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* Jack-Jack is spinning through the SuperpowerLottery, and will eventually land on one or multiple powers.
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[[WMG: Jack-Jack is spinning through the SuperpowerLottery, and will eventually land on one or multiple powers.]]
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[[WMG: The "in-universe" reason for Jack-Jack's for Jack-Jack's constant power-shifting is...]]
To get his body used to all the powers that he might need/use in the future, as babies are full of potential. Or alternatively...
*Jack-Jack is spinning through the SuperpowerLottery, and will eventually land on one or multiple powers.
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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Voyd isn't actually ''hired,'' but she does appear at a superhero meet-and-greet for Elastigirl, with various other superheroes of different nationalities. They are then mind-controlled to disrupt the signing of a treaty to re-legalize superheroes.]]
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* Jossed.Confirmed. [[spoiler:Voyd isn't actually ''hired,'' but she does appear at a superhero meet-and-greet for Elastigirl, with various other superheroes of different nationalities. They are then mind-controlled to disrupt the signing of a treaty to re-legalize superheroes.]]
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** Her specific plan involves mind control which was used on Frozone to get him to reach out to Helen so she could be controlled herself. This control will be broken somehow by Jack-Jack during the [[CrowningMomentOfFunny scene where Frozone is freaking out over Jack-Jack's wild powers]] and after Bob's attempts to warn Helen get brushed off as [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], Bob, Frozone and the kids go to save her and the other heroes under Evelyn's control.
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** Her specific plan involves mind control which was used on Frozone to get him to reach out to Helen so she could be controlled herself. This control will be broken somehow by Jack-Jack during the [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments scene where Frozone is freaking out over Jack-Jack's wild powers]] and after Bob's attempts to warn Helen get brushed off as [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], Bob, Frozone and the kids go to save her and the other heroes under Evelyn's control.
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* The raccoon has already come back, and not just [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy once]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 twice,]] but [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar three times]]... ''so far,'' [[Film/Avengers4 that is]].
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* The raccoon has already come back, and not just [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy once]] or [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2 twice,]] but [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar three times]]... ''so far,'' [[Film/Avengers4 [[Film/AvengersEndgame that is]].
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*Confirmed. Auntie Edna is on the Blu-Ray/DVD, along with that short about the Asian lady and the sentient dumpling.
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[[WMG: The entire [[Film/TheIncredibles first movie]] was actually an InUniverse [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis re-enactment]]]]
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[[WMG: The entire [[Film/TheIncredibles [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles first movie]] was actually an InUniverse [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis re-enactment]]]]
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[[WMG: The entire [[Film/TheIncredibles first movie]] was actually an InUniverse [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis re-enactment]]]]
I base this theory on a couple of factors:
* Some minor discrepancies between the end of the first movie and the start of this one: specifically, Mrs. Incredible had Jack-Jack in a carrier on her back at the end of that movie, but in this one Violet was pushing a stroller. Also, the Underminer had just finished his speech when the Incredibles were changing into their tights there, but here he was still giving his speech when Tony Rydinger saw them already in full costume and heard them plotting their next course of action.
* If you [[FreezeFrameBonus look closely]] at some of the documents in Bob Parr's office and his newspaper when he's reading about Gazerbeam having gone missing, not all of the phrases on them are legitimate; other than the first and last few paragraphs in that newspaper article, for instance, most of the rest is "peas and carrots" filler taken from some kind of parody document supposedly describing Insuricare's company policies. In other words these documents are, on closer examination, mere props.
* Mr. and Mrs. Incredible and their family friends [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZjlYKTWow stated as much in promotional interviews]].
In short, that whole first movie was actually a ShowWithinAShow, and this second movie is the show within which that show was made.
I base this theory on a couple of factors:
* Some minor discrepancies between the end of the first movie and the start of this one: specifically, Mrs. Incredible had Jack-Jack in a carrier on her back at the end of that movie, but in this one Violet was pushing a stroller. Also, the Underminer had just finished his speech when the Incredibles were changing into their tights there, but here he was still giving his speech when Tony Rydinger saw them already in full costume and heard them plotting their next course of action.
* If you [[FreezeFrameBonus look closely]] at some of the documents in Bob Parr's office and his newspaper when he's reading about Gazerbeam having gone missing, not all of the phrases on them are legitimate; other than the first and last few paragraphs in that newspaper article, for instance, most of the rest is "peas and carrots" filler taken from some kind of parody document supposedly describing Insuricare's company policies. In other words these documents are, on closer examination, mere props.
* Mr. and Mrs. Incredible and their family friends [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZjlYKTWow stated as much in promotional interviews]].
In short, that whole first movie was actually a ShowWithinAShow, and this second movie is the show within which that show was made.
