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I realise quite a lot of fans would '''[[TabletopGame/WarHammer40000 BLAM]]''' me for suggesting such a Heresy, but just hear me out. Think about how they make use of titles like "Princess"; regardless of their internal reasoning for doing so, such a title still implies a dynastic succession of monarchs, something which can really only happen if said monarchs are capable of dying (okay, I guess you could suggest that Celestia and Luna's parents simply stepped down or something, but where would they be now in that case? would we be expected to believe that the geriatric old King and Queen are rotting away in some isolated castle chamber?). I think it's entirely possible to assume that the Princesses, and by extension, all Equestrian monarchs, are something more akin to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Tolkien's]] elves-- "enlightened" beings who wield extraordinary arcane powers and cannot die of old age, but are still vulnerable to disease, weapons, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever growing weary of life]], etc...that said, the suggestion is not that they're any less powerful in terms of the things they can do-- merely that they are not one-of-a-kind, probably have parents who met some unfortunate end in the very distant past (remember, in the story told in the pilot, Celestia and Luna were already in charge a thousand years ago), and are only immortal in the sense that they cannot die of natural causes.
* Possibly supported by the outcome of Celestia's fight against [[spoiler:the Changeling queen]] in the second part of "A Canterlot Wedding": [[spoiler:Celestia ''loses'' against an enemy who's clearly just about as surprised as she is]].

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I realise quite a lot of fans would '''[[TabletopGame/WarHammer40000 BLAM]]''' me for suggesting such a Heresy, but just hear me out. Think about how they make use of titles like "Princess"; regardless of their internal reasoning for doing so, such a title still implies a dynastic succession of monarchs, something which can really only happen if said monarchs are capable of dying (okay, I guess you could suggest that Celestia and Luna's parents simply stepped down or something, but where would they be now in that case? would we be expected to believe that the geriatric old King and Queen are rotting away in some isolated castle chamber?). I think it's entirely possible to assume that the Princesses, and by extension, all Equestrian monarchs, are something more akin to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Tolkien's]] elves-- elves -- "enlightened" beings who wield extraordinary arcane powers and cannot die of old age, but are still vulnerable to disease, weapons, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever growing weary of life]], etc...etc... that said, the suggestion is not that they're any less powerful in terms of the things they can do-- do -- merely that they are not one-of-a-kind, probably have parents who met some unfortunate end in the very distant past (remember, in the story told in the pilot, Celestia and Luna were already in charge a thousand years ago), and are only immortal in the sense that they cannot die of natural causes.
* Possibly supported by the outcome of Celestia's fight against [[spoiler:the the Changeling queen]] queen in the second part of "A Canterlot Wedding": [[spoiler:Celestia Celestia ''loses'' against an enemy who's clearly just about as surprised as she is]].is.




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* Generally speaking, there's been a fair bit of evidence supporting this view over the show's run. Besides Celestia losing her fight against Chrysalis, there is also how in "The Crystalling" Luna and Celestia, even working together, were only able to temporarily hold back the uncontrolled weather of the Frozen North and were eventually forced to give up and return to the Crystal Empire, or how during "To Where and Back Again" they were defeated and captured (of-screen, for that matter) by Chrysalis' changeling soldiers. By contrast, there haven't actually been any situations where the alicorns were shown or stated to be able to curb-stomp powerful enemies or perform god-like feats -- even their most powerful feat, raising the sun and moon, is something that a group of unicorns working together would still be able to accomplish, as per "Hearth's Warming Eve". All in all, while still certainly much more powerful than common ponies, alicorns certainly aren't godlike, and in terms of raw power are definitely below the level of magical heavyweights like Tirek or Discord.
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[[WMG: Flurry Heart will grow up to be the [[ActualPacifist Princess of Peace/Diplomacy]].]]
Given the fact that the premise of the show revolves around the elements of friendship and most of the Equestrian royalty has already covered some of them (Mane 6 = Friendship itself; Princess Cadance = Love; Princess Celestia and Luna = Harmony), it's only natural that peace/diplomacy is one of the remaining elements left that Flurry Heart could exhibit once she's sufficiently grown.
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* Fluttershy: Terminally introverted. Would no want to deal with so many strangers all at once.

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* Fluttershy: Terminally introverted. Would no not want to deal with so many strangers all at once.



