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[[WMG: Outfits for Lightning...]]
A spot to speculate potential outfit choices for Lightning, because some of us actually think about these things.

* Outfits from every Final Fantasy character in existence, including Noctis (as a means to promote [[FinalFantasyXV XV]]), which doesn't seem too far off from being possible (outside of time constraints/budget) considering Lightning gets Cloud's iconic SOLDIER 1st Class uniform and Buster Sword, and Yuna's robes.
* Liara's armour from MassEffect3. Noel and Serah got the N7 armour, so why not give a character voiced by Ali Hillis the outfit of another character voiced by Ali Hillis from the same game.
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[[WMG: Hope was deaged as a side effect of giving the Tree of Life fuel.]]
Taken from a post of Tumblr. Hope lost 13 physical years of his life, one year for each day the world has left? Perhaps Hope gave the tree his life energy to sustain it and buy Lightning time to fulfill her quest.
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[[WMG: Hope is dead. The "Hope" we see is a fake.]]
The new "Hope" that is guiding Lightning on her quest to "liberate souls" is not Hope at all, because he died when Chaos fell. This "Hope" is actually Bhunivelze or a puppet of his and is the real reference to the prophecy Noel and Lightning talk about in one of the recent trailers. The "savior" in this scenario being "Hope" while the "hero" is Lightning. Also makes sense considering the mystery behind "Hope" deaging back to 14 is apparently important in the plot
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* And Serah did have Seer powers, like Yeul. New incarnations of Yeul is born whenever one dies, so this probably applies with Serah as well.
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* Pretty unlikely now that Versus XIII has been retooled into Final Fantasy XV. Not altogether impossible, mind you, but unlikely.
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[[Spoiler: Confirmed in the latest trailer. so far only for Snow though.]]

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[[Spoiler: *[[spoiler: Confirmed in the latest trailer. so far only for Snow though.]]
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[[Spoiler: Confirmed in the latest trailer. so far only for Snow though.]]
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[[WMG: Lightning is not the savior in the prophecy.]]
In the trailers, Noel and Lightning reference a prophecy regarding a savior that tries to destroy the world, but who is stopped at the last moment by a "hero." Obviously Lightning's not quite devious, so it's probably Serah or someone else instead. That or the prophecy is just outright twisted to begin with, whatever.

[[WMG: Snow (...and probably everyone else) wants to die.]]
It's been five hundred years without Serah, without getting any older. He asks Lightning if she's going to kill him. Truth is, he's had more than enough of this stuff already.

[[WMG: Caius regrets what he's done- because Yeul is now all kinds of horribly evil.]]
The shadowy Yeul trapping Snow in the Coliseum, taunting Lightning about Serah in Valhalla, and various other unsavory things in XIII-2 is one of or even ''the'' antagonist in this game. As such, her former guardian has finally realized he did the wrong thing-- or is at least pretty pissed that time still exists enough for five hundred years to pass on top of however millenia old he already was at the end of XIII-2.
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* He's no longer a kid, she was there for him when he needed someone for support, and GODDAMNIT I want some form of a definitively happy ending. Preferably with shipping. And [[NobodyDies BABIES]].

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* He's no longer a kid, she was there for him when he needed someone for support, and GODDAMNIT I want some form of a definitively happy ending. Preferably with shipping. And [[NobodyDies [[BabiesEverAfter BABIES]].
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* Yeul does say that Serah is the same. Maybe that extends to more than just the visions.
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And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[VideoGame/Charactersnear a dying knight named Garland]].\\

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And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[VideoGame/Charactersnear [[Characters/FinalFantasyI near a dying knight named Garland]].\\
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** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI a world where mankind's hunger for power makes people hunt magical beings]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI while the forbidden child of the two worlds gives her all to save both]].
** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII a world slowly sucked dry by a greedy corporation]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII with only an improbable crew of heroes trying to save it]].
** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX a world threatened by a giant violent abomination]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX while a priestess ventures in a holy pilgrimage to defeat it]].

