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Think about this. Nobody ever fires on or attacks the World Claw. The closest thing to any attempt, on screen, is Vizier ramming Planet Fire into it, and it did take damage as it was partially crippled when it tried to grapple Planet Fire. Further, it's the only part of the Beast Planet that has rocket engines, the Beast always comes to a complete stop before those giant doors open up and set it loose. Even when Planet Jungle was caused to self-destruct, the debris from the explosion obscured what occured to the World Claw until was safely back in its enclosure.
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Think about this. Nobody ever fires on or attacks the World Claw. The closest thing to any attempt, on screen, is Vizier ramming Planet Fire into it, and it did take damage as it was partially crippled when it tried to grapple Planet Fire. Further, it's the only part of the Beast Planet that has rocket engines, the Beast always comes to a complete stop before those giant doors open up and set it loose. Even when Planet Jungle was caused to self-destruct, the debris from the explosion obscured what occured occurred to the World Claw until was safely back in its enclosure.
** In fairness, what guns can the Cluster bring to bear that can compare to ''ramming a fucking planet'' into it?
** In fairness, what guns can the Cluster bring to bear that can compare to ''ramming a fucking planet'' into it?
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is [[{{Transformers}} Unicron]].]]
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is [[{{Transformers}} [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Unicron]].]]
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* To be fair, self-destruct button is probably made of null matter. As well as the room it's in. And the complex. And the entire planet. Which is the size of the Cluster's star.
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* If Graveheart succeeds in annoying the PlanetEater too much, he may find himself taken and consumed body and soul by the cosmic horror, to replace the lieutenant he killed at the end of Season 2.
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[[WMG: Blokk, Lamprey and Voyd were all aliens once]]
The Beast absorbs and learns from all it devours. Not the drones themselves, but some of its servants (those with skulls remaining), it decides to appoint them control of its infinite armies. They keep some shred of their sentience, but nothing more. They are just null matter now. Poignantly, the evil commanders Blokk, Lamprey and Voyd that the Alliance have to struggle against were once just them like. They were once soldiers/rulers of their home planets, worlds that fought and fell to the Beast countless eons ago.
The Beast absorbs and learns from all it devours. Not the drones themselves, but some of its servants (those with skulls remaining), it decides to appoint them control of its infinite armies. They keep some shred of their sentience, but nothing more. They are just null matter now. Poignantly, the evil commanders Blokk, Lamprey and Voyd that the Alliance have to struggle against were once just them like. They were once soldiers/rulers of their home planets, worlds that fought and fell to the Beast countless eons ago.
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Yet our heroes never bother trying to go into it without getting killed and press the damn button to make the Beast Planet go kaboom.
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Yet our heroes never bother trying to go into it without getting killed and press the damn button to make the Beast Planet go kaboom.
kaboom. Talk about JustEatGilligan.
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[[WMG: The cloned Planet Fire was not a clone, but the actual planet fire gutted]]
When the false Vizier cracked open the planet, he said that "where once there was fire, now there is only null matter", implying that the planet was indeed Fire, but the beast had hollowed it out and filled it with null matter to control it. This might also mean that the false Vizier was also the original's body, but his spirit replaced with a being that was loyal to the beast planet (or worse, he was brainwashed). This is notable because unlike other constructs of the beasts (the generals or drones) the Vizier was actually afraid of dying, which no other Beast creation exhibited (Lamprey taunted Tekla for her wanting to sacrifice herself to kill Lamprey, while Blokk didn't think twice about plunging himself into a sun just to spite Graveheart).
When the false Vizier cracked open the planet, he said that "where once there was fire, now there is only null matter", implying that the planet was indeed Fire, but the beast had hollowed it out and filled it with null matter to control it. This might also mean that the false Vizier was also the original's body, but his spirit replaced with a being that was loyal to the beast planet (or worse, he was brainwashed). This is notable because unlike other constructs of the beasts (the generals or drones) the Vizier was actually afraid of dying, which no other Beast creation exhibited (Lamprey taunted Tekla for her wanting to sacrifice herself to kill Lamprey, while Blokk didn't think twice about plunging himself into a sun just to spite Graveheart).
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* This is reinforced in that the reason Femur had to make amends after they ditched the alliance during the siege of Remora was because he was going to be offed; at no point in the episode did they even imply Bone had a resource issue while resource issues being the main reason the other rules were concerned with after they cut ties with Bone.
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet has a self-destruct button inside it]]
Yet our heroes never bother trying to go into it without getting killed and press the damn button to make the Beast Planet go kaboom.
Yet our heroes never bother trying to go into it without getting killed and press the damn button to make the Beast Planet go kaboom.
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First up, the manner in which the Beast Planet eats planets Tek, Fire, Jungle, and Reptizard is highly reminiscent of the way Unicron at Lithone in ''TransformersTheMovie''. Also, the planet [[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines Botanica]] explored to get her plant mode looked very like Planet Jungle; while this may simply have been a simple case of recycling an environment to save on costs, it's much more fun to think the two series take place in the same universe. And if ''Shadow Raiders'' and ''Beast Machines'' exist in the same universe, that means Unicron must be out there ''somewhere''.
