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** The different mythological locations are definitely different dimensions, but I think that the Yggdrasil connects them. With how Riordan is writing the Norse series it seems pretty likely. As for the Mist it is more likely a universal mortal repellant as opposed to a wall, interesting idea though.

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** The different mythological locations are definitely different dimensions, but I think that the Yggdrasil connects them. With how Riordan is writing the Norse series it seems pretty likely. As for the Mist it is more likely a universal mortal repellant as opposed to a wall, interesting idea though.though.

[[WMG: The real villain of this series is the giant Ymir

I mean think about it. He most likely alive in some capacity and looking for revenge on Odin for killing him. Also, Loki seems a little too obvious.
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* My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon without an astronaut suit (or a human host). The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but the wall that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!

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* My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon without an astronaut suit (or a human host). The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but the wall that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!statement!
**The different mythological locations are definitely different dimensions, but I think that the Yggdrasil connects them. With how Riordan is writing the Norse series it seems pretty likely. As for the Mist it is more likely a universal mortal repellant as opposed to a wall, interesting idea though.
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For instance perhaps the Sea of Chaos is split into 6 rivers by the Yggdrasil: the rivers of the Underworld and the Duat. And that the Mist isn't just the first layer of the Duat but the result of the Achernon cooling off the Duat.
My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon without an astronaut suit (or a human host). The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but the wall that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!

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For instance perhaps the Sea of Chaos is split into 6 rivers by the Yggdrasil: the rivers of the Underworld and the Duat. And that the Mist isn't just the first layer of the Duat but the result of the Achernon Phlegethon cooling off the Duat.
My *My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon without an astronaut suit (or a human host). The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but the wall that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!
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* My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon. The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but a magic barrier that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!

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* My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon. Moon without an astronaut suit (or a human host). The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but a magic barrier the wall that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!
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** My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon. The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but a magic barrier that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!

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** My *My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon. The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but a magic barrier that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!
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For instance perhaps the Sea of Chaos is split into 6 rivers by the Yggdrasil: the rivers of the Underworld and the Duat. And that the Mist isn't just the first layer of the Duat but the result of the Achernon cooling off the Duat.

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For instance perhaps the Sea of Chaos is split into 6 rivers by the Yggdrasil: the rivers of the Underworld and the Duat. And that the Mist isn't just the first layer of the Duat but the result of the Achernon cooling off the Duat.Duat.
** My personal belief is that the Yggdrasil, Duat and the Greek Pantheon all are different planes of existances. This is why the Eygptian Gods cannot enter the mortal world, since it's the equivalent of trying to go to the Moon. The Greek Gods are more tied to the mortal world, so their plane of existance is super-positioned over the mortal world, with the Mist, not being a form of veil or "magical denial" as Annabeth puts it, but a magic barrier that separates the two worlds. Which explains why most humans can't see monsters or be affected by Celestial Bronze, since they are literally in another dimension. Demigods, exist in both dimensions at once, hence Chiron's saying in Sea of Monsters, about demigods being in both worlds. It was a literal statement!
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For instance perhaps the Sea of Chaos is split into 6 rivers by the Yggdrasil: the rivers of the Underworld and the Duat. And that the Mist isn't just the first layer of the Duat but the result of the Achernon cooling off the Duat.
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WordOfGod calls the upcoming ''Trials of Apollo'' the 'capstone' of the series and says it will bring together all of the elements from the previous books. Of all the characters, Annabeth has the strongest connections to all of the previous series, being a Greek demigod, one of the Seven, and briefly becoming an Egyptian magician in ''The Crown of Ptolemy''. The line about Magnus needing Annabeth's help implies that she'll play a relatively important role in ''Gods of Asgard'' as well.

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WordOfGod calls the upcoming ''Trials of Apollo'' the 'capstone' of the series and says it will bring together all of the elements from the previous books. Of all the characters, Annabeth has the strongest connections to all of the previous series, being a Greek demigod, one of the Seven, and briefly becoming an Egyptian magician in ''The Crown of Ptolemy''. The line about Magnus needing Annabeth's help implies that she'll play a relatively important role in ''Gods of Asgard'' as well.well.

[[WMG: The various magical places, magical powers, and some concepts of the in-book universe are interrelated.]]
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Plus, it wouldn't be unlike Riordan to play with this plot thread in order to give Sam another way to shake off the shadow of Loki.

