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*It would, but it's likely that it's another example of the culture fusion that is the Firefly universe. In Chinese culture, white is a color of ''mourning.'' (Wearing a white dress at a wedding is incredibly perverse and in bad taste in traditional Chinese culture.)
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B) Her skills with math combine with her mind reading abilities to grant her skills similar to the {{Wolverine}} villain Mister X (who has the same abilities as River) or {{Spider-Man}} (who's spider-sense results with something similar). She knows what her opponents are doing, figures out the best way to counter, then does so, while her instincts make her strike at the absolute perfect time to deliver maximum injury, resulting in her ability to utterly destroy the people she fights.
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B) Her skills with math combine with her mind reading abilities to grant her skills similar to the {{Wolverine}} villain Mister X (who has the same abilities as River) or {{Spider-Man}} Franchise/SpiderMan (who's spider-sense results with something similar). She knows what her opponents are doing, figures out the best way to counter, then does so, while her instincts make her strike at the absolute perfect time to deliver maximum injury, resulting in her ability to utterly destroy the people she fights.
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[[WMG: The weapons used by the "Hands of Blue" are [[TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth 456 technology.]] ]]
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[[WMG: The weapons used by the "Hands of Blue" are [[TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth [[Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth 456 technology.]] ]]
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[[WMG: The weapons used by the "Hands of Blue" are [[TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth 456 technology.]] ]]
Actually, the Alliance has been "controlling the population" on the border worlds by offering their children to the 456 for years.
Actually, the Alliance has been "controlling the population" on the border worlds by offering their children to the 456 for years.
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* If you ever heard of the Tommy Westphalls universe theory, it places Star Trek and Firefly (alongside other 400 shows) together.
[[WMG: Firefly is set in the StarTrek universe but is one of the Omega colonies]]
In ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' we learn that there's such thing as an "Omega Particle", a bizarre unstable particle that destroys the subspace and makes warp travel impossible. The particle was once activated in a group of Federation's colonies isolating them forever. The events on Firefly happen in the 2500's, centuries after the events on the further existing canonical Star Trek show, plenty of time for the inhabitants to forget the existence of the Federation and alien life forms, especially after the chaos that should ensue. The destruction of Earth is only a myth and that's the reason why they can't develop (and never will) FTL technology nor can't be contacted by the Federation.
[[WMG: Firefly is set in the StarTrek universe but is one of the Omega colonies]]
In ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' we learn that there's such thing as an "Omega Particle", a bizarre unstable particle that destroys the subspace and makes warp travel impossible. The particle was once activated in a group of Federation's colonies isolating them forever. The events on Firefly happen in the 2500's, centuries after the events on the further existing canonical Star Trek show, plenty of time for the inhabitants to forget the existence of the Federation and alien life forms, especially after the chaos that should ensue. The destruction of Earth is only a myth and that's the reason why they can't develop (and never will) FTL technology nor can't be contacted by the Federation.
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Perhaps Earth has fixed its problems. Due to the larger population and the head start (the colonists wouldn't be developing very much during the trip) Earth might now be significantly more advanced and have a higher quality of life than the Firefly system. The colonists may very well have jumped ship too early and be living in relative squalor compared to the folks back in the Sol system. Matti23
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Perhaps Earth has fixed its problems. Due to the larger population and the head start (the colonists wouldn't be developing very much tech during the trip) Earth might now be significantly more advanced and have a higher quality of life than the Firefly system. The colonists may very well have jumped ship too early and be living in relative squalor compared to the folks back in the Sol system. Matti23
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[[WMG: Earth has recovered and now surpasses the Firefly system in tech]]
Perhaps Earth has fixed its problems. Due to the larger population and the head start (the colonists wouldn't be developing very much during the trip) Earth might now be significantly more advanced and have a higher quality of life than the Firefly system. The colonists may very well have jumped ship too early and be living in relative squalor compared to the folks back in the Sol system. Matti23
Perhaps Earth has fixed its problems. Due to the larger population and the head start (the colonists wouldn't be developing very much during the trip) Earth might now be significantly more advanced and have a higher quality of life than the Firefly system. The colonists may very well have jumped ship too early and be living in relative squalor compared to the folks back in the Sol system. Matti23
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*** It's also worth noting that the creation of the Reavers was not intended, and there is not a Nation in the world that would have owned up to a blunder as big as Miranda.
