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[[WMG: Violet is related to Professor McGonagall and Cousin Maud is related to Professor Umbridge]]
* It would presumably have to be through McGonagall's father, unless there's a Squib line on her mother's side. Incidentally, Maggie Smith also played Mrs. Medlock in the 1993 film, though Highclere Castle was only used in the 1987 version.
* It would presumably have to be through McGonagall's father, unless there's a Squib line on her mother's side. Incidentally, Maggie Smith also played Mrs. Medlock in the 1993 film, though Highclere Castle was only used in the 1987 version.
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[[WMG: Violet is related to Professor McGonagall [=McGonagall=] and Cousin Maud is related to Professor Umbridge]]
* It would presumably have to be throughMcGonagall's [=McGonagall's=] father, unless there's a Squib line on her mother's side. Incidentally, Maggie Smith also played Mrs. Medlock in the 1993 film, though Highclere Castle was only used in the 1987 version.
* It would presumably have to be through
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[[WMG: Violet is related to Professor McGonagall and Cousin Maud is related to Professor Umbridge]]
* It would presumably have to be through McGonagall's father, unless there's a Squib line on her mother's side. Incidentally, Maggie Smith also played Mrs. Medlock in the 1993 film, though Highclere Castle was only used in the 1987 version.
* And Umbridge would have to also be related through her mother. Their animosity has continued through the generations when they "reunite" at Hogwarts and instantly dislike each other.
[[WMG: Violet is related to Professor McGonagall and Cousin Maud is related to Professor Umbridge]]
* It would presumably have to be through McGonagall's father, unless there's a Squib line on her mother's side. Incidentally, Maggie Smith also played Mrs. Medlock in the 1993 film, though Highclere Castle was only used in the 1987 version.
* And Umbridge would have to also be related through her mother. Their animosity has continued through the generations when they "reunite" at Hogwarts and instantly dislike each other.
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* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]
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* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]
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Not only does Sophie McShera bear a striking resemblance to Carla Gallo, the two characters seem to share a lot of the same GenkiGirl personality traits, although they are much more repressed in the humble, "simple-minded girl" role of subservient Daisy Robinson.
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Not only does Sophie McShera [=McShera=] bear a striking resemblance to Carla Gallo, the two characters seem to share a lot of the same GenkiGirl personality traits, although they are much more repressed in the humble, "simple-minded girl" role of subservient Daisy Robinson.
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Not only does Sophie McShera bear a striking resemblance to Carla Gallo, the two characters seem to share a lot of the same [[GenkiGirl]] GenkiGirl personality traits, although they are much more repressed in the humble, "simple-minded girl" role of subservient Daisy Robinson.
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Not only does Sophie McShera bear a striking resemblence resemblance to Carla Gallo, the two characters seem to share a lot of the same [[Genki Girl]] [[GenkiGirl]] personality traits, although they are much more repressed in the humble, "simple minded "simple-minded girl" role of subservient Daisy Robinson.
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Think about it. When the show starts Mary is a spoiled and self-centered brat but over the 3 seasons she grew more and more mature. And now, with the [[spoiler: death of Matthew]] she will have to grow more mature to handle the changing world.
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Think about it. When the show starts Mary is a spoiled and self-centered brat but over the 3 seasons seasons, she grew more and more mature. And now, with the [[spoiler: death of Matthew]] she will have to grow more mature to handle the changing world.
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** Mary has so far killed Mr Pamuk and Matthew.
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** Mary has so far killed Mr Mr. Pamuk and Matthew.
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** [[spoiler: And now that Edith and Mr Grigson have slept together, he's died in Germany.]]
[[WMG: Somewhere in the shows time skips a few episodes of [[Series/JeevesAndWooster Jeeves and Wooster]] occured.]]
[[WMG: Somewhere in the shows time skips a few episodes of [[Series/JeevesAndWooster Jeeves and Wooster]] occured.]]
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** [[spoiler: And now that Edith and Mr Mr. Grigson have slept together, he's died in Germany.]]
[[WMG: Somewhere in the shows time skips a few episodes of [[Series/JeevesAndWooster Jeeves and Wooster]]occured.occurred.]]
[[WMG: Somewhere in the shows time skips a few episodes of [[Series/JeevesAndWooster Jeeves and Wooster]]
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[[WMG:The series will at least reach 1925]]
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* Partially jossed, the show ends on New Year's Eve 1927, but the abolishment of the entail isn't brought up.
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* Partially jossed, Jossed, the show ends on New Year's Eve 1927, but the abolishment of the entail isn't brought up.
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Since we now know the series won't make it all the way to WWII (and it would have had to have been quite a long runner to do that) they'll need some other event to cap the series, and Robert's death is a natural end to the era at Downton (an alternative, the start of the Great Depression, is more the beginning of an era than the end of one). The other characters are dispensable, but Robert is the series tentpole; without him there is no Downton. It's traditional in drama for the paterfamilias to die and pass on his mantle to the next generation of leadership, in this case Mary and whoever she winds up wedding; presumably the faux-angina episode is foreshadowing.
