Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 48 (click to see context) from:
to:
*** I believe the latest chapter indicates that there are two quarian survivors - a male who was captured by the mercenaries, and a female who had the data they were trying to turn over. Definitely sounds like Kal'Reegar and Tali, though the male might be another quarian altogether.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 47 (click to see context) from:
to:
**After reading the latest, it seems like it might be both Reegar and Tali (Though this troper may have read the chapter wrong).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 33,34 (click to see context) from:
** Confirme din the later chapters. Nod actually had entire communities and planets in the Terminus.
to:
** Confirme din Confirmed in the later chapters. Nod actually had entire communities and planets in the Terminus.
Changed line(s) 57,59 (click to see context) from:
Nilhus seems to think the Beacon is an insignificant discovery next to the Tacitus, but the GDI is sure interested in it. However, nobody actually ''uses'' it - the Tacitus takes its "give Shep headache-y flashbacks" role. But there doesn't seem to be any direct connection between the Scrin and the Reapers before the present-day of the fic, which means the Tacitus couldn't contain Prothean data about the Reapers.
Which, of course, means that once again Kane knows more than everybody else, which is his MO.
Which, of course, means that once again Kane knows more than everybody else, which is his MO.
to:
Nilhus seems to think the Beacon is an insignificant discovery next to the Tacitus, but the GDI is sure interested in it. However, nobody actually ''uses'' it - the Tacitus takes its "give Shep headache-y flashbacks" role. But there doesn't seem to be any direct connection between the Scrin and the Reapers before the present-day of the fic, which means the Tacitus couldn't contain Prothean data about the Reapers.
Reapers. Which, of course, means that once again Kane knows more than everybody else, which is his MO.
* WordOfGod is that the Beacon and the Tacitus were the same thing.
* WordOfGod is that the Beacon and the Tacitus were the same thing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 33 (click to see context) from:
to:
** Confirme din the later chapters. Nod actually had entire communities and planets in the Terminus.
Changed line(s) 45 (click to see context) from:
to:
** The surviving quarian was stated to be male, however.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 40,41 (click to see context) from:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who is apparently little different from Saren, except he kneecaps people instead of killing them outright.
to:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who is apparently little different from Saren, except he kneecaps people instead of killing them outright.
outright. [[ThereWasADoor Also, doesn't like doors.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 40,41 (click to see context) from:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who's only been inducted for the last year.
to:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who's only been inducted for the last year.
who is apparently little different from Saren, except he kneecaps people instead of killing them outright.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: The Scrin are this universe's [[MassEffect2 Collectors]]]]
A Tacitus is likely to be connected to both Tiberium and the Protheans, and the Scrin are an explicitly Tiberium-based species. Since that implies the connection between the Tiberium and the Protheans, one could assume that Protheans adopted Tiberium-based technology over the mass effect-based. The Reapers didn't anticipate it, but, faced with Prothean opposition during their regular reaping cycle, prevailed and assimilated Tiberium as another possible avenue of technological progress. The Scrin are not the original Protheans, but Tiberium-based constructs derived from them.
The Tiberium meteor launched to Earth is a test of the doctrine: either the Tiberium consumes the planet and makes its minerals easy to harvest, or the indigenous species overcomes it and creates new but predictable technologies based on it. Win-win.
It also explains a considerable Scrin force siding with the Reapers with no appearance of modification or indoctination.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 23 (click to see context) from:
to:
* Kane admits as much in Chapter 6, but explicitly says he didn't plan on Saren being Saren.
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
to:
* However, the Council ''has'' decided to allow the GDI to conduct investigations into Saren, the Scrin, and the geth in Citadel space, and presumably are going to put some kind of observer on the ''Normandy'' to make sure this privilege isn't abused - and who better than someone they know can work with the ''Normandy'' crew?
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
to:
* Unlikely, for two reasons: one, Renegade is going out of its way to ensure all the right players are there despite the changes in the timeline, and two, Reegar is a Migrant Fleet Marine, who (judging by Haestrom) deploy in much larger groups than seen so far.
Changed line(s) 45 (click to see context) from:
to:
* Unlikely, since the Citadel isn't going to pick a fight with GDI for the batarians' sake - they dislike the batarians nearly as much as they do the humans.
