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Creator/GenUrobuchi has said from the beginning that Sayaka is TheProtagonist, even ahead of [[AllLovingHero Madoka]] and [[{{Deuteragonist}} Homura]]. If he's still holding true to that, then her all-new, bandaged appearance in this film could be the result of an all-new power giving her a makeover in the vein of Ultimate Madoka or Devil Homura. In this scenario, Sayaka could embody "Justice", since she valued it so much when she was an ordinary magical girl, or perhaps "Balance", to keep Homura and Madoka's seemingly inevitable battle at bay and preserve balance across the universe.

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Creator/GenUrobuchi has said from the beginning that Sayaka is TheProtagonist, even ahead of [[AllLovingHero Madoka]] and [[{{Deuteragonist}} Homura]]. If he's still holding true to that, then her all-new, bandaged appearance in this film could be the result of an all-new power giving her a makeover in the vein of Ultimate Madoka or Devil Homura. In this scenario, Sayaka could embody "Justice", since she valued it so much when she was an ordinary magical girl, or perhaps "Balance", to keep Homura and Madoka's seemingly inevitable battle at bay and preserve balance across the universe.universe.

[[WMG: The reason for the phone motifs is that a big moment in the film will be Madoka and Homura communicating properly]]

As the events of the series and the movie were caused by the two, despite caring for each other greatly, not communicating their reasons and motivations properly to the other, at some point the two will finally talk and realize that in trying to do right by the other they ended up hurting each other and will resolve to do better. If this is the film's climax or something before a major plot point is to be determined of course.
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* Alternatively, it could be that giving Madoka her powers back, when Homura's filled with despair and curses while linked with the Law of Cycles, would result in Madoka getting corrupted. This contradicting her and Homura's wishes (both granted through an enormous amount of karmic potential), she'll either disappear and become part of the Law again, much to Homura's chagrin, or her non-human half will inherit all that grief instead, resulting in a human Madoka and a Demon Madoka, filled with Homura's sick perception of love rather than hope or her usual selflessness, who spreads curses without necessarily being a Witch. Two Madokas, one for each of Madoka and Homura's wishes. The next conflict for the next movie would be getting Madoka all back together, remembering her purpose as the Law of Cycles and fighting her own literal demons. Pretty unlikely, but this troper would love to read/write a fic of it.

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* Alternatively, it could be that giving Madoka her powers back, when Homura's filled with despair and curses while linked with the Law of Cycles, would result in Madoka getting corrupted. This contradicting her and Homura's wishes (both granted through an enormous amount of karmic potential), she'll either disappear and become part of the Law again, much to Homura's chagrin, or her non-human half will inherit all that grief instead, resulting in a human Madoka and a Demon Madoka, filled with Homura's sick perception of love rather than hope or her usual selflessness, who spreads curses without necessarily being a Witch. Two Madokas, one for each of Madoka and Homura's wishes. The next conflict for the next movie would be getting Madoka all back together, remembering her purpose as the Law of Cycles and fighting her own literal demons. Pretty unlikely, but this troper would love to read/write a fic of it.



* More optimistic look: Seeing as Madoka became a God, she knows what was, is and will be. This troper read a theory about God's omniscience that doesn't contradict free will, (If God knows everything, isn't my fate given right away since birth and either what I do doesn't matter or my choices aren't mine after all?) that he knows about all possibilities that can happen depending on our choices. Kind of like a game with multiple endings. As we know from Sayaka and Nagisa, [=AMG=] gain all of Madokami's knowledge as well. In order to save Homulilly, they only needed a few people. So Madoka picked Sayaka (as the only one of magical girls Homura knew, who turned into a witch - Madoka doesn't count) and Nagisa (who needed to disguise herself as Charlotte so that Kyubey wouldn't find out about them, as Homura never met Nagisa) and borrowed a few familiars of other witches to help her. In order to save Akuma Homura, they would need much more of [=AMG=] and it would be still easier to stop her before she stole Madoka and rewrote universe. It would be still possible afterwards, but way much harder.
When Homura is usurping Madoka's powers, at least Sayaka and Nagisa are still pulling out some sort of ObfuscatingStupidity - they knew that this could happen, they just didn't expect it and didn't get more help. They act shocked, but what they are thinking isn't "Oh God! Somebody stop her! Or else everything will be doomed!" but "Damn, we knew we should have brought more people with us!" Also, Madoka made sure that only she will be affected by either Homura's witch barrier, or by Akuma Homura's new world. Sayaka actually doesn't begin to lose her memories after Homura's handclap, she just pretends to - and as Homura isn't omniscient, she doesn't realise it. So during the movie, [=AMG=] will be trying to help Madoka reaching out to Homura.

