream of frost that gets smaller over time)\\
'''Side+B:''' Ice Shard (Glaceon fires small shards, similar to Jolteon's Pin Missile)\\
'''Up+B:''' Hail (Glaceon creates a small hailstorm. The Hail is non-damaging, and Glaceon can quickly move from one location to another because of Snow Cloak)\\
'''Down+B:''' Ice Beam (Glaceon fires at the ground, creating stalagmites of ice, that hurt anyone who touches it. If an icicle hits an opponent as it's being created, they are launched and frozen.)

---> '''Attacked by grass, leaves, or a similar attack:''' Leafeon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Energy Ball (Leafeon charges the attack, then can fire it. Alternatively, it can swallow it with a button command that will power up it's moves for a short time)\\
'''Side+B:''' Magical Leaf (Leafeon fires a tornado of leaves that damage anyone who touches it, similar to Link's Gale Boomerang)\\
'''Up+B:''' Aerial Ace (Leafeon dashes in a direction. The attack is more powerful at the end.)\\
'''Down+B:''' SolarBeam (Similar to Pikachu's Thunder)

---> '''Attacked by a stage hazard or a non-elemental attack:''' Sylveon\\
'''Moves:'''\\
'''Standard:''' Moonblast (Sylveon can charge this move, but if it is charged for too long, it will explode)\\
'''Side+B:''' Play Rough (Sylveon ensnares an opponent and begins to battle with it, resulting in a BigBallOfViolence. Both the target and Sylveon are damaged throughout the attack, but are immune to other opponents)\\
'''Up+B:''' Fairy Wind (Sylveon creates a pink tornado beneath it, and uses it to fly. Similar to Meta Knight's Mach Tornado, enemies caught in the tornado will be damaged)\\
'''Down+B:''' Light Screen (All thrown items and explosive projectiles are reflected. Every other attack will hit Sylveon)
*** Also, the final smash will result in all the Eeveelutions gathering and using Last Resort, which will give every single opponent a random effect, such as metal, flower, curry, buried, frozen, asleep, stunned, sped up or slowed down, among others. Eevee will appear and use Trump Card, which will cause the attack to rain down on opponents, similar to PK Starstorm. After that, the player will revert back to using Eevee.
** '''Giovanni'''
*** There's a lack of villainous Pokemon characters in the series, and why not pick the first and most iconic one of all? Bonus points if he has his mafioso-esque hat and suit from HG/SS. His team could consist of Persian, Nidoking, and perhaps most significantly, ''Mewtwo'', allowing the erstwhile character to make a sort of stealth comeback.
**** Make that Kangaskhan instead of Nidoking. Kangaskhan's the original iconic Normal-type he used in the games.
** '''Magikarp'''
*** He will be tied with Meta Knight for 1st place on the tier list. His Final Smash will be "Final Splash", creating a giant explosion around him.
** '''Genesect'''
*** His leading role in the upcoming Pokémon movie and the fact that they will presumably add a representative from Gen. V would presumably give him an edge.
** '''Mewtwo'''
*** Mewtwo is one of the stars of the upcoming Pokémon movie, retains immense popularity to this day, and has even recently had a new form revealed for VideoGame/PokemonXAndY. Like Lucario and Zoroark, he would serve as the mascot of the newest generation. He would probably appear as one of his Mega Evolutions, rather than his original form, to represent Gen 6.
*** Also, there was a bit of a fan uproar about him being replaced by Lucario in Brawl. His appearance in XY might have been partly to provide a reason to bring him back from Melee.
*** Hopefully this time they'll actually make him into the [[FragileSpeedster lightning-quick]] GlassCannon that he's ''supposed'' to be.
*** It'll likely have both of its Mega Forms as Final Smashes. Hopefully it'll retain its male voice from ''Melee'', however.
*** Lucario has been confirmed to return, but that still means that Mewtwo still has a chance.
** '''Charizard'''
*** Charizard, like Mewtwo, is getting a lot of WolverinePublicity these days (more than the other two Kanto starters), especially with the release of ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' and ''Anime/PokemonOrigins''. He could return as a distinct playable character a la ''VideoGame/ProjectM'', rather than being 1/3 of a character. For his Final Smash, just like the Mewtwo speculations, he could transform into one of his two Mega Forms. If not, then Pokémon Trainer could return, with Ivysaur and Squirtle now Venusaur and Blastoise. For his Final Smash, instead of Triple Finish, he could Mega Evolve the Pokémon currently being played. And he'd have his voice from ''Origins'', with said FinalSmash being a ShoutOut to the same.
** '''Meowth'''
*** He was originally going to be in ''Smash 64'', and he's still one of the more popular Pokemon out there. Since the Meowth in the anime series is apart of Team Rocket, could you imagine using him to beat the crap out of Pikachu in revenge for being constantly humiliated all these years?
** '''Druddigon'''
*** A viable choice if they wanted to add a non-legendary Dragon-type Pokemon. Yes, we already have the very dragon-like Charizard, but it's a Fire and Flying-type, not a Dragon-type like Druddigon. Going off of just moves that Druddigon can learn by leveling up, it could use its claws for attacks like Dragon Claw and Night Slash (the latter being a good counter-move like Marth's Counter). Revenge could be an attack that does more damage the higher Druddigon's damage percentage is. Chip Away, a move that ignored defense and evasion stat alterations in the original games, can be used to instantly break shields. Its Final Smash can be either Superpower or Outrage.
** '''Nate/Rosa'''
*** They're the second newest protagonists. ''Brawl'' was one gen behind ''Pokemon'', using Red instead of Lucas or Dawn (though it could be because Red is the most iconic trainer and the original protagonist), so it's not unlikely they' won't use the XY ones. Their Pokemon could be a combination of the starters.
** '''Serena/Calem'''
*** Wii U and 3DS are still in development, and XY has been in development for at least a two years if not more. By the time the next SSB is released XY will have been out for quite a while. It's unknown what the starter evolutions are but I'm guessing they'll go by Red so: Froakie, second evo of Chespin, third level of Fennekin.
** '''Champion Cynthia'''
*** She's already been in multiple generations, and is quite a powerful trainer.
** '''Espurr'''
*** If Nintendo is aware of Espurr's [[MemeticBadass Memetic]] [[CreepyChild Creep]] status, perhaps it could be playable, using various psychic attacks and adding another BadassAdorable to the series. If not, then possibly as a Pokeball Pokemon or a trophy.
** '''Lysandre'''
*** Much like Ghetsis and Giovanni mentioned above, the series could use more playable villains; his status as the main antagonist in the most recent Pokémon games and his standing with the fans also aid his potential as a character. He'd likely use Mienshao, Pyroar, and Honchkrow for his team, with [[spoiler:either his Mega Gyarados or summoning Xerneas/Yveltal]] as his Final Smash.