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: Kane used the Beacon on Eden Prime]]
Nilhus seems to think the Beacon is an insignificant discovery next to the Tacitus, but the GDI is sure interested in it. However, nobody actually ''uses'' it - the Tacitus takes its "give Shep headache-y flashbacks" role. But there doesn't seem to be any direct connection between the Scrin and the Reapers before the present-day of the fic, which means the Tacitus couldn't contain Prothean data about the Reapers.
Which, of course, means that once again Kane knows more than everybody else, which is his MO.
[[WMG: More ME2 characters are going to show up before they do in canon]]
Not much of a WMG, admittedly, but given how Miranda and Jacob showed up already, chances are good that various other Mass Effect 2 characters will feature. It'll be particularly interesting seeing how Jack shows up, if at all, given the evident lack of Cerberus, or what the Illusive Man is doing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 47 (click to see context) from:
Nod has always had an appeal with marginalized groups who feel forgotten and oppressed; quarians and krogan aren't that far off from the denizens of the Yellow Zones. Unlike Cerberus (which Nod seems to have replaced) the Brotherhood seems to lack any xenophobic philosophy and they have always welcomed those who have been willing and able to further their cause.
to:
Nod has always had an appeal with marginalized groups who feel forgotten and oppressed; quarians and krogan aren't that far off from the denizens of the Yellow Zones. Unlike Cerberus (which Nod seems to have replaced) the Brotherhood seems to lack any xenophobic philosophy and they have always welcomed those who have been willing and able to further their cause.cause.
* This is all but outright said in the sixth chapter, with the quarians who had laser weaponry, and whom Kane knew about.
* This is all but outright said in the sixth chapter, with the quarians who had laser weaponry, and whom Kane knew about.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: The Brotherhood of Nod will start to recruit aliens.]]
Nod has always had an appeal with marginalized groups who feel forgotten and oppressed; quarians and krogan aren't that far off from the denizens of the Yellow Zones. Unlike Cerberus (which Nod seems to have replaced) the Brotherhood seems to lack any xenophobic philosophy and they have always welcomed those who have been willing and able to further their cause.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Stop abusing those poor apostrophes. They were never meant for plurals and you now, you horrible, cruel person!
Changed line(s) 44 (click to see context) from:
Kane is secretly running the Batarian Hegemony and organized the slaver attacks to draw GDI into a war with the Citadel to weaken both sides for the Reaper's. Then once the galaxy was purged he and his followers would emerge and dominated the galaxy.
to:
Kane is secretly running the Batarian Hegemony and organized the slaver attacks to draw GDI into a war with the Citadel to weaken both sides for the Reaper's.Reapers. Then once the galaxy was purged he and his followers would emerge and dominated the galaxy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 41 (click to see context) from:
Mostly because the author seems to like tossing curveballs at the readers. Implications are that the survivor might be Tali, but it would be a twist if it was Reegar instead.
to:
Mostly because the author seems to like tossing curveballs at the readers. Implications are that the survivor might be Tali, but it would be a twist if it was Reegar instead.instead.
[[WMG: Kane planned the GDI/Batarian war.]]
Kane is secretly running the Batarian Hegemony and organized the slaver attacks to draw GDI into a war with the Citadel to weaken both sides for the Reaper's. Then once the galaxy was purged he and his followers would emerge and dominated the galaxy.
[[WMG: Kane planned the GDI/Batarian war.]]
Kane is secretly running the Batarian Hegemony and organized the slaver attacks to draw GDI into a war with the Citadel to weaken both sides for the Reaper's. Then once the galaxy was purged he and his followers would emerge and dominated the galaxy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 36 (click to see context) from:
[[WMG: Garrus is a Specter]]
to:
[[WMG: Garrus is a Specter]]Spectre]]
Changed line(s) 38 (click to see context) from:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who's only been inducted for the last year.
to:
* Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who's only been inducted for the last year.year.
[[WMG: The surviving quarian is Kal'Reegar]]
Mostly because the author seems to like tossing curveballs at the readers. Implications are that the survivor might be Tali, but it would be a twist if it was Reegar instead.
