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[[WMG: Ragnarok wasn't the end of the world, it was the end of the Viking era.]]
And things got exaggerated.
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Because [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretatio_graeca the Greeks said so]]. (Wednesday--Woden's Day-- is ''Dies Mercurii'' in Latin.)

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Because [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretatio_graeca org/wiki/Interpretatio_germanica the Greeks and Romans said so]]. (Wednesday--Woden's Day-- is ''Dies Mercurii'' in Latin.)
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[[WMG: [[RuleOfThree Odin is Poseidon in disguise]]]]

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[[WMG: [[RuleOfThree Odin is Poseidon in wearing a disguise]]]]



[[WMG: Odin is Hermes in disguise.]]

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[[WMG: Odin is Hermes in wearing a disguise.]]
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[[WMG: Odin is Hermes in disguise.]]
Because [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretatio_graeca the Greeks said so]]. (Wednesday--Woden's Day-- is ''Dies Mercurii'' in Latin.)
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[[WMG: Heimdall has albinism]]
He's known as "the whitest of all gods". It stands to reason that all viking gods are white, so logically Heimdall should be unusually pale for his whiteness to be mentioned.

[[WMG: Loki is pansexual and genderqueer]]
That Sleipnir deal was forced by circumstances, but Loki's other children include Jormungard and Fenrir, whose origin is not mentioned which propably means they were conceived similiarly to Sleipnir (with animals). Loki was apparently also known to have sex with male humans while in female form for no real reason.
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[[WMG: Odin is a time lord]]
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[[WMG: [[Odin is Athena wearing a disguise]]]]

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[[WMG: [[Odin Odin is Athena wearing a disguise]]]]disguise]]
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[[WMG: Hel was able to release Baldr after Ragnarok because Loki died.]]
The deal, the spell, was that Baldr would be released if everyone alive would weep for him. Everyone did, except the giant Thokk who was Loki in disguise. After Loki was killed in Ragnarok; the conditions of the spell were realized.

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*But he didn't plan for [[EvilIsBurningHot Surt]] surviving Ragnarok so the fire giant will attack him. Since Surt will be weakened from his fight with [[LightIsGood Frey]], Surt and Baldr will mutual kill each other leaving [[TheHero Vidar]] as the new ruler of the restored world.


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Someone had to say it.
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[[WMG: Odin is a time lord]]
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***Equating Ragnarok with the [[WarArc time war]] from [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who]]
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[[WMG: [[Odin is Athena wearing a disguise]]]]
A spear-wielding wise deity of war, anyone?
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His death was actually a MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning, manipulating Loki into killing him. Once on Hel, he convinces her to state that she'll free him if everyone and everything cries for him (having a tremendous egocentrism, its easy to see why); he also asks for Hel to say to her father to disguise himself and not cry for him. However, what Loki didn't count on was Baldr communicating to the messangers of the gods (Odin's ravens most likely) saying who Angrboda really was, ending with the poor god suffering with the snake venom and all. Meanwhile, the gods gets sad and paranoid, and Baldr gets to build his armies. Eventually, he might send someone to free Loki, or somehow Loki frees himself, and in either case Baldr offers him the armies as a "gift for getting punished". Afterwards, Loki dies alongside with most of the army and nearly all of the gods while Baldr becomes the sole governor of the world!

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His death was actually a MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning, manipulating Loki into killing him. Once on Hel, he convinces her to state that she'll free him if everyone and everything cries for him (having a tremendous egocentrism, its easy to see why); he also asks for Hel to say to her father to disguise himself and not cry for him. However, what Loki didn't count on was Baldr communicating to the messangers messengers of the gods (Odin's ravens most likely) saying who Angrboda really was, ending with the poor god suffering with the snake venom and all. Meanwhile, the gods gets sad and paranoid, and Baldr gets to build his armies. Eventually, he might send someone to free Loki, or somehow Loki frees himself, and in either case Baldr offers him the armies as a "gift for getting punished". Afterwards, Loki dies alongside with most of the army and nearly all of the gods while Baldr becomes the sole governor of the world!
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* At least some of them could be foster children, adopted children, or sons-in-law (although the myths don't mention any ''daughters'', so the last one is a stretch)
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Thor, Balder, Vidar, Hoder, Bragi, Hermod, Vali, Tyr, and Heimdall are all cited as sons of Odin in various places. That's virtually all the Aesir mentioned. But then, some of these figures are given other fathers in other sources, complicating matters. So perhaps they just use "son" to mean "subject". After all, Odin's title is "all-father", possibly meant in the same way a crime boss's underlings might call him "father" or "uncle".