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Since we now know the series won't make it all the way to WWII (and it would have had to have been quite a long runner to do that) they'll need some other event to cap the series, and Robert's death is a natural end to the era at Downton (an alternative, the start of the Great Depression, is more the beginning of an era than the end of one). The other characters are dispensable, but Robert is the series tentpole; without him there is no Downton. It's traditional in drama for the paterfamilias to die and pass on his mantle to the next generation of leadership, in this case case, Mary and whoever she winds up wedding; presumably the faux-angina episode is foreshadowing.
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Unless he got some offsreen while on the boat to America.]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Unless he got some offsreen offscreen while on the boat to America.]]
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Matthew may have been the next heir, but he died before the title and property passed to him. If there is another adult male heir who was just as close a relation to the Earl as Matthew was, but a little bit younger or otherwise put behind him in the succession, they may still be ahead of the one-generation-further-removed baby. Of course, once entails are outlawed in 1925, Mary will be declared the heir instead, but they won't be able to resist milking the succession issues one more time for everyone who hasn't looked up entails....
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Matthew may have been the next heir, but he died before the title and property passed to him. If there is another adult male heir who was just as close a relation to the Earl as Matthew was, but a little bit younger or otherwise put behind him in the succession, they may still be ahead of the one-generation-further-removed baby. Of course, once entails are outlawed in 1925, Mary will be declared the heir instead, but they won't be able to resist milking the succession issues one more time for everyone who hasn't looked up entails....entails...
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[[WMG: Mr Carson and Mrs Hughes will eventually retire and then marry each other.]]
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[[WMG: Mr Mr. Carson and Mrs Mrs. Hughes will eventually retire and then marry each other.]]
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HIGHLY unlikely - Downton is in the middle of nowhere, and the bombings were centred around major cities and areas of industry (London, Liverpool etc). Bombing a country house seems a pointless waste of ammo.
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Molesley will marry Baxter. Later on it will be revealed that, in the past, Molesley was in prison for a crime he did not commit or was forced to commit. His reluctance to reveal all the details will cost him his job. But just as he sinks into depression, he will receive an inheritance. Only, he will feel he does not deserve such inheritance because of the complicated and/or dramatic romantic circumstances surrounding said inheritance. But eventually he will realize he does deserve the inheritance or will accept it to help Baxter. He will need to help Baxter because her former boyfriend, the one who talked her into stealing in the past, will arrive to Downton to blackmail her after finding out about her marriage and Molesley's inheritance. Said former boyfriend will die mysteriously, and his death will before long be deemed a murder. Molesley will suspect Baxter killed her former boyfriend so he will take the blame and go to prison. He will be released soon, once it's proven that the former boyfriend's death was actually an accident, unfortunately Molesley will not be released before he loses a hand during a prison riot. Still, even though he lost a hand, he will be hired as a valet by a returning Branson, much to the chagrin of Carson and annoyance of Thomas.
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Molesley will marry Baxter. Later on on, it will be revealed that, in the past, Molesley was in prison for a crime he did not commit or was forced to commit. His reluctance to reveal all the details will cost him his job. But just as he sinks into depression, he will receive an inheritance. Only, he will feel he does not deserve such inheritance because of the complicated and/or dramatic romantic circumstances surrounding said inheritance. But eventually he will realize he does deserve the inheritance or will accept it to help Baxter. He will need to help Baxter because her former boyfriend, the one who talked her into stealing in the past, will arrive to Downton to blackmail her after finding out about her marriage and Molesley's inheritance. Said former boyfriend will die mysteriously, and his death will before long be deemed a murder. Molesley will suspect Baxter killed her former boyfriend so he will take the blame and go to prison. He will be released soon, once it's proven that the former boyfriend's death was actually an accident, unfortunately Molesley will not be released before he loses a hand during a prison riot. Still, even though he lost a hand, he will be hired as a valet by a returning Branson, much to the chagrin of Carson and annoyance of Thomas.
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* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. And it's also why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.
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* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. And it's also why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.quickly.
[[WMG: Major Gordon is Patrick Crawley…]]
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* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. This is why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.
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* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. This is And it's also why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.
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* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]]
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* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]]]
[[WMG: Downton Abbey is a GeniusLoci that uses the Crawley sisters to ensnare men so that it can feed on their life energy.]]
* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. This is why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.
[[WMG: Downton Abbey is a GeniusLoci that uses the Crawley sisters to ensnare men so that it can feed on their life energy.]]
* This is why Kemal Pamuk, Matthew Crawley, and Michael Gregson all died after sleeping with a Crawley sister. Tom Branson would have died, too, but Sybil sacrificed herself instead and he was spared, though he was not ever permitted to permanently leave. This is why Anthony Strallan actually ditched Edith at the altar (he could sense the house's evil and that it was planning to consume him) and why Evelyn Napier, Richard Carlisle, Tony Gillingham, Charles Blake, and Henry Talbot all became obsessed with Mary so quickly.
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*Perhaps Tom's cousin is the father, so that would make Branson Hagen's cousin.
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* [[spoiler: There is a scene of him kissing someone in the movie trailer, however.]]