[[WMG: The surviving quarian is Kal'Reegar]]
Mostly because the author seems to like tossing curveballs at the readers. Implications are that the survivor might be Tali, but it would be a twist if it was Reegar instead.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 38 (click to see context) from:
* [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms this.]]
to:
* [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms this.]]Confirmed in Chapter 6. He's a rookie Spectre who's only been inducted for the last year.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
(Not related to the TV series {{Renegade}}.)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
It gives him the perfect excuse to be on the Normandy.
to:
It gives him the perfect excuse to be on the Normandy.Normandy.
* [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms this.]]
* [[spoiler: WordOfGod confirms this.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
spelling correction
Changed line(s) 32,33 (click to see context) from:
Even with [[spoiler: Kane's return]] it's unlikely that the Council will give any kind of aid to the GDI, as the GDI most likely not give any aid to hunting down Seran, seeing the Geth and Scirin as the bigger threat. They (the Council) may regard it as some threat, but nothing more than simply sending a Specter along with Shepard as a representative. However, it will not be Nihlus, as he will be tasked with hunting down Seran. Which leads too...
to:
Even with [[spoiler: Kane's return]] it's unlikely that the Council will give any kind of aid to the GDI, as the GDI most likely not give any aid to hunting down Seran, Saren, seeing the Geth and Scirin Scrin as the bigger threat. They (the Council) may regard it as some threat, but nothing more than simply sending a Specter along with Shepard as a representative. However, it will not be Nihlus, as he will be tasked with hunting down Seran.Saren. Which leads too...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: Nihlus will NOT be joining the Normandy team]]
Even with [[spoiler: Kane's return]] it's unlikely that the Council will give any kind of aid to the GDI, as the GDI most likely not give any aid to hunting down Seran, seeing the Geth and Scirin as the bigger threat. They (the Council) may regard it as some threat, but nothing more than simply sending a Specter along with Shepard as a representative. However, it will not be Nihlus, as he will be tasked with hunting down Seran. Which leads too...
[[WMG: Garrus is a Specter]]
It gives him the perfect excuse to be on the Normandy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: Nod has moved to another planet]]
Fairly likely, but worth putting in here. While Nod's stealth systems would enable them to hide bases within Sol, getting past the Arcturus Relay is going to be a problem these days. It would be far easier to establish an off-world base of their own. The most likely scenario is that after the discovery of the Charon Relay, Nod sent a few ships through. They found a suitable planet, hooked up with Kane, and brought in Tiberium from Earth via the threshold network.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: The [[LightningGun Arc Projector]] is based on Tesla technology.]]
WordOfGod has confirmed that the first Red Alert game is part of this story's continuity. The Arc Projector is pretty much a tesla trooper's main weapon condensed into a rifle form. Ergo....
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: The Council will join forces with Nod]]
Kane will offer them access to Tiberium (which, as hinted by WordOfGod, they can move past the GDI embargo thanks to the threshold network) In exchange of a place in the Citadel hierarchy as Humanity's representative and aid in case of GDI aggression as they consolidate their influence over the unaligned Human colonies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: The Brotherhood stole the Tacitus on Eden Prime]]
Obviously, the Tacitus disappearing like that has pissed off both GDI and the Citadel, making them accuse and distrust each other. All the better for Nod....
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
[[WMG: ''Renegade'' is set in the future of ''TiberiumWars''.]]
to:
[[WMG: ''Renegade'' is set in the future of ''TiberiumWars''.''Fanfic/TiberiumWars''.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[WMG: ''Renegade'' is set in the future of ''TiberiumWars''.]]
This won't make a huge difference in the plot, but you can bet that there will be references between the two fics.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 12,13 (click to see context) from:
The Protheans discovered Tiberium shortly before being wiped out. Kane survived by faking his own death. He then arranged for Tiberium to end up on Earth, while laying the groundwork for the Brotherhood of Nod. The reason Kane never even hinted at the Prothean ruins on Mars was to prevent humanity from becoming dependent on mass effect-based technology. His ultimate goal was to make the humans into a Tiberium-based society that could take on the Reapers. His original plan was to take over Earth with the Brotherhood of Nod, but after seeing GDI fighting the Scrin in the Third Tiberium War, he became convinced that GDI was up to the task.