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* More optimistic look: Seeing as Madoka became a God, she knows what was, is and will be. This troper read There's a theory about God's omniscience that doesn't contradict free will, (If God knows everything, isn't my fate given right away since birth and either what I do doesn't matter or my choices aren't mine after all?) that he knows about all possibilities that can happen depending on our choices. Kind of like a game with multiple endings. As we know from Sayaka and Nagisa, [=AMG=] gain all of Madokami's knowledge as well. In order to save Homulilly, they only needed a few people. So Madoka picked Sayaka (as the only one of magical girls Homura knew, who turned into a witch - Madoka doesn't count) and Nagisa (who needed to disguise herself as Charlotte so that Kyubey wouldn't find out about them, as Homura never met Nagisa) and borrowed a few familiars of other witches to help her. In order to save Akuma Homura, they would need much more of [=AMG=] and it would be still easier to stop her before she stole Madoka and rewrote universe. It would be still possible afterwards, but way much harder.
When Homura is usurping Madoka's powers, at least Sayaka and Nagisa are still pulling out some sort of ObfuscatingStupidity - they knew that this could happen, they just didn't expect it and didn't get more help. They act shocked, but what they are thinking isn't "Oh God! Somebody stop her! Or else everything will be doomed!" but "Damn, we knew we should have brought more people with us!" Also, Madoka made sure that only she will be affected by either Homura's witch barrier, or by Akuma Homura's new world. Sayaka actually doesn't begin to lose her memories after Homura's handclap, she just pretends to - and as Homura isn't omniscient, she doesn't realise realize it. So during the movie, [=AMG=] will be trying to help Madoka reaching out to Homura.

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Human forms of Witches are partly touched up on as seen with Candeloro from ''A Different Story'', Ophelia from ''Magia Record'', and Homulily from ''Rebellion'', the latter of which seems to have carried on as the trailer shows. However, it has not been fully explored just yet. And that’s not going into the previous [=WMG=] with Witches = Hollows, the Walpurgisnacht = Menos, and ''Magica Record'' having Doppels = Vizards (Shinigami/Puella Magi gaining Hollow/Witch powers).

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Human forms of Witches are partly touched up on as seen with Candeloro from ''A Different Story'', Ophelia from ''Magia Record'', and Homulily from ''Rebellion'', the latter of which seems to have carried on as the trailer shows. However, it has not been fully explored just yet. And that’s not going into the previous [=WMG=] with Witches = Hollows, the Walpurgisnacht = Menos, and ''Magica Record'' having Doppels = Vizards (Shinigami/Puella Magi gaining Hollow/Witch powers).powers).

[[WMG: Sayaka will ascend to her own "divine" form at the end to stop Homura and Madoka from fighting once and for all]]

Creator/GenUrobuchi has said from the beginning that Sayaka is TheProtagonist, even ahead of [[AllLovingHero Madoka]] and [[{{Deuteragonist}} Homura]]. If he's still holding true to that, then her all-new, bandaged appearance in this film could be the result of an all-new power giving her a makeover in the vein of Ultimate Madoka or Devil Homura. In this scenario, Sayaka could embody "Justice", since she valued it so much when she was an ordinary magical girl, or perhaps "Balance", to keep Homura and Madoka's seemingly inevitable battle at bay and preserve balance across the universe.
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The concept movie trailer, Oktavia is seen in a manner very reminiscent of Walpurgisnacht in the original series, as well as shots of what looks like Sayaka beaten up and imprisoned. For this theory, Sayaka still remembers or keeps remembering the Law of Cycles and what Homura did. So what if Homura, for whatever reason, tries to get the others to think of Sayaka as the villain, possibly by making her into her Witch form and sicking her on people. It might possibly be so she can stay or get closer to Madoka as they defeat the "evil monster" together. However, Madoka being Madoka, she'll either develop empathy, get memory flashes, or both, for Sayaka. Eventually she'll realize that Sayaka/Oktavia isn't really a monster and decide to try and help free her/turn her back to normal. This will eventually start cascading as Homura's entire "perfect" world begins to crumble as a result of Madoka remembering more and more.

