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*** In datamines, she will appears as Mother Harlot.
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*** In datamines, she will appears appear as Mother Harlot.
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*** Datamine already reveals that there's a Grand Saber voiced by Kawasumi, so it's most likely the latter.
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*** Probably one of the Hassans.
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** Debatable. Attila's profile and Interludes state that she is found on a western African ruins by the Huns, with her Photon Ray laying nearby. Also, she talks foundly about the planet Mars... most likely, she is an extraterrestial lifeform from that planet... or maybe, TYPE-MARS?!
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[[WMG: The game will release more alternates classes for Servents.]]
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[[WMG: The game will release more alternates classes for Servents.Servants.]]
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** Rider Nero.
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** Saber Jeanne with La Pucelle.
** RiderNero. Nero/Saber Bride
*** In datamines, she will appears as Mother Harlot.
** Rider
*** In datamines, she will appears as Mother Harlot.
*** More like Assassin EMIYA.
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*** This is concerning. In datamines, there aren't any Archer Herc...
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We've got [[spoiler: Solomon]] saying he's fought Types, it seems this whole thing is a leadup to stop Notes from happening.
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We've got [[spoiler: Solomon]] saying he's fought Types, it seems this whole thing is a leadup to stop Notes from happening.happening.
[[WMG: The Holy Grail item we won will be the material of Fifth Ascension]]
Aka the creation of our own Grand Servant.
[[WMG: The Grand Servant predictions]]
The Grand class is reserved for the strongest/most broken Servants in Fate franchise. We already have Solomon as Grand Caster, so...
** Grand Saber: Either Arthur or our dear cash cow Arturia.
** Grand Lancer: Enkidu. Karna and Scathach also possible.
** Grand Archer: Gilgamesh. Arjuna or Archer Heracles also possible.
** Grand Rider: Iskandar. Ramesses II also possible.
** Grand Assassin: ???
** Grand Berserker: ???
True Servants from Fate/strange fake also possible. They have True Archer that can tank Gate of Babylon, and True Rider that can stomp that True Archer...
[[WMG: The Holy Grail item we won will be the material of Fifth Ascension]]
Aka the creation of our own Grand Servant.
[[WMG: The Grand Servant predictions]]
The Grand class is reserved for the strongest/most broken Servants in Fate franchise. We already have Solomon as Grand Caster, so...
** Grand Saber: Either Arthur or our dear cash cow Arturia.
** Grand Lancer: Enkidu. Karna and Scathach also possible.
** Grand Archer: Gilgamesh. Arjuna or Archer Heracles also possible.
** Grand Rider: Iskandar. Ramesses II also possible.
** Grand Assassin: ???
** Grand Berserker: ???
True Servants from Fate/strange fake also possible. They have True Archer that can tank Gate of Babylon, and True Rider that can stomp that True Archer...
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** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs. Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be made.
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** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs.hogs (in Fate/Zero, Berserker activating his noble phantasm burned through several hours of mana reserves and kill his master in ''less than 15 seconds''). Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be made.
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* This is going to be tricky to be played 100% straight: since FGO takes place 11 years after FSN, a potential child of Shirou and Rin's wouldn't be any older than 10.
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* This is going to be tricky to be played 100% straight: since FGO takes place 11 years after FSN, FSN (2015 compared to FSN's 2004, a date established in the Fuyuki segment of FGO), a potential child of Shirou and Rin's wouldn't be any older than 10.
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* This is going to be tricky to be played 100% straight: since FGO takes place 11 years after FSN, a potential child of Shirou and Rin's wouldn't be any older than 10.
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[[WMG: The Protagonist, whatever their gender, is likely a child or descendant of Shirou and Rin.]]
Considering Chaldea seems to be set in a future where magecraft can allow a legitimate career in super-heroics (and Shirou and Rin are avoiding the Mage Association), it's probably not a surprise that such terrifying power for a Master (5 servants at the same time!) is possessed by the deadbeat, last-minute protagonist.
Considering Chaldea seems to be set in a future where magecraft can allow a legitimate career in super-heroics (and Shirou and Rin are avoiding the Mage Association), it's probably not a surprise that such terrifying power for a Master (5 servants at the same time!) is possessed by the deadbeat, last-minute protagonist.
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** Jossed, it's the same Servant, but the reason she became Alice is because her existence was unstable going through book and Alice form so she picked Alice to honor her wish of having someone to play with.
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Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and master Alice's soul are a perfect fusion.
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Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and master Alice's soul are a perfect fusion.fusion.
[[WMG: [[http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Type_Mercury ORT]] will finally be a BonusBoss]]
We've got [[spoiler: Solomon]] saying he's fought Types, it seems this whole thing is a leadup to stop Notes from happening.
[[WMG: [[http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Type_Mercury ORT]] will finally be a BonusBoss]]
We've got [[spoiler: Solomon]] saying he's fought Types, it seems this whole thing is a leadup to stop Notes from happening.