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First up, the manner in which the Beast Planet eats planets Tek, Fire, Jungle, and Reptizard is highly reminiscent of the way Unicron at Lithone in ''TransformersTheMovie''.''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''. Also, the planet [[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines Botanica]] explored to get her plant mode looked very like Planet Jungle; while this may simply have been a simple case of recycling an environment to save on costs, it's much more fun to think the two series take place in the same universe. And if ''Shadow Raiders'' and ''Beast Machines'' exist in the same universe, that means Unicron must be out there ''somewhere''.
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[[WMG: The Beast's Achiles Heel is its most dangerous weapon, the World Claw.]]
Think about this. Nobody ever fires on or attacks the World Claw. The closest thing to any attempt, on screen, is Vizier ramming Planet Fire into it, and it did take damage as it was partially crippled when it tried to grapple Planet Fire. Further, it's the only part of the Beast Planet that has rocket engines, the Beast always comes to a complete stop before those giant doors open up and set it loose. Even when Planet Jungle was caused to self-destruct, the debris from the explosion obscured what occured to the World Claw until was safely back in its enclosure.
Think about this. Nobody ever fires on or attacks the World Claw. The closest thing to any attempt, on screen, is Vizier ramming Planet Fire into it, and it did take damage as it was partially crippled when it tried to grapple Planet Fire. Further, it's the only part of the Beast Planet that has rocket engines, the Beast always comes to a complete stop before those giant doors open up and set it loose. Even when Planet Jungle was caused to self-destruct, the debris from the explosion obscured what occured to the World Claw until was safely back in its enclosure.
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They battled against it, but could not halt its destructive feeding. Eventually they devised a brilliant plan to effectively contain it away. They build a massive prison around it, [[SealedEvilInACan to seal it away forever]]... but long after the ancients left the universe, it began to move of its own accord, using the technology around it to devour again. [[LeakingCanOfEvil It didn't work]].
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They battled against it, but could not halt its destructive feeding. Eventually they devised a brilliant plan to effectively contain it away. They build [[SinisterGeometry a massive prison planet-like prison]] around it, [[SealedEvilInACan to seal it away forever]]... but long after the ancients left the universe, it began to move of its own accord, using the technology around it to devour again. [[LeakingCanOfEvil It didn't work]].
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While exploring and colonizing the cosmos, the Ancients eventually encountered a horrible gigantic {{EldritchAbomination}}, not life as we know it, a being that feds and devours on living worlds like cancer... The Beast.
They battled against it, but could not halt its destructive feeding. Eventually they devised a brilliant plan to effectively contain it away. They build a massive prison around it, [[SealedEvilInACan to seal it away forever]]... but long after the ancients left the universe, it began to move of its own accord, using the technology around it to devour again. [[LeakingCanOfEvil It didn't work]].
While exploring and colonizing the cosmos, the Ancients eventually encountered a horrible gigantic {{EldritchAbomination}}, not life as we know it, a being that feds and devours on living worlds like cancer... The Beast.
They battled against it, but could not halt its destructive feeding. Eventually they devised a brilliant plan to effectively contain it away. They build a massive prison around it, [[SealedEvilInACan to seal it away forever]]... but long after the ancients left the universe, it began to move of its own accord, using the technology around it to devour again. [[LeakingCanOfEvil It didn't work]].
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A fun theroy is that the Beast Planet is what became of Unicron after his failed attempt at resurrection in the G1/Beast Wars timeline. His body was revived as a soulless machine who continues to consume planets but no longer has Unicron's consciousness driving it.
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A fun theroy theory is that the Beast Planet is what became of Unicron after his failed attempt at resurrection in the G1/Beast Wars timeline. His body was revived as a soulless machine who continues to consume planets but no longer has Unicron's consciousness driving it.
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is Earth in an alternate MortalEngines where the plan came to fruition.]]
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is Earth in an alternate MortalEngines Literature/MortalEngines where the plan came to fruition.]]
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* This makes a lot of sense, and could also explain why Planet Rock has the most militarized and violent population; their planet's resource is minerals, which is only used for construction in military constructs. These are lower priority to Fire, Ice and Bone, who are all basic necessities (energy, water and food). This means that Rock must be raided less, and thus allowed them to not only form a larger military (less casualties) but also require a stronger military because they need to raid one more planet than the others for necessities (all of the planets they raid have basic necessities, while other planets can afford to ignore Rock if they're in a shortage).
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* It could be that the Beast Planet is the eventual evolution of said race, joining their consciousness into a technological whole. Their brutal ways is simply a product of BlueAndOrangeMorality.
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is a [[MassEffect Reaper.]]]]
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[[WMG: The Beast Planet is a [[MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect Reaper.]]]]
