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* Building Mikado Castle: The sensible option to having a hole full of demons is to cave it in, so Akira had to prevent anyone from trying this. So he built the castle on top of Naraku. No one would want to knock down a castle, especially where the first king lived.
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* Building Mikado Castle: The sensible option to having a hole full of demons is to cave it in, so Akira had to prevent anyone from trying this. So he built the castle Building Mikado Castle on top of Naraku. No one Naraku would want make it very hard to knock down a castle, especially where get the first king lived.necessary materials to the entrance. Also, the entrance to Naraku is only a double-door next to some spiral steps, which would make it even harder to move building materials down.
*Having a statue of himself built on top Forming the Samurai: The only military force in Mikado emulates and admires him completely, possible enough to override the Monastery. More importantly, they're one of the entrance:
few groups that know of Naraku's existence, ostensibly to protect the populace, but it also makes it even harder to destroy it. If they have to hide from the non-Samurai and Monastery members in the castle, it would be a lot harder to cave it in.
* Writing the code so that they can't go down past the Third Stratum: the Fourth Stratum contains a bridge that you need to cross to reach the Fifth. He had to put that one in so that they wouldn't destroy the bridge.
* Placing the Minotaur: This one is harder to justify. He probably put him in as lip service to the Archangels; he's strong, but not the strongest of his demons.
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* Writing the code so that they can't go down past the Third Stratum: the Fourth Stratum contains a bridge that you need to cross to reach the Fifth. He had to put that one in so that they wouldn't destroy the bridge.
* Placing the Minotaur: This one is harder to justify. He probably put him in as lip service to the Archangels; he's strong, but not the strongest of his demons.
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[[WMG: King Aquila deliberately sabotaged Mikado's isolation]]
''Apocalypse'' spells out his goal: lead Mikado so that it can eventually unite with Tokyo, even though the Archangels are watching. Everything he did to isolate Mikado was designed to ensure that there was a path between Tokyo and Mikado: Naraku.
* Fighting the 'Unclean Ones': He was installed king because he saved Mikado, which gave him political power, but more importantly, it gave him the legendary status that made him an idol.
* Building Mikado Castle: The sensible option to having a hole full of demons is to cave it in, so Akira had to prevent anyone from trying this. So he built the castle on top of Naraku. No one would want to knock down a castle, especially where the first king lived.
* Having a statue of himself built on top of the entrance:
''Apocalypse'' spells out his goal: lead Mikado so that it can eventually unite with Tokyo, even though the Archangels are watching. Everything he did to isolate Mikado was designed to ensure that there was a path between Tokyo and Mikado: Naraku.
* Fighting the 'Unclean Ones': He was installed king because he saved Mikado, which gave him political power, but more importantly, it gave him the legendary status that made him an idol.
* Building Mikado Castle: The sensible option to having a hole full of demons is to cave it in, so Akira had to prevent anyone from trying this. So he built the castle on top of Naraku. No one would want to knock down a castle, especially where the first king lived.
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* {{Jossed}} for Isabeau, [[spoiler: Akira's]] reincarnation is [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse Nanashi]]]]. It COULD be Akira's sister, however.
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* Pretty much jossed by Gaston in [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse Apocalypse]].
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** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's outskirts, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalion, a Duke of Hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and sciences. Notice that the same baker, before his transformation, gone through the whole game (as confirmed by [[VideoGame/ShinMEgamiTenseiIVApocalypse the sequel]], ''seven years'' roughly) shirking his work now and then to distribute books to anyone, free of charge. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another means for those of Mikado to receive education?
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** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's outskirts, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalion, a Duke of Hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and sciences. Notice that the same baker, before his transformation, gone through the whole game (as confirmed by [[VideoGame/ShinMEgamiTenseiIVApocalypse [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse the sequel]], ''seven years'' roughly) shirking his work now and then to distribute books to anyone, free of charge. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another means for those of Mikado to receive education?
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** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's outskirts, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalion, a Duke of Hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and sciences. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another means for those of Mikado to receive education?
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** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's outskirts, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalion, a Duke of Hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and sciences. Notice that the same baker, before his transformation, gone through the whole game (as confirmed by [[VideoGame/ShinMEgamiTenseiIVApocalypse the sequel]], ''seven years'' roughly) shirking his work now and then to distribute books to anyone, free of charge. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another means for those of Mikado to receive education?
