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*** Would that mean that Susan is a witch ?
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** Or the cane is actually his TARDIS.
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Magical mayhem destroying the city? The Patrician gone missing (turned into a lizard.) It was not a good day to be a watchman.

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Magical mayhem destroying the city? The Patrician gone missing (turned into a lizard.) It lizard?) And little to no control over it all. This was not a good day to be a watchman.
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[[WMG: The events of Discworld/{{Sourcery}} led Vimes to distrust wizards.]]
Magical mayhem destroying the city? The Patrician gone missing (turned into a lizard.) It was not a good day to be a watchman.
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[[WMG: Ponder Stibbons will eventually become Archchancellor.]]
* Ponder has a ''lot'' of control of the important offices in the [=UU=]. (He even became the acting Bursar when the latter decided to disregard decimal places as a mere nuisance.) He is probably the most competent of the faculty.
** He also understands the ''purpose'' of the Unseen University quite well to keep it running in that same direction (keeping the wizards well-fed and happy, so that they won't start another mage war.)
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* Wait if Hex is going to be near all powerful that means he's probably going to get tired of the wizards incompetence and become some sort of Skynet like being!
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** I ''absolutely love'' this theory. It makes a lot of sense after reading ''NightWatch'' too, considering how Vetinari assassinated Lord Winder [[spoiler: after deciding to fight for the Revolutionary cause, if I remember correctly.]] If ''that'' was personal to him and young Havelock Vetinari didn't even ''know'' the members of the old night watch, imagine how far he would go for someone who touched his ''family.''

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** * I ''absolutely love'' this theory. theory. It makes a lot of sense after reading ''NightWatch'' too, considering how Vetinari assassinated Lord Winder [[spoiler: after deciding to fight for the Revolutionary cause, if I remember correctly.]] ]] If ''that'' was personal to him and young Havelock Vetinari didn't even ''know'' the members of the old night watch, watch were ''strangers'' to young Havelock, just imagine how far he would go for someone who touched his ''family.''
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** I ''absolutely love'' this theory. It makes a lot of sense after reading ''NightWatch'' too, considering how Vetinari assassinated Lord Winder [[spoiler: after deciding to fight for the Revolutionary cause, if I remember correctly.]] If ''that'' was personal to him and young Havelock Vetinari didn't even ''know'' the members of the old night watch, imagine how far he would go for someone who touched his ''family.''
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So, either Havelock had an older brother who became Lord Vetinari upon their father's death, or his ''father'' had a male sibling who outlived him, only to die childless and pass the title on to his nephew. Either way, it's possible that this prior Lord Vetinari died ''because'' of Snapcase -- perhaps purged or assassinated, or perhaps killed during a war Snapcase's policies helped provoke -- and Havelock ousted his predecessor in retaliation for that.

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So, either Havelock had an older brother who became Lord Vetinari upon their father's death, or his ''father'' had a an elder male sibling who outlived him, only to die childless and pass the title on to his nephew. Either way, it's possible that this prior Lord Vetinari died ''because'' of Snapcase -- perhaps purged or assassinated, or perhaps killed during a war Snapcase's policies helped provoke -- and Havelock ousted his predecessor in retaliation for that.
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[[WMG: Havelock Vetinari has an older brother or uncle who passed away during the years of the Snapcase administration.]]
He appears to be the sole heir to the Vetinari bloodline, yet in the portion of ''Night Watch'' that's set in the past, the narrative refers to him solely as ''Havelock'' Vetinari, not ''Lord'' Vetinari. His family is supposedly a long-established part of Ankh-Morpork's nobility, and his aunt speaks of his father in the past tense; by rights, if he were the immediate heir, he ought to have inherited the title of "Lord" upon his father's death. (We know that title has to be hereditary, not something he acquired along with the Patricianship, because he's called "Lord Vetinari" in a footnote about him advising the previous Patrician to "tax the rat farms".)

So, either Havelock had an older brother who became Lord Vetinari upon their father's death, or his ''father'' had a male sibling who outlived him, only to die childless and pass the title on to his nephew. Either way, it's possible that this prior Lord Vetinari died ''because'' of Snapcase -- perhaps purged or assassinated, or perhaps killed during a war Snapcase's policies helped provoke -- and Havelock ousted his predecessor in retaliation for that.
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She'll hyphenate the "Note Spelling" when she grows up, making it sound posh without violating Lancre's naming tradition. Following the matrilineal customs of her mother and godmothers, she'll pass the name on to her children, making it the hereditary surname of Lancre's royal bloodline. Within a few generations, everyone will have forgotten the original error behind the name, and ''Twurp's Peerage'' will claim that "Note" came from Queen Esmerelda I's father (remembered, not as a former jester, but as a ''minstrel'' trained by a different department within the Fools' Guild) and "Spelling", from her witch mother.