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** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI a world where mankind's hunger for power makes people hunt magical beings]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI [[Characters/FinalFantasyVI while the forbidden child of the two worlds gives her all to save both]].
** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII a world slowly sucked dry by a greedy corporation]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII [[Characters/FinalFantasyVII with only an improbable crew of heroes trying to save it]].
** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX a world threatened by a giant violent abomination]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX [[Characters/FinalFantasyX while a priestess ventures in a holy pilgrimage to defeat it]].



And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI near a dying knight named Garland]].\\

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And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI near [[VideoGame/Charactersnear a dying knight named Garland]].\\
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[[WMG:Lightning Returns will provide not only a GrandFinale to her own saga, but also to the entire FinalFantasy series]]

* During the game, Lightning and the player will see flashes from the many possibile futures the world is going towards:

** [[FinalFantasyII a world where an evil emperor rules over all and only a few brave rebels oppose him]].
** [[FinalFantasyIV a world where war is waged for shining crystals and a dark knight seeks redemption]].
** [[FinalFantasyVI a world where mankind's hunger for power makes people hunt magical beings]], [[FinalFantasyVI while the forbidden child of the two worlds gives her all to save both]].
** [[FinalFantasyVII a world slowly sucked dry by a greedy corporation]], [[FinalFantasyVII with only an improbable crew of heroes trying to save it]].
** [[FinalFantasyX a world threatened by a giant violent abomination]], [[FinalFantasyX while a priestess ventures in a holy pilgrimage to defeat it]].

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[[WMG:Lightning Returns will provide not only a GrandFinale to her own saga, but also to the entire FinalFantasy ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series]]

* During the game, Lightning and the player will see flashes from the many possibile possible futures the world is going towards:

** [[FinalFantasyII [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII a world where an evil emperor rules over all and only a few brave rebels oppose him]].
** [[FinalFantasyIV [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV a world where war is waged for shining crystals and a dark knight seeks redemption]].
** [[FinalFantasyVI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI a world where mankind's hunger for power makes people hunt magical beings]], [[FinalFantasyVI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI while the forbidden child of the two worlds gives her all to save both]].
** [[FinalFantasyVII [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII a world slowly sucked dry by a greedy corporation]], [[FinalFantasyVII [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII with only an improbable crew of heroes trying to save it]].
** [[FinalFantasyX [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX a world threatened by a giant violent abomination]], [[FinalFantasyX [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX while a priestess ventures in a holy pilgrimage to defeat it]].



And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[FinalFantasyI near a dying knight named Garland]].\\

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And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[FinalFantasyI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[FinalFantasyI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI near a dying knight named Garland]].\\



** Except that FinalFantasyXV is already in the works. So obviously this isn't true.
*** Doesn't mean that this theory also can't be true, though DissidiaFinalFantasy already laid the origins of Chaos to rest.

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** Except that FinalFantasyXV ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' is already in the works. So obviously this isn't true.
*** Doesn't mean that this theory also can't be true, though DissidiaFinalFantasy ''DissidiaFinalFantasy'' already laid the origins of Chaos to rest.



[[WMG: The game will utilize the gameplay mechanics FinalFantasyXIII wasn't able to use]]

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[[WMG: The game will utilize the gameplay mechanics FinalFantasyXIII ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' wasn't able to use]]
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There has to be a reason why someone resembeling her would show up in a game centered on her sister.