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* {{Jossed}} - Series 6, the final series, will conclude on New Year's Eve 1925.
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* {{Jossed}} - Series 6, the final series, will conclude concludes on New Year's Eve 1925.
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* {{Jossed}} - Series 6, the final series, will conclude on New Year's Eve 1927.1925.
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[[WMG: Tom Branson is the father of Tom Hagen, of TheGodfather]]
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[[WMG: Tom Branson is the father of Tom Hagen, of TheGodfather]]Film/TheGodfather]]
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* Partially jossed, the show ends on New Year's Eve 1927, but the abolishment of the entail isn't brought up.
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* Jossed, Robert [[spoiler: suffers from a burst stomach ulcer in season 6, but survives.]] The big events at the end of the show are simply [[spoiler: Edith and Bertie's wedding, and Anna giving birth.]]
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Rose likes Jazz music and is a modern flapper, so its easy to see her hooking up with the (Black) Gary. One of the pictures for season 4 shows them [[OldFashionedRowboatDate rowing a boat together.]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed, although Mary does break it off, with Ross asserting that it wouldn't have gone on much longer anyway. ]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed, although Mary does break it off, with Ross asserting that it wouldn't have gone on much longer anyway. ]]
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Rose likes Jazz music and is a modern flapper, so its it's easy to see her hooking up with the (Black) Gary. One of the pictures for season 4 shows them [[OldFashionedRowboatDate rowing a boat together.]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed, although Mary does break it off, with Ross asserting that it wouldn't have gone on much longer anyway. ]]]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed, although Mary does break it off, with Ross asserting that it wouldn't have gone on much longer anyway.
* [[spoiler: Carson does finally retire in the series finale, due to his health.]]
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** Seeing as Carson is loyal to the hilt, and utterly disgusted by any sort of sexual antics, this seems impossibly unlikely. As a further point, brown eyes are certainly possible with two blue-eyed parents, just as two brown-eyed parents will sometimes produce a blue-eyed child (due to a recessive gene). [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children Genetics are not cut and dried by any means]].
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* Jossed, we don't meet either of her parents.
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[[WMG: The series will end at the start of WorldWarTwo]]
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With the house taken over by the government for the duration (and perhaps decades longer), and a DistantFinale showing it presently under National Trust administration with the Crawley descendants scattered throughout the world. Master George could make a present-day appearance at the Abbey -- in his mid-nineties.
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With the house taken over by the government for the duration (and perhaps decades longer), and a DistantFinale showing it presently under National Trust administration with the Crawley descendants scattered throughout the world. Master George could make a present-day appearance at the Abbey -- - in his mid-nineties.
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* {{Jossed}} -- Mary marries Henry Talbot, while Tom is seen flirting with what seems to be Edith's editor from the magazine company.
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* {{Jossed}} -- - Mary marries Henry Talbot, while Tom is seen flirting with what seems to be Edith's editor from the magazine company.
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed as of the Series 5 Christmas special, where they become engaged -- although neither of them plan to retire.]]
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** Nah, that's his name -- it's a real, though granted unusual, first name of Irish and Gaelic origin, meaning "follower of Saint Maedoc"
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** Nah, that's his name -- - it's a real, though granted unusual, first name of Irish and Gaelic origin, meaning "follower of Saint Maedoc"
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HIGHLY unlikely -- Downton is in the middle of nowhere, and the bombings were centred around major cities and areas of industry (London, Liverpool etc). Bombing a country house seems a pointless waste of ammo.
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Or, alternately, Thomas could have been [[NewOldFlame previously acquainted]] with Bertie's cousin, somehow or other, and they've kept in touch as pen pals or something like that, and Bertie's cousin actually faked his death so they could run away together, but somehow [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't manage to convey his plan to Thomas in time]], which is why after all the shit he's been through, Thomas [[DrivenToSuicide hit rock bottom]] in the same episode in which we learn Bertie's cousin is dead -- he found out his longtime friend/maybe something more was dead, and felt he'd lost the last little bit of anything he had left to live for. Cue [[ReunionKiss touching reunion]] in the Christmas special.
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Or, alternately, Thomas could have been [[NewOldFlame previously acquainted]] with Bertie's cousin, somehow or other, and they've kept in touch as pen pals or something like that, and Bertie's cousin actually faked his death so they could run away together, but somehow [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't manage to convey his plan to Thomas in time]], which is why after all the shit he's been through, Thomas [[DrivenToSuicide hit rock bottom]] in the same episode in which we learn Bertie's cousin is dead -- - he found out his longtime friend/maybe something more was dead, and felt he'd lost the last little bit of anything he had left to live for. Cue [[ReunionKiss touching reunion]] in the Christmas special.special.
* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]]
* Nice theory, but we now know that Thomas [[spoiler: briefly took a job as the butler in another house, but returned to Downton to become the butler there after Carson got health problems. So even though he has no lover in sight, he at least got a promotion within his job and is relatively happy. And it was never implied that he even knew Bertie's cousin.]]
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* Probably not with talk of a movie. The only person seemingly slated to die is the Dowager Countess.