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She'll hyphenate the "Note Spelling" when she grows up, making it sound posh without violating Lancre's naming tradition. Following the matrilineal customs of her mother and godmothers, she'll pass the name on to her children, making it the hereditary surname of Lancre's royal bloodline. Within a few generations, everyone will have forgotten the original error behind the name, and ''Twurp's Peerage'' will claim that "Note" came from Queen Esmerelda I's Esmerelda's father (remembered, not as a former jester, but as a ''minstrel'' trained by a different department within the Fools' Guild) and "Spelling", from her witch mother.

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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin. As Benji is one of the few small or mixed-breed dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso in that several of Benji's film roles are about him getting lost and surviving on his own, Gaspode-style.

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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin. As Benji is one of the few small or mixed-breed dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's sidekick. He's therefore the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso moreso, in that several of Benji's film roles are about involve him getting lost and surviving as a stray, Gaspode-style.

[[WMG: Princess Esmerelda Margaret Note Spelling will subvert the UnfortunateName trope.]]
She'll hyphenate the "Note Spelling" when she grows up, making it sound posh without violating Lancre's naming tradition. Following the matrilineal customs of her mother and godmothers, she'll pass the name
on his own, Gaspode-style.
to her children, making it the hereditary surname of Lancre's royal bloodline. Within a few generations, everyone will have forgotten the original error behind the name, and ''Twurp's Peerage'' will claim that "Note" came from Queen Esmerelda I's father (remembered, not as a former jester, but as a ''minstrel'' trained by a different department within the Fools' Guild) and "Spelling", from her witch mother.
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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso in that several of Benji's film roles are about him getting lost and surviving on his own, Gaspode-style.

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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Tin. As Benji is one of the few small terrier-type or mixed-breed dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso in that several of Benji's film roles are about him getting lost and surviving on his own, Gaspode-style.
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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso, in that half of Benji's movie roles are about him getting lost and surviving on the streets.

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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble ... the moreso, moreso in that half several of Benji's movie film roles are about him getting lost and surviving on the streets.
his own, Gaspode-style.
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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble.

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Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble.
resemble ... the moreso, in that half of Benji's movie roles are about him getting lost and surviving on the streets.
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[[WMG: Gaspode is descended from Discworld's long-ago equivalent of Benji.]]
Gaspode must be the descendant of a dog that performed in the ancient Holy Wood city's clicks, as heredity is why he was among those attracted to the site in ''Moving Pictures''. The fact he's the ''only'' dog who was specifically drawn to the region, as opposed to being brought there by Dibbler's agents, suggests his bloodline must trace back to an animal who'd been something of a star in his own right, not just a four-legged extra. As Gaspode's a small terrier mix, it's unlikely that he'd be descended from an Expy of Lassie or Rin Tin Tin; as Benji is one of the few small terrier-type dogs to have attained "wonder dog" status in Hollywood, starring in his own films rather than being a human's sidekick, he's the logical RealLife canine for Gaspode's movie-star ancestor to resemble.
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** The existence of Hell in ''Eric'' would appear to support this. Note that one of the characters encountered there, Lavaeolus, retained his own identity and memories many centuries after his death.

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** The existence of Hell in ''Eric'' would appear to support this. Note that one of the characters encountered there, Lavaeolus, retained his own identity and memories many centuries after his death. Depressingly enough; belief in individual afterlives may come and go with generations; but belief in Hell is much longer.
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*** Different [[AlternateUniverse Trouser Leg of Time.]]
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* That, of course, presumes that Susan would ''want'' to marry a man old enough to be her father, and (since this would be the bitter, drunkard bachelor Vimes you're talking about) ''more'' than gloomy enough to be her grandfather.
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[[WMG: The Auditors did something to suppress the Things from the Dungeon Dimensions after the events of ''Moving Pictures''.]]
The Auditors' distaste for life, disorder, or anything that can't be quantified places them in direct opposition to the Dungeon Things, which are innately alien to the normal order of reality and ''crave'' life. Auditors also don't much care for works or workings of the imagination, which the driving spirit of Holy Wood existed to glamorize and milk. Dealing with either of these forces on its own was bad enough, from the Auditors' perspective, but when they actually started to combine and multiply one another's impact upon the universe, that was going too far: in the wake of ''Moving Pictures'', the gray hoods reinforced the barriers that keep the Dungeon Things from pushing their way through and making a mess of reality. Hence, the Things' absence from later Discworld novels.
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** Dwarfs do build and repair magical broomsticks, however. The dwarf who agrees to fix Granny's borrowed stick in ''Equal Rites'' mentioned spells as part of that procedure, and there's no indication that there was a human spellcaster on hand to apply them.
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[[WMG: Gnolls and goblins are different cultures of the same species.]]
Both races are on the small-and-wiry side, tend to live hand-to-mouth the fringes of more-sophisticated societies, and are obsessed with collecting things that most other species find unspeakably disgusting.

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[[WMG: Gnolls and goblins are different cultures of the same humanoid species.]]
Both races are on the small-and-wiry side, have poor reputations, tend to live survive hand-to-mouth on the fringes of more-sophisticated societies, and are obsessed with collecting things that most other species find unspeakably disgusting.
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** Except Death appears at the end of the universe in ''Eric''. He's still described as "he", and still exhibits the same personality.

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