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There has to be a reason why someone resembeling resembling her would show up in a game centered on her sister.
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[[WMG: Lumina is Serah, or an reincarnation thereof]]
There has to be a reason why someone resembeling her would show up in a game centered on her sister.
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[[WMG: The story ends with a ResetButton back to XIII]]
At the end of the story Lightning manages to pull off something that effectively erases everything that happened after one of two points related to the first game in the 'Lightning Saga':

*Just after the end of XIII, everyone (including Fang and Vanille) is thawed out of crystal stasis, reunited with loved ones, and lives happily ever after. Lightning (and maybe Serah) are the only ones who remember the events of XIII-2 and Lightning Returns.
*Just before the events of XIII (say, a month or so). Lightning can remember the events of all three games and learns from her mistakes by approving of Serah and Snow's marriage, thus keeping the former from becoming a l'Cie and setting the plot of the trilogy in motion. For bonus happy ending points, Fang and Vanille are revived from stasis as normal but neither retain their l'Cie brands. They integrate into Cocoon society and by sheer happenstance become friends with the other protagonists.

In either case, an after-credits scene shows Noel, Caius, and Yuel living peacefully with the rest of human civilization 700 years in the future.
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* [[spoiler: CONFIRMED — Noel's arm can be seen in the leaked first trailer, and WordOfGod days that past characters will return.]]
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** It is possible, IF [[BioWare a certain other game company]] [[spoiler: [[MemeticMutation ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL]] of LR's dev team.]]
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[[WMG: Caius, Noel, and Yuel will return.]]
Their stories have ended rather abruptly, considering that [[spoiler: Noel failed to save Serah from her fate and failed to stop Caius from successfully stopping time for the sake of keeping Yuel alive, but due to the new danger of time stopping as of FFXIII: Lightning Returns, it would not make sense for Caius, Noel, and Yuel to be completely forgotten.]]
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* Refusing to choose and being destroyed along with the universe when time runs out. However, thanks to Hope scattering time capsules that survive the cataclysm earlier in the game, the humans of the next cycle of Creation can prepare and destroy fal'Cie without the whole Cocoon business ever taking place.

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* Refusing to choose and being destroyed along with the universe when time runs out. However, thanks to Hope scattering time capsules that would survive the cataclysm earlier in the game, the humans of the next cycle of Creation can prepare and destroy fal'Cie without the whole Cocoon business ever taking place.
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* It will NOT be the end of the L'Cie's stories, rather, based on the theme of XIII in this game, it will lead-in to certain portions of [[KingdomHearts another long-anticipated sequel to one of Square's series.]]

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* It will NOT be the end of the L'Cie's stories, rather, based on the theme of XIII in this game, it will lead-in to certain portions of [[KingdomHearts another long-anticipated sequel to one of Square's series.]]]]

[[WMG: There will be MultipleEndings]]
The fal'Cie will be revealed to have been behind the whole Chaos thing all along and depending on how much time Lightning still has after the FinalBoss, she will [[LastSecondEndingChoice have to choose between two or more of the following endings]]:

* Destroying all fal'Cie and restoring the timeline at the cost of her life (though, with enough time remaining, a secret ending will show Hope discovering that she is still alive and embarking on a quest to find her).
* Merging with the remains of Etro and becoming the new fal'Cie Overmind to restore the timeline.
* Transforming all of both humans and fal'Cie into a new form of l'Cie unburdened by a focus and immune to becoming Ci'eth, who will then save the timeline.
* Refusing to choose and being destroyed along with the universe when time runs out. However, thanks to Hope scattering time capsules that survive the cataclysm earlier in the game, the humans of the next cycle of Creation can prepare and destroy fal'Cie without the whole Cocoon business ever taking place.

In all endings, however, Lighting will technically die and be TogetherInDeath with Serah, so the devs can [[EsotericHappyEnding continue to claim that their games have happy endings]].
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[[WMG: Lighting Returns will somehow connect the series to Versus XIII]]

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[[WMG: Lighting Returns will somehow connect the series to Versus XIII]]XIII]]
[[WMG: This game will only end the Final Fantasy XIII series to a certain degree.]]
* It will NOT be the end of the L'Cie's stories, rather, based on the theme of XIII in this game, it will lead-in to certain portions of [[KingdomHearts another long-anticipated sequel to one of Square's series.]]
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Such as the hack-and-slash gameplay and the gravity-based moves.

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Such as the hack-and-slash gameplay and the gravity-based moves.moves.

