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Sure Liquid's cause is misguided in various places but it was his. Snake up to this game mainly did things solely on orders, including this, this Snake was naugh more than a pawn of possibly worse people. This stopped being the case with Gray fox's final moments inspiring Snake to find his own cause with the 4th Solid game less on orders and more doing a favor for a friend/doing one last good thing in his life.

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Sure Liquid's cause is misguided in various places but it was his. Snake up to this game mainly did things solely on orders, including this, this Snake was naugh more than a pawn of possibly worse people. This stopped being the case with Gray fox's final moments inspiring Snake to find his own cause with the 4th Solid game less on orders and more doing a favor for a friend/doing one last good thing in his life.life.

[[WMG: Mantis' father was psychic as well.]]

Psycho Mantis claims that his father hated him because of the mother dying in childbirth. Seems a little cliche doesn't it? But, what if Mantis inherited his psychic powers from his father? His father probably looked into his son's future and realized he'd grow up to be a killer. ''That's'' probably why his father tried to kill him, not out of blame for "killing" his mother.



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** Yeah and some materials of this game suggested that he looked younger and the Alaskan air did him quite some good.
* Alos in MGSV reveals that in the end, Miller would go against the real Big Boss, assisting Solid Snake with advice in earlier games. He'd have no reason to try to resume what Big Boss began.



* Similarly, this is the reason for a change in Psycho Mantis' final words. In the original dubbed version of ''MGS'', he said that using his powers to help someone "feels kind of nice", while in the original Japanese version, and in ''TTS'', he remarks on "such a nostalgic feeling". Sure, it could just be a more accurate translation of the original line... but given he's demonstrated that the fourth wall is no more hindering to him than it is to Snake, it could also be him commenting on the entire series of events, being vaguely aware that, yes, everything he just did [[VideoGameRemake has happened before]].

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* Similarly, this is the reason for a change in Psycho Mantis' final words. In the original dubbed version of ''MGS'', he said that using his powers to help someone "feels kind of nice", while in the original Japanese version, and in ''TTS'', he remarks on "such a nostalgic feeling". Sure, it could just be a more accurate translation of the original line... but given he's demonstrated that the fourth wall is no more hindering to him than it is to Snake, it could also be him commenting on the entire series of events, being vaguely aware that, yes, everything he just did [[VideoGameRemake has happened before]].before]].

[[WMG: Mantis called Snake worse than Liquid because (at the time) he did not have a cause of his own]]

Sure Liquid's cause is misguided in various places but it was his. Snake up to this game mainly did things solely on orders, including this, this Snake was naugh more than a pawn of possibly worse people. This stopped being the case with Gray fox's final moments inspiring Snake to find his own cause with the 4th Solid game less on orders and more doing a favor for a friend/doing one last good thing in his life.


** Basically, what happened in ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' with the Captain Spiers German prisoners incident happened here, so that's why Snake in ''The Twin Snakes'' has a 3-on-1 fight with the guards before getting captured while in the "reality" of the original game he just put his hands up.

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** Basically, what happened in ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' with the Captain Spiers Speirs German prisoners incident happened here, so that's why Snake in ''The Twin Snakes'' has does things like have a 3-on-1 fight with the guards before getting captured while in the "reality" of the original game he just put his hands up.


[[WMG:The first ''Metal Gear Solid'' is all VR.]]

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[[WMG:The [[WMG: The first ''Metal Gear Solid'' is all VR.]]




[[WMG:The Twin Snakes is really ''Metal Gear Solid: The Movie'']]

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\n[[WMG:The * '''Yet Another Alternate Theory:''' The original ''Metal Gear Solid'' is what really happened, while ''The Twin Snakes'' is the post-MemeticMutation exaggerated retelling of the Shadow Moses Incident.
**Basically, what happened in ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' with the Captain Spiers German prisoners incident happened here, so that's why Snake in ''The Twin Snakes'' has a 3-on-1 fight with the guards before getting captured while in the "reality" of the original game he just put his hands up.

[[WMG: The
Twin Snakes is really ''Metal Gear Solid: The Movie'']]



[[WMG:The Shadow Moses Incident was set up by the Patriots too.]]