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The concept movie trailer, Oktavia is seen in a manner very reminiscent of Walpurgisnacht in the original series, as well as shots of what looks like Sayaka beaten up and imprisoned. For this theory, Sayaka still remembers or keeps remembering the Law of Cycles and what Homura did. So what if Homura, for whatever reason, tries to get the others to think of Sayaka as the villain, possibly by making her into her Witch form and sicking her on people. It might possibly be so she can stay or get closer to Madoka as they defeat the "evil monster" together. However, Madoka being Madoka, she'll either develop empathy, get memory flashes, or both, for Sayaka. Eventually she'll realize that Sayaka/Oktavia isn't really a monster and decide to try and help free her/turn her back to normal. This will eventually start cascading as Homura's entire "perfect" world begins to crumble as a result of Madoka remembering more and more.more.

[[WMG:The younger forms of the other Puella Magi are actually Witches in human form, very much like the [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Arrancar]].]]
Human forms of Witches are partly touched up on as seen with Candeloro from ''A Different Story'', Ophelia from ''Magia Record'', and Homulily from ''Rebellion'', the latter of which seems to have carried on as the trailer shows. However, it has not been fully explored just yet. And that’s not going into the previous [=WMG=] with Witches = Hollows, the Walpurgisnacht = Menos, and ''Magica Record'' having Doppels = Vizards (Shinigami/Puella Magi gaining Hollow/Witch powers).
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[[WMG: The second series will feature a couple of actual battles between Madoka and Homura.]]

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[[WMG: The second series movie will feature a couple of actual battles between Madoka and Homura.]]



When Homura is usurping Madoka's powers, at least Sayaka and Nagisa are still pulling out some sort of ObfuscatingStupidity - they knew that this could happen, they just didn't expect it and didn't get more help. They act shocked, but what they are thinking isn't "Oh God! Somebody stop her! Or else everything will be doomed!" but "Damn, we knew we should have brought more people with us!" Also, Madoka made sure that only she will be affected by either Homura's witch barrier, or by Akuma Homura's new world. Sayaka actually doesn't begin to lose her memories after Homura's handclap, she just pretends to - and as Homura isn't omniscient, she doesn't realise it. So during the second season, [=AMG=] will be trying to help Madoka reaching out to Homura.

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When Homura is usurping Madoka's powers, at least Sayaka and Nagisa are still pulling out some sort of ObfuscatingStupidity - they knew that this could happen, they just didn't expect it and didn't get more help. They act shocked, but what they are thinking isn't "Oh God! Somebody stop her! Or else everything will be doomed!" but "Damn, we knew we should have brought more people with us!" Also, Madoka made sure that only she will be affected by either Homura's witch barrier, or by Akuma Homura's new world. Sayaka actually doesn't begin to lose her memories after Homura's handclap, she just pretends to - and as Homura isn't omniscient, she doesn't realise it. So during the second season, movie, [=AMG=] will be trying to help Madoka reaching out to Homura.
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[[WMG:Madoka will turn evil]]
Madoka will eventually end up remembering everything. And she will be so disillusioned by Homura's betrayal and one upping that she will become a {{Knight Templar}} with a side of {{The Evils of Free Will}}. She will end up humiliating Homura in a brutal way and basically embrace {{A God Am I}} to the point where Sayaka rebels out of horror and disgust.
* At this point she becomes a being more powerful than both her Gretchen ''and'' God forms.
* Alternatively, it could be that giving Madoka her powers back, when Homura's filled with despair and curses while linked with the Law of Cycles, would result in Madoka getting corrupted. This contradicting her and Homura's wishes (both granted through an enormous amount of karmic potential), she'll either disappear and become part of the Law again, much to Homura's chagrin, or her non-human half will inherit all that grief instead, resulting in a human Madoka and a Demon Madoka, filled with Homura's sick perception of love rather than hope or her usual selflessness, who spreads curses without necessarily being a Witch. Two Madokas, one for each of Madoka and Homura's wishes. The next conflict for the next movie would be getting Madoka all back together, remembering her purpose as the Law of Cycles and fighting her own literal demons. Pretty unlikely, but this troper would love to read/write a fic of it.
** Additionally, should the rest of the Magical Girls tampered by Akuma Homura realize what's going on, Madoka would receive the aid of many former Witches for the fight. Them being depowered, this would mean they'd have to [[SaveTheVillain save Kyubey from the curses]] and contract in order to undo the damage done to the Law of Cycles.
[[WMG: The second series will feature a couple of actual battles between Madoka and Homura.]]
However:
* 1. [[AllLovingHero Madoka's]] goal will be not to destroy or punish but save Homura.
* 2. Those fights will not be the main conflict. There will be an internal conflict within Homura herself - Homura knows that what she did (or at least the way she did it) was wrong and somewhere deep down inside, [[HelplessGoodSide she wants to be forgiven and redeemed, but just can't bring herself to call for help]].