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones as such first and foremost because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much calling, and then summarily executing, anyone who came in contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones as such first and foremost because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much calling, and then summarily executing, anyone who came in contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing killing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones as such first and foremost because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones as such first and foremost because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging calling, and then summarily executing, anyone who came with in contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones first because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones as such first and foremost because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as for tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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* I support this guess. It would also explain why Lucifer TookALevelInJerkass and why Gabriel isn't the OneSaneMan of the Archangels, they simply hasn't [[TookALevelInKindness taken their level in kindness]] yet. Also I would guess that Kazuya arrives some time after [[spoiler:the filament has been lifted.]]
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[[WMG: Mikado only has one meal of the day: Breakfast]]
At least, breakfast is the only formal meal; all other times are like coffee breaks. At the start of the game, the four prentices have breakfast together. K says that he asked Sister Gabby out to breakfast a long time ago, rather than lunch or dinner as would be expected of a date.
At least, breakfast is the only formal meal; all other times are like coffee breaks. At the start of the game, the four prentices have breakfast together. K says that he asked Sister Gabby out to breakfast a long time ago, rather than lunch or dinner as would be expected of a date.
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* We know [[spoiler: Flynn]] is a reincarnation of someone who [[spoiler: gave his life to raise the firmament.]] That someone might have been the Shin Megami Tensei I protagonist, in an alternate version of the events of first game of the series. The Law and Chaos protagonists likely existed as well, but died after Tokyo was saved from the ICBMs. The Heroine likely met this fate as well. 1500 years later, they were reborn as Flynn, Isabeau, Jonathan, and Walter.
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* We know [[spoiler: Flynn]] is a reincarnation of someone who [[spoiler: gave his life to raise the firmament.]] That someone might have been the Shin Megami Tensei I protagonist, in an alternate version of the events of first game of the series. The Law and Chaos protagonists likely existed as well, but died after Tokyo was saved from the ICBMs.[=ICBMs=]. The Heroine likely met this fate as well. 1500 years later, they were reborn as Flynn, Isabeau, Jonathan, and Walter.
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* I support this guess. It would also explain why Lucifer TookALevelInJerkass and why Gabriel isn't the OneSaneMan of the Archangels, they simply hasn't [[TookALevelInKindness taken their level in kindness]] yet. Also I would guess that Kazuya arrives some time after [[spoiler:the filament has been lifted.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Most of the game's plot is caused by The White, manifestations of human despair at God's ultimate control over mankind's fate. Their goal is to remove mankind from the control of god by ending existence.]] Where Strange Journey falls in relationship to this game is unclear, but Nocturne is clearly unrelated. Besides, Strange Journey is a textbook example of GaiasVengeance, while Nocturne is one link in an inconceivably large ThirtyXanatosPileup between the Great Will and Lucifer (or its resolution, depending on your choice of ending).
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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Most of the game's plot is caused by The White, manifestations of human despair at God's ultimate control over mankind's fate. Their goal is to remove mankind from the control of god by ending existence.]] Where Strange Journey falls in relationship to this game is unclear, but Nocturne is clearly unrelated. Besides, Strange Journey is a textbook example of GaiasVengeance, while Nocturne is one link in an inconceivably large ThirtyXanatosPileup GambitPileup between the Great Will and Lucifer (or its resolution, depending on your choice of ending).
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* Sure he is. He gets up to greet each new prospective member of the afterlife.
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It's true that [[spoiler: after being freed from Alraune]] he says he's been a victim ever since the Gauntlet chose him, but the context could be seen as him doing an about face from his previous attitude of pride in being a Samurai. However, it needs to be remembered that the Gauntlet ceremony is ''mandatory'' for each year's eighteen-year-olds, whether Casualry or Luxuror. What's more, Navarre's strutting is always in the context of being a Luxuror, ''not'' being a Samurai. In effect, ''he doesn't know how not to be a Luxuror''--a status with no meaning among Samurai. And during the training sessions, it becomes clear that he has no idea what to do. It's very possible that his extra-heavy preening and chronic sneering at Casualries was actually an attempt on his part to ''mask'' his ill ease over his sudden and unwanted responsibility. [[spoiler: The situation with Alraune]] was enough to [[SanitySlippage break both mask and resolve, though.]]