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*I'd actually take it even further. The 4 planets are unable to remain independent without each other, so I think they were probably created at a initial level of space faring capabilities. Then those precursors left and that part of the history of the 4 planets disappeared. So long as the precursors knew about the Beast Planet, they could tell the inhabitants of the system about it. If you wanted to take it further, you could make the argument that the Beast and the Precursors are inherently linked - either the same entities or separate parts of the same faction. Could be similar to the Burning Legion from Warcraft who destroy the creations of the Titans while the Titans pay them no heed, or it could be that the Precursors create planets for whatever reason knowing that the Beast will eventually consume them - perhaps intending them to eventually be consumed by the Beast - perhaps even being the Beast and this merely being what the Beast does when it is done with a system. Either way, the Beast is intentionally targeting creations of the Precursors - how else would Lamprey know that all of those planets have a World Engine - not just a possibility, but a reality. Heck, she knew it well enough that Tekla was able to find the entrance to it in under a day.
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*Considering Unicron [[AllThereInTheManual hops between universes at will]], it might not be all that unlikely that Unicron simply decided to stop by the Shadow Raiders universe for a day and [[PlanetEater eat]] [[OmnicidalManiac their reality]].
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First up, the manner in which the Beast Planet eats planets Tek, Fire, Jungle, and Reptizard is highly reminiscent of the way Unicron at Lithone in ''TransformersTheMovie''. Also, the planet [[BeastMachines Botanica]] explored to get her plant mode looked very like Planet Jungle; while this may simply have been a simple case of recycling an environment to save on costs, it's much more fun to think the two series take place in the same universe. And if ''Shadow Raiders'' and ''Beast Machines'' exist in the same universe, that means Unicron must be out there ''somewhere''.
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First up, the manner in which the Beast Planet eats planets Tek, Fire, Jungle, and Reptizard is highly reminiscent of the way Unicron at Lithone in ''TransformersTheMovie''. Also, the planet [[BeastMachines [[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines Botanica]] explored to get her plant mode looked very like Planet Jungle; while this may simply have been a simple case of recycling an environment to save on costs, it's much more fun to think the two series take place in the same universe. And if ''Shadow Raiders'' and ''Beast Machines'' exist in the same universe, that means Unicron must be out there ''somewhere''.
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The Beast Planet is an alternate universe version of a Reaper, where instead of harvesting living beings, it harvests entire planets. Good thing there's only one.
The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
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* The Beast Planet is an alternate universe version of a Reaper, where instead of harvesting living beings, it harvests entire planets. Good thing there's only one.
* The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
* The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
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Black with red lights? Basically invincible? Completely unstoppable, boasting weapons more powerful than any other species'? Stick a few tentacles on it and we've got a Reaper.
The Beast Planet is an alternate universe version of a Reaper, where instead of harvesting living beings, it harvests entire planets. Good thing there's only one.
The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
Black with red lights? Basically invincible? Completely unstoppable, boasting weapons more powerful than any other species'? Stick a few tentacles on it and we've got a Reaper.
The Beast Planet is an alternate universe version of a Reaper, where instead of harvesting living beings, it harvests entire planets. Good thing there's only one.
The Beast's Generals are either smaller Reapers, or indoctrinated from another race that it consumed eons ago.
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A fun theroy is that the Beast Planet is what became of Unicron after his failed attempt at resurrection in the G1/Beast Wars timeline. His body was revived as a soulless machine who continues to consume planets but no longer has Unicron's consciousness driving it.
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* Maybe they're the same species, but rival factions.
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At some point or another, the Ancients who created the world engines and teleporters became the Beast Planet. At some point in the distant past they transformed their world into a single massive weapon of war, which, given their world engines, would be child's play since the Alliance already did that to their own planets in season two. The Beast/Ancients just took it to the next level. They built it up bigger, armored it, armed it, and now they're on a rampage. Or, alternative, they created the Beast as a kind of weapon--perhaps they were fighting, and even ''losing'', an interstellar war and were forced to create such a weapon to defend themselves...and it [[AIIsACrapshoot didn't work. Like at all.]] In that case the Ancients may have actually engineered the warlike Cluster and their neighbors on other planets specifically to fight the Beast, like a failsafe.
At some point or another, the Ancients who created the world engines and teleporters became the Beast Planet. At some point in the distant past they transformed their world into a single massive weapon of war, which, given their world engines, would be child's play since the Alliance already did that to their own planets in season two. The Beast/Ancients just took it to the next level. They built it up bigger, armored it, armed it, and now they're on a rampage. Or, alternative, they created the Beast as a kind of weapon--perhaps they were fighting, and even ''losing'', an interstellar war and were forced to create such a weapon to defend themselves...and it [[AIIsACrapshoot didn't work. Like at all.]] In that case the Ancients may have actually engineered the warlike Cluster and their neighbors on other planets specifically to fight the Beast, like a failsafe.