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They're both played by Christina Hendricks, for one, but Chair shares more than an actress with her descendant. Chair has used her body to try to worm her way to the Bellacourt fortune (it's revealed at the end of the [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler first episode]] that she's pregnant with the Commodore's lovechild, and hopes it'll be an heir. Similarly, YoSaffBridge uses her sex appeal to get together with people before using them for her own gain. Now, Another Period isn't even through it's first season (and doesn't have its own page on here yet, which is why I linked to [[TheOtherWiki another site]], so we don't know what happens to Chair or her unborn child yet, but she's implied to have been a prostitute in the past, so she may have given up offspring before. (That last part was put in in case both she and her unborn child die in the show, thus keeping the theory possible.)
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They're both played by Christina Hendricks, for one, but Chair shares more than an actress with her descendant. Chair has used her body to try to worm her way to the Bellacourt fortune (it's revealed at the end of the [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler first episode]] that she's pregnant with the Commodore's lovechild, and hopes it'll be an heir. Similarly, YoSaffBridge uses her sex appeal to get together with people before using them for her own gain. Now, Another Period isn't even through it's first season (and doesn't have its own page on here yet, which is why I linked to [[TheOtherWiki [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} another site]], so we don't know what happens to Chair or her unborn child yet, but she's implied to have been a prostitute in the past, so she may have given up offspring before. (That last part was put in in case both she and her unborn child die in the show, thus keeping the theory possible.)
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There is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_(surname) a surname]] pronounced "Tam". The ancestry may not even be that far up the family tree, either, as even having one Caucasian parent can result in Simon and River's features.
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There is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_(surname) a an East Asian surname]] pronounced "Tam". The ancestry may not even be that far up the family tree, either, as even having one Caucasian parent can result in Simon and River's features.
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In "Heart of Gold" there is a line that is translated (by the Firefly companion, not by me) as,"Swollen of her, they left. And for the first time since the Great Burn that birthed her, She was alone." The exodus from Earth was said to carry "a quarter of a billion people". So the first line makes it sound like the Earth was being completely evacuated (hence afterwards it would be alone). Yet, according to the second, the exodus only carried 3.5% of the current population, never mind the extremely overpopulated population of that time. What if there were actually multiple ships sent out though? They could have been send to different stars, each taking a share of the population, and setting up their own colony there. That way, humanity has the best chance of survival.
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In "Heart of Gold" there is a line that is translated (by the Firefly companion, not by me) as,"Swollen of her, they left. And for the first time since the Great Burn that birthed her, She was alone." The exodus from Earth was said to carry "a quarter of a billion people". So the first line makes it sound like the Earth was being completely evacuated (hence afterwards it would be alone). Yet, according to the second, the exodus only carried 3.5% of the current population, never mind the extremely overpopulated population of that time.a relatively low number got on. What if there were actually multiple ships sent out though? They could have been send to different stars, each taking a share of the population, and setting up their own colony there. That way, humanity has the best chance of survival.
[[WMG: Firefly is set in the StarTrek universe]]
The exodus in Firefly was after the great atomic horror in Star Trek (which is why they remember the Earth as such as disaster) and was only a small subset of the population who'd begun working on generation ships during World War III, convinced they needed to get to a new world. It may or may not have been before warp drive, but certainly before it became a viable technology for evacuating the Earth and the people at that time were convinced there was no time to wait for warp drive to become viable. They set out on to terraform a new solar system where they could live in peace. We probably flew right past their ships during our early space exploration because they were going so slow we barely noticed them. They did eventually make it to a new solar system and set up their home, but by this time humans from Earth next encountered them we were part of the Federation and looked upon them as another civilisation, a pre-warp civilisation, and their pre-warp status and the Prime Directive made us choose to avoid contact with them.