to:
The Protheans discovered Tiberium shortly before being wiped out. Kane survived by faking his own death. He then arranged for Tiberium to end up on Earth, while laying the groundwork for the Brotherhood of Nod. The reason Kane never even hinted at the Prothean ruins on Mars was to prevent humanity from becoming dependent on mass effect-based technology. His ultimate goal was to make the humans into a Tiberium-based society that could take on the Reapers. His original plan was to take over Earth with the Brotherhood of Nod, but after seeing GDI fighting the Scrin in the Third Tiberium War, he became convinced that GDI was up to the task.
task. This is why Nod never made another attempt at world domination - Kane didn't want to weaken either side through war.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
The Brotherhood's basic philosophy (Peace, Unity, Brotherhood) was buried in the Tacitus recovered on Eden Prime, and we know the beacons were intended by the Protheans as a warning of the Reaper invasion. What if they included information about a Reaper infiltrator? And Kane's creation of the Brotherhood seems like low-key indoctrination....
to:
The Brotherhood's basic philosophy (Peace, Unity, Brotherhood) was buried in the Tacitus recovered on Eden Prime, and we know the beacons were intended by the Protheans as a warning of the Reaper invasion. What if they included information about a Reaper infiltrator? And Kane's creation of the Brotherhood seems like low-key indoctrination....indoctrination....
[[WMG: Kane is a ''Prothean''.]]
The Protheans discovered Tiberium shortly before being wiped out. Kane survived by faking his own death. He then arranged for Tiberium to end up on Earth, while laying the groundwork for the Brotherhood of Nod. The reason Kane never even hinted at the Prothean ruins on Mars was to prevent humanity from becoming dependent on mass effect-based technology. His ultimate goal was to make the humans into a Tiberium-based society that could take on the Reapers. His original plan was to take over Earth with the Brotherhood of Nod, but after seeing GDI fighting the Scrin in the Third Tiberium War, he became convinced that GDI was up to the task.
This is how Nod will be able to act as a Cerberus analogue. Unlike their 21st-century predecessors, the modern Brotherhood doesn't oppose GDI - they actually support it, just as Cerberus supported the Systems Alliance. This time, when they join forces with GDI, it will be with Kane's blessing.
[[WMG: Kane is a ''Prothean''.]]
The Protheans discovered Tiberium shortly before being wiped out. Kane survived by faking his own death. He then arranged for Tiberium to end up on Earth, while laying the groundwork for the Brotherhood of Nod. The reason Kane never even hinted at the Prothean ruins on Mars was to prevent humanity from becoming dependent on mass effect-based technology. His ultimate goal was to make the humans into a Tiberium-based society that could take on the Reapers. His original plan was to take over Earth with the Brotherhood of Nod, but after seeing GDI fighting the Scrin in the Third Tiberium War, he became convinced that GDI was up to the task.
This is how Nod will be able to act as a Cerberus analogue. Unlike their 21st-century predecessors, the modern Brotherhood doesn't oppose GDI - they actually support it, just as Cerberus supported the Systems Alliance. This time, when they join forces with GDI, it will be with Kane's blessing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
Insane theories for the fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Renegade}}''.
----
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
[WMG: Kane is a Reaper]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
Kane himself will command their fleet. And the Scrin will crap their pants.
to:
Kane himself will command their fleet. And the Scrin will crap their pants.pants.
[WMG: Kane is a Reaper]]
The Brotherhood's basic philosophy (Peace, Unity, Brotherhood) was buried in the Tacitus recovered on Eden Prime, and we know the beacons were intended by the Protheans as a warning of the Reaper invasion. What if they included information about a Reaper infiltrator? And Kane's creation of the Brotherhood seems like low-key indoctrination....
[WMG: Kane is a Reaper]]
The Brotherhood's basic philosophy (Peace, Unity, Brotherhood) was buried in the Tacitus recovered on Eden Prime, and we know the beacons were intended by the Protheans as a warning of the Reaper invasion. What if they included information about a Reaper infiltrator? And Kane's creation of the Brotherhood seems like low-key indoctrination....
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
Click the edit button to start this new page.
to:
Kane himself will command their fleet. And the