* Twilight Sparkle: As the personal apprentice of the Princess, has spent some time in the Royal Court. At the very least, knows ow to handle herself in such a situation.
In short, the only ones Celestia actually expected to want to go would be Twilight and Rarity. Too bad she didn;t factor in ulterior motives...
* Alternatively, she might have been expecting twilight to being ''Spike'' along, since was probably with Twilight for at least some of her time in the royal court and seemed to socialize more in Canterlot than Twilight herself did. Plus there's a buffet. And given the loose timeframe, it's possible that she sent the tickets ''before'' she got to know Twilight's friends very well, hence not considering inviting them.

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* Twilight Sparkle: As the personal apprentice of the Princess, she has spent some time in the Royal Court. At the very least, she knows ow how to handle herself in such a situation.
** In short, the only ones Celestia actually expected to want to go would be Twilight and Rarity. Too bad she didn;t didn't factor in ulterior motives...
* ** Alternatively, she might have been expecting twilight Twilight to being ''Spike'' along, since he was probably with Twilight for at least some of her time in the royal court and seemed to socialize more in Canterlot than Twilight herself did. Plus there's a buffet. And given the loose timeframe, it's possible that she sent the tickets ''before'' she got to know Twilight's friends very well, hence not considering inviting them.

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* Jossed. "The Crystalling" did not involve any kidnapping.


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* Confirmed, with Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Cadance and Shining Armor trying to keep Flurry Heart under control while the others tried to figure out a way to repair the Crystal Heart.
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Princess Celestia is in charge of rising the sun and Luna is in charge of bring the night. So it's possible that Princess Cadance is also in *charge of some major natural event. Maybe she carves the land or controls the tides?

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Princess Celestia is in charge of rising the sun and Luna is in charge of bring the night. So it's possible that Princess Cadance is also in *charge charge of some major natural event. Maybe she carves the land or controls the tides?

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Princess Celestia is in charge of rising the sun and Luna is in charge of bring the night. So it's possible that Princess Cadance is also in charge of some major natural event. Maybe she carves the land or controls the tides?

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Princess Celestia is in charge of rising the sun and Luna is in charge of bring the night. So it's possible that Princess Cadance is also in charge *charge of some major natural event. Maybe she carves the land or controls the tides?




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* Amusingly enough, the "mother" part ended up being quite literal in late Season 5/start of Season 6.


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*** Okay, that one is ActuallyPrettyFunny.
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* I ''KNEW I'' [[StrangeMindsThinkAlike couldn't have been the only one thinking this]]! After seeing Discord [[BreakTheCutie break]] and MindRape five of the Mane Six and remembering reading that LaurenFaust [[WordOfGod said]] that Luna had been turned into Nightmare Moon by evil magic, it wasn't hard at all to imagine Discord played with Luna's insecurities of being in charge of the time phase when everypony's asleep shortly before his first defeat. And while he was defeated anyway, the seeds of doubt were already sowed...

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* I ''KNEW I'' [[StrangeMindsThinkAlike couldn't have been the only one thinking this]]! After seeing Discord [[BreakTheCutie break]] and MindRape five of the Mane Six and remembering reading that LaurenFaust Creator/LaurenFaust [[WordOfGod said]] that Luna had been turned into Nightmare Moon by evil magic, it wasn't hard at all to imagine Discord played with Luna's insecurities of being in charge of the time phase when everypony's asleep shortly before his first defeat. And while he was defeated anyway, the seeds of doubt were already sowed...
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* She's a robot... [[FriendshipIsWitchcraft who will go on a destructive rampage on said discovery of being a robot]]. [[note]] hey, they [[HilariousInHindsight predicted the]] [[IKnewIt first half of the newly weds]].[[/note]]

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* She's a robot... [[FriendshipIsWitchcraft [[WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft who will go on a destructive rampage on said discovery of being a robot]]. [[note]] hey, they [[HilariousInHindsight predicted the]] [[IKnewIt first half of the newly weds]].[[/note]]
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She flew down from the castle and single-handedly beat down countless Changelings while defending her subjects. Why doesn't she remember it? Because she was sleepwalking at the time. Hence, she made her royal asswhooping with her eyes closed while [[BrianBlessed shouting something incoherent about a petrol shortage.]]

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She flew down from the castle and single-handedly beat down countless Changelings while defending her subjects. Why doesn't she remember it? Because she was sleepwalking at the time. Hence, she made her royal asswhooping with her eyes closed while [[BrianBlessed [[Creator/BrianBlessed shouting something incoherent about a petrol shortage.]]
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"She remember your heart when Men are fairy tales and books written by Rabbits."

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"She will remember your heart when Men are fairy tales and books written by Rabbits."
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I felt it was an interesting theory.