[[WMG: Firefly is set in the StarTrek universe]]
The exodus in Firefly was after the great atomic horror in Star Trek (which is why they remember the Earth as such as disaster) and was only a small subset of the population who'd begun working on generation ships during World War III, convinced they needed to get to a new world. It may or may not have been before warp drive, but certainly before it became a viable technology for evacuating the Earth and the people at that time were convinced there was no time to wait for warp drive to become viable. They set out on to terraform a new solar system where they could live in peace. We probably flew right past their ships during our early space exploration because they were going so slow we barely noticed them. They did eventually make it to a new solar system and set up their home, but by this time humans from Earth next encountered them we were part of the Federation and looked upon them as another civilisation, a pre-warp civilisation, and their pre-warp status and the Prime Directive made us choose to avoid contact with them.
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[[WMG: The 'verse is not the only one]]
In "Heart of Gold" there is a line that is translated (by the Firefly companion, not by me) as,"Swollen of her, they left. And for the first time since the Great Burn that birthed her, She was alone." The exodus from Earth was said to carry "a quarter of a billion people". So the first line makes it sound like the Earth was being completely evacuated (hence afterwards it would be alone). Yet, according to the second, the exodus only carried 3.5% of the current population, never mind the extremely overpopulated population of that time. What if there were actually multiple ships sent out though? They could have been send to different stars, each taking a share of the population, and setting up their own colony there. That way, humanity has the best chance of survival.
In "Heart of Gold" there is a line that is translated (by the Firefly companion, not by me) as,"Swollen of her, they left. And for the first time since the Great Burn that birthed her, She was alone." The exodus from Earth was said to carry "a quarter of a billion people". So the first line makes it sound like the Earth was being completely evacuated (hence afterwards it would be alone). Yet, according to the second, the exodus only carried 3.5% of the current population, never mind the extremely overpopulated population of that time. What if there were actually multiple ships sent out though? They could have been send to different stars, each taking a share of the population, and setting up their own colony there. That way, humanity has the best chance of survival.
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[[WMG:{{Series/Firefly}} takes place in the same universe as {{Trigun}}.]]
Both series are {{Space Western}}s, and both give off a similar vibe. {{Series/Firefly}} is the {{Trigun}} world's past. Plants were a technology that was eventually abandoned by the Alliance. This works for both the anime version and manga version as one can assume [[spoiler:any other autonomous plants simply decided to go into hiding if they had a reason to do so.]] The whole series is simply taking place on a world forgotten about by the Alliance.
Both series are {{Space Western}}s, and both give off a similar vibe. {{Series/Firefly}} is the {{Trigun}} world's past. Plants were a technology that was eventually abandoned by the Alliance. This works for both the anime version and manga version as one can assume [[spoiler:any other autonomous plants simply decided to go into hiding if they had a reason to do so.]] The whole series is simply taking place on a world forgotten about by the Alliance.
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[[WMG:{{Series/Firefly}} takes place in the same universe as {{Trigun}}.''Manga/{{Trigun}}''.]]
Both series are {{Space Western}}s, and both give off a similar vibe.{{Series/Firefly}} ''{{Series/Firefly}}'' is the {{Trigun}} ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'' world's past. Plants were a technology that was eventually abandoned by the Alliance. This works for both the anime version and manga version as one can assume [[spoiler:any other autonomous plants simply decided to go into hiding if they had a reason to do so.]] The whole series is simply taking place on a world forgotten about by the Alliance.
Both series are {{Space Western}}s, and both give off a similar vibe.
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[[WMG: Reaver society is run like [[{{Redwall}} Terramort]]]]
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[[WMG:The Blue Sun Corporation is run by [[Film/DarkCity the Strangers.]]]]