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Thor, Balder, Vidar, Hoder, Bragi, Hermod, Vali, Tyr, and Heimdall are all cited as sons of Odin in various places. That's virtually all the Aesir mentioned. But then, some of these figures are given other fathers in other sources, complicating matters. So perhaps they just use "son" to mean "subject". After all, Odin's title is "all-father", possibly meant in the same way a crime boss's underlings might call him "father" or "uncle"."uncle".
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Thor, Balder, Vidar, Hoder, Bragi, Hermod, Vali, Tyr, and Heimdall are all cited as sons of Odin in various places. That's virtually all the Aesir mentioned. But then, some of these figures are given other fathers in other sources, complicating matters. So perhaps they just use "son" to mean "subject". After all, Odin's title is "all-father", possibly meant in the same way as "Don".

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Thor, Balder, Vidar, Hoder, Bragi, Hermod, Vali, Tyr, and Heimdall are all cited as sons of Odin in various places. That's virtually all the Aesir mentioned. But then, some of these figures are given other fathers in other sources, complicating matters. So perhaps they just use "son" to mean "subject". After all, Odin's title is "all-father", possibly meant in the same way as "Don".a crime boss's underlings might call him "father" or "uncle".

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This seems more likely, since he's a death god. The reason his two brothers aren't mentioned much is because they really bug him, and he was hoping to have a cult of worshippers who admired rather than feared him without having to share. Obvious, really.

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This seems more likely, since he's a death god. The reason his two brothers "Vili" and "Ve" aren't mentioned much is because they Hades' brothers really bug him, and he was hoping to have a cult of worshippers who admired rather than feared him without having to share. Obvious, really.



It also gives Loki even more reason to be seriously pissed off with the gods when he eventually gets free.

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It also gives Loki even more reason to be seriously pissed off with the gods when he eventually gets free.free.

[[WMG: When Norse poems call a god "son of Odin" it's not necessarily literal]]
Thor, Balder, Vidar, Hoder, Bragi, Hermod, Vali, Tyr, and Heimdall are all cited as sons of Odin in various places. That's virtually all the Aesir mentioned. But then, some of these figures are given other fathers in other sources, complicating matters. So perhaps they just use "son" to mean "subject". After all, Odin's title is "all-father", possibly meant in the same way as "Don".
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Odin became Santa, and St. Nick is the patron of sailors. [[OverlyLongGang Obvious, really]].

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Odin became Santa, and St. Nick is the patron of sailors. [[OverlyLongGang [[OverlyLongGag Obvious, really]].
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Because I really like the ComicBook/EarthX explanation of where they came from and 2001: ASpaceOdyssey doesn't have enough interpretation.

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Because I really like the ComicBook/EarthX explanation of where they came from and 2001: ASpaceOdyssey ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey'' doesn't have enough interpretation.
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**Of course Fenris is Fenric, that was the entire point of the episode.

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Maybe he did it, but it wasn't necessarily down to free will. We don't have that much information on Sigyn, anyone married to Loki is bound to be at least a little crazy, and NO ONE is selfless enough to spend the remainder of their immortal life underground catching snake venom when there are vastly more interesting things to be doing - there has to be SOMETHING not right here. Hodr was killed for causing Baldr's death, and Loki was punished for causing Hodr to cause Baldr's death, but Hodr was just a link in a chain. So what if somehow it's Sigyn causing Loki to cause Hodr to kill Baldr, creating a chain of events that haven't been atoned for and making an already-convoluted mythology even more confusing. And who'd suspect Sigyn (who, as previously mentioned, SEEMS pretty selfless and forgiving) when there's Loki - chaotic, capricious and generally not easy to trust - in the picture? Alternatively, any mythological reveal of this was lost over centuries. It also gives Loki even more reason to be seriously pissed off with the gods when he eventually gets free.

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Maybe he did it, but it wasn't necessarily down to free will.
We don't have that much information on Sigyn, anyone married to Loki is bound to be at least a little crazy, and NO ONE is selfless enough to spend the remainder of their immortal life underground catching snake venom when there are vastly more interesting things to be doing - there has to be SOMETHING not right here. here.
Hodr was killed for causing Baldr's death, and Loki was punished for causing Hodr to cause Baldr's death, but Hodr was just a link in a chain. So what if somehow it's Sigyn causing Loki to cause Hodr to kill Baldr, creating a chain of events that haven't been atoned for and making an already-convoluted mythology even more confusing. And who'd suspect Sigyn (who, as previously mentioned, SEEMS pretty selfless and forgiving) when there's Loki - chaotic, capricious and generally not easy to trust - in the picture? picture?
Alternatively, any mythological reveal of this was lost over centuries. centuries.
It also gives Loki even more reason to be seriously pissed off with the gods when he eventually gets free.
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Odin became Santa, and St. Nick is the patron of sailors. [[OverlyLongGang Obvious, really]].