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[[WMG: Celestia is Amalthea from The Last Unicorn.]]
This is simply so far in the future that the humanity has died out. Either the Ponies evolved on their own, or the rest of the Unicorns eventually became them (with Amalthea somehow only becoming more powerful because of her experiences in love and loss.) Going along with this, Starswirl the Bearded could've been Shmendrick, who managed to turn himself into a unicorn eventually (who knows, maybe he's still around during the show's time). Sometime, one of the Mane Six will ask Celestia why she never dates. She, uncharacteristically grave, will gaze whistfully into the distance and remark "I loved once, I shall never love again." They might even hear her whisper the name "Lir," while a solitary tear rolls down her cheek. To compound the reference, at one point, Angel bunny will write a novel.
"She remember your heart when Men are fairy tales and books written by Rabbits."
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...but instead became the Alicorn equivalent of [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Princess Azula]] prior to her VillainousBreakdown: She grew incredibly paranoid, constantly looking over her shoulder for possible usurpers and assassins, relying on extremes to dealing with opponents and opposing forces rather than be diplomatic, sleeping with a dagger under her pillow (if at all), banishing anyone who even so much as looked at her funny, isolating herself and forbidding herself from making friends, and dreading each day as if her sister would come back and finish her. It wouldn't be until decades later that she would get over this phase after seeing the effect it has on herself, her subjects and her kingdom.

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...but instead became the Alicorn equivalent of [[AvatarTheLastAirbender [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Princess Azula]] prior to her VillainousBreakdown: She grew incredibly paranoid, constantly looking over her shoulder for possible usurpers and assassins, relying on extremes to dealing with opponents and opposing forces rather than be diplomatic, sleeping with a dagger under her pillow (if at all), banishing anyone who even so much as looked at her funny, isolating herself and forbidding herself from making friends, and dreading each day as if her sister would come back and finish her. It wouldn't be until decades later that she would get over this phase after seeing the effect it has on herself, her subjects and her kingdom.



Assuming WingedUnicorns are some sort of divinity/royalty whatnot of the world, it makes sense that Celestia and Luna are immortal and divine at some level, as they embody the sun and the moon and those aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Cadance could be the embodiment of equinity (humanity) itself, and instead of distancing herself from her little ponies, Cadance lives a mortal lifespan as a mortal pony, then is reborn a new mare, similar to the Dalai Lama or the Avatar of WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender, with her Avatar State being composed of ThePowerOfLove. This one is relatively young, and one of her older selves got in a little trouble with a love potion once.

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Assuming WingedUnicorns are some sort of divinity/royalty whatnot of the world, it makes sense that Celestia and Luna are immortal and divine at some level, as they embody the sun and the moon and those aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Cadance could be the embodiment of equinity (humanity) itself, and instead of distancing herself from her little ponies, Cadance lives a mortal lifespan as a mortal pony, then is reborn a new mare, similar to the Dalai Lama or the Avatar of WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender, ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', with her Avatar State being composed of ThePowerOfLove. This one is relatively young, and one of her older selves got in a little trouble with a love potion once.
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*** Huh? Equestria is a country which stretches from coast to coast, and Manehattan is on the sea coast. (Seaponies didn't appear in the show proper so far, but the Mane Six visited their underwater kingdom in the ''Under the Sparkling Sea'' book.)

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*** Huh? Equestria is a country which stretches from coast to coast, and Manehattan is on (or, more accurately, off) the sea coast. (Seaponies didn't appear in the show proper so far, but the Mane Six visited their underwater kingdom in the ''Under the Sparkling Sea'' book.)

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*** On a related note, the only types of ponies in her kingdom are the ones that somewhat resemble her (the Earth ponies, the pegusi, and unicorns). What the hell happened to the Flutter ponies or the Sea ponies? Celestia must be a fan of ethnic cleansing...
*** Since Equestria doesn't seem to have a coast (or at least, the sea hasn't been shown) its possible the Sea Ponies just are not shown because they live elsewhere.
*** The Flutter Ponies were isolationists, they're probably living happily of Flutter Valley.

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On a related note, the only types of ponies in her kingdom are the ones that somewhat resemble her (the Earth ponies, the pegusi, and unicorns). What the hell happened to the Flutter ponies or the Sea ponies? Celestia must be a fan of ethnic cleansing...
*** ** Since Equestria doesn't seem to have a coast (or at least, the sea hasn't been shown) its possible the Sea Ponies just are not shown because they live elsewhere.
*** Huh? Equestria is a country which stretches from coast to coast, and Manehattan is on the sea coast. (Seaponies didn't appear in the show proper so far, but the Mane Six visited their underwater kingdom in the ''Under the Sparkling Sea'' book.)
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The Flutter Ponies were isolationists, they're probably living happily of Flutter Valley.



