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** Considering that he refused to include safety nets for Dumbo and Collette, among other things, I prefer to think he died from smoke inhalation.
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[[WMG: The second half of the movie seems to be partially based on the [[DirectToVideo Dumbo 2]] sequel that never happened.]]
From the way the movie's second half plays out, the movie's plot could have easily been part of the plot for the animated sequel that never happened, so it would somewhat be more of a SpiritualSuccessor to the actual sequel in secret.
From the way the movie's second half plays out, the movie's plot could have easily been part of the plot for the animated sequel that never happened, so it would somewhat be more of a SpiritualSuccessor to the actual sequel in secret.
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[[WMG: The second half of the movie seems to be partially based on the [[DirectToVideo Dumbo 2]] sequel that never happened.]]
From the way the movie's second half plays out, the movie's plot could have easily been part of the plot for the animated sequel that never happened, so it would somewhat be more of a SpiritualSuccessor to the actual sequel in secret.
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* Confirmed: While not animated, the front of the locomotive obviously resembles a face.
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* Confirmed: By the standard "No animals were harmed..." disclaimer at the end of the credits.
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* During the scene, the they start as following normal "bubble" physics, but eventually the CGI took over and the last elephant-bubble absorbed the others, almost like sucking them in through its trunk.
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* During the scene, the start as following normal "bubble" physics, but eventually the CGI took over and the last elephant-bubble absorbed the others, almost like sucking them in through its trunk.
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** It was said during the film that he was short on money, which is why he had a big-name banker at the show(s), trying to drum up money for Dreamland.
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This is the weird guessing some people have.
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From the way the movie's second half plays out, the movie's plot could have easily been part of the plot for the animated sequel that never happened, so it would somewhat be more of a SpiritualSuccessor to the actual sequel in secret.
From the way the movie's second half plays out, the movie's plot could have easily been part of the plot for the animated sequel that never happened, so it would somewhat be more of a SpiritualSuccessor to the actual sequel in secret.
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[[WMG:Vandervere was financially ruined after the film.]]
OK, that's just a guess, as the last he is seen is when Dreamland is being destroyed by fire. But the intent was to -- in the WhereAreTheyNow scene -- include him in his final days as a poor, broke beggar on the streets of New York, but simply being ignored (as everyone knows who he is and that he was a terrible person).
[[WMG:Dumbo lives a long, happy life in Asia.]]
Back in his native Asia, Dumbo lives until the early 1980s, and sires two young elephant sons who can also fly. A tag scene, noting it is now the early 1960s, has the now-adult Farrier children on safari in Asia and they have a chance meeting with Dumbo ... who remembers them and there is a joyous reunion. (His mother, Jumbo, had died several years earlier of a natural death; Holt had also passed away by the time this trip takes place, but Collette whom Holt eventually marries, accompanies her stepchildren on the trip.)
OK, that's just a guess, as the last he is seen is when Dreamland is being destroyed by fire. But the intent was to -- in the WhereAreTheyNow scene -- include him in his final days as a poor, broke beggar on the streets of New York, but simply being ignored (as everyone knows who he is and that he was a terrible person).
[[WMG:Dumbo lives a long, happy life in Asia.]]
Back in his native Asia, Dumbo lives until the early 1980s, and sires two young elephant sons who can also fly. A tag scene, noting it is now the early 1960s, has the now-adult Farrier children on safari in Asia and they have a chance meeting with Dumbo ... who remembers them and there is a joyous reunion. (His mother, Jumbo, had died several years earlier of a natural death; Holt had also passed away by the time this trip takes place, but Collette whom Holt eventually marries, accompanies her stepchildren on the trip.)
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* The Pink Elephants are actually a complex bubble display trick.
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* Technically inverted; the actual ''ringmaster'' is [[spoiler:finally in favour of Dumbo's freedom]], but [[spoiler:his negative qualities are transferred to Vandervere]].
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circus, which is confirmed in the final film.
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* [[spoiler:Holt is shown on a horse, but this was actually to save his children after Dumbo's escape]].
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** [[spoiler:Thanksfully, [[spoiler:Thankfully, [[JossedTrope Jossed]] as she's been rescued by the circus employees.]]
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** [[spoiler:Thanksfully, [[JossedTrope Jossed]] as she's been rescued by the circus employees.]]
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** Well, perhaps the guess was right. The second trailer implies it's some kind of bubble act done by the circus.
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This isn't the 1940s anymore, and circuses got quite a bad rep for AnimalCruelty since then. Disney would not want to look like a company endorsing animal cruelty.
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[[WMG: There will be a disclaimer either at the beginning or the end that Disney does not endorse circus acts with animals.]]
This isn't the 1940s anymore, and circuses got quite a bad rep for AnimalCruelty since then. Disney would not want to look like a company endorsing animal cruelty.
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[[WMG: Casey Jr. will be realistically portrayed.]]
Rather than try to make a CG monstrosity of an anthropomorphic train, Disney will instead portray Casey Jr. using a real locomotive like Fillmore & Western No. 14 or Sierra Railway No. 3.
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* [[BigNo NO!]] I hope this doesn't happen. That would be way too sad. Especially since she really didn't deserve it. She was just trying to protect her baby (at least that's true for with the original version).
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[[WMG: The "Pink Elephants on Parade" sequence is the whole reason Disney picked Tim Burton to direct this movie.]]
* Because [[DisneyAcidSequence obviously]].
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[[WMG: Mrs. Jumbo will suffer DeathByAdaptation]]
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[[WMG: There will be a rescue scene at the film's climax.]]
For a brief moment in the teaser, we can see Holt riding on horseback through the gates of Dreamland in the middle of a crowd, looking as if he's rushing towards something. It's most likely he's on his way to rescue Dumbo from danger and help him out of whatever jam he's gotten himself into at Dreamland.
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[[WMG: The Pink Elephants will not be part of a DisneyAcidSequence, but rather a part of a circus act.]]
The trailer shows one appearing inside a circus tent, implying that they will appear as illusions in a show, with their pink coloration being due to a lighting effect. Their appearance in such a scene would be more or less a nod to the scene in the cartoon, perhaps with an instrumental variation of the song being played in the background.
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[[WMG:The Pink Elephants on Parade sequence will be featured.]]
If the movie is directed by Tim Burton, then it will be recreated in his trademark StopMotion style.
* We do see a glimpse of one of the Pink Elephants in the first trailer, but it seems to be rendered in CGI rather than stop motion.
[[WMG: The ringmaster will go through AdaptationalVillainy.]]
Much like in ''VideoGame/DisneysVillainsRevenge''.
[[WMG:The Pink Elephants will be less whimsical and more ethereal.]]
Rather than dancing around to a catchy musical number, they'll be be floating around silently, maybe pulling {{Nightmare Face}}s or something, all to a more bleak, ominous soundtrack. The Pink Elephant we briefly see in the trailer seems like it won't be nearly as lively as the ones in the original movie.
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If the movie is directed by Tim Burton, then it will be recreated in his trademark StopMotion style.
* We do see a glimpse of one of the Pink Elephants in the first trailer, but it seems to be rendered in CGI rather than stop motion.
[[WMG: The ringmaster will go through AdaptationalVillainy.]]
Much like in ''VideoGame/DisneysVillainsRevenge''.
[[WMG:The Pink Elephants will be less whimsical and more ethereal.]]
Rather than dancing around to a catchy musical number, they'll be be floating around silently, maybe pulling {{Nightmare Face}}s or something, all to a more bleak, ominous soundtrack. The Pink Elephant we briefly see in the trailer seems like it won't be nearly as lively as the ones in the original movie.
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