It only starts with the similarities in how both groups operate. Both send creepy, strange-talking people in nice suits and gloves after individuals who interfere with their plans (e.g. Murdoch, River.) Once you realize that, everything starts to fall into place. The Strangers agreed to work with the Alliance to further their own goals of experimenting on humans. The Pax is an early, failed version of whatever the Strangers use to [[spoiler: keep their test subjects docile and unquestioning of the inconsistencies of their simulated city]], developed by Blue Sun, ostensibly for the Alliance. The Strangers developed their ability to [[spoiler: tune]] by [[spoiler: experimenting on and studying River's brain, also learning a lot about human memory and how to alter and interfere with it in the process]]. When we see what happens to River when in Alliance custody in Serenity, she has a needle in her forehead... Hmmm, does that sound at all like [[spoiler: how the Strangers implant memories]] to you? One of the things Dark City never answered is [[spoiler: how a bunch of humans got in the middle of space anyway, with earth nowhere in sight]]. Firefly answers that pretty clearly, "earth-that-was got used up," and all. So yeah, turns out [[spoiler: there are aliens in the 'verse after all]]
It only starts with the similarities in how both groups operate. Both send creepy, strange-talking people in nice suits and gloves after individuals who interfere with their plans (e.g. Murdoch, River.) Once you realize that, everything starts to fall into place. The Strangers agreed to work with the Alliance to further their own goals of experimenting on humans. The Pax is an early, failed version of whatever the Strangers use to [[spoiler: keep their test subjects docile and unquestioning of the inconsistencies of their simulated city]], developed by Blue Sun, ostensibly for the Alliance. The Strangers developed their ability to [[spoiler: tune]] by [[spoiler: experimenting on and studying River's brain, also learning a lot about human memory and how to alter and interfere with it in the process]]. When we see what happens to River when in Alliance custody in Serenity, she has a needle in her forehead... Hmmm, does that sound at all like [[spoiler: how the Strangers implant memories]] to you? One of the things Dark City never answered is [[spoiler: how a bunch of humans got in the middle of space anyway, with earth nowhere in sight]]. Firefly answers that pretty clearly, "earth-that-was got used up," and all. So yeah, turns out [[spoiler: there are aliens in the 'verse after all]]
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[[WMG: [[StarWars Han Solo]], [[IndianaJones Indy]], and Mal are all part of the same family]]
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[[WMG: NathanFillion will eventually find a way to secure the rights to Firefly and make an animated series out of it.]]
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Both are SpaceWestern shows about a BadassCrew of outlaws travelling the solar system on a [[WhatAPieceOfJunk sturdy and dependable bucket of bolts]], and society is a weird mishmash of different cultures [[SchizoTech and time periods.]] Admit it, [[SoCoolItsAwesome this is so cool it has to be true.]]
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Both are SpaceWestern shows about a BadassCrew of outlaws travelling the solar system on a [[WhatAPieceOfJunk sturdy and dependable bucket of bolts]], and society is a weird mishmash of different cultures [[SchizoTech and time periods.]] Admit it, [[SoCoolItsAwesome [[SugarWiki/SoCoolItsAwesome this is so cool it has to be true.]]
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** Wait a moment... [[{{Friends}} that's one letter away from Joincidence!]]
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** Wait a moment... [[{{Friends}} [[Series/{{Friends}} that's one letter away from Joincidence!]]
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[[WMG:The Alliance are the precursors of the [[MilesVorkosigan Cetagandan Empire]].]]
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[[WMG:The Alliance are the precursors of the [[MilesVorkosigan [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Cetagandan Empire]].]]
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** I always felt the Reavers more Orc-like than Zombie-like, I don' get why most people seem to feel their like zombies or 28 Days Later infected. Orcs are very similar; cruel, sadistic, violent, get in berserker frenzy during battle, but other than that can forge weapons and have chains of command. So I see no reason why Reavers can't be similar.
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** I always felt the Reavers more Orc-like than Zombie-like, I don' don't get why most people seem to feel their like zombies or 28 Days Later infected. Orcs are very similar; cruel, sadistic, violent, get in berserker frenzy during battle, but other than that can forge weapons and have chains of command. So I see no reason why Reavers can't be similar.
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Jayne has implied to Mal that Jayne would turn on Mal for a sufficient sum of money, and not a ludicrously large sum either. But when Jayne got an offer from Dobson that has to be high enough, he turned it down. Jayne is loyal to Mal and only keeps up this façade to ensure that Mal makes paying Jayne a priority and that people take pains to avoid pissing him off. He was willing to betray Simon and River because he didn't consider them crew.
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Jayne has implied to Mal that Jayne would turn on Mal for a sufficient sum of money, and not a ludicrously large sum either. But when Jayne got an offer from Dobson that has to be high enough, he turned it down. Jayne is loyal to Mal and only keeps up this façade facade to ensure that Mal makes paying Jayne a priority and that people take pains to avoid pissing him off. He was willing to betray Simon and River because he didn't consider them crew.