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It's true that [[spoiler: after being freed from Alraune]] he says he's been a victim ever since the Gauntlet chose him, but the context could be seen as him doing an about face from his previous attitude of pride in being a Samurai. However, it needs to be remembered that the Gauntlet ceremony is ''mandatory'' for each year's eighteen-year-olds, whether Casualry or Luxuror. What's more, Navarre's strutting is always in the context of being a Luxuror, ''not'' being a Samurai. In effect, ''he doesn't know how not to be a Luxuror''--a status with no meaning among Samurai. And during the training sessions, it becomes clear that he has no idea what to do. It's very possible that his extra-heavy preening and chronic sneering at Casualries was actually an attempt on his part to ''mask'' his ill ease over his sudden and unwanted responsibility. [[spoiler: The situation with Alraune]] was enough to [[SanitySlippage break both mask and resolve, though.though
[[WMG: The Four Archangels helped to create the Class System in Mikado as a failsafe should their plans to destroy Tokyo be thwarted.]]
It's specifically mentioned in the Clipped Wings DLC that the Four had helped Aquila found the kingdom and the class system had existed since the beginning. Eventually when Aquila learned of their plans for Mikado he joined with Mastema to prevent his old home from being destroyed. Though he was killed in his attempts to stop him, the archangels never took complete control of the kingdom and had them abolish the system in the past.
Gabriel likely saw it as an necessary tool to help build resentment amongst the Casualries as part of a long term plan to eventually free her brothers. Once they are released from Kagome Tower, they could use the kingdom as the base for a third attempt at destroying Tokyo by abolishing the cast system and making themselves look like righteous heroes.
[[WMG: The Four Archangels helped to create the Class System in Mikado as a failsafe should their plans to destroy Tokyo be thwarted.]]
It's specifically mentioned in the Clipped Wings DLC that the Four had helped Aquila found the kingdom and the class system had existed since the beginning. Eventually when Aquila learned of their plans for Mikado he joined with Mastema to prevent his old home from being destroyed. Though he was killed in his attempts to stop him, the archangels never took complete control of the kingdom and had them abolish the system in the past.
Gabriel likely saw it as an necessary tool to help build resentment amongst the Casualries as part of a long term plan to eventually free her brothers. Once they are released from Kagome Tower, they could use the kingdom as the base for a third attempt at destroying Tokyo by abolishing the cast system and making themselves look like righteous heroes.
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* Confirmed. [[spoiler: They are sick of the constant conflict and want to push Flynn over the MoralEventHorizon and cause him to ''destroy the entire universe'' to finally put a '''complete''' stop to the conflict.]]
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[[WMG: Navarre never wanted to be a Samurai in the first place.]]
It's true that [[spoiler: after being freed from Alraune]] he says he's been a victim ever since the Gauntlet chose him, but the context could be seen as him doing an about face from his previous attitude of pride in being a Samurai. However, it needs to be remembered that the Gauntlet ceremony is ''mandatory'' for each year's eighteen-year-olds, whether Casualry or Luxuror. What's more, Navarre's strutting is always in the context of being a Luxuror, ''not'' being a Samurai. In effect, ''he doesn't know how not to be a Luxuror''--a status with no meaning among Samurai. And during the training sessions, it becomes clear that he has no idea what to do. It's very possible that his extra-heavy preening and chronic sneering at Casualries was actually an attempt on his part to ''mask'' his ill ease over his sudden and unwanted responsibility. [[spoiler: The situation with Alraune]] was enough to [[SanitySlippage break both mask and resolve, though.]]
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones first because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the Lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or not-from-above instruction. Like the popular understanding of Zeus's punishment of Prometheus[[note]]In actuality, Zeus shackled him to the mountain not so much for giving fire to humanity, as tricking him into taking only the ickier parts of animal sacrifices[[/note]], they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance--and completely dependent about what to do on divine edict.
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[[WMG: Isabeau, Jonathan, and Walter are themselves [[spoiler: reincarnations of the basal world's Akira, Kiyoharu, and Kenji, respectively]].]]
[[spoiler: Given that Stephen apparently adjusted the gauntlets to activate on finding the reincarnation of Masakado's wielder, it's not too far off the mark to suspect that they're also sensitive to the reincarnations of his comrades. Navarre ''did'' notice that the year's catch of Samurai was ridiculously high, especially given the recent lack of chosen for several years. It may well be that the four comrades of old were drawn to each other's new incarnations--and given to their old inclinations of neutrality, law, and chaos.]]
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones first because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or instruction. Like Prometheus, they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance.
** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's outskits, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalian, a duke of hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and science. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another mean for those of Mikado to receive education?
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** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado'soutskits, outskirts, who transformed into a demon. Specifically, he became Dantalian, Dantalion, a duke Duke of hell Hell whose role mirrors that of Prometheus: divulge arts and science. sciences. Is the player really executing a humble man turned monster, or rooting yet another mean means for those of Mikado to receive education?