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[[WMG:The [[WMG: The Shadow Moses Incident was set up by the Patriots too.]]



[[WMG:The Twin Snakes was merely a DreamSequence experienced by Snake]]

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[[WMG:The [[WMG: The Twin Snakes was merely a DreamSequence experienced by Snake]]



[[WMG:Liquid's real name is John/Jack.]]

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[[WMG:Liquid's [[WMG: Liquid's real name is John/Jack.]]


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Due to the fact that I haven't played [[VideoGame/MetalGearSoid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!

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Due to the fact that I haven't played [[VideoGame/MetalGearSoid4GunsOfThePatriots [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!


Due to the fact that I haven't played [[MetalGearSoid4 MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!

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Due to the fact that I haven't played [[MetalGearSoid4 [[VideoGame/MetalGearSoid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!



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*** Have you ever actually ''seen'' Obama? Sure, through pictures and stuff, but how do you know they're not of some model in a controlled environment to trick the masses? Did you take the pictures yourself? (Emma, stop haunting my computer.)



Do to the fact that I haven't played [[MetalGearSoid4 MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!

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Do Due to the fact that I haven't played [[MetalGearSoid4 MGS4]], I can honestly say I have seen absolutely nothing that contradicts The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anything that DOES is actually one of Ocelots LIES!



Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' was released.

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Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually must have been Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' was released.




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** Not quite what I meant by this, but still amusing that I could have been technically right.


[[WMG: Psycho Mantis's brain broke when he tried to read {{Deadpool}}'s mind.]]

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[[WMG: Psycho Mantis's brain broke when he tried to read {{Deadpool}}'s SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'s mind.]]



To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.

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To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.him.
* Similarly, this is the reason for a change in Psycho Mantis' final words. In the original dubbed version of ''MGS'', he said that using his powers to help someone "feels kind of nice", while in the original Japanese version, and in ''TTS'', he remarks on "such a nostalgic feeling". Sure, it could just be a more accurate translation of the original line... but given he's demonstrated that the fourth wall is no more hindering to him than it is to Snake, it could also be him commenting on the entire series of events, being vaguely aware that, yes, everything he just did [[VideoGameRemake has happened before]].



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* [[spoiler: Considering Phantom Pain, it could've been Venom Snake that she met.]]



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* Technically, this is accurate.



To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.

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To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.



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* The events of MGSV make this highly unlikely. For a multitude of reasons. Number one being that Miller's age by the time of MGS would be around 60. That doesn't even take into consideration the story elements of PW-V that would make this nearly impossible.



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* Jossed, MGSV reveals his real name to be Eli.

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[[WMG: The Twin Snakes takes place in the Revengeance universe.]]
Twin Snakes and Revengeance take place in a side universe, one in which the broad strokes of the Metal Gear story still happen, but in a more crazy awesome way.


Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''MetalGearSolid3'' was released.

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Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''MetalGearSolid3'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' was released.


Which probably saved her life. She's an attractive, sympathetic single female, the age difference between her and Otacon probably is no greater than that between Snake and Meryl, and [[PairTheSmartOnes they have some things in common]]. Considering how affection-starved [=MGS 1=]-era Otacon is, it's not unlikely that he'd develop some kind of feelings for her, and [[CartwrightCurse we know what that means]]. If Hal had any hope of Mei Ling requiting any affection sent her way, the poor girl'd be hurtling fridgeward.

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Which probably saved her life. She's an attractive, sympathetic single female, the age difference between her and Otacon probably is no greater than that between Snake and Meryl, and [[PairTheSmartOnes they have some things in common]]. Considering how affection-starved [=MGS 1=]-era [=MGS1=]-era Otacon is, it's not unlikely that he'd develop some kind of feelings for her, and [[CartwrightCurse we know what that means]]. If Hal had any hope of Mei Ling requiting any affection sent her way, the poor girl'd be hurtling fridgeward.


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[[WMG: Gray Fox's new actor in ''The Twin Snakes'' was a deliberate artistic decision.]]

To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.

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