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Plus, it wouldn't be unlike Riordan to play with this plot thread in order to give Sam another way to shake off the shadow of Loki.Loki.

[[WMG: Annabeth is the real protagonist of the franchise, with Percy, Magnus, et al being the heroes of their specific story arcs.]]
WordOfGod calls the upcoming ''Trials of Apollo'' the 'capstone' of the series and says it will bring together all of the elements from the previous books. Of all the characters, Annabeth has the strongest connections to all of the previous series, being a Greek demigod, one of the Seven, and briefly becoming an Egyptian magician in ''The Crown of Ptolemy''. The line about Magnus needing Annabeth's help implies that she'll play a relatively important role in ''Gods of Asgard'' as well.
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I put this here instead of adding it as a Continuity Nod on the main page, because there\'s still a possibility that it can be refuted by the source material.


Rick's already kind of done this with TheKaneChronicles, so why not again?

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Rick's already kind of done this with TheKaneChronicles, so why not again?again?

[[WMG: Sam's fears regarding her VoluntaryShapeshifting aren't what she thinks it is]]
She distrusts it because it comes from her father, Loki, (on top of shapeshifting being associated with negative forces in Islam, which just adds to the complications her demigod status provides her mortal life) and fears that the more she uses it, the more like her father she will become. However, in ''Literature/TheKaneChronicles'', Sadie once nearly became a bird of prey permanently, as she was unable to change back due to her inexperience. It's then explained that the longer one stays in their shifted form, the more their human mind will slip away. Take too long, and they'll remain in that form forever. Because of how well Riordan has explained the same facets (magic between the Greco-Roman myths and Egyptian mythology, for instance) without them jibing too seriously, there's a possibility that this is actually that feeling Sam gets whenever she shifts.

Plus, it wouldn't be unlike Riordan to play with this plot thread in order to give Sam another way to shake off the shadow of Loki.
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* Discussed. When Magnus and his friends meet Thor, in person, they comment that he looks ''nothing'' like the movie Thor. He's got a giant, bushy red beard, his faded leather clothing is covered in goat grease and dirt-stains, and he's a bit of a CloudCuckoolander (his most recent obsession is with TV dramas like ''Game of Thrones'' and ''Breaking Bad''.) [[spoiler: Frey, on the other hand...]]

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* Discussed. When Magnus and his friends meet Thor, in person, they comment that he looks ''nothing'' like the movie Thor. He's got a giant, bushy red beard, beard (more like his mythological counterpart), his faded leather clothing is covered in goat grease and dirt-stains, and he's a bit of a CloudCuckoolander (his most recent obsession is with TV dramas like ''Game of Thrones'' and ''Breaking Bad''.) [[spoiler: Frey, on the other hand...]]
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Rick's already kind of done this with TheKaneChronicles.

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Rick's already kind of done this with TheKaneChronicles.TheKaneChronicles, so why not again?
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** Actually,the original ''Beowulf'' manuscript was written in Old English (There is a lot of overlap between Germanic and Norse mythology similar to that of the Greeks and Romans) and the characters are from Sweden and Denmark, which were primary Norse settlements.

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** Actually,the original ''Beowulf'' manuscript was written in Old English (There is a lot of overlap between Germanic and Norse mythology similar to that of the Greeks and Romans) and the characters are from Sweden and Denmark, which were primary Norse settlements.settlements.

[[WMG: Magnus will prevent Ragnarok from [[SelfDefeatingProphecy ever happening]]]]
Rick's already kind of done this with TheKaneChronicles.

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* Confirmed. Magnus is killed, for real, and is carried to Valhalla. [[spoiler: He doesn't stay for very long though. He's still technically dead, but he's now an einherji, one of the Honored Dead.]]

[[WMG: The Sword of Summer is actually Freyr's sword.]]
As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happened to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.



[[WMG: The Sword of Summer is actually Freyr's sword.]]
As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happened to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.
* Confirmed.
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* Discussed. When Magnus and his friends meet Thor, in person, they comment that he looks ''nothing'' like the movie Thor. He's got a giant, bushy red beard, his faded leather clothing is covered in goat grease and dirt-stains, and he's a bit of a CloudCuckoolander (his most recent obsession is with TV dramas like ''Game of Thrones'' and ''Breaking Bad''.) [[spoiler: Frey, on the other hand...]]
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* They're more Celtic than Norse.