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Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and master Alice's soul are a perfect fusion.
* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity.
* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity.
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Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and master Alice's soul are a perfect fusion.
* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity.fusion.
* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity.
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* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their Servant/Master, Waver is hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their Servant/Master, Waver is hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their Servant/Master, Waver is hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. The Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their Servant/Master, Waver is hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Servant/Master, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion. However the one in the Christmas event story might have fused with Alice as she has partial memories but it's not a perfect fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme that you summon refers to the one that was with Alice as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion. However the one in the Christmas event story might have fused with Alice as she has partial memories but it's not a perfect fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme's [=MyRoom=] lines mentions that this isn't the one that was with Alice and refers to her as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme's [=MyRoom=] lines mentions Rhyme that this isn't you summon refers to the one that was with Alice and refers to her as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion. However the one in the Christmas event story might have fused with Alice as she has partial memories but it's not a perfect fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme's [=MyRoom=] lines mentions that this isn't the one that was with Alice and refers to her as a separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit and has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme's [=MyRoom=] lines mentions that this isn't the one that was with Alice and refers to her as a completely separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit and Spirit, has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master, Master in F/GO, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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* {{Jossed}}. Nursery Rhyme's [=MyRoom=] lines mentions that this isn't the one that was with Alice and refers to her as a separate entity. In addition, neither Waver or Jean fused with their masters, Waver is explicitly hosting a Heroic Spirit and has become a pseudo-Servant and isn't a Master, while Jean's host isn't a Master and was not a permanent fusion.
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Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and Alice master Alice's soul are a perfect fusion.
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[[WMG: Nursery Rhyme kept her Alice Persona because she fused with master Alice.]]
Fate/Extra said that Alice as Nursery Rhyme would be someone different in a different war. As we see with Waver or Jean D'Arc, a Master and a Servant can fuse, with differing levels of personality. Alice and Alice are a perfect fusion.
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** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs. Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be made
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** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs. Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be mademade.
[[WMG: The game will release more alternates classes for Servents.]]
Since they release a couple of these already with Caster Elizabeth and Cu Chulainn, it be understandable there will be more. Guesses of possible classes;
** Rider Nero.
** Saber EMIYA.
** Berserker Cu Chulainn.
** Archer Hercules.
[[WMG: The game will release more alternates classes for Servents.]]
Since they release a couple of these already with Caster Elizabeth and Cu Chulainn, it be understandable there will be more. Guesses of possible classes;
** Rider Nero.
** Saber EMIYA.
** Berserker Cu Chulainn.
** Archer Hercules.
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This means that they aren't strong enough to activate God Hand, or at least keep it actively on (a notion supported by the UBW anime, where Heracles' skin turns from lead to black whenever he fights), thus causing Heracles to lose this enhanced durability and be susceptible to even the weakest attacks. On the other hand, the shadow Heracles in Fuyuki ''does'' have God Hand active, due to either carrying a link to Illya or a stronger source, represented in-game by an absurd amount of HP.
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This means that they aren't strong enough to activate God Hand, or at least keep it actively on (a notion supported by the UBW anime, where Heracles' skin turns from lead to black whenever he fights), thus causing Heracles to lose this enhanced durability and be susceptible to even the weakest attacks. On the other hand, the shadow Heracles in Fuyuki ''does'' have God Hand active, due to either carrying a link to Illya or a stronger source, represented in-game by an absurd amount of HP.HP.
** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs. Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be made
** Reasonable as Illya is a massive mana battery beyond that of normal humans and Berserkers are infamous mana hogs. Thus for a normal human to use Herc as a berserker, compromises had to be made
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Tribal warfare can cause trauma beyond anything a modern Japanese girl can endure. When Atilla was young, she was captured by another tribe. That night ended with her reaching out deep inside and take the place of the Other there. This happened to be the same place one's Reality Marble is. The Other turned Attilla's pain into rainbows, and the Other manifested permanently. Of the tribe that captured her, there were no survivors.
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Tribal warfare can cause trauma beyond anything a modern Japanese girl can endure. When Atilla was young, she was captured by another tribe. That night ended with her reaching out deep inside and take the place of the Other there. This happened to be the same place one's Reality Marble is. The Other turned Attilla's pain into rainbows, and the Other manifested permanently. Of the tribe that captured her, there were no survivors.survivors.
[[WMG: The reason that Heracles is a lot flimsier than in Fate/Stay Night is because the protagonist is a much weaker Master than Illya.]]
This means that they aren't strong enough to activate God Hand, or at least keep it actively on (a notion supported by the UBW anime, where Heracles' skin turns from lead to black whenever he fights), thus causing Heracles to lose this enhanced durability and be susceptible to even the weakest attacks. On the other hand, the shadow Heracles in Fuyuki ''does'' have God Hand active, due to either carrying a link to Illya or a stronger source, represented in-game by an absurd amount of HP.