** '''Vaati'''
*** Vaati is the second-most recurring villain in the Zelda series. And since Smash Bros really needs more villainous characters...
**** Seconded. We never did get to see his swordplay in ''The Minish Cap''. Also, he's first and foremost a wind mage, so his moveset would probably have a lot of wind-manipulating moves. Cue pushing opponents around without ever even ''touching'' them, which would make him a ''very'' interesting character both to play as and to play against.
** "Fierce Deity Link"
*** Might be too much like adult link but has the power to fire energy from his double helix sword.
** '''Ghirahim'''
*** He's the main villain of Skyward Sword, and seems to be very popular. He could potentially have a very interesting moveset centered around his projectiles, sword, and teleporting.
**** His Final Smash could be [[spoiler: Demise.]] He could be given a small moveset and no flinching like Giga Bowser.
** '''Majora's Mask'''
*** Either worn by someone or by itself. It was the driving force of a plot, a final boss, the title of a game, and has many different options for representation.
**** How about having Skull Kid wear it and its final smash having the moon crash into the stage?
**** Him summoning the moon could even be an assist trophy.
***** Confirmed!
** '''Majora's Mask Link'''
*** He could use the Gilded sword and masks as transformations for his down B. These would act sort of like Pokémon Trainer, giving him a different moveset. His final smash would be Fierce Deity Link.
*** They could just stick to his three regular Masked forms with giant or fierce deity being a final smash, especially if Toon Link doesn't get replaced.
** '''Toon Zelda'''
*** Based off of her appearance in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks'', she can be her ghostly self that is a Luigification of the adult Zelda, or she could appear in Phantom armor and have a moveset based off the various types of Phantoms. Toon Zelda ''was'' considered for Brawl, and ''SpiritTracks'' is one of the princess's most active roles, so it'd make sense that if she were included, there'd be at least some basis from that.
** Maybe she could appear as Tetra but have the ability to change into Toon Zelda.
** '''Groose'''
*** Not nearly as likely as Ghirahim, but he's proved to be so popular with fans that he's likely to show up in some fashion, even if not playable.
*** Groose could probably be an assist trophy, at the very least. He could show up and attack players with the Groosenator, or ride in on his Loftwing along with his friends and bomb everyone/throw eggs at them.
** '''Skyward Sword Link'''
*** An alternate costume to Twilight Princess Link, his moves will be identical in play, but the SwordLines, explosions, and sound effects will be more cartoony so as to fit the stages that use cel shading. Toon Link will be retired to make way for Zelda characters with different moves and swordsmen from other Nintendo games.
*** I always figured that Skyward Sword Link would be the basis of the new adult Link, replacing Twilight Princess Link. Toon Link should probably stay, though, as he's been in two games (Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks) since Twilight Princess.
*** Nintendo's library has no shortage of kid characters or swordsmen, mini Link's no more essential than mini Pikachu.
** '''Classic Link'''
*** Probably the [[ALinkToThePast ALTTP Link]], especially if Nintendo does remake it like they've been hinting. Nintendo has made shout outs to the past before.
*** They're making a sequel so that ups the possibility.
** '''Twin Rova'''
*** They have made three appearances, were a BigBad once, and really would make more sense for a FanService character than Samus, their "sexy dress" is actually just as effective in combat as their default battle dress.
** '''Impa'''
*** Face it, she's one of the only other truly recurring heroic characters in the series-- for the sake of being topical (and having a version of her that can actually, you know, ''fight''), they'd use the Skyward Sword version. Better yet, assuming the SS version of Zelda is also used, they could potentially get rid of Sheik entirely (due to her/him not really making sense with this version of Zelda), instead letting Impa take up her approximate role. She'd fight somewhat similarly, but with the addition of more magical attacks that make use of her harp.
** '''Midna and Wolf Link'''
*** She may have only appeared once, but Midna made a pretty big impression on the fanbase, and the creators ''did'' say that "she may come back if people want it enough". For this appearance, she'd be in her usual imp form while riding Wolf Link, making for a kind of character duo somewhat like the Ice Climbers. A-moves would be provided by Wolf Link (biting, slashing, etc), Midna would use her magic for B-moves. Her Final Smash would obviously involve the use of the Fused Shadows.
** '''Ganon'''
*** The potential of Ganon returning for Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaAlinkBetweenWorlds would certainly give him a great chance. After all, he's still by all means the BigBad of the classic Zelda games and the most recurring villain, despite effectively being replaced by Ganondorf in the 3D games. A Link Between Worlds would make him relevant again, making him a more likely candidate than other villains like Vaati or Twinrova.
* KidIcarus
** '''Orcos'''
*** Whether or not it's referenced in ''Uprising'', the existence of a ''Myth and Monsters'' sticker is proof Sakurai knows about Kid Icarus's gameboy sequel. One could argue Orcos's attacks may not be different enough from each other to be playable, but seeing how Sora developed a Kid Icarus game and Pit's new moves and appearance were in that game, Sakurai could easily do the same for Orcos.
** '''Eggplant Wizard'''
*** He will be TheDragon under Mother Brain in the 4th Super Smash Bros. game.
** '''Palutena'''
*** Would definitely help on the gender ration, and I believe she's popular enough. Plus she showed some good powers when made to fight in [[KidIcarusUprising Uprising.]]
** '''Medusa'''
*** Is hardly ever the first choice, but as of Uprising she has the distinction of being Pit's most persistent nemesis and (now) has more versatile move potential than Orcos.
** '''Magnus'''
*** Very popular and could possibly replace Ike given he technically is Ike's {{Expy}} in personality and strength. Either that or just being an Ike clone or Nintendo giving him a completely different move set.
** '''Dark Pit'''
*** I could see Dark Pit more as a palette swap for Pit than anything else. Of course, given his popularity, I could see Nintendo just putting him in for the fans and making him a clone. Of course, Nintendo could pull a Capcom where his moves would be different (like Dante and Vergil from Ultimate vs. Capcom 3 despite being brothers have a completely different move set).
** '''[[spoiler:Hades]]'''
*** [[spoiler:He's the true antagonist of Uprising and could very well serve as a boss, or a playable character. He's funny and if they added voices in the next story mode (if there's a story mode), I can picture Pit and Hades yelling each other's name again.]]
*** [[spoiler:Forget playable character, he should be a goddamn '''stage'''. He makes all sorts of quips whenever something happens like a character being defeated.]]
** '''Pyrrhon'''
*** A pure fire user with a huge ego and LargeHam that can rival Captain Falcon. Can you imagine those two teaming up?
** '''Phosphora'''
*** Another character to help with the gender ratio. She's a lightning user and her fighting style in Uprising is very unique. And we can't forget the FoeYay between her and Pit.

** Kirby's Final Smash in the next game will be [[KirbysReturnToDreamland the Ultra Sword.]]
** '''Yarn Kirby'''
*** Yarn Kirby already has a lot of moves and his final smash can be his transformation to a tank from Epic Yarn.
** '''Prince Fluff'''
*** For the same reasons as Yarn Kirby, especially when one considers the game was planned to be about him before the developer got the [[DolledUpInstallment idea to add Kirby.]]
** '''Bandana Dee'''
*** He's now been a playable character in ''KirbysReturnToDreamLand'' alongside already playable Kirby, Meta Knight, and Dedede. He'll be wielding his spear, with a spear throw as a neutral-B and that helicopter spear twirl as his up-B.
** '''Galacta Knight'''
*** Probably one of the most popular Kirby characters in recent memory. He has a whole slew of moves from ''KirbySuperStar Ultra'' [[spoiler:and ''KirbysReturnToDreamLand'']] that he could use.
*** Actually, he might work better as a boss character for the game's story/adventure mode. Perhaps as a BonusBoss, just like in his home games.
** '''Knuckle Joe'''
*** He was an assist trophy in Brawl, but so much could be done with him. He'd be a good LightningBruiser, has some solid attacks like the Vulcan Jab, Force Blast, Rising Break, and others. For a Final Smash, he could grab a nearby opponent and perform an Air Drop, leaping high into the air and coming down hard.

** Metroid Prime Hunters: '''Sylux''', '''Weavel''', etc.
*** Any hunter from the Hunters DS game could work, but Sylux ties for the most overused by players and is specifically said to be Samus' rival. Weavel is a space pirate, Samus's enemy by default, and can use weapons from other space pirates to pad his move set.
** '''Metroid Prime'''
*** It has its name on a trilogy of games and has numerous different moves and forms that would work in a fighting game
*** If it does appear, it will probably show up as Dark Samus.
** '''Mother Brain'''
*** Mother Brain will be the BigBad of the 4th Super Smash Bros. game.
** '''Ridley'''
*** C'mon, his size is wildly inconsistent even within his own series, so the "he's too big!" argument is null and void. He's Samus' archnemesis and one of the only other recurring characters in the series, and he has many different forms and attacks within the various games that can be drawn upon for moves.
** '''Adam Malkovich'''
*** Okay, this one's a bit of a stretch, but he ''is'' basically the only other important human in the series. His moveset would likely be heavily made-up, but that never stopped the likes of Captain Falcon or Fox.
** '''Rundas, Ghor, or Gandrayda'''
*** They've each got more personality than any of the hunters from the DS game, and Rundas himself is a major EnsembleDarkhorse for his [[Creator/ChristopherSabat voice]], theme song, and ice powers.
** '''Anthony Higgs'''
** It would make sense for one of the most important characters from Other M to make the cut. He's shown he's good in combat, and he has great taunt potential. Can't you hear he shouting "You got no style!" to Captain Falcon?

** '''Micaiah'''
*** From [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]]; it would be cool to have a magic user from FireEmblem (and another female character!). Plus, Ike was from Path of Radiance. She could replace (or not) Ike himself. Or better yet...
** '''Sothe'''
*** '''He''' can replace Ike.
*** Or he could be a separate character, utilizing knives and agility, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WyRYCpoAM as seen here (skip to 1:42)]]
** '''Ashera'''
*** Against her is that Smash Bros already has a similarly dressed magic user in the form of Zelda and Ashera's attacks would have to be severely toned down. For her is that she has many different attacks, so her moveset wouldn't take much padding, many characters (like Ike) are already toned down, and she'd be the first antagonist from the Fire Emblem series to be playable.
** '''The Black Knight'''
*** Against him is that Ike is already a slowish character that handles his sword in a similar way and Ike and Marth would need a new entrance if he used warp powder for one of his moves. For him is that he's a popular villain from the most recent Fire Emblem game.
*** Of the series' most recent villains (not including remakes), he is fairly popular and would fit the Smash Bros gameplay well (unlike, say, Ashera or Ashnard). His rivalry with Ike is also a plus. His moveset can incorporate Eclipse (probably similar to Marth's Dancing Blade), and his Up-Special could use his warp powder (similar to Zelda/Sheik). He would also likely have Counter, like the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters. His Final Smash could be some improved form of Eclipse, like how Ike has Great Aether. Other than basic team color changes, palette swaps could include his ''Path of Radiance'' or ''Radiant Dawn'' appearance (depending on which one is his default appearance) and [[spoiler:a palette based on Zelgius's Begnion armor]]. Admittedly, though, his last appearance in the series was a while ago...
** '''Chrom'''
*** He's going to be the most recent ''FireEmblem'' protagonist in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''.
** '''Sigurd'''
*** He was originally planned for Melee before Marth replaced him. Marth's moves and taunts are clearly his; Brawl changed shield breaker to look more like Marth's thrust and added Marth's critical hit, but he's still mostly Sigurd painted over. Now that one of Marth's games has been released in English, Nintendo might as well admit Smash Bros Marth was Sigurd in disguise.
** [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina]]]]
*** Perhaps even as a replacement for Marth.
*** If nothing else, it would be nice if Marth inherited her costume.
*** Probably jossed, as Marth has been confirmed for the fourth game.
** '''Robin/the Avatar'''
*** S/he could be a very interesting secret character, if Chrom was unlocked from the start. The gender issue can be sidestepped by having male and female default Avatars with different models/voice acting but the same moveset. Maybe even have the option to import your own Avatar from ''Awakening'' if you don't like the defaults. And like Micaiah above, a magic-based moveset (or even a magical/physical hybrid) could give them a lot of uniqueness and versatility.
** '''Morgan'''
*** If it would be too much work to put Robin in, Morgan would be the next best thing, since the latter's character design is more standardized than the former's. You could even use his/her various hair colors for team differentiation.
** '''Anna'''
*** She's practically the mascot of ''Fire Emblem''. Her class in ''Awakening'', the Trickster, would make an interesting moveset.
** '''Chrom AND Robin'''
*** The game they come from boasts a new mechanic that's very central to the gameplay, specifically, pairing up so two characters fight as one and help each other out with follow-up attacks and jumping in the way of enemy hits. Robin is just as much a protagonist of that game as Chrom is, and the two are even said to be "two halves of the same whole". It'd make sense to represent their game by having Chrom and Robin share a character slot with a moveset that revolves around the other helping them out, perhaps as a cross between Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer.
*** Unfortunately, that would preclude either of them from being paired up with [[spoiler:Lucina, if she appeared as either herself or a Marth alt]]. It would be better to have them as separate characters and include a few easter eggs for when they're fighting together, same as with the Star Fox characters.
** '''Donny'''
*** He will appear as a LethalJokeCharacter. Like [[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]] from ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', he starts off weak but can level up the more he fights. He starts off as a weak Villager, but levels up to a Mercenary, and finally into a Hero.
** '''Lyndis'''
*** Mostly because that would be kickass.She could play as another speedster type with unique counter type move and an attack based on her critical.