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* They're more Celtic than Norse.Norse.
** Actually,the original ''Beowulf'' manuscript was written in Old English (There is a lot of overlap between Germanic and Norse mythology similar to that of the Greeks and Romans) and the characters are from Sweden and Denmark, which were primary Norse settlements.

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*[[spoiler:Jossed. He seems to be TheManBehindTheMan for Surt.]]




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*His uncle, a scholar of Norse mythology, had this reaction.



How can they not they are some of the most famous characters found in the NorseMythology?

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How can they not they are some of the most famous characters found in the NorseMythology?NorseMythology?
*They're more Celtic than Norse.
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[[WMG:Magnus is related to [[PercyJacksonandtheOlympians Annabeth]] ]]

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[[WMG:Magnus is related to [[PercyJacksonandtheOlympians [[Literature/PercyJacksonandtheOlympians Annabeth]] ]]
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As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happ Ned to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.

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As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happ Ned happened to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.



[[WMG: Beawulf and Grendal will appear in the story]]

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[[WMG: Beawulf Beowulf and Grendal Grendel will appear in the story]]
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How can they not they are some of the most famous characters found in the NorseMythology.

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How can they not they are some of the most famous characters found in the NorseMythology.NorseMythology?
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* Confirmed. [[spoiler: It's Frey's sword, which is destined to fall into the hands of Surt and be used by him at Ragnarok. For now, it belongs to Magnus.]]

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* Confirmed. [[spoiler: It's Frey's sword, which is destined to fall into the hands of Surt and be used by him at Ragnarok. For now, it belongs to Magnus.]]]]

[[WMG: Beawulf and Grendal will appear in the story]]
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* Confirmed. Annabeth appears in the preview chapter included with ''Crown of Ptolemy.'' They're cousins.

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* Confirmed. Annabeth appears in the preview chapter included with ''Crown of Ptolemy.'' They're cousins.
cousins via his mother and Annabeth's father (who were brother and sister).




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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Frey is Magnus's father. Loki's ''daughter'', on the other hand, is also a major character.]]



The preview states Magnus is attacked by a fire giant. The fire giants were led by Surtr, who raged across the world in an inferno during Ragarnok. As stated above, making Loki the antagonist seems too obvious, and Fenrir and Jormungand are probably instruments of Ragnarok, not the perpetrators. The Sword of Summer could possibly be Surtr's, considering summer is hot. Magnus has the skills of a thief, maybe the gods need him to steal it from Surtr to prevent Ragnarok?

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The preview states Magnus is attacked by a fire giant. The fire giants were led by Surtr, who raged across the world in an inferno during Ragarnok. As stated above, making Loki the antagonist seems too obvious, and Fenrir and Jormungand are probably instruments of Ragnarok, not the perpetrators. The Sword of Summer could possibly be Surtr's, considering summer is hot. Magnus has the skills of a thief, maybe the gods need him to steal it from Surtr to prevent Ragnarok?Ragnarok?
* Confirmed. [[spoiler: It's Frey's sword, which is destined to fall into the hands of Surt and be used by him at Ragnarok. For now, it belongs to Magnus.]]
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As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happ Ned to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.

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As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happ Ned to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.ideas.

[[WMG: Loki is Magnus' father.]]
Magnus has been shown to display both skill in thievery and a tendency to enact his own Robin Hood style of justice. Now my Norse mythology isn't the greatest, but I do believe Loki has displayed similar mannerisms (in the sense of deciding one's guilt and punishment on his own), and as a trickster god it isn't too much of a stretch to add thievery to his domain. In addition, Magnus' mortal parent is his mother (not that that matters much to Loki, but the odds of Rick writing HomosexualReproduction are unlikely), making his Norse parent male. Thor and Odin seem too obvious, and in the preview chapter doesn't Magnus have visions of a wolf? Fenrir is the great wolf of Norse Mythology, and also Loki's son--a brother seeking out a brother, perhaps?.