[[WMG: Lighting Returns will somehow connect the series to Versus XIII]]
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*** Doesn't mean that this theory also can't be true, though DissidiaFinalFantasy already laid the origins of Chaos to rest.
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* Just think about it, the developers have stated that this isn't really part of the main series like XIII-2 was, which is also why Lightning is the only playable character and the introduction of a different battle system, as well as other massive changes in the game. Plus, given that Final Fantasy XIII is the flagship game of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, wouldn't it make sense that they continue making sequels for it while waiting for the Type-0 sequel and Versus XIII?

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* Just think about it, the developers have stated that this isn't really part of the main series like XIII-2 was, which is also why Lightning is the only playable character and the introduction of a different battle system, as well as other massive changes in the game. Plus, given that Final Fantasy XIII is the flagship game of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, wouldn't it make sense that they continue making sequels for it while waiting for the Type-0 sequel and Versus XIII?XIII?

[[WMG: The game will utilize the gameplay mechanics FinalFantasyXIII wasn't able to use]]
Such as the hack-and-slash gameplay and the gravity-based moves.
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* He's no longer a kid, she was there for him when he needed someone for support, and GODDAMNIT I want some form of a definitively happy ending. Preferably with shipping. And [[NobodyDies BABIES]].

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* He's no longer a kid, she was there for him when he needed someone for support, and GODDAMNIT I want some form of a definitively happy ending. Preferably with shipping. And [[NobodyDies BABIES]].BABIES]].

[[WMG: This will set up the real Final Fantasy XIII-3, but without Lightning as the main character.]]
* Just think about it, the developers have stated that this isn't really part of the main series like XIII-2 was, which is also why Lightning is the only playable character and the introduction of a different battle system, as well as other massive changes in the game. Plus, given that Final Fantasy XIII is the flagship game of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series, wouldn't it make sense that they continue making sequels for it while waiting for the Type-0 sequel and Versus XIII?
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** Except that FinalFantasyXV is already in the works. So obviously this isn't true.
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[[WMG: Hope/Lightning will finally happen.]]
*He's no longer a kid, she was there for him when he needed someone for support, and GODDAMNIT I want some form of a definitively happy ending. Preferably with shipping. And [[NobodyDies BABIES]].
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[[WMG: Lightning will become the reincarnation of Etro.]]
Lightning, in order to restore time, will give her body and soul, becoming the new vessel of the Goddess of Death. She will still exist, in a sense, but she will have to share her body and AscendtoaHigherPlaneofExistence.
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[[WMG:Lightning Returns will provide not only a GrandFinale to her own saga, but also to the entire FinalFantasy series]]

*During the game, Lightning and the player will see flashes from the many possibile futures the world is going towards:

**[[FinalFantasyII a world where an evil emperor rules over all and only a few brave rebels oppose him]].
**[[FinalFantasyIV a world where war is waged for shining crystals and a dark knight seeks redemption]].
**[[FinalFantasyVI a world where mankind's hunger for power makes people hunt magical beings]], [[FinalFantasyVI while the forbidden child of the two worlds gives her all to save both]].
**[[FinalFantasyVII a world slowly sucked dry by a greedy corporation]], [[FinalFantasyVII with only an improbable crew of heroes trying to save it]].
**[[FinalFantasyX a world threatened by a giant violent abomination]], [[FinalFantasyX while a priestess ventures in a holy pilgrimage to defeat it]].

*In the end, Chaos, which is a sentient entity, will incarnate in a physical form, for Lightning to defeat. Her world and time itself saved, she will be about to deliver the final blow, but the creature will escape. Dying and scared, Chaos will try to run as far as it can from Lightning...traveling millennia in the future.\\
And, by pure chance, it will stumble [[FinalFantasyI on the outskirts of a kingdom named Cornelia]], [[FinalFantasyI near a dying knight named Garland]].\\
[[WhereItAllBegan And the story will come full circle]].

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