** '''Louie'''
*** Maybe as a Ryu and Ken to Olimar? His Final Smash could summon the Titan Dweevil, with him at the helm.
** '''Alph, Brittany, or Charlie'''
*** One of the three captains from ''Pikmin 3'' will be a playable character. But to help separate them from Olimar, only they can use Rock and Winged Pikmin. Only Olimar can use White and Purple. Both can use Red, Yellow, and Blue.

** '''Pico'''
*** Alien turtle hit man who wields pistols GunsAkimbo and was in the first game, why not? He also has an assault rifle.
** '''Deathborn'''
*** The biggest bad the series has that could still be reasonably playable; he bosses Black Shadow around.
** '''Zoda'''
*** Has led multiple invasion attempts on Earth, is something of a standout villain that rules another planet, and is implied to be some kind of scientist.
** '''Don Genie'''
*** He is an arms dealer. That's good enough by itself.
** '''Samurai Goroh'''
*** He's one of the most recognizable racers, and he was an Assist Trophy in Brawl. ...How the hell had he not been mentioned first?
** '''Black Shadow'''
*** The series villain.

** '''Krystal'''
*** With her staff, and the move-set from Star Fox Adventures, she would be more unique as a fighter than most other potential Star Fox characters. This would help even out the gender ratio as well.
** There are other series with staff users less represented than Star Fox and plenty of females. No, there is only one recognizable Star Fox character left who can bring something unique to Smash Bros, only one has the brains, our favorite uncle '''Andross'''!
*** ...He's a '''floating head, hands, and brain'''. How the hell could
*** By hovering across the ground and having a floaty jump like Mewtwo...wait
** '''Leon'''
*** He could have {{Hollywood Chameleon}} powers, turning invisible for certain moves (it could even be hand waved as sufficiently advanced technology, given the setting) and have a tongue whip attack and tether grapple. Oh, and demon sniper!

** '''Ninten'''
*** He's the only main character from the trilogy we are missing as a playable character.
*** Potential for a unique moveset based on buffs and shields, given his lack of offensive psi. Recovery move can be 4th-D Slip, Side Special can be PSI QuickUp, like Ike's Quick Draw but with a combo at the end, etc. Also, he can use a boomerang at one point in the game, if this troper recalls correctly.
** '''Poo'''
*** Poo's only weapon in the game, the Sword of Kings, could allow him to mix PSI and swordplay together.
** '''The Masked Man''' /[[spoiler: Claus]]
*** His sword moves make him stand out. Also, it would be interesting if Lucas came back...
** '''Porky'''
*** A major villain in both VideoGame/{{EarthBound}} and [[spoiler: VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}]]. This makes him pretty important to the series as well as giving him relevance to both Ness and [[spoiler: Lucas]], two characters in Brawl. His inclusion would also add more villains to the line-up and show people that the MOTHER series is more than just psychic kids.
*** He's pretty pathetic on his own, admittedly, but his character has always relied on others or piloted machines to fight for him. So he could possibly pilot a mech and send out Pokey-bots like his boss form in the last game or [[spoiler: Pigmasks]]. He could also have a slew of technology-based attacks. He changes appearance pretty often during the series, allowing for plenty of ContinuityPorn in the form of alternate colors/costumes. There's his over-alps with white T-shirt look, his Black and Red pinstripe suit look ([[spoiler: he could be given blue skin in this costume as a reference to the final battle]]) and his [[spoiler: old, sickly, bed-ridden MOTHER 3 look.]]