[[WMG: Surtr will be the main antagonist of the first book, if not the whole series.]]
The preview states Magnus is attacked by a fire giant. The fire giants were led by Surtr, who raged across the world in an inferno during Ragarnok. As stated above, making Loki the antagonist seems too obvious, and Fenrir and Jormungand are probably instruments of Ragnarok, not the perpetrators. The Sword of Summer could possibly be Surtr's, considering summer is hot. Magnus has the skills of a thief, maybe the gods need him to steal it from Surtr to prevent Ragnarok?
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As the summary states, a fire giant attacks leads to Magnus choosing between his life or the lives of innocents. While Magnus does steal, he does seem like he'd choose to save the innocents. So, Uncle Randolph tells him he's a demigod, Magnus doesn't believe it, then a fire giant attacks. Magnus stops the fire giant, at the cost of his own life. As he died in battle, he would go to Valhalla, where he's forced to accept the reality that the Norse myths are true. Then, the Aesir send Magnus as an Einherjar (dead spirit in Valhalla) to find the Sword of Summer and prevent Ragnarok.

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As the summary states, a fire giant attacks leads to Magnus choosing between his life or the lives of innocents. While Magnus does steal, he does seem like he'd choose to save the innocents. So, Uncle Randolph tells him he's a demigod, Magnus doesn't believe it, then a fire giant attacks. Magnus stops the fire giant, at the cost of his own life. As he died in battle, he would go to Valhalla, where he's forced to accept the reality that the Norse myths are true. Then, the Aesir send Magnus as an Einherjar (dead spirit in Valhalla) to find the Sword of Summer and prevent Ragnarok.Ragnarok.

[[WMG: The Sword of Summer is actually Freyr's sword.]]
As far as I know, there is no sword in Norse mythology called that. Freyr's sword was one of the only weapons without a name given to it. Freyr gave it up to win his wife, and there are conflicting stories about what happ Ned to it. Freyr is also a god of fertility, something that can be associated with summer, especially in a climate like Norway's. Please correct me if you know of any weapons called the sword of summer, or if you have any other ideas.
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Magnus will bring the movies (or possibly comics) up once, Thor will give him a DeathGlare, and that will be the end of that.

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Magnus will bring the movies (or possibly comics) up once, Thor will give him a DeathGlare, and that will be the end of that.that.

[[WMG:Magnus will die for real in the first few chapters]]
As the summary states, a fire giant attacks leads to Magnus choosing between his life or the lives of innocents. While Magnus does steal, he does seem like he'd choose to save the innocents. So, Uncle Randolph tells him he's a demigod, Magnus doesn't believe it, then a fire giant attacks. Magnus stops the fire giant, at the cost of his own life. As he died in battle, he would go to Valhalla, where he's forced to accept the reality that the Norse myths are true. Then, the Aesir send Magnus as an Einherjar (dead spirit in Valhalla) to find the Sword of Summer and prevent Ragnarok.
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* It's important to remember that Loki was a protagonist as much as he was an antagonist in Norse mythology, and most of the time his turns as an antagonist was due to his fate rather then what he actually wanted.
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* Confirmed. Annabeth appears in the preview chapter included with ''Crown of Ptolemy.'' They're cousins.
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* There's some support for this. In ''The Blood of Olympus'', Annabeth mentions that she has an uncle and a cousin living in Boston, where ''Gods of Asgard'' takes place, and that she's never met them because of some old rivalry between her father and her uncle.

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* There's some support for this. In ''The Blood of Olympus'', Annabeth mentions that she has an uncle and a cousin living in Boston, where ''Gods of Asgard'' takes place, and that she's never met them because of some old rivalry between her father and her uncle.uncle.

[[WMG:Loki will not be a true antagonist, but will be running his own agenda]]
Loki is way too obvious to be the BigBad. Instead, he'll be similar to Set in the later books of ''Literature/TheKaneChronicles''. He'll probably help the heroes more than he hinders them, aside from inevitably throwing monsters and tricks at them for shits and giggles.

[[WMG:Marvel will be a giant berserk button for all the Aesir.]]
Magnus will bring the movies (or possibly comics) up once, Thor will give him a DeathGlare, and that will be the end of that.
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Magnus's last name is Chase. That's also Annabeth's last name. Riordan probably did that for a reason.

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Magnus's last name is Chase. That's also Annabeth's last name. Riordan probably did that for a reason.reason.
*There's some support for this. In ''The Blood of Olympus'', Annabeth mentions that she has an uncle and a cousin living in Boston, where ''Gods of Asgard'' takes place, and that she's never met them because of some old rivalry between her father and her uncle.
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[[WMG:Magnus is related to [[PercyJacksonandtheOlympians Annabeth]] ]]
Magnus's last name is Chase. That's also Annabeth's last name. Riordan probably did that for a reason.

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