Then there are (as of now formerly) ascended magical girls (only [=AMG=] later) and how they will react.
* More optimistic look: Seeing as Madoka became a God, she knows what was, is and will be. This troper read a theory about God's omniscience that doesn't contradict free will, (If God knows everything, isn't my fate given right away since birth and either what I do doesn't matter or my choices aren't mine after all?) that he knows about all possibilities that can happen depending on our choices. Kind of like a game with multiple endings. As we know from Sayaka and Nagisa, [=AMG=] gain all of Madokami's knowledge as well. In order to save Homulilly, they only needed a few people. So Madoka picked Sayaka (as the only one of magical girls Homura knew, who turned into a witch - Madoka doesn't count) and Nagisa (who needed to disguise herself as Charlotte so that Kyubey wouldn't find out about them, as Homura never met Nagisa) and borrowed a few familiars of other witches to help her. In order to save Akuma Homura, they would need much more of [=AMG=] and it would be still easier to stop her before she stole Madoka and rewrote universe. It would be still possible afterwards, but way much harder.
When Homura is usurping Madoka's powers, at least Sayaka and Nagisa are still pulling out some sort of ObfuscatingStupidity - they knew that this could happen, they just didn't expect it and didn't get more help. They act shocked, but what they are thinking isn't "Oh God! Somebody stop her! Or else everything will be doomed!" but "Damn, we knew we should have brought more people with us!" Also, Madoka made sure that only she will be affected by either Homura's witch barrier, or by Akuma Homura's new world. Sayaka actually doesn't begin to lose her memories after Homura's handclap, she just pretends to - and as Homura isn't omniscient, she doesn't realise it. So during the second season, [=AMG=] will be trying to help Madoka reaching out to Homura.

* Less optimistic look: Madoka and [=AMG=] really didn't know about the Akuma Homura possibility at all and are equally shocked by it, as the other characters present (Kyouko, Mami and Kyubey). Once Madoka regains her memories and powers, the [=AMG=] will get theirs back too. And many of them will be against saving Homura - after all, she selfishly captured magical girls' goddess! They will try to either destroy Homura themselves, or will appeal to Madoka to see Homura as a person, who completely turned evil and is beyond any redemption possibility. Altough they don't want to [[BreakTheCutie break Madoka]], both of those ways (attacks or appeals) may lead to it. The only way to prevent a complete DownerEnding here is that Homura doesn't completely succumb to evil (even if [=AMG=] may already percieve her that way), and even that doesn't guarantee any ending yet.