** VideoGame/GoldenSun
*** '''Isaac''': is the main character of the first game. His adept powers, dijini attacks, summons, class changing, items, and weapon unleashes would help him stand out from the other swordsmen. DishingOutDirt is something no playable fighter in Smash currently specializes in and all the main characters of Golden Sun (so far) do in their default class. Already in as an assist.
*** '''Felix''': is the main character of the second game and can turn into sand, something Isaac cannot do.
*** '''Matthew''': Same reason for Isaac, adept powers, dijini attacks, summons, class changing, items, weapons, and what Not.
*** Or he can replace Isaac's Assist Trophy.
*** Let's let the other elements have some fun. Right '''[[WellIntentionedExtremist Sa]][[PlayingWithFire tu]][[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons ros]]'''? '''[[CuteMonsterGirl Sve]][[BlowYouAway ta]]'''? '''''[[TheChessmaster A]][[MakingASplash L]][[AnIcePerson E]][[TheUnfought X]]?'''''
** SinAndPunishment
*** '''Saki''': His international debut was practically in Smash Bros. Of the first game's player characters, he's the only one who transforms or displays other weird powers.
*** '''Achi''': She's the only one to play an active role in both games. It would be hard to give her a faithful move set that did not give away the plot, but ''Sin and Punishment'''s selling point is being a frantic shooter, so knowing the plot wouldn't spoil that and Achi could fill move slots easily.
*** '''Isa''': He's not as quite versatile as Achi but has enough move set potential, more than Saki has. Furthermore, he was the real protagonist of the second game, the other kid was just along for the ride.
** VideoGame/StarTropics, '''Mike Jones''', '''Zoda'''
*** Mike, the hero, would come first obviously, and then his villain maybe, after him. Mike has many weapons to use and a psychic shock wave. Zoda's final clone has enough unique moves to bring to the Smash Bros. series, but could also adopt some elements of Mewtwo's style of game play so Pokémon would stop being made to fit it.
** EternalDarkness, '''Alexandra Roivas''' or '''Pious Augustus'''
*** Probably too similar to have both of them, but they managed to make Lucas and Ness different enough, both isn't impossible. Being from Metal Gear Solid, Snake opened up the possibility for M rated franchises. Alex has an enchanted shotgun, pistol, and throwing gladius. Pious is a LargeHam and has a bone staff.
**** Movesets could include summoning monsters or using spells. Their final smash could be summoning an Ancient or causing a Sanity Effect.
** PunchOut '''Little Mac'''
*** Punch Out is a long running series and considered a classic. '''Little Mac''' would probably be enough by himself but another reoccurring boxer like '''Mr. Sandman''' or '''Bald Bull''' might not hurt... '''Mike Tyson''' for nostalgia? As of February 13, 2013, Little Mac is confirmed for Super Smash Bros. 4.
*** Even if [[PlayerVersusPlayer Giga Mac]] showed up, there are some reoccurring boxers like '''Great Tiger''' or '''King Hippo''' that might be different enough to squeeze in.
*** '''Doc Louis'''. He invented the Star Punch.
*** '''King Hippo'''. He will be a member of TheRemnant organization "Neo-Subspace Army" led by Mother Brain in the 4th Super Smash Bros. game.
**** King Hippo and Eggplant Wizard working as Mother Brain's cohorts? [[WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster I'm sensing a pattern here.]]
*** '''Aran Ryan'''
**** This guy is a complete lunatic, so seeing him in a fighting game would be hilarious.
** VideoGame/CustomRobo
*** '''Ray''' for being the first of the mascot robots, '''Ray 01''' for being the most popular of the mascot robots and the first to make it overseas, or '''Ray MK III''' for being the latest one. They all sport bombs, guns, and satellite weapons not used by anyone else so far and would come with the series's wacky stages.
** NintendoWars
*** You could have a commanding officer with moves based around their supports ('''Andy''' with blow torches and nail guns because he repairs stuff, for example) or even a generic grunt (using ''VideoGame/BattalionWars'' weapons maybe) or mix the two somehow. All sorts of stage and final smash possibilities too.
*** '''Kaiser Vlad''', any '''Solar empress''' or '''solar grunt''' could be a Qa-Len's staff bearer too if ''Battalion Wars'' didn't have enough weapons already.
** {{Excite}}
*** Specifically from the bot racing game. They would be highly unorthodox between the transforming, dart throwing, poker playing, and butterfly catching already, but a large character with a running speed comparable to Sonic the Hedgehog would be interesting. '''Frog''', '''Bat''', and '''Beetle''' are the defaults, so likely one of them. Ivysaur has opened the door for non bipeds and non humanoids.
** {{Cubivore}}
*** No references to the game in Brawl, but Alpha has a trophy in Melee. The player character would be the best choice as '''Chicky''' from the bird run after becoming the killer cubivore. He could use the most powerful mutations for his attacks and use the boss's specials too, as he could be handwaved as being able to use them after taking the final boss's title.
** Wii Games, '''Mii'''
*** They can be Custom Characters with some of their own abilities, like Swordplay (for close-range), Archery (for long-range,) and using Jetpack (for its Up move).
*** If not, they can replace the Fighting Alloy Team. (And be Called ''Fighting Mii Team'')
** VideoGame/{{Arcana}}, '''Rooks'''
*** He's the main character of the game. Not likely to be a first choice, as his moves may be too similar to the more recent and more successful Golden Sun characters and he's another swordsman. His moves are not identical, though, and his greater focus on cards could have him play differently enough to be the Golden Sun character's old school counterpart. If nothing else, Rimsala has a wicked enough design to justify being a boss.
** VideoGame/KabukiQuantumFighter, '''Colonel Scott O'Connor'''
*** Everyone's forgot about it, but his game did end on a sequel hook. No one else in Smash Bros so far attacks with their hair, and if they play up the bizarre parts of him enough, maybe he could get a virtual console sequel?
** Joy Mech Fight, '''Sukapon'''
*** It was a fighting game on the Famicom, not released outside of Japan, but Sukapon had fairly strong demand to be in Brawl in Japan. Sora said at the time they couldn't figure out how to do a FloatingLimbs character. Since they've had plenty of time since to think about it, Sukapon could appear in a future title.
** TheLegendaryStarfy
*** '''Starfy''' has already appeared as an assist trophy and could possibly have a moveset to work with.
** Videogame/ProWrestling
*** A fighting game that hasn't had any references in Super Smash Bros but lines from it are [[AWinnerIsYou quoted]] in other Nintendo games. '''Great Puma''', '''Giant Panther''', '''Amazon''', is there a reason anyone from that game couldn't work?
** VideoGame/{{Geist}}
*** Tabuu looks too much like a Geist ghost, either it was planned from the start as some kind of {{foreshadowing}} or someone at Nintendo will notice the similarities and that will put thoughts in people's heads. At the very least, '''John Raimi''''s ghost would be an interesting assist, but his human form has more than enough to work with to be playable in a Smash Bros game. There are some multiplayer stages that would translate well into Smash Bros. stages too.
*** As an Assist Trophy, he could either possesses an enemy and fight the other opponents with you, or attempt to force the possessed enemy to KO themselves. Either way, the possessed will still have some control left over their characters and can break free of his control.
** ''VideoGame/{{Xenoblade}}''
*** If Operation Rainfall puts its money where its mouth is, main character '''Shulk''' may become playable to further cash in on it. His abilities are better for an assist trophy but he could be playable with some creativity. There are lots of swordsmen to compete with but unless you believe AllSwordsAreTheSame his might be different enough, he'd be able to swing two extendable {{Laser Blade}}s after grabbing a beam sword.
*** Or just skip the main character and choose someone who does have abilities with obvious use in a fighting game, '''Dunban'''. [[RunningGag He can replace Ike]].
** VideoGame/BalloonFight
*** '''Alice''' from BalloonKid, utilizing her balloons to give her extra recovery.
** VideoGame/PanelDePon
*** Either '''Lip''' or '''Furil''', because we haven't had enough PDP around lately (or at all, if you're American or European). She'd fit the nostalgia theme of the game well considering the series has been around for seventeen years, at least. Since the Lip's Stick is already an item, flowers, block-dropping, and maybe panels would be incorporated into her attacks.
*** Lip's stick could easy be replaced by another bludgeon item, one with a similar effect or something completely new yet equally wacky (Another Panel De Pon tool even).
*** This is true, though you have to consider that Kirby has a similar case with the Star Rod.
** Space Demon
*** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up. The demon could call on space fighters, spiders and fragmentation bombs for special attacks and even summon the space Firebirds. (or failing playable character, a surprise boss)
** VideoGame/MoleMania
*** Shigeru Miyamoto wanting it is good enough for some kind of mention in the future. But if the Ice Climbers can get a playable spot, '''Muddy''' could get one too. He can roll bombs or cannon balls, do suplex-like standing throws and no one else has mole claws.
** VideoGame/JettRocket
*** '''Jett''' would be amazing character. He has his Dash attack, his Dive attack, his Jetpack, and various vehicles like the Jetski, Hoverboard, and Parachute. He can also throw bombs and has various sidekicks like Chiefo and Rudolpho the dolphin. Plenty of things to make a moveset with.
** VideoGame/TheLastStory
*** Given the competition, main character '''Zael''' would most likely be an assist character but as a playable fighter, he has a shot at replacing Young/Toon Link. He has a sword, can wall jump, shoots a crossbow and could even use bombs if Sora so pleased. He would still be more distinct as other moves would have to be used in place of the boomerang and triforce slash.
** Tomato Adventure
*** Some of '''[=DeMille's=]''' requests interested Sakurai during the polling, so it is likely the game will get referenced in the future and [=DeMille=] might even become playable. He may need to be toned down a little since he seems to mostly fight at range but his gimmicks could still be interesting.
** VideoGame/{{Pandoras Tower| Until I Return To Your Side}}
*** '''Aeron''' is fairly manly compared to a lot of other RPG choices, wields multiple weapons in ways not seen by any of the current fighters even when there is overlap, has a couple interesting final smash options thanks to cut scenes and multiple charge combos.
** ''VideoGame/NazoNoMurasameJo''
*** '''Takamaru'''
**** It's obligatory for Smash Bros. to include a "Japan only" character. Ever since Marth lost this title, Takamaru could easily fit the bill. His series was also represented in ''Nintendo Land'', so he's still relevant.
** Mach Rider
*** He had a trophy in Melee that seemed more detailed than most, and much like the Ice Climbers, he had only appeared in a single game, and since they managed to make the Ice Climbers work, Mach still might have a chance. They could be creative with his moveset, giving him things like a [[WhipItGood chain whip]], a laser blaster, and grenades. His Final Smash could be of him hopping on his [[CoolBike motorcycle]] and riding around the stage, shooting the other players up.
** ''VideoGame/KungFuMaster''
*** '''Thomas''' from Kung Fu Master. He's a martial arts master so the moveset pretty much written for him. His final smash could be flooding the stage, drowning everyone [[SuperNotDrowningSkills except him]], which would allow him to fight other players for a short period of time without any competition.
** ''VideoGame/AnotherCode''
*** '''Ashley Robins''' - While not as obscure as WiiFit Trainer, she'd still be interesting.
** ''Franchise/ProfessorLayton''
*** '''Professor Layton''' himself. I'm honestly quite surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet. He's a been a DS mainstay for a long time, and would have an interesting puzzle based moveset. If Phoenix Wright can be a fighter in MvC3, there's no reason a sleuth like Layton can't in SSB.
*** Does Nintendo own Layton? His games are DS exclusive but Nintendo is not the sole publisher.
** ''CookingMama''
*** Cooking Mama herself, because another female Smasher with a weird fighting style, and [[UnexpectedCharacter unexpectedness abound]].
** VideoGame/{{Pushmo}}
*** Pushmo has gotten fairly popular as a downloadable eShop title, especially because of its LevelEditor. '''Mallo''' could be a MightyGlacier working with grab attacks, allowing him to continuously pierce shields.
** Videogame/FossilFighters
*** '''Dynal''', being an antagonist in the first game, a bonus boss in the next and for being a flying sauropod with an antimatter beam.

[[WMG: Super Smash Bros 4 will have more fanservice]]
* Super Smash Bros already had some fanservice because of Snake's butt and Samus's butt and Peach using her butt for some of her attacks, plus her breasts were upgraded in Brawl compared to Melee. Plus now we might have guest fighters from Teen or M rated titles. With the art director of Soul Calibur working on this game, some fanservice increase could happen, but with some restraint and not going too overboard, just enough to meet Nintendo's standards for what's okay but still pushing the envelope.

[[WMG: [[BatenKaitos Kalas]] will join the... whatever it is this time.]]
The ownership of BK isn't clear from a quick check (though Monolith's website shows very BK3 images), but Nintendo was very heavily involved, and with Monolith being one of the major contributors to Brawl and consider BK very important to them. Plus he could have an interesting role in any story modes, either recognizing the face behind Master/Crazy Hand (see up) or the whole [[spoiler:is actually TheMole despite being the main character]].