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Odin became Santa, and St. Nick is the patron of sailors. [[OverlyLongGang Obvious, really]].really]].

[[WMG: Baldr's death wasn't Loki's idea]]
Maybe he did it, but it wasn't necessarily down to free will. We don't have that much information on Sigyn, anyone married to Loki is bound to be at least a little crazy, and NO ONE is selfless enough to spend the remainder of their immortal life underground catching snake venom when there are vastly more interesting things to be doing - there has to be SOMETHING not right here. Hodr was killed for causing Baldr's death, and Loki was punished for causing Hodr to cause Baldr's death, but Hodr was just a link in a chain. So what if somehow it's Sigyn causing Loki to cause Hodr to kill Baldr, creating a chain of events that haven't been atoned for and making an already-convoluted mythology even more confusing. And who'd suspect Sigyn (who, as previously mentioned, SEEMS pretty selfless and forgiving) when there's Loki - chaotic, capricious and generally not easy to trust - in the picture? Alternatively, any mythological reveal of this was lost over centuries. It also gives Loki even more reason to be seriously pissed off with the gods when he eventually gets free.
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Loki's plan in that story hinged on the farmer/peasant's son being fast enough to outrun the Jotun so as to trick it into impaling itself. Thjalfi is the son of a farmer and one of his most important traits is his speed, to the point where he only barely loses a race against the manifestation of thought itself. Coincidence? Probably.

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Loki's plan in that story hinged on the farmer/peasant's son being fast enough to outrun the Jotun so as to trick it into impaling itself. Thjalfi is the son of a farmer and one of his most important traits is his speed, to the point where he only barely loses a race against the manifestation of thought itself. Coincidence? Probably.Probably.

[[WMG: Odin is Zeus wearing a disguise]]
He rules the Norse pantheon in a guise that would make the wild and hardy Norsemen more likely to accept him. Come on, he's the chief of the gods, lives in a palace in the sky and he has two brothers! It's obvious, really.

[[WMG: Odin is Hades wearing a disguise]]
This seems more likely, since he's a death god. The reason his two brothers aren't mentioned much is because they really bug him, and he was hoping to have a cult of worshippers who admired rather than feared him without having to share. Obvious, really.

[[WMG: [[RuleOfThree Odin is Poseidon in disguise]]]]
Odin became Santa, and St. Nick is the patron of sailors. [[OverlyLongGang Obvious, really]].
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Hell, considering how there might be nothing really heavy enough to give him a real workout, at least nothing he could encounter on a regular enough basis, he might actually be fairly lithe to boot.

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Hell, considering how there might be nothing really heavy enough to give him a real workout, at least nothing he could encounter on a regular enough basis, he might actually be fairly lithe to boot.boot.

[[WMG: Thjalfi is the farmer's son from Loka Táttur, and Loki planned on recruiting him from the start.]]

Loki's plan in that story hinged on the farmer/peasant's son being fast enough to outrun the Jotun so as to trick it into impaling itself. Thjalfi is the son of a farmer and one of his most important traits is his speed, to the point where he only barely loses a race against the manifestation of thought itself. Coincidence? Probably.
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Because I really like the EarthX explanation of where they came from and 2001: ASpaceOdyssey doesn't have enough interpretation.

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Because I really like the EarthX ComicBook/EarthX explanation of where they came from and 2001: ASpaceOdyssey doesn't have enough interpretation.
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**What are you even talking about?
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** ... Except you did laugh
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If the idea that NorseMythology is a prequel to Christianity was to be used, Niddhogg, the last surviving dragon, could very well be what we know as Satan, what with Lucifer being a dragon in the Apocalypse and all. Following the idea, Baldr is Jesus.

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If the idea that NorseMythology Norse Mythology is a prequel to Christianity was to be used, Niddhogg, the last surviving dragon, could very well be what we know as Satan, what with Lucifer being a dragon in the Apocalypse and all. Following the idea, Baldr is Jesus.
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* The stories make an awful lot more sense if you replace 'Giant' with 'Titan'.

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