*** From what I recall the Flutter Ponies always used their powers to counter other beings magic. In other words they didn't have magical powers, but [[AntiMagic anti-magical powers.]]

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*** ** From what I recall the Flutter Ponies always used their powers to counter other beings magic. In other words they didn't have magical powers, but [[AntiMagic anti-magical powers.]]



*** Who's to say that Twilight even knows Flutter Ponies exist? Sure, she's smart, but if they're isolated away from the rest of pony society, everypony might just be unaware of them.
*** Stop denying the obvious! Where do you think the ponies' marshmallows came from?

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*** ** Who's to say that Twilight even knows Flutter Ponies exist? Sure, she's smart, but if they're isolated away from the rest of pony society, everypony might just be unaware of them.
*** ** Stop denying the obvious! Where do you think the ponies' marshmallows came from?
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[[WMG: Flurry Heart will become an in-universe equivalent to [[Anime/DragonBallZ Son Gohan]].]]
She's already a unicorn/alicorn hybrid, and it's shown that she has more power than most adult ponies at her age. Not only that, but she accidentally destroyed the Crystal Heart merely by crying, which can be compared to Gohan's bursts of rage, showing her true potential. Now all we need is for her to find a way to transform like the Mane 6's Rainbow Power, and we have a clear connection.
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Celestia mentions Sombra, but doesn't warn Twilight about him or give her the Elements. Keep in mind, Celestia's knowledge of the Empire is also limited, so she likely didn't know of the Crystal Heart either. She and Luna imprisoned Sombra and the Empire vanished, but it's possible Sombra was taken off guard and defeated before he could show off his DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the Royal Pony Sisters. Shining Armor and Cadence didn't seem to know about Sombra's return either until they actually got there (they were on the way when Twilight was dispatched). Celestia may have thought it was possible King Sombra would return, but she believed Twilight and company would be more than a match for him if he did. She didn't know of the traps he'd set or how dangerous they were, or that it'd take an ancient relic to destroy him. Unlike Discord, who's her archenemy, all she knew about Sombra was he was a horrible tyrant and had some degree of black magic she managed to learn. The fact Sombra had set so many traps and how dangerous they'd be, as well as what Sombra himself could do (such as spreading dark crystals across the entire empire in ''seconds'' and nullify unicorns' magic). Finding out he'd come within a hairsbreadth of winning was as much a surprise to her as everyone else.

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Celestia mentions Sombra, but doesn't warn Twilight about him or give her the Elements. Keep in mind, Celestia's knowledge of the Empire is also limited, so she likely didn't know of the Crystal Heart either. She and Luna imprisoned Sombra and the Empire vanished, but it's possible Sombra was taken off guard and defeated before he could show off his DangerouslyGenreSavvy threat to the Royal Pony Sisters. Shining Armor and Cadence didn't seem to know about Sombra's return either until they actually got there (they were on the way when Twilight was dispatched). Celestia may have thought it was possible King Sombra would return, but she believed Twilight and company would be more than a match for him if he did. She didn't know of the traps he'd set or how dangerous they were, or that it'd take an ancient relic to destroy him. Unlike Discord, who's her archenemy, all she knew about Sombra was he was a horrible tyrant and had some degree of black magic she managed to learn. The fact Sombra had set so many traps and how dangerous they'd be, as well as what Sombra himself could do (such as spreading dark crystals across the entire empire in ''seconds'' and nullify unicorns' magic). Finding out he'd come within a hairsbreadth of winning was as much a surprise to her as everyone else.
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[[WMG: Celestia doesn't like Starlight Glimmer.]]
She looked so annoyed when Starlight didn't show up for the dinner in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances "No Second Prances"]] because she doesn't believe Starlight has redeemed herself and she thinks Twilight taking her as a student was a mistake.
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Who knows? Maybe Prince Blueblood will actually get better? We haven't seen him in a major role since "The Best Night Ever", so maybe it could happen? Idk; feel free to give your two cents.

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[[WMG: Prince Blueblood will have a redemption episode.]]
He's a jerk, no doubt about that. But if Trixie, Gilda, Diamond Tiara, and fricken Discord can get character development and become better ponies/griffons/draconequui, I don't see why this guy shouldn't. Unless they give him the Garble treatment and make him the villain of an episode, of course.
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** {{QI}} taught us that statistically speaking most of Europe is descended from Charlemagne, so...