[[WMG: A Primid will be a playable character.]]
Something of a meta extension to the previous WMG, if there is a Smash Bros exclusive character, it will be a Primid [[MythologyGag and his different colorations will be different colors/shapes of his eyes.]]
* Problem is, just changing the eyes won't make it easy to tell two different Primids apart in-game.

[[WMG: There will be a character who is a DittoFighter.]]
And each time he's KO'd, he changes his fighting style.

[[WMG: There will be an SSB game where you can play a character from AnimalCrossing.]]
The AC franchise is extremely popular in both Asia and the US, and the game has been referenced several times in SSB before. Mr. Resetti can be summoned, there's a pitfall item, there's an AC battle stage, and there are plenty of pieces of music from AC as well. The playable character would possibly be Tom Nook or KK Slider.
** So far, the "Villager" from Animal Crossing is confirmed.

[[WMG: {{Shantae}} will be a playable character in the next SSB.]]
The character has a small but dedicated following, and with a new downloadable sequel and possibly a Wii U title coming out in the future, it would be a great way to publicize her. She already has a good set of attacks. She would have her hair whip, and of course, her belly dances to put her into different forms.

[[WMG: A character who is well known in the West but obscure in Japan will be in the next Smash]]
This is so that fans outside of Japan will be shown appreciation by the developers, [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros especially after mentioning so many Japanese exclusive titles in the last few SSB's that most people outside of Japan haven't heard before.]] A good character related to this is mentioned above.

[[WMG: [=SSB4=] will have a DanceBattler]]
Since the fourth game is going to have [[WiiFit a character who fights by striking Yoga poses]], a character who fights by ''dancing'' would definitely work as well. I can think of two possible choices for a DanceBattler...
#Jimmy T. from WarioWare
#Ryuta Ippongi from VideoGame/OsuTatakaeOuendan
* I can think of another possible (and first party) contender, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Olivia]].

[[WMG: Meta Knight will return for [=SSB4=], but nerfed]]
He's too iconic for both his home series and the SSBB tournament scene to leave out, especially since King Dedede has been confirmed at time of posting. Every Smash Bros sequel has had an insanely useful competitive character return in a nerfed form from the previous game: in ''Melee'' it was Pikachu, and in ''Brawl'' it was Captain Falcon. Meta Knight will now hover around the B/C tiers rather than SS.

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[[WMG: [[SoulSeries Nightmare]] may be playable in the next SSB.]]
After all, Link appeared in ''SoulCaliburII''. It'd be a hell of a lot cooler than PacMan as a Namco rep, that's for sure.
* Link went to the Soul Calibur world because of Soul Edge threatning Hyrule, so Soul Edge could be a threat to the SSB world.
** Voldo's movements are pretty wild, as is Ivy's whip-sword. Though the bondage gear might have to be toned down, at least for the default costumes.

[[WMG: VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia characters will get in SSB4.]]
* Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World are one of the few games that are on a Nintendo console. Lloyd is well known character as a result and will most likely get in given that Namco is working with Project Sora on the game. Alternatively, they might also pick a second character like Emil from the sequel or go with the EnsembleDarkHorse of the franchise Kratos, Sheena or Zelos (for the first game) or Richter and Alice (for the second game).
** Other Tales representatives could include [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Cress]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Luke]], or [[VideoGame/TalesOfGraces Asbel]].

[[WMG: VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} will be selected if Pac-Man isn't.]]
He's a platformer/mascot-ish character, so he'd fit in pretty well.

[[WMG: PacMan will be a playable character]]
* It may almost be a given, but it might as well be listed; the PacManWorld games would help to bolster his moveset.
** There's also the sheer awesomeness of making Pac-Man fight Game & Watch.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/DigDug Taizo Hori]] ]]
* He's nearly as iconic as PacMan in regards to Namco, and he could utilize his drill and pump.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi Mishima]]]]
* Namco likes putting him in as much games as they can, including crossovers within their own properties and other companies.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/KatamariDamacy The Prince]]]]
* Katamari-based combat would be pretty fun, and it'd open up things for the KingOfAllCosmos to be an assist/distraction/what-have-you. His costumes could either be random Presents or some of the other cousins.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga Gilgamesh]] ]]
* He's practically a secondary mascot for Namco, along with Pac-Man. Also, admit it... [[CoolVsAwesome Gil vs. Link would be badass]].

[[WMG: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_no_Densetsu Valkyrie]]]]
* Along with Pac-Man, Dig Dug, and Gil, she too is practically a mascot for Namco, but her first game was on the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_no_B%C5%8Dken:_Toki_no_Kagi_Densetsu Famicom!]] She's practically as much Nintendo as Mega Man is.

[[WMG: Nintendo and Namco are plotting something related to a Soulcalibur character joining]]
* It is pretty obvious that everybody knows about the Gamecube version of Soulcalibur 2 being the most successful mainly due to Link being a GuestFighter. That being said, it seems suspicious of Namco to NOT port the HD Online version of Soulcalibur 2 to the Wii U and write it off as "lack of demand." Now consider that Namco is assisting Nintendo with the new Smash Bros. game. It could be possible that Namco would "conveniently" announce an HD version for the Wii U ([[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny the desire ton finally see Link go up against]] [[{{Tekken}} Heihachi]] and {{Spawn}} aside) ALONG with an announcement of a Namco representative in the new Smash Bros. game. Granted, it could be any Namco character (Mario vs. Sonic vs. Mega Man vs. Pac-Man anyone?), but considering Soulcalibur 2's place in Nintendo's history...

Factor in characters' fighting styles, personalities and popularity, odds are we might see Nightmare.

[[WMG: [[Franchise/WonderMomo Wonder Momo]] ]]
With Namco-Bandai trying to revive the series, this would be the perfect way to drum up interest.

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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]] will be in the fourth game...]]
...where he will be voiced by [[Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily Matthew]] [[PhoenixWrightMusicalProject Taranto]].

I literally cannot think of even ''one'' reason why this wouldn't be awesome as hell.
* He's gonna be in ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', so it seems like an inevitability for him to be in SSB4.
** I wouldn't say that Phoenix Wright is inevitable. Mega Man's already confirmed for SSB4, possibly being the main Capcom representative, and Wright's appearance in ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' would actually decrease his chances of getting in, since he's already had time in the fighting game spotlight. Still, I also wouldn't say he's impossible. The Ace Attorney series has mostly stayed on Nintendo consoles (I say "mostly", because the three first games have gotten PC and mobile phone ports), and there's no rule preventing two third-party characters from the same company getting in the same game.

[[WMG: DonaldDuck will be in [=SSB4=]]]
The developers said they were interested in having Capcom characters, and Capcom was responsible for a lot of Disney's games! Of course, Donald's Final Smash would be an epic tantrum!
* [[{{Dolan}} Accualy Dolan]]

[[WMG: Mega Man]]
* And Dr. Wily.
** Dr. Wily's more likely to be a boss, but Bass could work as a playable character.
* Honestly, I don't see why Mega Man won't be in, unless Capcom doesn't give permission for Nintendo to use one of their characters. He's got a massive number of weapons that could be used for moves (the Mega Buster, Rush Adapters, and at least 86 boss weapons (8 from Mega Man 2-10 and Mega Man and Bass, plus the original 6, plus any other ones that I might have missed), he's an iconic figure (he was Capcom's mascot at one point - not so sure about now) who played a large role in Nintendo history (the classic Mega Man, at least, is basically synonymous with the NES), and it would help to [[WinBackTheCrowd restore some of the public's faith in Capcom]] after some of their controversial decisions as of late. At the very least, you'd think it would make up for Mega Man's blatant exclusion from [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 MvC3]]. Sure, most of Mega Man's attacks are projectile-based, but if they can come up with a moveset for Captain Falcon, they can make the Robot Master weapons work in Smash Bros.
* Confirmed. Megaman will be playable in Smash 4. Along with a set of weapons and the [[VideoGame/MegaMan Yellow]] [[ThatOneBoss Devil]]!

[[WMG: [[{{Okami}} Amaterasu]] will be in the next SSB game.]]
She would be an interesting character to play due to her diverse range of abilities and weapons. Amaterasu has already been made into a fighting game character in VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3, so the developers could use that as another basis for her moveset. {{Okami}} is a highly praised Capcom game that had a [[{{Okamiden}} sequel]] released recently, and [[http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=114836 there's talk that Sakurai may team up with Capcom for SSB4]], so there's a decent possibility that this could happen.

[[WMG: [[MegaManX X and Zero]] will appear in SSB4]]
Sure, Sakurai may have a [[MemeticMutation reputation]] as a TrollingCreator, but he did say he wanted to see Capcom characters appear. Given how X never got put in Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, Sakurai'd probably like to throw his fans a bone and include him AND Zero.

[[WMG:[[StreetFighter Ryu]] and Ken will appear.]]
* Also, maybe Chun-Li and [[JokeCharacter Dan]].

