History WMG / KingsmanTheGoldenCircle

* Salarymen in Japan, in their crisp white company-man button-downs-and-ties

** Personally, I'd go with "Scotsman" in Scotland (just to avoid any potential confusion with the "clansman with a K" types), with the HQ deep under Edinburgh Castle
* Wiseman in Israel, dressing as synagogue workers
* Workmen in Russia. After all, no kings, no church, no decadent aristocracy... only workers in a worker state.

In the third movie, a third IIA will be revealed; the source of the AugmentedReality technology both agencies use. They support their efforts through... IT consulting. And given how they provide a couple dozen bucks of service '''hundreds of thousands of times ''daily'' ''', they're '''global''', with '''one thousand agents.''' Say hello to [[ComicBook/GlobalFrequency Aleph and Miranda Zero]] for us, Eggsy.

In the third movie, a third IIA will be revealed; the source of the AugmentedReality technology both agencies use. They support their efforts through... IT consulting. And given how they provide a couple dozen bucks of service '''hundreds of thousands of times ''daily'' ''', they're '''global''', with '''one thousand agents.''' Say hello to [[ComicBook/GlobalFrequency Aleph and Miranda Zero]] for us, Eggsy.

[[WMG: The Statesman have been a spy organisation longer then the Kingsman having been established during the american civil war rather then world war one.]]
My idea for this comes mostly from the constant references to unions that the Statesman have with their motto, "United we stand" and they're toast to the union. It would also make thematic sense as well, the USA didn't suffer nearly the number of casualties as Britain in the First World War but a bunch of Southern business men could have defiantly lost sons to the civil war. It would also work with the old west motif with the Civil War being firmly in that period.

The only problem I can think of is the fact that Statesman's founders did have kingsman tailors but I have always assumed Kingsman existed as a tailors before a spy organisation and if the founders were relatively young when they started Statesman, say in their forties, then they could have still been alive when Kingsman was founded.

As a brit it does break my heart slightly to think of Kingsmen not being first but I do feel this makes the most sense.

In the third movie, a third IIA will be revealed; the source of the AugmentedReality technology both agencies use. They support their efforts through... IT work. And given how they provide a couple dozen bucks of service '''daily''', they're '''global''', with '''one thousand agents.''' Say hello to [[ComicBook/GlobalFrequency Aleph and Miranda Zero]] for us, Eggsy.

The Kingsmen supports their "independent intelligence agency" by selling $5000 Saville Row suits. That's damn fine money, and combined with their nest egg from UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne and some good investments, that's more than enough to maintain their chain of tailor shops and one big headquarters.

Their US counterpart, the Statesmen, support themselves by selling whiskey. It's apparently ''really good'' whiskey, but the most expensive whiskey bottled in the US costs about $80 -- and the economics of selling ''hundreds of thousands of bottles every year'' mean they're a ''nationwide'' label, with a ''skyscraper office building in New York'' as well as their headquarters under their Kentucky distillery.

The Kingsmen supports their "independent intelligence agency" by selling $5000 Saville Row suits. They have their tailor shops and one big headquarters.

Their US counterpart, the Statesmen, support themselves by selling whiskey. It's apparently ''really good'' whiskey, but the most expensive whiskey bottled in the US costs about $80 -- but the economics of it mean they're a ''nationwide'' label, with a ''skyscraper office building in New York'' as well as their headquarters under their Kentucky distillery.

In the third movie, a third IIA will be revealed; the source of the AugmentedReality technology both agencies use. They support their efforts through... IT work. And they're '''global''', with '''one thousand agents.''' Say hello to [[ComicBook/GlobalFrequency Aleph and Miranda Zero]] for us, Eggsy.

No one would ever guess! Plus... all of those action scenes? It totally makes sense!!

[[WMG: A Stinger scene will feature the new Arthur enjoying a drink with characters played by Creator/RalphFiennes and Creator/HughGrant.]]

* If that's the case, Statesman was probably the reason the Confederacy never succeeded in annexing Kentucky.

** [[spoiler:Jossed by DVD/Blu-Ray release.]]

As a brit it does break my heart slightly to think of Kingsmen not being first but I do feel this makes the most sense.

[[spoiler:He'll be partially motivated by the fact his stepson became a Prince.]]

* Captain Morgan: A male agent, well versed with bladed weapons.

BruceGreenwood played unnamed presidents in both films. While the president in ''NationalTreasure'' was shown to be a decent man, the president in Golden Circle is shown to be able to play the part of a decent man well enough in public when he thinks it works to his advantage. The timeline between films would make this unlikely but it's possible he was serving his first term in Book of Secrets, lost his reelection campaign, and later won the special election that was presumably held after Valentine killed all of Not-Obama's cabinet in Kingsman: The Secret Service, and that unspecified events in the interim are part of why he became far more extreme in his political views.

** Maybe Chinaman (or is that an even worse name choice)? They would have Chinese paper fans, with a [[EverybodyWasKungFuFighting funky HQ located in Chinatown]], er... China.

** Maybe Chinamen (or is that an even worse name choice)? They would have Chinese paper fans, with a [[EverybodyWasKungFuFighting funky HQ located in Chinatown]], er... China.

* Personally, I'd go with "Scotsman" in Scotland (just to avoid any potential confusion with the "clansman with a K" types), with the HQ deep under Edinburgh Castle

** Maybe Chinamen (or is that an even worse name choice)? They would have Chinese paper fans, with a funky HQ located in Chinatown, er... China.

** Maybe Chinamen? They would have Chinese paper fans. HQ located in Chinatown, er... China.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Harry was [[WeCanRebuildHim rebuilt]] by Poppy.]]]]

[[WMG: Kingsman has still other branches in other countries]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Harry is going to be the next Arthur.]]]]

* Woodsmen in Canada. They wield explosive maple syrup, laser bladed skiing equipment, titanium hockey sticks, "smoke bombs" that explode into red maple leaves, and robotic lumberjack axes that safely return to them after they throw them (like Captain America's shield). They dress in outfits that vary wildly in design (referencing Canada's diversity) but always include a bit of flannel as a reference to their founder, a bearded lumberjack named [[PunnyName Paul Boyle.]]

* I'm just gonna point out that Kingsman is ''exposed''. Ain't no way authorities didn't go through the wreckage and find the secret passageway, or sifted through HQ wreckage and not find the spy equipment.

Someone launched a cruise missile to destroy a Saville Row tailor's shop, with such pinpoint precision that the liquor store next door wasn't damaged. People are going to wonder why.

* [[spoiler:Alternatively, it may have the original scenes of the President pre-reshoots.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed. Harry was treated at the scene of his death by Ginger and Jack Daniels. Ginger's nanite technology repair his brain, but he was left with partial amnesia and his mind is back to an occupation he had as a butterfly researcher prior to joining the army]]

[[spoiler: Confirmed. Roxy is killed in the missile strike on Kingsman HQ]]

Bruce Greenwood played unnamed presidents in both films. While the president in National Treasure was shown to be a decent man, the president in Golden Circle is shown to be able to play the part of a decent man well enough in public when he thinks it works to his advantage. The timeline between films would make this unlikely but it's possible he was serving his first term in Book of Secrets, lost his reelection campaign, and later won the special election that was presumably held after Valentine killed all of Not-Obama's cabinet in Kingsman: The Secret Service, and that unspecified events in the interim are part of why he became far more extreme in his political views.

[[spoiler:Specifically the one where Merlin lives.]]