** This is pretty much confirmed by one sidequest after NG+, where you must assassinate the baker of Mikado's
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* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones first because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or instruction. Like Prometheus, they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance.
* And it's even hinted in the game, mainly by Lilith's speech about the apple on her execution. They name the Unclean Ones first because of their access to the Demon Summoning Program, but later they're pretty much purging anyone who came with contact with ''any'' symbol of knowledge, like books of any kind, even ''manga''. The law ending pretty much cements that the only humans allowed to live with the lord's blessing are Casualries: the humble workforce, with no luxuries whatsoever, with no education or instruction. Like Prometheus, they're punishing anyone who dares to '''know'''. Wisdom is a '''sin''' in the eyes of the angels. Humanity, to remain pure and blissful, must remain in complete ignorance.
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* Good attempt to reconcile them all, but a lot of text plus mutually incompatible timelines seem to argue that it's a case of multiple universes where this plays out one way or another.
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[[WMG: Charon is himself playing ''Shin Megami Tensei IV''.]]
His character keeps dying and is low on both Macca and Play Coins. He wants Play Coins from you because he's not going to get many Play Coins per day just sitting there at his desk.
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[[WMG: The current storyline of the Megaten Series is as follows:]]
Shin Megami Tensei II, in which YHVH has basically become omnipotent and fucked up everything beyond repair. Aleph managed to defeat YHVH and set the world back on track, but the Great Will is still too powerful, able to set up the Conception System and pretty much do what he wants. Lucifer realizes that there's no saving this timeline, and it's best to give it a MercyKill. Of course, he sees a way to get something he wants out of it, and sacrifices the timeline to create the Demi-Fiend. Then he goes back in time and helps Raidou make sure none of this ever happens.
Without being under the thumb of YHVH, humanity prospers. But they take it a little too far and summon the Schwarzwelt, kicking off Strange Journey. The Archangels, now having to work behind the scenes due to not having the power they did in SMTII see this as a chance to create the Millennium Kingdom, but the Strike Team puts the kibosh on their plans.
The Archangels snap and decide subtly is for pussies, and attempt to nuke the planet. Tokyo is saved by Masakado and the Hero. Thus begins Megaten IV
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[[WMG:The White are an allegory [[AudienceSurrogate allegory]] for SMT fans who are [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy sick of the Law/Neutral/Chaos conflict]].]]
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[[WMG:The Walter and Jonathan you fight in the Neutral ending aren't your Walter or Jonathan.]]
* When going through Blasted Tokyo and Infernal Tokyo, both Jonathan and Walter believe that you helped them in the previous sections, despite them being mutually exclusive routes. [[spoiler:With Walter you join up with Lilith and trigger the remote, with Jonathan you slay Lilith and fail to stop Walter from triggering the remote.]] But after returning in the Neutral path, neither of them mention the journey, the White, or much of anything before [[spoiler: fighting you as Lucifer/Merkabah.]] The point is: [[spoiler:If the White are able to bring an alternate ally that you helped in a parallel universe that wasn't yours, then they may have permanently separated said allies from you after you refuse to help destroy everything, and brought the allies you did not help to your world as a final measure from preventing your success.]]
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* [[spoiler:Merkabah and Lucifer are only able to maintain their forms because they need Jonathan and Walter's essences to give them power; the angels at one point even say that they specifically need Jonathan's soul to summon Merkabah. When Flynn defeats them, he frees Jonathan and Walter's souls, and Masakado uses their power to lift the ceiling off of Tokyo.]]
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* [[spoiler:Merkabah and Lucifer are only able to maintain their forms because they need Jonathan and Walter's essences to give them power; the angels at one point even say that they specifically need Jonathan's soul to summon Merkabah. When Flynn defeats them, he frees Jonathan and Walter's souls, and Masakado uses their power to lift the ceiling off of Tokyo. Plus, they're called SPIRITS, not "entities" or "guardians" or anything to imply that they're the actual demons.]]
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[[WMG:The Great Spirits of Goodwill and Spite are Jonathan and Walter's souls.]]
* [[spoiler:Merkabah and Lucifer are only able to maintain their forms because they need Jonathan and Walter's essences to give them power; the angels at one point even say that they specifically need Jonathan's soul to summon Merkabah. When Flynn defeats them, he frees Jonathan and Walter's souls, and Masakado uses their power to lift the ceiling off of Tokyo.]]