[[WMG: VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} [[MemeticMutation won't be dead]].]]
* [[CatGirl Felicia]] and [[HornyDevils Morrigan]] would be the most likely candidates (and sadly, would be [[{{Bowdlerization}} toned down considerably]]. Alternatively, [[EnsembleDarkhorse Jon Talbain]] could appear to round things out.
** Pyron's particle effects would look amazing with the new graphics.
*** Felicia and Morrigan (or even Li Li or Q-Bee or Lilith) might not be toned down, since it'd finally give SSB a real reason for the Teen rating unlike all the other games. Plus we already have Snake and Samus's butts.
** Not sure about Felicia, but Morrigan seems to have a knack for appearing in crossover games. In fact, Morrigan's probably appeared more times in crossover games (the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'', ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom vs. SNK]]'', ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'' and ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', ''VideoGame/CrossEdge'', and even ''VideoGame/SuperPuzzleFighterIITurbo'') than she has in her own series (though to be fair, there are only about three games in her series). Even though at the time of this edit, Mega Man has been confirmed for the fourth game, it wouldn't be surprising if Morrigan was added in as well just for the hell of it.

[[WMG:Leon S. Kennedy will be in to represent [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 RE4]].]]
* Resident Evil 4 was considered a big reason to own the Gamecube back in the day. If Snake's license doesn't get renewed for the new game, then there's a chance Leon could replace him and take over his moveset. Even if Snake returns, Leon could get in as a Luigi/Wolf/Lucas/Ganondorf-style clone counterpart to Snake.

[[WMG:ViewtifulJoe will be in the game.]]
* His series was intended to be Nintendo exclusive, and the first game remains one of the most critically acclaimed for the Gamecue to this day. Also, he's got a lot of moves that could fit in well with the Smash formula.

[[WMG:[[GhostsNGoblins Sir Arthur will be in the game.]]]]
* GhostsAndGoblins has been on many Nintendo platforms. Arthur has a decent enough amount of weapons to make a moveset. If he were to get in, Firebrand could be an Assist Trophy.

[[WMG:Mike Haggar will be in the game.]]
* FinalFight helped the SNES, and it would be interesting to have a primary grappler in Smash Bros.

[[WMG:[[DeadRising Frank West]] will be in the game.]]
* Because this is the TvTropes WMG page, where every freaking idea will come into play, for no particular reason.

[[WMG:[[VideoGame/GhostTrick Sissel]]]]
Of course, him appearing as a playable character might be a bit problematic as they entail some massive spoilers for that game... [[spoiler: Since the red suited guy on the cover ''isn't actually Sissel''.]] He might make an interesting assist trophy though.

[[AC:New Characters: (Sega)]]

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/NiGHTSIntoDREAMS NiGHTS]] ]]

He would work well as an assist trophy. He can use his paraloops and masks in his moveset.
* Uh... The fact that [=NiGHTS=] ''never'' touches the ground -- and, indeed, can fly around freely within the game's 2D plane -- would make him a ''very'' poor choice for a playable character.

[[WMG: Miles Prower]]
With his tail attacks, he would be pretty cool.
* You forget the helicopter tails flight and his skills as a mechanic (he used a lot of gadgets to fight in ''SonicBattle'' -- there's no reason for him not to in SSB).

[[WMG: [[{{VideoGame/Bayonetta}} Bayonetta]] ]]

With the fact that the sequel will be a WiiU exclusive, Nintendo themselves is publishing and developing it hands on, the creator of Bayonetta himself interested with the idea of the titular character in Smash Bros, and Sakurai was caught inside PlatinumGames HQ, the possibility of Bayonetta being in Smash 4 seems very likely. Also, who wouldn't want to see [[CoolVsAwesome Pit fighting Bayonetta]] in a Smash Bros setting?

[[WMG: [[BillyHatcherAndTheGiantEgg Billy Hatcher]] ]]
Could be easily be a cameo or given an assist trophy for appearing on the Gamecube.

[[WMG: [[AlexKidd Alex Kidd]] ]]
Either as an assist trophy or a Guest Fighter.

[[WMG: [[{{VideoGame/Vectorman}} Vectorman]] ]]
Even I will admit that it's a long shot since Vectorman hasn't had any games in years, but he does have the advantage of already having a move-set that fits in with Smash Bros like a glove.


[[WMG:[[SambaDeAmigo Amigo]]]]
He'll be a DanceBattler.

[[AC:New Characters (Other Third Party)]]
[[WMG:[[Franchise/TombRaider Lara Croft]] will guest star]]

I don't know what her moves would be, but her role in the story mode would be cool and her partner in in the story will be VideoGame/{{Kirby}}. Here's an idea for the way they meet: Kirby, who has been looking for his lost warp star because he lost it earlier in the story, will be captured, then later an alarm goes off beacause Lara has broken in. She is looking for an artifact, and Kirby, who has broken out, is found by a guard, who aims at him, but Lara pulls a ClickHello and saves him. They escape, and later Kirby will return the favor.
* [[{{Newgrounds}} Perfect Kirby]] with Lara Croft in the place of [[PerfectDark Joanna Dark]]? Sounds interesting, if a bit implausible.

[[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} Simon Belmont]] ]]
''Castlevania'' is popular and Simon was in the NES ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania|I}}'' game -- arguably [[FirstInstallmentWins the most iconic of the series]].
* As of 11 June 2013, '''''THIS MUST HAPPEN!!!''''' With Mega Man and Pit in the newest installments of Smash Bros., Simon's the only one missing from [[MythologyGag The Original]] [[WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster N-Team]]. (Bonus points if King Hippo comes in from Videogame/PunchOut. Double Bonus if Eggy and Mother Brain are in as well.)
** A more specific guess: If Simon Belmont is a fighter, his reveal video will have him facing off against Link, Samus, Pit, and Takamaru. Why those four specifically? ''TheLegendOfZelda, {{Metroid}}, KidIcarus, Nazo No Murasamejou'', and ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' were the first five games to be created exclusively for the Famicom Disk System.

[[WMG: If Solid Snake is any indication...]]

We might be lucky to get another unexpected third party character in the next Smash Bros. Personally, [[MightyKombat my]] vote is for [[FatalFury Geese Howard]], [[TalesofSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld Emil Castagnier]], and [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante]]. Well, hey, they let Snake in, and Metal Gear isn't exactly family friendly.
* Suda51 has stated that he wants to see [[NoMoreHeroes Travis Touchdown]] in the next [[http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/07/suda_51_id_love_travis_touchdown_to_star_in_smash_bros Smash Bros.]]

[[WMG:[[NoMoreHeroes Travis Touchdown]] will appear in the next Smash Bros. game]]
Travis' fighting style makes sense (somewhat) with the Smash Bros. universe, since the combination of beam katanas and professional wrestling moves are pretty CrazyAwesome already. He could probably take Snake's place if does appear, since it's overkill to have two Rated R game characters in a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids supposedly "child-friendly" environment.]] Here are some ideas for his appearance:
* As stated above, Travis would utilize his beam katana attacks for his main fighting style, preferably using the Blood Berry or Tsubaki Mk. III for fighting. He could use his wrestling moves for his throws, although I believe that Nintendo's going to have to implement a system that would allow a lot of his throws to be included. His death blows could be used as Smash Attacks. Personally, I would want to make sure that Travis' fighting style still retains its brutality, as opposed to the tame Nintendo cast.
* He could use his ChargedAttack and his step-in slice for his standard and side special. The [[FlashStep Dark Step]] technique would be his down special while for his up special.... I'm sure Suda51 has something in mind for that.
* [[LimitBreak Dark]] [[SuperMode Side]] mode could be used as his Final Smash. The roulette can be used to determine a different attack (from slowing down time and increasing damage, to the sacred [[OneHitKO Anarchy in the Galaxy]]).

[[WMG: Killer7]]

The Killer7 crew would make for an awesome cast. They are sort of a cult hit and showed up on both the Gamecube and PS2. With the Smiths you can switch between 7 or more personals for several different playstyles and insane gameplay.

[[WMG: Alternatively, [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed Ezio Auditore]] or [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Raiden]] will replace Snake.]]
Both Ezio and Snake possess a lot of weapons and gadgets at their disposal. Plus, both Konami and Ubisoft are close with each other (just look at the various Franchise/MetalGear[=/=]Franchise/AssassinsCreed crossovers), Kojima could recommend Ezio as a new character. On the other hand, Raiden in '''Revengeance''' seems to fit the fantasy setting of Smash Bros. as well.
* Given that Raiden's in VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale, that seems unlikely -- I don't see why they'd put the same character in both games, particularly when Raiden's never been on a Nintendo system.

[[WMG: Square Enix wants Sora from KingdomHearts to be in the next Super Smash Bros.]]
First: They are developing KH parts for the Nintendo systems, even though most of the KH fans are Sony Fanboys, therefore it would not make much sense to develop the games for Nintendo systems otherwise. Second, just look at Sora's fighting style in [=KH2=]! He fights just like a Super Smash Bros character, and has loads and loads of additional costumes to use (Plus his Final Form would make an awesome Final Smash. It even has "Final" in the name!) He has enough abilities and magic to pick from for his moveset and his voice samples would go great in Brawl. Also, his coliseum-tournament-victory poses look a lot like Brawl victory poses.
No doubt that Square Enix wanted to make him as Brawl compatible as possible. And if even Solid Snake made it in the game with a lot of begging...
* I'd play that game! But why not add in some of his abilities from KH1, or coded?
* Remember that Kingdom Hearts 2 came out in 2006, well before Brawl.
** But Brawl was announced in 2005.
* Sora had victory poses back in Kingdom Hearts I.