[[WMG: The reason that Heracles is a lot flimsier than in Fate/Stay Night is because the protagonist is a much weaker Master than Illya.]]
This means that they aren't strong enough to activate God Hand, or at least keep it actively on (a notion supported by the UBW anime, where Heracles' skin turns from lead to black whenever he fights), thus causing Heracles to lose this enhanced durability and be susceptible to even the weakest attacks. On the other hand, the shadow Heracles in Fuyuki ''does'' have God Hand active, due to either carrying a link to Illya or a stronger source, represented in-game by an absurd amount of HP.
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* No doubt, but cause and effect are funny things with time travel; if nothing else the above makes the plan easier to implement.
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* t was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
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* t It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
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* It was her Sire, the insane Zepia Eltnam Oberon who became Night of Wallachia; who witnessed the end of the world and hoped to create enough random chaos that some immpossible to forsee event could stop Program Six; the End of the World.
* It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
* It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
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* It was her Sire, the insane Zepia Eltnam Oberon who became Night of Wallachia; who witnessed the end of the world and hoped to create enough random chaos that some immpossible impossible to forsee foresee event could stop Program Six; the End of the World.
*It t was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
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[[WMG: Attila was a Hun child whose traumatic experiences caused her to take the place of her [[Franchise/BlackRockShooter Otherself]], who brought her Reality Marble with her.]]
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[[WMG: Attila [[http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Saber_%28Fate/Grand_Order_-_Attila%29 Attila]] was a Hun child whose traumatic experiences caused her to take the place of her [[Franchise/BlackRockShooter Otherself]], who brought her Reality Marble with her.]]
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* No doubt, but cause and effect are funny things with time travel; if nothing else the above makes the plan easier to implement.
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* No doubt, but cause and effect are funny things with time travel; if nothing else the above makes the plan easier to implement.implement.
[[WMG: Attila was a Hun child whose traumatic experiences caused her to take the place of her [[Franchise/BlackRockShooter Otherself]], who brought her Reality Marble with her.]]
Tribal warfare can cause trauma beyond anything a modern Japanese girl can endure. When Atilla was young, she was captured by another tribe. That night ended with her reaching out deep inside and take the place of the Other there. This happened to be the same place one's Reality Marble is. The Other turned Attilla's pain into rainbows, and the Other manifested permanently. Of the tribe that captured her, there were no survivors.
[[WMG: Attila was a Hun child whose traumatic experiences caused her to take the place of her [[Franchise/BlackRockShooter Otherself]], who brought her Reality Marble with her.]]
Tribal warfare can cause trauma beyond anything a modern Japanese girl can endure. When Atilla was young, she was captured by another tribe. That night ended with her reaching out deep inside and take the place of the Other there. This happened to be the same place one's Reality Marble is. The Other turned Attilla's pain into rainbows, and the Other manifested permanently. Of the tribe that captured her, there were no survivors.
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* Possibly jossed as it is currently implied by the end of the Rome segment that [[spoiler: King Solomon and the ArsGoetia are likely behind the games events.]]
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* Possibly jossed as it is currently implied by the end of the Rome segment that [[spoiler: King Solomon and the ArsGoetia are likely behind the games events.]]]]
* No doubt, but cause and effect are funny things with time travel; if nothing else the above makes the plan easier to implement.
* No doubt, but cause and effect are funny things with time travel; if nothing else the above makes the plan easier to implement.
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* It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
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* It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osiris; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.forward.
* Possibly jossed as it is currently implied by the end of the Rome segment that [[spoiler: King Solomon and the ArsGoetia are likely behind the games events.]]
* Possibly jossed as it is currently implied by the end of the Rome segment that [[spoiler: King Solomon and the ArsGoetia are likely behind the games events.]]
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[[WMG: The Chaldea Projects arose from [[Videogame/MeltyBlood Sion]] changing Mage Culture to more cooperative.]]
Originally, Sion was on the run for sharing research on how to cure vampirism, sharing ANY information is taboo for mages. But by the end of the manga, she was overseeing mage projects, with [[OperationBlank Project: Blank]] names.
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Originally, Sion was on the run for sharing research on how to cure vampirism, sharing ANY information is taboo for mages. But by the end of the manga, she was [[http://www.mangahere.co/manga/melty_blood_act_2/c007.7/3.html overseeing cooperative mage
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Originally, Sion was on the run for sharing research on how to cure vampirism, sharing ANY information is taboo for mages. But by the end of the manga, she was overseeing mage projects, with [[OperationBlank Project: Blank]] names.
* It was her Sire, the insane Zepia Eltnam Oberon who became Night of Wallachia; who witnessed the end of the world and hoped to create enough random chaos that some immpossible to forsee event could stop Program Six; the End of the World.
* It was her sentient blood's future self; Dust of Osirus; who planted the seeds of time travel; having traveled from a future 1000 years forward.