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[[WMG: Mr. Deavor's killers were hired by a business rival.]]
With the supers out of the way, some CorruptCorporateExecutive figured out it'd be the best opportunity. Like most people back then, he thought Winston and Evelyn wouldn't be able to run Devtech and would instead sell it.
[[WMG: Evelyn and Syndrome had a history together.]]
[[spoiler:Her talk about not wanting people to rely on supers matches Syndrome's final goal. Had he sold his tech to make everyone a super, everyone would try to defend themselves instead of relying on others.]]
With the supers out of the way, some CorruptCorporateExecutive figured out it'd be the best opportunity. Like most people back then, he thought Winston and Evelyn wouldn't be able to run Devtech and would instead sell it.
[[WMG: Evelyn and Syndrome had a history together.]]
[[spoiler:Her talk about not wanting people to rely on supers matches Syndrome's final goal. Had he sold his tech to make everyone a super, everyone would try to defend themselves instead of relying on others.]]
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[[WMG: They will be 6 more Incredible movies]]
Our heroes will get to be the main lead in each sequel.(Fill three to add your own ideas.)
Incredibles3:Frozone
Incredibles4:Honey
Incredibles5:Edna
Incredibles6:Violet
Incredibles7:Dash
Incredibles8:Jack-Jack
Our heroes will get to be the main lead in each sequel.(Fill three to add your own ideas.)
Incredibles3:Frozone
Incredibles4:Honey
Incredibles5:Edna
Incredibles6:Violet
Incredibles7:Dash
Incredibles8:Jack-Jack
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In an interview with CinemaBlend, Brad Bird was asked how the family acquired superpowers, to which he replied:"I don't know. You may have just created Incredibles 3. I mean, it doesn't really matter to me, you know. The sort of 'classic Marvel thing,' somebody spills a test tube or something and then somebody's got a superpower. I don't know. I think that in my mind, it's a little more natural than that. If we have a baby with superpowers, that means they can be born, I guess. So, it's probably not the toxic spill thing. Although, I wouldn't say that every superhero in this universe is naturally created. Maybe there are some toxic spills in there. I don't know. Hopefully I won't ever have to explain it." However, Incredibles 3 will still for the most part focus on the family.
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In an interview with CinemaBlend, Brad Bird was asked how the family acquired superpowers, to which he replied:"I replied: "I don't know. You may have just created Incredibles 3. I mean, it doesn't really matter to me, you know. The sort of 'classic Marvel thing,' somebody spills a test tube or something and then somebody's got a superpower. I don't know. I think that in my mind, it's a little more natural than that. If we have a baby with superpowers, that means they can be born, I guess. So, it's probably not the toxic spill thing. Although, I wouldn't say that every superhero in this universe is naturally created. Maybe there are some toxic spills in there. I don't know. Hopefully I won't ever have to explain it." " However, Incredibles 3 will still for the most part focus on the family.
family so this may not even be completely addressed.
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She does seem to be very flattered to the point of stammering around Helen.
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[[WMG: Incredibles 3 may address the origin of superpowers in the world]]
In an interview with CinemaBlend, Brad Bird was asked how the family acquired superpowers, to which he replied:"I don't know. You may have just created Incredibles 3. I mean, it doesn't really matter to me, you know. The sort of 'classic Marvel thing,' somebody spills a test tube or something and then somebody's got a superpower. I don't know. I think that in my mind, it's a little more natural than that. If we have a baby with superpowers, that means they can be born, I guess. So, it's probably not the toxic spill thing. Although, I wouldn't say that every superhero in this universe is naturally created. Maybe there are some toxic spills in there. I don't know. Hopefully I won't ever have to explain it." However, Incredibles 3 will still for the most part focus on the family.
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[[WMG: Reflux was bitten by a radioactive frog.]]
It would explain his frog-like papearance.
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[[WMG: Reflux was bitten by a radioactive frog.]]
It would explain his frog-like papearance.
It would explain his frog-like papearance.
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[[WMG: Voyd is attracted to other women]]
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[[WMG: The raccoon is a super animal with enhanced physical capabilities and intelligence]]
How else was it able to fight on par with Jack-Jack, and be clever/resourceful enough to use the ashes from the barbecue to put out the fire on Jack-Jack?
How else was it able to fight on par with Jack-Jack, and be clever/resourceful enough to use the ashes from the barbecue to put out the fire on Jack-Jack?
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Now that the supers are no longer in hiding and are welcomed by the public, supervillains are going to have a tough time doing their crimes due to heroes foiling their plans and sending them to jail. Thus, a huge villain team would be needed if they wanted to survive.
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Now that the supers are no longer in hiding and are welcomed by the public, supervillains are going to have a tough time doing their crimes due to heroes foiling their plans and sending them to jail. Thus, a huge villain team would be needed if they wanted to survive.
survive, and/or also pose a challenge to the supers who are out of hiding.