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** {{QI}} Series/{{QI}} taught us that statistically speaking most of Europe is descended from Charlemagne, so...
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** Which leads to the {{Fanon}} theory that she's a ShipperOnDeck for all of Equestria.

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** Which leads to the {{Fanon}} theory that she's a CovertPervert and/or a ShipperOnDeck for all of Equestria.
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** Which leads to the {{Fanon}} theory that she's a ShipperOnDeck for all of Equestria.
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[[WMG: The reason that Celestia and Luna's mane are supernaturally wavy and Cadence and Twilight's aren't is...]]
* Is because Luna and Celestia need to tap into the LeyLines in order to move the sun and moon. Cadence is ruling the Crystal Empire rather than keep the world in balance, and Twilight's title is largely ceremonial. [[FridgeBrilliance It also explains why]] Celestia is so much bigger than everyone else; she's needed to double dip on the world's LifeEnergy to perform both jobs.
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** Jossed, we see the two of them together in "No Second Prances"
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* If the comics are anything to go by, he's a silver-tongued negotiator and ambassador, though one that gets along much better with foreigners than his own people. He'd probably be more instrumental in preventing a war than fighting one.
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* Alternatively, ''they'' were the ones adopted into the families of pre-existing royal houses, possibly to better secure their claims as rulers, similar to how Roman Emperors would adopt their successors.
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[[WMG: Flurry Heart will be the next Princess of Love.]]
Going by the theory that Cadence is not immortal, it would seem likely that she'd eventually have to step down and let her daughter take over.

[[WMG: Flurry Heart will be the main protagonist in a sequel series following the adventures of the Mane Six's children.]]
There's plenty of potential for the future characterization of Flurry Heart, and in such a spin-off, she could take the place of Twilight Sparkle with said pony taking the role of Princess Celestia as a mentor. They, in turn, can learn their own lessons about friendship whle Flurry Heart simultaneously has to deal with the stresses and responsibilities of a ruler.
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[[WMG: In a later episode, when Flurry Heart is older, her parents will tell her why they gave her her name.]]
When the young princess is old enough to understand, she may innocently ask why, and when her mother, father, or both of them explain the reason, she may end up having a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment leading into a HeroicBSOD with her sitting in her room crying, believing that she doesn't deserve to be the heir to Crystal Empire because she almost turned it into a frozen wasteland. Her parents will comfort her, however, explaining that they and all of the Empire's citizens don't think any less of her because she was a baby at the time it happened and therefore didn't know exactly what she was capable of doing.
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[[WMG: Princess Celestia is the Equestrian equivalent of a {{Transhuman}}ist and manipulates the Magic of Friendship to uplift mediocre ponies into Alicorns.]]
Hence why, despite being practically the GodEmperor of Equestria, she still bothers to manipulate the lives of mediocre ponies until, as Cadance and Twilight Sparkle have shown, they become worthy of ascension into a higher existence, namely, Alicornhood. Perhaps this is the entire purpose of the rigorous educational system of "The Magic of Friendship" Celestia runs all throughout Twilight's life, up to and including her "discovery" of the Elements of Harmony. Celestia's actual agenda throughout this series is to create new Alicorns out of lower-base Equines by manipulating their relationship with the Elements of Harmony and therefore the Friendship Force, with Twilight Sparkle as the most successful, and after Twilight's ascension, Celestia imposed the same "friendship lesson" system to Twilight's friends (e.g. friendship journals) under the pretense of life lessons... but what if those life lessons are just the beginning in the repetition of the process that led to Twilight's ascension (e.g. alicorn Fluttershy or Pinkie Pie anyone)?
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On a more comical side, Twilight and her friends will be called over to help babysit Flurry Heart as Cadence and Shining Armor get some much-needed rest after spending a good amount of their days following her birth dealing with her unregulated bursts of magical energy. Each of the Mane Six could take turns watching the baby princess over the course of the episode(s); Pinkie Pie's shift will involve CallBacks to when she first babysat the Cake Twins.

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On a more comical side, Twilight and her friends will be called over to help babysit Flurry Heart as Cadence and Shining Armor get some much-needed rest after spending a good amount of their days following her birth dealing with her unregulated bursts of magical energy. Each of the Mane Six could take turns watching the baby princess over the course of the episode(s); Pinkie Pie's shift will involve CallBacks {{Call Back}}s to when she first babysat the Cake Twins.

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