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#Earth is destroyed several times while Fry Sr. is [[HumanPopsicle frozen]], the first of which was the incentive to start colonizing space - his nephew Fry Jr. was the first man on Mars, and a few centuries later humanity has reached a new Solar System and established new planetary civilizations, with the latest scion being Wash, a lovable [[RedHeadedHero redheaded]] [UnfazedEveryman everyman]] in a RagtagBunchOfMisfits [[AC:InSpace!]].
#Having repaired its economy, humanity returns (post-''Firefly'') to Earth-That-Was to rebuild, and a descendant of the Fry line (a great''[[superscript:n]]''-nephew of Fry senior) named Hubert Farnsworth is still running an interplanetary courier business, though now legitimate, when he meets his great''[[superscript:n]]''-uncle, who true to the family line takes up residence as the lovable [[RedHeadedHero redheaded]] [[UnfazedEveryman everyman]] in a RagtagBunchOfMisfits [[AC:InSpace!]].
#Having repaired its economy, humanity returns (post-''Firefly'') to Earth-That-Was to rebuild, and a descendant of the Fry line (a great''[[superscript:n]]''-nephew of Fry senior) named Hubert Farnsworth is still running an interplanetary courier business, though now legitimate, when he meets his great''[[superscript:n]]''-uncle, who true to the family line takes up residence as the lovable [[RedHeadedHero redheaded]] [[UnfazedEveryman everyman]] in a RagtagBunchOfMisfits [[AC:InSpace!]].
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#Earth is destroyed several times while Fry Sr. is [[HumanPopsicle frozen]], the first of which was the incentive to start colonizing space - his nephew Fry Jr. was the first man on Mars, and a few centuries later humanity has reached a new Solar System and established new planetary civilizations, with the latest scion being Wash, a lovable [[RedHeadedHero redheaded]] redheaded [UnfazedEveryman everyman]] in a RagtagBunchOfMisfits [[AC:InSpace!]].
#Having repaired its economy, humanity returns (post-''Firefly'') to Earth-That-Was to rebuild, and a descendant of the Fry line (a great''[[superscript:n]]''-nephew of Fry senior) named Hubert Farnsworth is still running an interplanetary courier business, though now legitimate, when he meets his great''[[superscript:n]]''-uncle, who true to the family line takes up residence as the lovable[[RedHeadedHero redheaded]] redheaded [[UnfazedEveryman everyman]] in a RagtagBunchOfMisfits [[AC:InSpace!]].
#Having repaired its economy, humanity returns (post-''Firefly'') to Earth-That-Was to rebuild, and a descendant of the Fry line (a great''[[superscript:n]]''-nephew of Fry senior) named Hubert Farnsworth is still running an interplanetary courier business, though now legitimate, when he meets his great''[[superscript:n]]''-uncle, who true to the family line takes up residence as the lovable
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*** The cycles of history in BSG don't require every detail to be the same, just the general themes. more people and ships survived the fall of the 12 colonies than Kobol for example, and the 12 colonies cylons followed the fleet, unlike the 13th tribe of kobol, which went their own way. etc. and the Colonials abandoning their tech was meant to try and break the cycle. not to mention that the final scene of BSG is clearly meant to reflect modern day society on the cusp of making new cylon type beings.
*Given the similarities between the 'verse and the system the 12 colonies was in, with so many habitable worlds and moons, perhaps the 'Verse actually is the site of the 12 colonies, having laid fallow for nearly half a million years. Earth Humanity arrives, settles the habitable worlds (now free of the fallout), and terraforms the moons and less habitable worlds.
*Given the similarities between the 'verse and the system the 12 colonies was in, with so many habitable worlds and moons, perhaps the 'Verse actually is the site of the 12 colonies, having laid fallow for nearly half a million years. Earth Humanity arrives, settles the habitable worlds (now free of the fallout), and terraforms the moons and less habitable worlds.
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[[WMG: River is a [[ThePretender Pretender]].]]
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[[WMG: River is a [[ThePretender [[Series/ThePretender Pretender]].]]