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[[WMG: If there is an Incredibles 3, the villains would be a LegionOfDoom]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Semi-jossed. While the patsy Helen captures is indeed a StrangerBehindTheMask, the true mastermind is an established character.]]
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We know the original opening for Film/TheIncredibles was Syndrome (as a minor villain) hunting down the retired heroes and killing them once they went into hiding; in fact the entire scene mirrors that deleted opening, with a 'burglar' breaking into a house to steal from it and the husband going out to confront him only to be attacked. No one knows what happened with Winston's father when he ran downstairs, only the he insisted getting to the phones and was shot dead. And Winston's father was well known to the public as a Superhero Supporter. Perhaps the criminals were Cape Hunters and Winston's father knew it and rushed to call his friends and warn them to run. While it cost him his life it might have meant the supers were able to hide... and because they disappeared no one could tell Winston and Evelyn the truth. It would even fit with the ending, where Winston also chooses not to go the safe path but to risk himself to save the supers.
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We know the original opening for Film/TheIncredibles ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'' was Syndrome (as a minor villain) hunting down the retired heroes and killing them once they went into hiding; in fact the entire scene mirrors that deleted opening, with a 'burglar' breaking into a house to steal from it and the husband going out to confront him only to be attacked. No one knows what happened with Winston's father when he ran downstairs, only the he insisted getting to the phones and was shot dead. And Winston's father was well known to the public as a Superhero Supporter. Perhaps the criminals were Cape Hunters and Winston's father knew it and rushed to call his friends and warn them to run. While it cost him his life it might have meant the supers were able to hide... and because they disappeared no one could tell Winston and Evelyn the truth. It would even fit with the ending, where Winston also chooses not to go the safe path but to risk himself to save the supers.
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Since everyone likes to joke that the incredibles are the best Fantastic Four movies ever made, let's extend it out. Screenslaver is actually a combination villain, drawing on some bits of the sister company. The base component is The Mad Thinker: a highly intelligent person who is undone by the smallest details. But the motivation is closer to something LexLuthor would have: saying that we don't want humanity to be "dependent" on supers.
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Since everyone likes to joke that the incredibles Incredibles are the best Fantastic Four movies ever made, let's extend it out. Screenslaver is actually a combination villain, drawing on some bits of the sister company. The base component is The Mad Thinker: a highly intelligent person who is undone by the smallest details. But the motivation is closer to something LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor would have: saying that we don't want humanity to be "dependent" on supers.supers.
[[WMG: ''Rise of the Underminer'' takes place after this movie in a BroadStrokes fashion.]]
Maybe the Underminer's petty bank robbery has expanded to full-blown megalomania, leading Mr. Incredible and Frozone to stop him once and for all.
[[WMG: ''Rise of the Underminer'' takes place after this movie in a BroadStrokes fashion.]]
Maybe the Underminer's petty bank robbery has expanded to full-blown megalomania, leading Mr. Incredible and Frozone to stop him once and for all.
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[[WMG: Screenslaver's supervillain inspiration]]
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She resents her life as a super hero, and wants her husband to be a normal husband.
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She resents her life as a super hero, and wants her husband to be a normal husband.retire as well.
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[[WMG: Frozone's wife is a retired super.]]
She resents her life as a super hero, and wants her husband to be a normal husband.
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[[WMG: Edna is a super, and her power is vision.]]
This not only allows her to make costumes with amazing detail, but also what allows her to watch after Jack-Jack so easily.
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[[WMG: Gazerbeam and Fironic located and captured the burglars.]]
However, since Supers were illegal by then, Winston and Evelyn never found out there were Supers involved.
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[[WMG: The Underminer will be the main villain of the third movie.]]
He planned to use the stolen money for a big scheme but he barely got more than what he spend to make his equipment.
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[[WMG: The Underminer was hired by Evelyn.]]
Because of the Omnidroid, it became likely Supers would become legal again, she hired underminer and relied upon Mr. Incredible still being the same DestructiveSavior he was back when Supers became illegal in the first place. Unfortunately for her, [[SpannerInTheWorks her brother was around]] and took upon the chance to talk to Frozone.
[[WMG: Insuricare covers several of the buildings destroyed by Underminer's attack.]]
Gilbert Huph will have a non-lethal heart attack and say it's Bob's fault.
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* Or super powerful villains don't exist at all. The government created super heroes. They did background checks on them before giving them powers, so there are no evil supers.
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* Or super powerful villains don't exist at all. The government created the super heroes. They did background checks on them before giving them powers, so there are no evil supers.
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** Or super powerful villains don't exist at all. The government created super heroes. They did background checks on them before giving them powers, so there are no evil super exist.
supers.