[[WMG: One of the third party characters in [=SSB4=] will be a Lego Mini-figure, complete with Lego City stage.]]

Nintendo made an awfully big deal about securing that exclusive, it would make sense to tie it in to the other game they've announced.
** Lego VideoGame/SuperSmashBros EasterEgg, perhaps?
** OH CRAP, MAKE THIS HAPPEN NINTENDO!
** Specifically, it will be Chase [=McCain=], star of ''LEGO City Undercover''.

[[WMG: Project Sora (SSB's developer) and Nintendo will push for as many third party characters as possible.]]
As said above, VideoGame/SuperSmashBros generates publicity for various games on the console. Since Creator/{{Nintendo}}, learning from their past mistakes from the [[{{Nintendo64}} N64]] to the {{Wii}}, is looking to court as much third party support as possible, they will try to get as much third party support as they can so that their games will sell well and the WiiU will be established as a strong contender with third parties.
* [[http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4 Quite the opposite]] -- Sakurai stated that he doesn't want to throw in too many third party characters.

[[WMG: [=SSB4=] will reveal the person behind the hands...]]
[[spoiler:It turns out, it's you! Using the picture it asked you to take for your profile. Both systems do have a camera...]]
* If this happens, Ness, Wario (If he can be bothered to remember an insignificant employee like that), [[FireEmblemElibe Hector/Eliwood/Lyn]] (if present), and Kalas (who would have some reaction to a severe case of [[spoiler:role reversal]]) would be the ones to recognize the face.
* I always thought the hands were either Andross or Wham Bam Rock.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Neku]] ]]
* There are plenty of powers via pins, and he would fit in well, especially since his CharacterDevelopment in [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou TWEWY]].

[[WMG:Snake will not return in the next game and will be replaced by another 3rd party character.]]

My guess either Pac-Man or VideoGame/MegaMan
** Are you kidding me? Snake's one of the most popular characters, and he's getting a game on 3DS (sort of). He's practically a shoe-in. And so far, they've only ditched clones (except for Mewtwo, but that was probably for marketing reasons).
*** [[http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Les_Enfants_Terribles Only cut clones you say]]...
*** Mewtwo's a literal clone as well.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/CaveStory Quote]] will be playable in [=SSB4=]]]
One of the most popular [=WiiWare=] and [=DSiWare=] titles, and there's the remake on the 3DS as well! Plus it avoids the complications of dealing with Capcom to negotiate to use Mega Man, as they're fairly similar. I imagine most of his attacks could be with the Blade and his specials could be various guns (Neutral is Polar Star, Side is Fireball, Up is Machine Gun, and Down is something else). Curly could either be an assist trophy or a reskin of him. Because of this he would probably be completely mute, so as to avoid recording voices twice.

[[WMG: Non video game characters will appear in SSB 4]]
Likely candidates include Manga/{{Naruto}}, WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants, [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]], Franchise/{{Batman}}, and SpiderMan.
* As much as the thought of Naruto spamming "[[MostAnnoyingSound BELIEVE IT]]" taunts in the next SSB makes me shudder, this is a possibility, especially with Naruto and other ShonenJump characters. After all, Nintendo themselves published the ''JumpSuperStars'' series; we could get [[OnePiece Luffy]], Naruto, and [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]] (and SuperSmashFlash will become HilariousInHindsight). Hopefully they'll make [[Manga/DeathNote Light Yagami]] playable or something to balance out the hyperactive loudmouthed annoyingness.
* Alternatively, they could include SpiderMan for his roles in the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' games, or Vader for ''[[SoulSeries Soulcalibur IV]]''. Which brings us to...
* Characters from MonsterHigh, WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic, and ScottPilgrim will also appear.
** In the case of the [=FiM=], I'm guessing the initial character for selection would be Twilight Sparkle, with Rainbow Dash as an Assist Trophy.
*** Rainbow Dash should be a character because she would be better to constantly brag about. Oh, and Sonic will be her story mode partner because both are fast and blue.
* Maybe MickeyMouse?
* How about Homestar Runner and/or Strong Bad?
** Hmm! That's actually a mild possibility, considering ''VideoGame/StrongBadsCoolGameForAttractivePeople''.
* Okay Smashers, make way for Duck Dodgers In The 24th And 1/2 Century!

[[WMG: [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Rouge]] will be the last unlockable in Super Smash Bros 4.]]
She was the most major Sonic character without a trophy in Brawl. Silver had an appearance on the Sonic stage, and goddamn 'JET' of all people had a trophy. Rouge only had a sticker. Which one has been more important to the series overall? [[spoiler:It's Rouge]].

[[WMG: Pete from HarvestMoon will appear either as a trophy, a character, or an assist]]
''HarvestMoon'' is a somewhat popular third party series which almost exclusively appears on Nintendo consoles. Pete could certainly have several moves up his sleeve - he's a farmer, after all, so he has a bunch of tools and vegetables. If no HarvestMoon characters pop up as playables I at least expect a trophy.

[[WMG: Skylanders Spyro]]
{{Activision}} wants to milk games as much as possible, so it would be a good idea.

[[WMG: VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}]]
Saturn Bomberman aside, Bomberman's biggest and best games have always been on Nintendo systems, and he's made appearances on every Nintendo console and handheld to date. His cartoony explosives would make a good contrast with Snake's realistic ones (and speaking of Snake, it would be funny to have the two recognize each other from the Dream Mix Tournament). In the story mode, Bomberman could be chasing after Wario as part of an overly-long CallBack gag. He could also draw upon his Charaboms (mainly Pommy) and elemental bombs to compose his moveset, with the Bomber Gear from ''BombermanHero'' filling in the loose slots. Overall, Bomberman strongly deserves a spot on the roster, much moreso than any other third-party character besides Mega Man.

[[WMG: FinalFantasy characters will be included in SSB4]]
The first six Final Fantasy games were released on the NES and SNES, with remakes on the Game Boy Advanced and the DS. In addition, several side games were released on the DS as well.
* As for specific characters... [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII Firion]] might be a good choice, considering his wide range of potential moves. Of course, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' is probably the most popular game in the series on a Nintendo system, so a character from that might be more likely. And then there's the whole ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles'' universe which is entirely specific to Nintendo systems.

[[WMG: The big fanbase-stunning unexpected character for this game will be WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd.]]
* He's a part of gamer culture, and he does specialise in Nintendo games, not to mention he's shown himself to be a capable fighter in some of his videos, with plenty of material for moves. Of course, they'd have to tone down his profanity, but if Snake can get in...

[[WMG: Disney/WreckItRalph]]
* Nintendo was happy enough to lend several of its characters to Disney to cameo in the movie, and if Sega was able to get Ralph to appear in [[SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]], it's not inconceivable for Nintendo to pull off the same thing for Ralph in Smash.
** The only problem I can think of is that he might play too much like Donkey Kong (since Ralph is essentially a Human-esque Donkey Kong already). Now if Vanellope Von Schweetz was a playable character/assist trophy...

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Scribblenauts}} Maxwell]] will be a playable fighter ]]
* Scribblenauts got its first big break on the DS. It would only make sense that Maxwell would be included in SSB4. He could utilize his notebook and make various items for fighting. His melee weapon could be the giant pencil and he could fly around in the purple-winged polka dotted bathtub from his game cover. His final smash could be spawning a T-Rex, or possible [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]. Also, [[EvilTwin Llewxam]] could be a Trophy assist.
** Seriously, think of how completely random his moveset could be. Every attack should just be Maxwell using a different object.
** Either of the above Final Smashes would work, but I doubt they'd use Cthulhu since he's a specific character that didn't originate from a video game. Maxwell riding a T. rex already has some popularity due to the Post 217 meme. There's also the Large Hadron Collider, which would create a black hole that could suck everyone into it, do tons of damage, and then dump them out upon disappearing (sort of like Kirby's final smash).

[[WMG: Franchise/CrashBandicoot]]
* Because so many fans wanted to see him in [[VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale PSASBR]] but were denied (as of now anyway). Nintendo could totally stick it to Sony by announcing him as part of their roster, and maybe just as a added touch reveal him in a trailer featuring Mario and Sonic to give the 90's fans a nice touch of nostalgia: Nintendo vs Sega vs Sony.
** With rumours of a Crash reboot going around, this isn't inconcievable.

[[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Digimon}} Agumon]] will appear. ]]
* If the previous game was able to include [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]], why not Agumon. He would make a pretty good rival to [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]], as Agumon himself is the mascot of his own series. Agumon's Final Smash would be his Mega-digivolved form, Wargreymon.

[[WMG: Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei IV's Main Character/Flynn]]
* With the recent partnership of Nintendo and Atlus of making Shin Megami Tensei x Franchise/{{Fire Emblem}}, it could be put into consideration. Plus the Franchise has been getting a lot of attention in the recent years. Flynn being the protagonist of the latest entry of the main series (which is for the Nintendo 3DS, no less) would be a nice choice, and also to serve as an introduction to the series. Although even if the game has an M-Rating (like Metal Gear Solid) its themes are much more complex and controversial, which could be a reason not to include him.