[[WMG: Another theory on what the sequel could look like]]
So this troper has been thinking a lot about what he'd do to pick up and conclude the story from where Rebellion left off, and have it done in a way that would fit the tone of the show and movies... And this is the ending I came up with:
* Madoka's system is still somehow in place even if Madoka herself isn't actively aware of her part in it, though she's still tied to the Law of Cycles in a sort of "Piccolo and Kami from DBZ" kind of way.
* At some point, Madoka stumbles upon Mami or Sayaka or someone else doing battle with a Wraith
* The sight of this causes Madoka's memories to start surfacing.
* Homura intervenes and tries to calm Madoka down again.
* [[NiceJobBreakingItHero As a direct result of this]], Madoka is hit by one of the Wraith's attacks and dies. [[FromBadToWorse This then causes the entire Homuverse to completely collapse.]]
* [[ShootTheShaggyDog Madokami now dead, the entire Law of the Cycles system is also completely torn down and the entire universe reverts back to how it was back at the beginning of the story.]]
* Homura wakes up right back in the hospital, still somehow remembering everything that's happened, but somehow her powers are all gone. She is no longer a devil, a witch, or even a magical girl. Also Madoka is still dead.
* As a result of her having now been directly involved with the rewriting of the universe no less than three times, the now de-powered Homura suddenly finds herself with the same kind of unfathomable magic potential Madoka had in the show.
* Kyubey naturally takes an interest and approaches her about this, and Homura thinks that she ''could'' use this chance to bring Madoka back to life.
* However, realizing that literally every single attempt she's made to save Madoka has inevitably ended in horrible failure, she finally accepts that this is futile, and decides that if she can't save Madoka's ''life'', she can at least honor her by trying to restore Madoka's ''solution'', which she herself is at this point 100% responsible for messing up.
* Thus, Homura ends up making the exact same wish Madoka made in the series, restoring Madoka's world with herself as the "Law of Cycles" in place of Madoka. [[BittersweetEnding So while Madoka remains dead, Homura has found a way to atone for her monumental fuck-up and set things right, nobody remains in the new world to tell Kyubey about the witches and so the events of Rebellion will never repeat themselves]], and there will never be another sequel again because seriously guys, the story is clearly over right now and there is no possible way to make any further stories with these characters!

[[WMG: Homura's past self could return.]]

Homura has completely cast off her past self, her more selfless self, and embraced a far more selfish way of thinking. But what if that side of her is still out there somewhere? After all, Madoka was split in two. Would it be such a stretch to assume the same might have happened to Homura?

[[WMG: Homucifer and Godoka... [[AntiClimax will]] ''[[AntiClimax not]]'' [[AntiClimax fight each-other]].]]

Neither one of them would be able to bring themselves to hurt the other.

Even after all of her moral corruption and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope rapid descent into apparent villainy]], Homura still seems to, in one way or another, love Madoka, and she seeks a final end to Madoka's pain and suffering. It's the reason she became Homucifer and rewrote the universe in the first place - [[WellIntentionedExtremist she wants Madoka to be happy, even if Madoka herself doesn't want to be]]. With that in mind, Homura would be betraying her own motivations if she ever directly attacked Madoka. If you fought for years on end to keep someone safe, what would any of it mean if ''you'' ended up being the one to hurt them?

Likewise, Madoka, being the AllLovingHero that she is, has never been shown willingly hurting any of her friends, even in the timelines where she had to face off against Oktavia or Candeloro, AKA Sayaka and Mami. In spite of what Homura did to her, Madoka likely wouldn't count Homura as an exception to this. If anything, she'd probably feel even less inclined to hurt Homura, given that she knows just how much Homura has suffered. And unlike the aforementioned witches, Homura isn't an AlmightyIdiot, [[HopeSpot meaning that she still has a conscience for Madoka to try to reason with]].

As for what would happen if they finally did reach some sort of standoff... that's another theory altogether. The only given would be some variation of EverybodyCries.


[[WMG: Homura will try and make Sayaka seem like the enemy.]]
The concept movie trailer, Oktavia is seen in a manner very reminiscent of Walpurgisnacht in the original series, as well as shots of what looks like Sayaka beaten up and imprisoned. For this theory, Sayaka still remembers or keeps remembering the Law of Cycles and what Homura did. So what if Homura, for whatever reason, tries to get the others to think of Sayaka as the villain, possibly by making her into her Witch form and sicking her on people. It might possibly be so she can stay or get closer to Madoka as they defeat the "evil monster" together. However, Madoka being Madoka, she'll either develop empathy, get memory flashes, or both, for Sayaka. Eventually she'll realize that Sayaka/Oktavia isn't really a monster and decide to try and help free her/turn her back to normal. This will eventually start cascading as Homura's entire "perfect" world begins to crumble as a result of Madoka remembering more and more.

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