[[WMG: Blanc from {{Neptunia}} will appear in the newly announced Smash Bros. games]]
* Think about it. She's pretty much the...er...."safest dressed" out any of the Goddesses, and she is the ''physical embodiment of Nintendo''. This would be a great time to add her, especially since Neptunia could do with more recognition, and Blanc, once again being the ''physical embodiment of Nintendo itself'' would be a great addition.

[[WMG: From {{Tecmo}}, ...]]
* Ryu Hyabusa from VideoGame/NinjaGaiden.
* Rygar from VideoGame/Rygar.

[[WMG: {{Popeye}}]]
Remember the arcade classic VideoGame/DonkeyKong? Well, here's a little bit of trivia: ShigeruMiyamoto [[WhatCouldHaveBeen actually conceived it initially as a Popeye video game]] (yes, I'm aware that there ''is'' a [[{{VideoGame/Popeye}} Popeye video game]] that Miyamoto made later, but that isn't the same one). It was his first game ever, and he wanted to make it with Popeye characters (specifically, Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto). However, Nintendo wasn't able to license the characters, so instead, they created {{Expy}}s in their place, resulting in the birth of the Mario/Jumpman and Donkey Kong characters we all know and love(and Pauline, [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome though almost nobody remembers her]], unfortunately). If Nintendo wanted to include a non-video game character into Smash Bros. 4, Popeye would be a good choice since he actually has a bit of history with Nintendo besides just "his game was made by Nintendo".

[[AC: Assist Trophies]]
For characters that should appear but probably don't have any good possible movesets. Make sure to include:
* Game Series
** '''Character Name'''
*** Justification
*** The action(s) the character should perform once it enters the battlefield.

* Franchise/SuperMarioBros, VideoGame/YoshisIsland, VideoGame/WarioLand, VideoGame/WarioWare, and VideoGame/PaperMario
* Franchise/DonkeyKong
** Rambi
*** The player who summoned him could jump onto his back, using him as a mount that could KO enemies with ease with the added bonus of brief invulnerability. The downside to using him would be that he can't double jump.
** Cranky Kong
*** The original Donkey Kong and one of the most memorable characters in the franchise. He would be sort of a joke assist, mainly ranting about video games as in DKC, but would also (as in the WMG above) throw 8-bit items from the original Donkey Kong game at the characters.
* Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda
* VideoGame/KidIcarus
** Eggplant Wizard
*** Probably the most iconic monster in the entire Kid Icarus series due to WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster. He could throw eggplants at the characters, temporarily turning them into walking eggplants (much like in VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising). This would slow down opponents, keep them from using their special or smash moves, and keep them from jumping too high.
* VideoGame/{{Kirby}}
** Galacta Knight
*** Perhaps one of the more iconic Kirby bosses. He will fly around the stage, using his moves from KirbysReturnToDreamland and KirbySuperStar Ultra.
* {{Metroid}}
** [[AnIcePerson Rundas]]
*** He was probably the [[EnsembleDarkhorse most popular]] hunter in Prime 3. He will act similar to [[SinAndPunishment Saki]], except that his shots freeze the opponent. He could also make a wall of ice by shooting at the ground and walls, creating temporary barriers and platforms, which could be broken if hit enough times.
** [[ColdSniper Trace]]
*** He was one of the most overused hunters in Hunters, second only to Sylux. He will hide in the foreground or background (likely the former), attempting to snipe a random opponent as indicated by a [[CrosshairAware red reticle]]. The target can dodge Trace's attacks with decent timing, but the player who summoned Trace can assist him by attacking the opponent while Trace attempts to shoot him.
* FireEmblem
* {{Pikmin}}
** Bumbling Snitchbug
*** An enemy from Pikmin that is one of the few that directly attacks the captain. The Snitchbug could swoop down at characters, grab them, and then toss them into the ground, sending them partially buried like DK's B-down move.
** The Waterwraith
*** An infamous boss from Pikmin 2. When summoned, his stone rollers crash down onto the stage and then the wraith itself comes down. It then rolls around on the stage chasing any fighters. Contact with the rollers does severe damage.
* VideoGame/{{F-Zero}}
* StarFox
* VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}
** Duster
*** Since Lucas is already using Rope Snake as his grab and his other thief tools may not be too handy for typical Smash Bros. special attacks. Once he appears, he can pin down enemies using his wall staples and then attacks any foe that get close enough using various kicks.
* VideoGame/CluCluLand
** Bubbles
*** Nintendo loves including obscure Nintendo characters in the Smash Bros. series, so why not include Bubbles from this arcade classic? She could stun fighters with a Sound Wave and push them off the stage.
* VideoGame/DuckHunt
** The Dog
*** Let's face it, this dog has been [[TheScrappy tormenting gamers for years]]. Why not honour that making him actually assist you? He could throw ducks around, which would then fly around attacking fighters.
*** Or maybe... The Dog, when summoned, does nothing but laugh at you. He's the [[JokeItem Joke Assist]].
** The Ducks
*** [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/Assist_Trophy According to this page on the Smash Wiki]], Nintendo tried putting Assist Trophies in Melee, and the only one they disclosed information about was one that would release the ducks from Duck Hunt, which would fly around and interfere with the fighters. Perhaps they could use that concept in the fourth game...
* VideoGame/UrbanChampion
** The Urban Champion
*** For whatever reason, Nintendo loves this mediocre game and ports it as often as possible. His only abilities would be to punch slowly, and to have a flowerpot sometime fall onto him. Any opponent above him takes minor damage.
* Third Party
** [[PacMan Pac-Man]]
*** Namco is helping develop the next installment of the series and Pac-Man is basically their mascot. Even if Pac-Man doesn't get a playable role, he should at least get an assist trophy. It could be 8-bit Pac-Man from the original arcade game, who tries to chomp the characters using a Power Pellet.
*** Alternatively, he'll eat the power pellet and every opponent will turn blue, losing all offensive capability, forcing them to run from the one who got the trophy, like the ghosts would in the original game. If they get KOed and respawn before the timer runs out though, they'll be back to normal
** [[DigDug Taizo Hori]]
*** If Pac-Man is a playable character or otherwise is decided not to become an assist trophy or playable character in some fashion. Taizo Hori from Dig Dug is another iconic Namco character who could dig into the stage and inflate the characters with his pump (in the original Dig Dug, partially inflating someone stunned them). He could also attack with his jackhammer from Dig Dug 2.
** [[VideoGame/PacMan Blinky, Inky, Pinky, and Clyde]]
*** If PacMan is a fighter, this is a definite. They could fly around the screen, knocking out the fighters.
* Other
** [[VideoGame/PanelDePon Lip]]
*** If Lip does not become a playable character. She has been represented in the Smash series by her signature weapon since Melee. She could use her Lip's Stick to put flowers on enemies' heads, much like the standalone weapon. She could also drop Panel de Pon blocks onto the stage.
** [[VideoGame/DillonsRollingWestern Dillon]]
*** He is from one of the most popular downloadable 3Ds games, so it seems likely. He could tackle into people like Jigglypuff then either use his grind or claw attacks.
** {{Shantae}}
*** She's not a well-known character but she does have a small but dedicated fanbase. A full-on playable character is unlikely but she could definitely appear as an assist trophy. She would belly dance into a random transformation and assist the player who summoned her.
** [[VideoGame/ARGames Mr. AR]]
*** Certainly players of the 3DS version would likely be familiar with him at least. He could place an AR card on the ground and have various things occur above the card.

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*** You could have a commanding officer with moves based around their supports ('''Andy''' with blow torches and nail guns because he repairs stuff, for example) or even a generic grunt (using ''BattalionWars'' weapons maybe) or mix the two somehow. All sorts of stage and final smash possibilities too.

** Rosalina: Zatanna

* I can think of another possible (and first party) contender, [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakining Olivia]].

** So pretty much the SSBB Subspace Emissary is the Nintendo version of the ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' series? That means all the crazy events that the video game character trophies/toys experience is actually the plot line the child [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZlPbljdSo imagines]] as he's packing the toys and moving to a new place. (Akin to the first ''Toy Story'' movie, yes?)

** '''Birdo''' has been around longer than many of the other characters in Smash Bros, including Yoshi and Wario. She's been a recurring boss character and friend for years, and it would be nice to have another...''female'' character.

*** Going by the Disney/Warner Bros. route, we have CartoonAllstarstotheRescue (although this is dubious at best), which brings (not counting the well-known characters mentioned above) {{Garfield}}, TheSmurfs, the 1987 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' (and, by TMNT Forever, the 2003 series and the original comics), MuppetBabies, Series/{{ALF}}, AlvinandtheChipmunks and TheRealGhostbusters into the mix. Going by the company logic, Nickelodeon is brought in by [=TMNT's=] presence as present owner. And if we strecth it, Literature/HarryPotter is brought in by the film series being produced by WB. Any bets that we'll run into something like TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} sooner or later if we keep finding links?

*** Given there's now four games in the series and little representation beyond some trophies and stickers, Paper Mario as a character would be perfect; likely using the hammer and the occasional partner, with his Final Smash involving the Crystal Stars

*** Either or.

** Maybe the Final Smash could be to throw Flip blocks, so you can make your enemy dizzy. Actually, all of the fairies could be used, like Tippi, to... what can Tippi do again? Eh, just make her reveal "information" (a bunch of squiggly lines) so the enemies are harder to hit. (There wouldn't be any actual info, just the enemies are more vulnerable).